GOP activist: Women must get paid less in order to find a man

Top Republican activist Phyllis Schlafly, who has been at the forefront of GOP “women’s issues” for decades, writes today in the Christian Post that women need to make lower salaries than men, lest they not find husbands.

Schlafly, you might recall, had a large hand in defeating the Equal Rights Amendment in the 1970s.

Schlafly’s comments come in response to President Obama’s, and Democrats’, push for the passage of “equal pay” laws to address earning-inequality between men and women working similar jobs in the same professions.

Schlafly starts by claiming that women typically like to settle down with a man who earns more than them.  “Another fact is the influence of hypergamy, which means that women typically choose a mate (husband or boyfriend) who earns more than she does,” Schlafly writes. “Men don’t have the same preference for a higher-earning mate.”

Phyllis Schlafly (photo by Gage Skidmore)

Phyllis Schlafly (photo by Gage Skidmore)

Yeah, I’m sure some men don’t have the same preference.  In fact, some men prefer their women to be barefoot and pregnant, and that’s a large part of the problem.

Schlafly continues: “While women prefer to HAVE a higher-earning partner, men generally prefer to BE the higher-earning partner in a relationship. This simple but profound difference between the sexes has powerful consequences for the so-called pay gap.”

Schlafly worries that if we started paying women the same money for the same job that men do, women would suddenly be “unable to find a suitable mate.”

“Suppose the pay gap between men and women were magically eliminated. If that happened, simple arithmetic suggests that half of women would be unable to find what they regard as a suitable mate.”

Schlafly concludes with the incredible claim that if women can’t find men who are paid more than them, women may just stop marrying altogether.

“Obviously, I’m not saying women won’t date or marry a lower-earning men, only that they probably prefer not to. If a higher-earning man is not available, many women are more likely not to marry at all.”

Schlafly, of course, is more than just an expert on finding a man.  She’s also a Latino expert. Here’s Schlafly explaining how Latinos simply couldn’t understand the concept of the Bill of Rights:

RADIO HOST: There’s a lot of Hispanics here in Kern County, and in California. You know, socially they should be Republicans because they have the same family value ethic we do. They feel the same way about the abortion issue. Yet the minority community is Democrat (sic). Have we dropped the ball as Republicans with the minority community?

PHYLLIS SCHLAFLY: No. I think the Republicans have misread them all. I don’t think they have Republican inclinations at all. They’re running an illegitimacy rate that’s just about the same as the blacks are. And the point fact is they come from a country where they have no experience with limited government, and the types of rights we have in the Bill of Rights. They don’t understand that at all. You can’t even talk to them about what the Republican principle is.

Schlafly’s Eagle Forum is also a great defender of puppy-mills.

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67 Responses to “GOP activist: Women must get paid less in order to find a man”

  1. u_go_guys says:

    Huckabee said the Democrats want the U.S. government to be a woman’s “Uncle Sugar”.
    What Phyllis Schlafly, along with the rest of the reich-wing, thinks is that women want and need a “Sugar Daddy” (Never marry for love?). In other words, EVERY woman wants and needs to be dominated, subjugated, controlled, financially supported; in other words, to be prostitutes (a hoe)? “Boats and Hoes” and other misogynistic outpourings from Reich-wing individuals are never “owned” by the group, at least publicly. Outraged and insulted yet?

  2. Laguna Beach Lady says:

    Phyllis Schlafly’s comment sets women back decades. What kind of a woman would be attracted to a man who is resentful of her earning the same as him? Not my kind of man! Phyllis it’s 2014 & you need to get with the times. It’s about bringing women together for a common cause “equal pay for equal work”. Get on board Phyllis Schlafly for God’s sakes!

  3. KingCranky says:

    One can’t get past Schlafly’s blatant hypocrisy, making a comfortable living traveling around the country telling other women to stay home.

  4. samizdat says:

    ps: Dear Phyllis Schlafly,

    Please die already.

  5. samizdat says:

    Phyllis is an old hand at the crazy…

  6. samizdat says:

    Ah, good ol’ crazy Phyllis! Still plugging away against logic, reason, science and common sense.

    As strange as it may be to say it, it’s oddly comforting knowing that crazy Republican fascists and their authoritarian follower underclass will always be crazy. The ones you gotta watch for are the turncoats like Reid, Pelosi, DiFi, and of course, my personal hero of prevarication Drone-bama himself.

  7. Mark_in_MN says:

    I don’t agree that all of these are easily measured or quantified. Competence is a great example of it. The amount of assistance may be a reasonable measure in some instances, but there is some work that is inherently collaborative or best undertaken collaboratively. In some cases, it might actually be a mark of competence that someone seeks assistance from others on certain aspects of work where someone else has particular expertise or skill. Quality of work is something that in many circumstances is particularly defies measurement or objective quantification, because the judgement of that quality is subjective or filled with many judgement calls that will very from evaluator to evaluator. If we are talking about a machinist making a certain part, it could be measured by checking its within tolerances or the number rejected as unusable. But a great many people produce work that is not so easily or succinctly quantified, at least not without lots of value judgements (“Is this a 4 or a 5? Hmmm. I’m not sure. On the one hand…. On the other hand….”) Your criteria for hard work is another example of evaluation on the basis of perception, which is again filled with the vagaries of judgement calls and human memory.

    Perhaps your particular work as an engineer provides a better opportunity to quantify things than other settings. Or maybe you’re just minimizing the degree to which quantitative factors can hide value calls, as well as minimizing qualitative aspects of people’s work. Certainly within engineering, there is not simply one solution to any particular problem. There often are different approaches, and can be disagreement amongst engineers about what approach is better, what factors are more important than others, or the elegance of a certain solution. All of these can effect an evaluation of quality or how hard someone is working.

    And what about the factors of personality? Do you really think that someone who a supervisor finds annoying doesn’t end up with negatives amplified and possibly positives deemphasized, while someone who a supervisor likes may get negatives overlooked and positives amplified? Good supervisors might well seek to minimize such an effect, but it’s not ultimately something that can be eliminated. And sometimes its over-compensated for, whereby an employee that’s like by their supervisor has positives discounted and negatives less frequently overlooked.

    Systems that try to avoid the personality factor by making such evaluations all about quantifiable factors, and work hard to avoid ways those numbers can hide bias or subjective judgement calls, often leave important qualitative aspects of almost everyone’s work out. I think this potentially treats employees who are particularly good on such qualitative factors, but in ways that don’t always show up in quantitative factors or even make those factors look worse, less fairly.

  8. perljammer says:

    Each of the example attributes I listed as indicators of productivity are easily measured and quantified. Competence – how much assistance, if any, does the person need to complete their assignments? Attendance and punctuality – well, it should be obvious how that is measured. Quality of work – does it meet or exceed established standards, or not? Hard working – does the person regularly deliver their work product in a timely manner, and advise their supervisor when problems arise that might impact that timely delivery?

    I’ve been a professional engineer for longer than I care to admit (but not as long as I hope to be), and I can tell you with surety that it’s not impossible or even difficult to make quantitative, verifiable assessments that separate the good ones from the not so good ones. It’s really not the mystery you seem to think it is.

  9. Tom Carpenter says:

    My girlfriend works for a local bank that has been in business for 85 years, and won’t sell out to the big corporate mega-banks. She works hard, makes great money, and gets an excellent benefit package, 2 weeks paid vacation time, and 5 paid personal days per year.
    I own my own small screen printing & button business ( ), work part time (30 hrs/week) with special needs pre-schoolers, perform in a band, and forage wild foods for a few local restaurants.
    My business does well. I make decent profits, but nowhere near what my girlfriend makes. I got my insurance through the ACA, and for the first time in nearly 15 years, I can actually afford REAL health insurance.
    The fact that she makes more than me does not affect our relationship in any way. We have been together for 9 years, and couldn’t be happier. We own our house. We just bought a truck last year. We both contribute to our bills, etc equally, we save for our future, and have enough disposable income to do the things we like. We will never be 1%-ers, and don’t really care to be. We live comfortably, and are fine with what we make.
    Phyllis Schlafly’s idea that a woman would rather not be married than be with a man who makes less than her is asinine at best. It is LOVE & mutual respect that makes a relationship, not how much money you make. (Seems old Phyllis might be a bit of a gold digger.) It is that type of thinking, along with all the other hateful, anti-everyone else attitude of the GOP that is holding this country back from truly moving forward.
    Thank goodness that the majority of the people that still hold these antiquated, throwback, cave-dweller ideas have one foot in the grave, and in a few years, we won’t have to listen to their stupid rhetoric any longer.

  10. Mark_in_MN says:

    Uh, no, I did not take one sentence and interpret it out of context to mean soothing it doesn’t mean. I got your meaning quite correctly.

    I would say that if two people have the same job title it ought to mean that they are entitled to equal compensation. I think it is appropriate to very that compensation based on education level and years in the profession.

    I left out productivity because I don’t think it should be a measure for compensation. It opens the door to all sorts of subjective and unfair appraisals, for favoritism, for bias, etc. Actual quantitative measures are often difficult, if not impossible, to apply and usually do not fully capture one’s job and one’s work. I think people should be paid for the job they are given, not personal traits or habits. With a number of items in your list, if there are really deficiencies in someone’s work (which I would contrast with simple variations between employees) that’s a different matter than a question of compensation levels. That is, it’s a matter of training or mentoring, and may become a question of continued employment if the deficiencies are severe enough or don’t see improvements.

  11. Sarah says:

    what the WHAT?!!! WHY is this insane woman even being given media recognition!? she’s psycho! someone forgot to tell her that we now live in a world where each person is respected for being a person, not half a person. why would anyone even put her on a radio show?! who IS she??? a looney tune! she’s obviously also anti-gay, cause she keeps referring to couples as men and women….. if a lesbian isn’t making the same money as her male counterpart in the same job, what then? this woman is literally insane. stop showcasing her! I respect people no matter their political party, but if the Republic party actually supports this woman and her craziness, then I have lost all ounce of respect for Republicans.

  12. perljammer says:

    Uh huh. So you took one sentence from a three-paragraph post and tried to interpret it out of context to mean something it doesn’t mean. To be clear, what it means is, “Just because two people have the same job title doesn’t mean they’re entitled to equal compensation.”

    And yes, I noticed what you left out; productivity. Why would that be? Do you really think someone who is less competent, or who has attendance or punctuality problems, or who is lackadaisical about the quality of his/her work, is deserving of compensation equal to someone who has honed his/her skills, shows up consistently, and works hard to do his/her job well?

  13. Mark_in_MN says:

    And immediately thereafter you wrote: “To merely say that two engineers, or two welders, or two ditch diggers should be paid the same is hogwash.”

    You might note what it was that I didn’t include as variables in compensation when I commented.

  14. lynchie says:

    Well according to Phyliss women don’t want or deserve equality. Besides women are better at pumping out babies, doing the washing, cooking, fondling the husband and in her world not detracting from their man.

  15. lynchie says:

    She is. Rence Preibus has his had up here ass moving her mouth

  16. Silver_Witch says:

    She will continue spouting long after she is gone because she is immortal in her books, writings and public speeches, thankfully though thousands of women will know her well and her name will stand for the evil that she is.

  17. Silver_Witch says:

    Agreed Lynchie…

  18. lynchie says:

    She will keep spouting hatred until they screw the lid down on the box

  19. lynchie says:

    Married to her I think maybe he offed himself. What a soulless, self absorbed piece of skin. She is an expert on what makes women tick and how they think, just ask her.

  20. Kelly says:

    Damn! She is Sally from “Scandal”!

  21. perljammer says:

    Maybe you should go back and re-read what I wrote: ” Two people in the same profession with similar levels of experience performing similar tasks or shouldering similar responsibilities with similar productivity should earn the same compensation.”

  22. olandp says:

    She will never retire, but I will rejoice at her death. Always remember, Fred Phelps is still dead.

  23. olandp says:

    (Sy)Phyllis Schlafay has made a career for herself traveling the country telling women they shouldn’t have careers. She also disapproves of the gay, yet her out gay son works for her. Another son is re-writing the bible taking out all of that liberal socialist crap that those first through third century communists put in there. Dishonest and evil to the core, yet she id a “leader” in the Family Values Republican party.

  24. So, if I should follow that loony advice, then the reason I’m happily single is because I’ve had the disease of Reaganomics for thirty years. Therefore, I’m single because I’ve been poor, not because I’m a misogamist!

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  26. Mike_in_the_Tundra says:

    I suppose when the Crypt Keeper’s wife was young, those things may have been true. Things have changed, homes were wired for electricity and women got the vote.

  27. Mark_in_MN says:

    What you call hogwash I think is good, fair, and ethical compensation. Two people who do the same (or similar) work, who have the same level of education, who have worked the same number of years in that profession, should be paid the same.

  28. Mark_in_MN says:

    The simple fact is, in the mind of Phyllis and many like her, no other country could possibly have what the United States has. We are unique. We are exceptional. Everywhere else must be worse or less developed or less civilized or less advanced than we. It’s axiomatic. (It’s also false.)

  29. Silver_Witch says:

    Thanks Houndentenor….I forget sometimes, especially when I see one of my own – a woman working against us…and winning by taking us back to the time when my Mother was forced to have me and my sisters…when she hated children and really just wanted to have sex, live life, teach and be free…instead she drank, suffered and allowed our father to beat and rape us…and that is what Schfly wants to return to.

  30. Houndentenor says:

    It has to be frustrating. The law requiring equal pay for women was passed in the 1960s. I don’t understand why pay equality still hasn’t been achieved. What’s worse, the progress made over those decades is eroding in states where the Tea Party nutters took over. There would be no gay rights if women hadn’t paved the way for gender equality. We are in this together. In fighting only benefits the racist, sexist and anti-gay bigots.

  31. Silver_Witch says:

    I am sure there is a long way to go for LGBT people…I have lots of empathy really. I think it is painful because woman have been working on being treated equally for a very long time…and lately it seems we are going backwards.

    Sorry for the rant.

  32. Houndentenor says:

    And bizarrely employs her openly gay son in spite of railing against gay rights. She also had a career while telling women they shouldn’t work outside the home. She’s the poster crone for right-wing hypocrisy.

  33. Houndentenor says:

    Gays don’t have that many rights. it’s still legal to discriminate in hiring against gays in 31 states. I’m not sure what rights you think we have but we really don’t have that many unless we live in specific places.

    I’m not sure how procedures for surgeries on different body parts can be comparable. My mom had breast cancer in the mid 70s (right after Betty Ford). Before Betty Ford, btw, people hardly said the word cancer out loud. What they did to my mom was practically barbaric by the standards of modern treatment. (She had reconstructive surgery several years later. There’s been a lot of progress. Breast cancer is now often survivable if detected early. (My mom actually discovered her while learning how to do a breast exam.) Women did a lot of work on women’s health issues. Maybe more needs to be done. (Men have similar issues that we don’t like addressing with similarly bad consequences.)

    Anyway, yes, women need to be paid the same as men for the same job. More significantly we need to address the fact that jobs that are mostly populated by women don’t pay as well as jobs mostly populated by men. Equal pay doesn’t really address that and I think that’s the major cause for the current pay disparity. (Having sometimes held jobs where I was the only man around with my job title, I’m aware how crappy those jobs pay.)

    You do have a good point about drug testing. That definitely needs to be addressed. (It has been a real problem with HIV treatments.)

  34. mononucleosis says:

    I see from your photo Phyllis, you’ve already found yours.
    Nice selfie.

  35. She Codes says:

    I’ve never been a violent person, but I would pay cash money to slap her across her face with all my might.

  36. cole3244 says:

    the missing link distaff version.

  37. silas1898 says:

    She needs more TV time.

  38. beam says:

    Outlaw marriage. Period.

  39. Silver_Witch says:

    Not divorced, her husband passed in 1993 and the were married until his death.

  40. Silver_Witch says:

    Will do!!

  41. phred says:

    Oh, just burst into tears.

  42. douglas01 says:

    Is it any wonder Schlafly is divorced? This woman is bat shit crazy.

  43. Silver_Witch says:

    Her soul is definitely dead.

  44. dcinsider says:

    I still think she’s dead.

  45. Silver_Witch says:

    I have a nice “C” word I would trade you which is much more fitting to her.

  46. Silver_Witch says:

    Woman the forgotten hated. I don’t understand how gays got rights and we just got left in the gutter. I still pay more to have my shirts laundered then my husband, I still am treated as a second class person at work (although I have learned to ignore it and do my best). We still get overlooked for medical cures (did you know they have a surgery for prostrate cancer that take about 5 minutes and guys are back to work, yet women with breast cancer still get major surgery (on an outpatient basis of course) and are sent home to suffer in silence. They don’t do much drug testing on women, so a drug that works great for men can have devastating effects on women (think Statins with dementia effects).

    I am not very freaking hopeful when we have the likes of this woman speaking for us.

  47. Silver_Witch says:

    Oh Phred – you make me blow coffee through my nose and onto my keyboard…now I must go find some smelling salts and lay down….my boss is going to be really made at you.

  48. Silver_Witch says:

    Ahhh the “other”…Schlafly has made a living by pointing to the “other” no matter who they might be and making it the “others” fault, they just don’t understand. Women as the “other”, now Latinos.

    I for one, married the person I love – never asked them what they made – did ask them what they did as I didn’t think I could live with a mortician or someone that was like a hit-man. Just a preference.

    It is funny that a woman could be so full of self-hatred and loathing for herself and then do such a bang-up job projecting it out into the world. And I might add, a woman that makes more than most women, yet she is married.

    The hatred is strong in this one…and as with all who are full of hate – we will rejoice at her retirement from politics.

  49. FLL says:

    “And the point fact is they [Mexicans] come from a country where they have no experience with limited government, and the types of rights we have in the Bill of Rights.”

    WTF?! How can anyone be that ignorant about a country that borders on their own country? Chapter 1 of the first section of the Mexican constitution (“Of Human Rights and their Warranties”) is devoted to exactly the type of rights we have in the Bill of Rights. Chapter 1 of the third section of the Mexican constitution (“On the Separation of Powers”) is dedicated to limited government. On top of that, Mexico has always had a federalist system, similar to our own, in which many powers not assigned to the national government are reserved for the states. This is in contrast to very centralized governments, like those in France and Colombia. Where in holy hell does Phyllis get her information from? Is she just trying to insult Mexican people with lies? Is it cultural? Is it racial? What gives with this woman?

  50. perljammer says:

    From the linked article at “Obama says in his weekly radio and Internet address that it’s an embarrassment that women earn less than men even in the same professions and with the same education.”

    Is it also an embarrassment that two men (or, yes, two women) in the same professions and with the same education are not equally compensated? Or is there more to it than job category and education? Maybe experience, competence, and productivity should be considerations as well?

    IMNSHO, it comes down to productivity. Two people in the same profession with similar levels of experience performing similar tasks or shouldering similar responsibilities with similar productivity should earn the same compensation. To merely say that two engineers, or two welders, or two ditch diggers should be paid the same is hogwash. I understand that there are situations where looking at productivity is frowned upon, but in those situations I say, “If you don’t or can’t care how well people do their jobs, just pay everybody the same and be done with it.”

    Oh, and Phyllis Schlafly — really? Just what sort of opinion would you expect her to express? If you want to have a rational discussion, pick someone rational for the discussion.

  51. tigalily says:

    This’ll alienate married couples who have men earning lower than their female partner.
    This’ll alienate men who choose to stay at home and care for children.
    This’ll alienate women (not surprise there) who are not married/are not looking to be supported by another person.
    This’ll alienate men who make less and the GOP will make them feel inferior and they won’t be ‘marriage’ material because they aren’t making the buck.

    Good Job GOP.

  52. oikos says:

    This ignorant old crone is still living in the 1950’s. It is only when all of these fossils die off that we will see real change.
    “That was a well-plotted piece of non-claptrap that never made me want to retch.” -Sideshow Bob

  53. vickif says:

    I wish she was. I live in Illinois and it’s because of her the ERA didn’t become law here. I’ve hated her since then. It’s never even been brought up again to vote on tho the ERA was something that shouldn’t have been voted on in the first place. It should just have become a law.

  54. Monophylos Fortikos says:

    That’s what I think every time I see Schlafly pop up again :( I associate her with cheap paperbacks with red lettering on the cover.

  55. was*thisjustin says:

    What a m0r0n! My wife has made more than me for years. Has not negatively affected our marriage or relationship at all, and has given my daughters a really positive role model.

  56. phred says:

    Well, women certainly deserve to be paid less, what with all their fainting spells and having to sit at their desks sidesaddle and taking weeks off for all those mysterious lady things. STOP! You’re getting hysterical! If you don’t calm down I shall have to slap you!

    h/t: Jeremy Hardy

  57. JaneE says:

    I am not too sure how much to credit someone who has made a lucrative career out of telling other women their place is in the home, not the workplace. About as much as she follows her own advice, perhaps.

  58. dcinsider says:

    I thought she was dead.

  59. annatopia says:

    i hate this woman with a burning fiery hot passion. before i started college i used to call her a bitch, but i learned a nice academic term for her, anti-feminist. still, it’s hard not to let the B word roll off my tongue when i see her… it’s like a reflex… she just causes me to spew hatred in her direction.

  60. AnitaMann says:

    At least she believes it is okay for women to work outside the home. And that marriages don’t need to be arranged between families. That’s uh… progress?

  61. BeccaM says:

    I loathe Schlafly with the fire of a thousand exploding suns. She pulled the same BS in the 1970s and 80s when she lobbied to defeat the ERA. “Women are special snowflakes! Women might be drafted to serve in the military! The ERA means men will invade women’s restrooms!”

    Meanwhile, for all her misogynistic drivel, Schlafly herself was a woman with her own career — an attorney and public speaker — putting the hypocritical lie to what she was insisting be every other woman’s best destiny.

    BTW, did you know she was once a member of the John Birch Society, but left not because she disagreed with their basic positions, because they weren’t focused enough on communists outside of America rather than inside?

    Truly, she’s vile in so many ways, but the worst of it is her monstrous vileness towards women and feminism.

  62. woodroad34 says:

    Perhaps the radio host should take some English lessons. Speaking of which, perhaps Mizzzzzz Schlafly should read the Victorian novel, “North and South”, wherein the female protagonist talks to a Schlafly-like woman about letting in new ideas, lest one become stiff. Schlafly is virtually an intellectually slovenly monster, without redeeming quality or society. She’s hateful (view her relationship with her gay son), unchristian, and emotionally corrupt. And I agree with @heimaey:disqus that if her advice is all that good she should practice what she preaches. Oh, that’s right, it’s not good and neither is she.

  63. dommyluc says:

    Oh, Phyllis, you’ve been a fucking moron since the Eisenhower administration. Will you please just go off somewhere and finally drop dead, preferably by having your flesh ripped off of your bones by feral cats. And please take that clueless, self-hating gay son of yours with you.

  64. heimaey says:

    She should take her own advice and go back into the kitchen and shut up. We don’t need women like that with any kind of public voice.

  65. mtblaze says:

    Any man who thinks that his mate must make less then him is not really a man. You can’t enforce “manhood”.

  66. Elijah Shalis says:

    Wow I guess she let the cat out of the bag that conservatives don’t marry for love.

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