Cliven Bundy, proud racist, shares his thoughts on “the negro” (video)

Yesterday,  I posted a long article about Cliven Bundy and his friendly band of heavily-armed Oath Keeper militia men (and their human-shield wives and daughters), who are happy to threaten bloodshed and violence against government employees doing their jobs.

UPDATE: There’s video.

Well, having found he really likes the spotlight, Bundy has taken to doing long, rambling daily interviews with his supporters and an increasingly dwindling number of reporters who actually care.

He said he would continue holding a daily news conference; on Saturday, it drew one reporter and one photographer, so Mr. Bundy used the time to officiate at what was in effect a town meeting with supporters, discussing, in a long, loping discourse, the prevalence of abortion, the abuses of welfare and his views on race.

Adam Nagourney of the New York Times broke the story, and it’s that last bit about race that’s the real doozy.

Fox News' version of Cliven Bundy.

Fox News’ version of Cliven Bundy.

“I want to tell you one more thing I know about the Negro,” he said. Mr. Bundy recalled driving past a public-housing project in North Las Vegas, “and in front of that government house the door was usually open and the older people and the kids — and there is always at least a half a dozen people sitting on the porch — they didn’t have nothing to do. They didn’t have nothing for their kids to do. They didn’t have nothing for their young girls to do.

“And because they were basically on government subsidy, so now what do they do?” he asked. “They abort their young children, they put their young men in jail, because they never learned how to pick cotton. And I’ve often wondered, are they better off as slaves, picking cotton and having a family life and doing things, or are they better off under government subsidy? They didn’t get no more freedom. They got less freedom.”

(Emphasis added.) That’s right: Cliven Bundy thinks the main problem for “Negroes” is they never learned to pick cotton.

He further believes the whole slavery thing wasn’t so bad. I mean, except when being worked all day in the fields, there’s lots of time for a family life for a slave, assuming of course your master didn’t sell your family members to some other plantation owner hundreds of miles away.

(That was intended as a great heaping serving of sarcastic snark, in case it wasn’t obvious.)

UPDATE: Cliven Bundy has clarified today that he was simply “wondering” if blacks were better off being slaves to the white man rathe than being slaves to the federal government today.  Bundy went on to note that he was simply using a phrase that he learned from Glenn Beck, using the word “wondering” in order to (allegedly) not necessarily claim that you agree.  Uh huh.

“I’m wondering are they happier now under this government subsidy system than they were when they were slaves and they was able to have a family structure together and chickens and a garden and the people have something to do. So in my mind I’m wondering are they better off being slaves in that sense or are they better off being slaves of the United States government in the sense of a subsidy?”

Senator Rand Paul, (KY-Tea Bagger GOP) and Senator Dean Heller (NV-same) had both expressed support for Bundy and his theft-of-resources lawbreaking, but apparently even this was too much for them. According to Nagourney’s article:

A spokesman for Mr. Paul, informed of Mr. Bundy’s remarks, said the senator was not available for immediate comment. Chandler Smith, a spokesman for Mr. Heller, said that the senator “completely disagrees with Mr. Bundy’s appalling and racist statements, and condemns them in the most strenuous way.”

Anyway, I expect there’ll soon be waaaay less coverage of Mr. Bundy in the coming weeks, even on Fox. The conservative right, especially Fox News and the Tea Party and the rest, generally prefer their racist dog-whistles to sound rather less like an air-horn at a church service.

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Published professional writer and poet, Becca had a three decade career in technical writing and consulting before selling off most of her possessions in 2006 to go live at an ashram in India for 3 years. She loves literature (especially science fiction), technology and science, progressive politics, cool electronic gadgets, and perfecting Hatch green chile recipes. Fortunately for this last, Becca and her wife currently live in New Mexico. @BeccaMorn

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122 Responses to “Cliven Bundy, proud racist, shares his thoughts on “the negro” (video)”

  1. jamie says:

    He does’nt “think” anything, he would just rather usbe in that position. You see everybody loves to talk about how slavery affected Black people generationally. Let’s flip that for a minut. How has slavery affected the people who were directly and indirectly invested in the old institution, generatonally. Because, mark my words, it has. Slavery and Jim Crow, took from us on a person to person basis and gave it to them. Then it was possible for them to beat, reprimand and murder us with impunity. Basically it still is. Then you couldn’t talk back or even defend yourself against them. Basically it still is. Only now they tend to silence us with our educationally imposed ignorance. They take it for granted that you don’t know what happened, so they imply nothing has happened and we have nothing to be bitter or alarmed about. They use to have what was called slave patrol, every white man was in change of “controlling” and monitoring you. Try to have a conversation about Black issues on the internet. Someone is always there to tell us we are reverse racist or on Amazon, to tell us don’t waste our time buying or reading this or that book. I have rarely if ever witnessed a Caucasian say they understand how we feel based on what everyone knows has gone on in this country. Unfortunately everyone but us way too often. In person, when they ask me what I’m reading and it deals with a racial issue, their whole demeanor changes. In places where I visit regularly, they don’t ask anymore. When I very politely showed a white woman the book on slavery that I was reading, and told her I was a serious history buff, she told me” watch what you read, it will only make you mad”. Really? I wonder why… It’s all been a cruel, cruel game that we, trying to get along, have never been playing. I’m just ready to play now. And I’m coming to the table with what I got

  2. jamie says:

    I want to see him sign up for slavery when they run his ass
    off that land. And it’s not government mismanagement, it is system
    management. My idea of what has always caused precarious conditions among
    Black will always be vastly different than yours. Look up Tulsa Oklahoma
    1922. Look up the fact that virtually all race riots before the sixties,
    were instigated by whites, over trumped up charges against one person in order
    to destroy the industry and thrift Blacks exhibited in exemplary fashion. Going
    so far as to corral the men and send their white wives into Black women’s homes
    to steal their belongings. When have
    you ever heard of Black people lynching burning and cutting of the body parts
    of their victims and selling them as souvenirs. Hell when have you ever seen a
    white man stand toe to toe with a Black man ( not in the ring) in a
    fight. Always a gang of you to come get one. See the book,
    100 Years Of Lynching and witness what we had and still have to deal with,
    after slavery. I dare you. Watch eyes On the Prize and see what,
    “good upstanding white folks did to Elizabeth Eckford, trying to go to
    school. Check out the bitches of Boston, mothers in their own right, I
    guess, jeer, throw rocks and try to turn over a bus with small Black children
    on it. see how white teenagers were allowed to pummel a Black man, who never
    raised a hand to their sorry evil asses. North and South, so don’t get it
    twisted. four little girls in church on Sunday and Emmett, slaughtered
    by white men,(of course it took more than one to kill a 13 year old ) who
    were paid 7000 dollars by Look magazine, to tell how and why they did it. You
    know in this world and the next, you can all just kiss my ass. And P. S.’ I bet
    it don’t bother cliven a bit about all the little bastard mulattoes that
    they produced during slavery, going so far as to change the law to ensure that
    their bastards would all be slaves, no matter how white they daddy was, so
    don’t worry about ’em now, ok

  3. jamie says:

    In ohhhh, 1940 something, the cotton picking
    machine put thousands of neo-slaves out of that line of work. It created
    one of the largest exoduses of Blacks out of the south, doing something we
    don’t get much credit for doing, looking for “work” Mr moderator
    and whoever else, we just get so damned tired of getting blamed for a system
    that makes all the rules. And I suspect even the people who have a hard
    time being assumed to be racist, know how this mess works. It has always
    been difficult for Black people to tell the difference. If Cliven walked
    up to me with a smile, I could easily mistake him to be non-racist. To
    assume that wouldn’t do me much good though. We have in the not so distant
    past had to kowtow to people who were wearing a sheet the night before Whites
    created this insane system, revel in it to this day, while we are told any of
    our children threatenening enough to kill with impunity and the blessings of
    law enforcement as well as a huge chunk of the white population. No not all of
    you, but… Everybody on this page knows that if the exact same situation
    existed except that Elliot Roger was reported as Black, if Trayvon is any
    example, the police encounter at the apartment would have been a hostile
    encounter. they thought Elliot was a nice kid, all the commenters
    sympathized with him. I’m a fifty-nine year old Black woman and I truly don’t
    know what to do with you guys. I’m beginning to feel that every contact
    that Black people have with white people harms us one way, or another.. And
    what is there about what’s going on, that should make me feel any differently.
    The new spiel is Blacks” are more racist than whites, never seen anyone
    making that statement pick out a particular person with that accusation.
    And then the old, Blacks commit more crime. and that is always said as an
    indictment of all Blacks. It is used to justify the wrongs done to
    us. From slavery, to Trayvon. Is it true of all Blacks, no. Is
    it true of most Blacks, of course not, but you would never know that by vocal
    whites. Kinda reminds me of the kid that use to harass me on the way to
    school all the time; first class bully. One day I was so tired of it, I
    hauled off and slapped the shit out of him. He immediately started
    shouting, I wasn’t playing fair.. I knew then at 12, fair was only when I was
    so afraid of him, I allowed him to take advantage of me. I was never ‘playing’
    with him in the first place. take this any way you want to. I know, racist, right?

    I’m just getting old and I see more clearly than ever, whose behind the curtain, furiously working the levers. And unlike, when I was a child, I am not amused.

  4. jamie says:

    It’s both honey, they wouldn’t give up racism for the world. Nothing like a good old backhand slap on both sides of the face

  5. jamie says:

    I truly enjoyed the show a few months ago when the powers
    that bullshit supposedly shut down the government. I sat amused as my
    friends bit their nails with furrowed brows, assuming this was the end of
    something or other. Relax, I advised them, it will all come to an
    anticlimactic end by the first of the month when all those entitlements are due
    at the grocery store and OMG, the Walmart. As it dawned on them, the
    smiles went across the couch. ‘Walmart alone will snatch a knot in somebody’s
    neck’, one said. “Remember what the cattlemen put Oprah through
    cause she said she wouldn’t eat the
    beef,’ another piped up. “I think you’re right”.
    And so I was. In fact I thought that they might hold off until the 30th
    just to dramatize events and demoralize
    the recipients. Nope, they caved by the 16th of October. What
    myopic people often forget is, who depends on who in America, and for
    what. Sometimes I think all the nonsense is simply intended for the
    people on the bottom to perceive themselves as worthless. Once anything
    gets started under Capitalism, tentacles of greed and opportunism embrace
    it. Try scaling down the mass incarceration system now. According
    to Michele Wallace, literally thousands of working class jobs would disappear.
    Thousands of people are invested in people going to jail by any means
    necessary. That’s why Blacks are so viciously demonized; they have been
    designated for the position, just like the justifications for slavery, now all
    I hear is justifications for locking them up .
    People in upstate New York got crazy when it was announced that the
    state wanted to close some prisons because the crime rates were going
    down. You want less crime, right?
    Wrong, You want jobs and don’t care who has to pay to supply them.
    How many people go to jail under stop and frisk? In my state small towns
    bid for people being sentenced. They have them piled up, sleeping on the
    floor and they are shipped all over the state. Everybody gets a piece of
    the action. America is going to hell in a handbasket and I’m sporting a
    front row seat. The hypocrisy is gonna sink this ship, for sure

  6. Mike_in_the_Tundra says:

    I feel that you made no effort to ascertain who the commenters are. Are we all white? No. Are we racist? Some may be, but you just directed your comment at a lot of people who aren’t. Are any of us African American and racist? Probably. Are any of us Latino and racists? Probably. Are any of us Asian and racist? Probably. Are you lumping a lot of people together? Yes. Are you assigning attributes to a group of people? Yes, and that is called stereotyping.

  7. Jason Shepherd says:

    To whoever is white and racist , yet calls others bigots! Hypocrisy is Easy to see when you have your eyes open!

  8. Moderator3 says:

    You people!?! To whom are you addressing this?

  9. Jason Shepherd says:

    Its hilarious how white bigots say that others are bigots!! Hahaaaaaaaaaaa!!! The ONLY true bigots are scared whites! Scared of the black man being better, shit…even Equality scares them. They are scared, have money, and then influence other weak whites to join in. Some pussy ass bandwagon jumping followers !

  10. Jason Shepherd says:

    Coming from a coward with a fake name!!! Lmao!

  11. Jason Shepherd says:

    You people blame blacks for the demise of our country, welfare…. Lmao! Really? Anyone who thinks “freebies” are the issue are blind ! Its the Rich fucks that keep us all at odds to keep the attention away from themselves as they shape ,mold and rob our society! You fucking idiots that blame minorities are the same sub humans that basically suck their rich cocks to feel important! Its not racism anymore dumb fucks….its Classisim!!! Period! The rich bigots in this country Hate You too whitey. They hate Everyone that is not rich. So, keep talking about picking cotton , while they slowly take away All our rights! White people are so easy to manipulate! When the forces come to disarm us. It will be the rich against the poor! The rich whites will murder their own…! Believe it! Wake up!

  12. Denver Catboy says:

    Trolikins, when you argue with a moderator, you’re playing with fire. But keep it up. Sure, we believe you and your claims about us. I mean, it’s not like the trolls will say any little thing if they think it helps them, right?


  13. Raymond Diaz says:

    If you are bowing out of our conversation then so be it. Good day. However, I will continue on in hope that others might read my views and thoughts. Just so you know. I’m not diverting the topic. You are. “They” got you to divert the topic from a man not wanting to pay the federal government for land use, from the topic of overbearing federal force, from the topic of how civilians must meet federal guns with their own to a conversation about race. If you want to talk about race then by all means ignore my post. If someone out there wants to hear my views of why this man’s statements aren’t about race and if you are wondering why the original NY Times only ran one minute of a three minute, fourteen second long video then please read on.

    When Cliven Bundy begins the interview by speaking about the Watts riots and the 92 riots and says that they were justified as “civil demonstration because they didn’t have safety and they didn’t have freedom” then wouldn’t the context of this rant be about freedoms and not race?

    I’m glad BeccaM agrees that Cliven Bundy “wondered” if blacks would be better off as slaves. I too will agree with her that such a question is silly. However it’s not a comment about race. It is a question and his question is aren’t inner city blacks still slaves to the government? if you don’t believe Cliven Bundy is actually asking that question then believe me that I am asking that. Believe that Rev. Bernice King the daughter of Dr. Martin Luthor King said on the anniversary of her father’s I Have a Dream speach that 150 years after the end of slavery that “the Negro is still not free, African-Americans are still not free.” Rev. Bernice King’s statement, my statement and I believe Cliven Bundy’s statement aren’t suggesting blacks return to slavery it is a comparison of a life dependent on government, to life on the masters plantation. Again, I’ll agree that such a statement is theatrically silly, but it is not racist. It wasn’t racist when Rev Bernice King said it. It’s not hateful when I say it. I believe in my heart and mind, after viewing the entire context of the rant that it was not racist and hateful when Cliven Bundy said it because the statement was not about blacks. It was about dependence on government.

    If that thought is too abstract, if we disagree there then so be it. However, I would ask you to consider Cliven Bundy’s statements towards what he politically incorrectly called Spanish people and generally classified as Mexican immigrants. Tell me what you think of the following statements from Cliven Bundy from the same “negro/cotton/slaves” interview.

    Cliven Bundy says…”Let me tell you about the Mexicans who come across our border illegally, I understand that they broke the law and that they enter against our constitution, but they are people and they are here. I’ve worked side by side with many of these people and don’t tell me they aren’t hard workers. Don’t tell me they don’t pay taxes and don’t tell me they don’t have good family structures. Many of them have better family life than most of us white people. So I think we should be inviting them to our party not trying to keep them out,”

    Cliven Bundy said that in the same video we are all talking about. My questions are this. Is that a racist statement? Is it hateful? Most importantly I ask why didn’t the major news networks show that part of the video? Why didn’t they show the first part where he spoke in support of LA’s inner city black community rioting in the 60’s and 90’s? Why didn’t they show his saying Mexican immigrants are hard working tax payers?

  14. BeccaM says:

    What you did right there, Raymond, is make several attempts at a dishonest debating technique called “diversion.” You brought up several utterly unrelated points to try to get me to focus on them rather than on Mr. Bundy’s ample evidence of racist statements and attitudes.

    You might as well have said, “Cliven Bundy never said the sky was orange.”

    Mr. Bundy said the problem with African Americans — whom he referred to collectively as “The Negro” — is they weren’t taught to pick cotton. And furthermore that he ‘wondered’ if they’d be better off as slaves — and the way he expressed that sentiment, he made it clear which side he fell on with that particular musing.

    Nobody, no human being is ever better off being slave, most especially when it is couched as the alternative to being in subsidized housing.

    Good day sir. We have nothing further to discuss.

  15. Raymond Diaz says:

    Some people viewed the entire interview. Some did not. It is clear who did and who didn’t.


  16. Moderator3 says:

    Don’t act like a troll. You come in here after a long discussion and assume that no one looked at the full interview. Wrong!

  17. Raymond Diaz says:

    Look here. I’m not a troll. I’m just a man who disagrees with the edited view of this story. I’m not a right winger or conservative or GOP endorser. I am Latino, son of a Teamster and SEIU member. I earned a bachelors degree from a public university and I grew up listening to Dead Kennedys and Black Flag. So what I’m about to say to you may come as a shock and I hope it does. I hope it shocks you out of the two party, left right, liberal conservative sports team political view point you’ve been told to believe in. Mr. Bundy merely equated the life of the inner city black to that of life on the masters plantation. He is saying life sucks for inner city blacks. His comparison to slavery may be outlandish, but he is no way saying that blacks should be slaves.

    We live in an incredible time when we can get our news from independent sources, unbiased sources. That source is ourselves. It took me five minutes to find the full interview of Mr. Bundy, to hear the full context of his words and to make up my own mind regarding what this man was trying to say. I urge everyone to please research such matters for themselves. Don’t listen to MSNBC and don’t listen to Fox. Don’t listen to any news network commentators. They are all spewing editorial. It’s not news it’s view points. The real news, the full story is a few key strokes away. Seek it out.

  18. Raymond Diaz says:

    BeccaM, no where in the vid, neither the edited version nor the full three and one half minute version does Cliven Bundy state or suggest that it’s OK to own slaves. If you listen to the full three in one half minute anti burocracy rant you will hear him first reference the Watts riots and 92 riots and how inner city blacks weren’t rioting they were demonstrating. He says they were demonstrating against a government that was not providing freedom and not providing safety. Most importantly he states his acceptance of those demonstrators as being righteous. As Mr. Bundy says in his full three and one half minute video “we have progressed quite a bit from those days until now, and we sure don’t want to go back to that point. We can make a difference right now by taking care of some of these bureaucracies and doing it in a peaceful way.”

    In the same video Cliven Bundy also had kind words for Mexican immigrants whom he calls hard workers, tax payers, good family people and whom he thinks should be invited to the United States not kept out. Those are his words directly from the video. But the sports team politicos out there can’t hear that. They’ve decided long ago that this man was on the other team because that’s what their TV and radio told them to think. And once we saw, all of us saw, how meeting Federal threats of violence with our own threats of violence can actually keep that violence from happening the TV and radio tried to distract us with claims of racism.

    The Bundy Ranch situation was well on the way to being a repeat of Waco and Ruby Ridge. And just to show you I’m not a right winger I will state that the Bundy Ranch situation was on the way to being dealt with just like the Occupy movement was dealt with and just like every other liberal demonstration is dealt with when they call in the police in riot gear and suppress our voices with billy clubs, tear gas and bullets and even with bullets.However, unlike those federal shows of power this civilian show of force ended in peaceful negotiations. For once it ended with civilians walking away unharmed and with property intact and that is why a three and one half minute rant against government bureaucracy is edited to 30 seconds so that all you hear is an old man say negro, cotton and slavery and you can now be distracted from the real story of a man telling the government F. U. I won’t do what you tell me. Ask yourself this. Do you approve of government funded terrorism? Do you approve of guns for drugs? Do you approve of government spying? And just so we’re clear I’m not just speaking of our current presidential administration. I’m speaking of all administrations since WW2. And if you are anti government, anti police state when they send in the troops to break up your liberal demonstration why would you be pro police state in the Bundy situation? When you’ve seen our government train soldiers to enjoy killing innocent people from a helicopter and root the killing on from a control room why would you want this man to pay that same federal government. You people are so team oriented that you don’t even realize that you’re being played.

  19. LAM says:

    This is a very true statement. The events of the last week and a half have opened my eyes to the insane bigotry and racism that exists in the Main Stream Media and all through politics. They have one thing in common. They hate white people.
    When you see a know racist, Spike Lee, as a guest on CNN’s Anderson Cooper, trying to explain racism among white people, something MAJOR is wrong in our country.
    Anderson Cooper is a bigot!??! Who knew?

  20. LAM says:

    He did pick cotton.
    Maybe you should get out there and “pick some cotton”
    Do you think you have a good work ethic yourself?

  21. LAM says:

    Cliven Bundy used to pick cotton. It was hard work and taught you a work ethic. With this new knowledge, go back and listen to the full video, not the chopped up one from the bigoted people at Media Matters.

  22. bossyty1 . says:

    What type of fucking species is this to make such a fuck up statement? Picking cotton is similar to the Involuntary Servitude done today, “Free and reduced labor.” A majority of BLACKS are in prison due to the SET system in the Prejudice U.S. It is the Whites Alliance big time, especially through the law system. “The biggest feeding”

    This prick mind is set on wickedness. Let’s put his ass out on a field to pick some got damn cotton.

  23. cole3244 says:

    well well now the family values scum rise too the top and show their real anger at the white welfare cheaters being found out for the criminals they really are.

    put your head back in the sand chickenhawk that air is more suitable to your definition of democracy or what ever you call it.

  24. BoostedSRT says:

    that means a lot coming from a left/right brain washed drone. Like whores making fun of strippers.

  25. BoostedSRT says:

    because its mostly NYT propaganda……and jesus christ fox news is garbage, but holy fuck the NYT is 100% garbage propaganda the same.

  26. BoostedSRT says:

    yet you don’t care about the far more corrupt bigger problem of the feds…’re worried about a rancher and some fees. Not the militarized police who show up over feeds with copters and machine guns……The modern pussified domesticated American. Welcome to murica home of scared bitches like cole3244

  27. BoostedSRT says:

    programmed and stupid……Americans vote for 2 corrupt institutions that fuck them over yearly, but FB likes is….well…I’m not surprised. Keep up your 2 party programming, lol you’re fighting the power.

  28. BoostedSRT says:

    so long as the black community keeps thinking the racist pieces of elitist garbage in the Democrat party are for them, they will remain where they are. The people who buy votes based on awful racist policies that promote perpetual poverty are far more the problem than a rancher just saying they traded one form of slavery for another, and if you listen to dozens of other comments from bundy, he doesnt sound like much of a racist at all….but the NYT a propaganda arm for the Dem party, of the controlled BS 2 party shit storm…..just sad so many of you are still so f’n programmed.

  29. BoostedSRT says:

    He said that they traded one form of slavery for another, which you can hear dozens of black leaders say as well…..Why not do your own work, or just depend on a propaganda article from the NYT? lol your blog is as lazy as the rest of the US media…doing good.

  30. Denver Catboy says:

    The thing about the Internet is you can claim to be anything you want to be. Me? I’m a catboy — a human with furry cat ears, a fuzzy tail, and whiskers. Because it’s the internet, and on the internet, no one knows you’re a dog…or a catboy.

    So many lies in the above post I can prove.

    Why does the government not subsidize Habitat for Humanity? Let’s Google Habitat Government Subsidies. Oh what do you know. Habitat is government sponsored, according to the ‘govgrants’ page on their own website! Did you just not know, or did you pull working for Habitat out of a dark place. It’s the internet. We’ll never know.

    We liberals don’t know personal responsibility? Every single one of us? Wow. Poor trolikins brush is very wide. Here’s a hint for you, Trolikins. All it takes is one example of a counter to your argument and you’re sunk. This ‘liberal’ (really, just sanity in government, not too big, not too small, keeping your snooping eyes out of my e-mail and bedroom, etc, and neither liberal nor conservative.) has graduated with a 3.95 GPA in IT, and is working at the only place that is willing to take a chance on him, the government, and ended up getting serious kudos from his employers. Of course, this IS the internet, so I could be BSing as well, so take that as you may.

    And seriously? My people? Both on Reservations AND in inner cities, rife with crime? What are you, African/Indian? And you bag on them for all the usual right-wing talking points? Who talks like that? Combined with your two demonstrated bald-faced lies above, I think you’re talking out of the other orifice.

    But let’s bring this back on topic, Trolikins. You and yours bitch against the poor and the blacks (and apparently the Native Americans now), saying it’s their fault that they’re in the predicament you say they’re in, while insinuating that slavery would build character in them and that it’s their fault they’re being screwed by the system. You also advocate for other things like banning abortions in all cases (while simultaneously complaining that poor people have too many kids! There’s your illogic right there, trollikins), sticking medical instruments up the privates of women who disagree with you and want or even need abortions, or even letting them _die_ instead of getting a needed abortion (cf: Hindu woman in Ireland who died because Catholic doctors refused to save her because ALL the babies must be born!), and of course shoving your religion down our throats. And for extra amusement you get bent out of shape when all your ugly is put together and just pointed out. :)

    So, trollikins. keep up the good work. You’re totally bringing everyone to your side! You’re totally helping your side. And you’re sure not making your side look bad. :)

  31. Jim says:

    You have serious mental problems.

  32. Mike_in_the_Tundra says:

    Native American? First American? Sioux?

    I’m Latino and calling me Spanish would be wrong and inaccurate. I don’t even speak Spanish. Spanglish at best, and I don’t even do that well.

  33. BeccaM says:

    Guess you don’t really understand the concept of slavery then. Actual, literal slavery.

    That’s too bad.

  34. Meteorlady says:

    Why? I’m a minority and I agree with some of his comments. Slaves at least had their own housing and the family unit stayed together. Now, we have them congregated in the inner cities with nothing but poverty, bad schools, high crime, and no jobs. So is that better?

    Go to a reservation one day and see what government help has done to my people. Many are lazy and don’t want to work; many drink too much, and they are mired in poverty for the rest of their lives. There are no jobs and the educational system has failed them.

    So who is the bigot here? I believe it to be the liberals who pass out the fruits of another person’s labor to enslave others on the government plantation without hope of getting out.

  35. Meteorlady says:

    What exactly did he say racist? Please enlighten me because I read his entire interview and it was mostly the truth.

    “The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those who speak it.” George Orwell

    “When even one American – who has done nothing wrong – is forced by fear to shut his mind and close his mouth, then all Americans are in peril.” Harry Truman

    “There are groups of people who would like to silence everybody and have everybody go along to get along, but that’s not going to be very helpful for us int he long run because somebody has to be courageous enough to actually stand up to the bullies.” Dr. Ben Carson

    “When you want to help people you tell them the truth. When you want to help yourself, you tell them what they want to hear.” Dr. Thomas Sowell

  36. Meteorlady says:

    Because that’s what YOUR government used to call them before they changed their “label” a few times.

    I’m Sioux so what do you call me except “minority which is insulting, racist and condescending.

  37. Meteorlady says:

    Grow up… please. Blame Ted Cruz, FOX news, Perry and the rest? You are a troll that puts crap out without any facts to support them. You are create hate, distrust and irresponsibility.

    From a “hateful Redneck” who lives in the South and works for local charities instead of depending on a broken government to get things done.

    Racist? I’m a minority and have never been treated badly because I got an education, worked hard and gained the respect of the people in my community for taking care of myself and my family.

  38. Meteorlady says:

    Bundy scares the heck out of our government. He’s standing up and if people would not have shown up and started taking pictures and movies, he would probably have lost his cattle and his ranch.

    He tried to pay in grazing fees – he just refused to sign a Contract with the BLM which he considered wrong.

  39. Meteorlady says:

    Sorry but you are nuts. You do know that the KKK was started by Democrats right? You do know that Lyndon Baines Johnson – a Democrat made a statement after passage of the Great Society programs and the Civil Rights ACT stated: “that should keep those “N….ers” voting Democrat for the next 200 years.”

    Everything is not all what it seems to be and the news media in poisoning people with their half truths and lies. Start investigating and look at the story with an open mind.

    You are not special because you think are defending people like me, you are just another brainwashed liberal trying to make himself feel superior.

  40. Meteorlady says:

    So when you take the money I EARN via higher and higher taxation, that doesn’t hurt the economy? When you have a government that is spending more than it takes in and running up a deficit we have to pay interest on – that doesn’t hurt the economy?

    The fact is that government spending on social engineering is unaffordable. It’s not working and we are creating poverty and rat holes in the inner cities. So it’s Ok in your eyes of people sit on their porch and collect the money other earn? Wow, I must have missed that when I learned responsibility and work ethic.

    You think it’s OK to label people “minority”? That is insulting and condescending. You also divide people by race and that is bigoted in itself. I’m a Sioux and I have seen the government help given to my people – it’s not pretty and it’s not helpful. It’s enslavement.

  41. Meteorlady says:

    It’s not “friendly” it’s hate. But hey, it’s OK for you right? You can call names, insults and write unintelligent posts that have no basis in facts, yet in the end you are irrelevant.

    As a person classified as a “minority” by my government I just says I’m insulted and find this label condescending and arrogant. In fact I find liberals to be illogical in their thinking.

    I have watched what all the failed government programs have done to my people. They live on reservations with bad schools, total poverty, no hope of jobs, and they are congregated in high crime areas in inner cities.

    The family structure is broken down because they don’t have to be responsible for having children they can’t afford, the government will pay for it (we the people). They can take drugs and run to the local hospital emergency room to get free treatment, the people will pay for it. They can be obese and get free healthcare because they don’t take care of themselves, the taxpayers will provide.

    The very fact that you have this condescending attitude is what makes people like me angry. I am in no need of your programs or your help so you can feel good about yourself. I’m not subhuman, nor am I stupid and I am able to discern personal responsibility and I value education. I worked through high school and save for college, attended college and graduated with an advanced degree in Economics and a minor in History.

    After college I worked menial jobs to save to start a business. I ran a very successful business until end of last year when I quit and shut my doors. I employed 122 people but most of the time they were making more than I did after I paid for government regulations, taxes and healthcare.

    I currently mentor at risk school children and we currently have 27 young people attending various colleges throughout the US. These young people have learned personal responsibility and the work ethic that brings rewards to them. Something you liberals don’t know about.

    I also work Habitat building low cost housing. We are on our 78th home and we have families that are now self-sufficient homeowners.

    So ask yourself this – why don’t the liberals support these charities, or the government at least subsidize them?

  42. Meteorlady says:

    Notice since the stats came out that civilians were casualties of these, there are no more monthly stats given on drone attacks?

  43. Meteorlady says:

    Clive Bundy: Livelong cattle rancher, produces beef to feed Americans. BLM claimed he owes $1.1 M in fees. Government’s response: surround his ranch with 200 armed agents and take his cattle.

    Al Sharpton: Lifelong race baiter, produces resentment and anger among Americans. IRS Claims he owes $1.9 IN TAXES. Governments response: fundraiser and dinner with President Obama.

    Know also that Bundy did try to pay his fees but refused to sign a contract with the BLM so why didn’t they just take the money instead of harassing him for payment and spending OUR TAX DOLLARS?

  44. Meteorlady says:

    Clive Bundy: Livelong cattle rancher, produces beef to feed Americans. BLM claimed he owes $1.1 M in fees. Government’s response: surround his ranch with 200 armed agents and take his cattle.

    Al Sharpton: Lifelong race baiter, produces resentment and anger among Americans. IRS Claims he owes $1.9 IN TAXES. Governments response: fundraiser and dinner with President Obama.

    Know also that Bundy did try to pay his fees but refused to sign a contract with the BLM so why didn’t they just take the money instead of harassing him for payment and spending $22 M OF OUR TAX DOLLARS?

  45. Guest says:

    Clive Bundy: Livelong cattle rancher, produces beef to feed Americans. BLM claimed he owes $1.1 M in fees. Government’s response? surround his ranch with 200 harmed agents and take his cattle.

    Al Sharpton: Lifelong rach baiter, produces resentment and anger among Americans. IRS Claims he owes $1.9 IN TAXES. Governments response: fundraiser and dinner with President Obama.

    Know also that Bundy did try to pay his fees but refused to sign a contract with the BLM so why didn’t they just take the money instead of harassing him for payment and spending $22 M OF OUR TAX DOLLARS?

  46. Meteorlady says:

    How dare you speak the truth… Liberals can’t handle the truth.

  47. Meteorlady says:

    No – not really – it’s not bigoted if you speak the truth.. Sorry, but I’m through falling for the bigot card…..

    Clive Bundy: Livelong cattle rancher, produces beef to feed Americans. BLM claimed he owes $1.1 M in fees. Government’s response? surround his ranch with 200 harmed agents and take his cattle.

    Al Sharpton: Lifelong rach baiter, produces resentment and anger among Americans. IRS Claims he owes $1.9 IN TAXES. Governments response: fundraiser and dinner with President Obama.

  48. Meteorlady says:

    So you believe that minorities are better off congregated in inner cities with bad schools, high crime and no jobs? That’s living on the government plantation.

    When LBJ got his Great Society programs passed, he said that “they would keep those N word voting Democrat for the next 200 years.”

    Seems to be working wonderfully since 52% of the people are not paying taxes while the rest of us work to supply them with their freebies.

  49. Meteorlady says:

    Really? You are racist – it’s a two way street. AND here’s a little thing from a very intelligent Black man named Lloyd Marcus, Tea Party leader and Chairman of the Conservative Campaign Committee:

    “In his New Yorker magazine interview, Obama claimed the following as a contributing factor for his declining poll numbers, “There’s no doubt that there’s some folks who just really dislike me because they don’t like the idea of a black president.”

    While it is easy to simply add race-baiting to Obama’s growing list of character flaws, I see a much deeper consequence to Obama using his skin color for political cover.

    “Black youths. It is extremely irresponsible for the most powerful black man in the world to tell black youths that a significant portion of white America will always seek their demise due to their skin color. As my late mom would say, such is a lie from the pits of hell.

    The vast majority of Americans are fair-minded, decent and extremely generous, striving for a post racial nation. Oprah along with countless black actors, recording artists, athletes and so on are ga-zillioniares due to the support of white America. For crying out loud, white America put Obama in the White House and even awarded him an undeserved second term.

    For years, black rappers have made their fortunes claiming that America is eternally racist; birthing songs like “Cop Killer”. When the black president of the United States furthers the same hate-inspiring narrative, Houston we have a serious, serious problem.

    The Administration and mainstream media have irresponsibly used Obama’s skin color as a nuclear weapon to nuke opposition to his socialist/progressive agenda. But, at what cost to the hearts and minds of black youths?

    What about the growing black flash mob attacks? What about the growing incidents of the knockout game and polar bear hunting (black youths attacking innocent whites)?

    Realizing the obvious racially polarizing and possible violent repercussions, one would assume the last thing the first black president would do is accuse white America’s racism as the reason for his tanking poll numbers.”

    See – according to your comment it would seem Lloyd is correct and you are doing exactly what the government wants – divide and conquer. Keep the sheeple busy with stories like this while the run the country into the ground.

    Bundy tried to pay his grazing fees – he just would not sign an Contract with BLM.

  50. MACV says:

    Ahhhhh ….. racist white men …. a dying breed that is not dying fast enough to suit me. Remember it is ALWAYS someone else who is at fault and not you!

  51. Jim says:

    In other words, you’re a hateful bigot and it makes you feel good to hear other hateful bigots.

  52. Billrolan says:

    “Diversity” means chasing down the last white person. It`s genocide.

  53. Buford says:

    Well said… and racism aside, I’m not sure I need a lecture on how govt subsidies are a form of slavery from someone whose livelihood for decades has been completely dependent upon govt subsidies.

  54. Denver Catboy says:

    What’s amatter, trollikins? Don’t like a little friendly ribbing with a word the Tea Party themselves selected before they realized exactly what that word meant? :) Can’t take being reminded what we think of you, that we’d rather just take a sophomoric response used by teenaged gamers who beat each other in games like Halo as a description for you? Can’t take the fact that if you had the chance, you’d virtually tea-bag everyone you found disagreeable, and the name speaks truth to your power? Hmm, Tea Bagger?

    Cry some more. Your tears are delicious. :)

  55. Denver Catboy says:

    Hi, trolikins. Of course you support this tool. He’s so much like you. And note: even the GOP is running from him like he’s toxic. Wonder why that is. Keep up the good work! Spread that ideology far and wide, and make SURE to broadcast you’re part of the GOP! :D :D :D

  56. Stephen Rzeczka says:

    Just send that check mr Obama!! :)

  57. Stephen Rzeczka says:

    He does hit the nail on the head!!!! This is not a third world country yet!!

  58. Stephen Rzeczka says:

    Such a shame the media filters so much!!

  59. Stephen Rzeczka says:

    Love this guy!!! He tells it like he sees it!!! We are so programmed to be politically correct it’s a shame!!

  60. bfast says:

    I am sure that all of us agree that the African American people, as a whole, are not as well off or successful as we would like them to be. It would appear a man may not consider a possible cause, in this case government subsidy, for this disparity. After watching the raw footage of Clive Bundy, I think that he is seeking to free the African American from the slavery of government handouts. He is not seeking a re-enslavement at all; he is seeing that they remain slaves, albeit to to a slaveowner that enables them to do as little as possible.

    I am also sure that Mr. Bundy would agree that there are many African Americans that have found their way to freedom from this new slavery. I am sure that he rejoices for those who have successfully become professionals, tradesmen, and hard working folk that make an honest living. I think he would love to see these success stories become much more abundant.

  61. dyingempire says:

    Cliven Bundy
    “… and so what I’ve testified to ya’, I was in the WATTS riot, I seen the beginning fire and I seen the last fire. What I seen is civil disturbance. People are not happy, people is thinking they did not have their freedom; they didn’t have these things, and they didn’t have them.

    We’ve progressed quite a bit from that day until now, and sure don’t want to go back; we sure don’t want the colored people to go back to that point; we sure don’t want the Mexican people to go back to that point; and we can make a difference right now by taking care of some of these bureaucracies, and do it in a peaceful way….”

    “….Now, let me talk about the Spanish people. You know I understand that they come over here against our constitution and cross our borders. But they’re here and they’re people – and I’ve worked side-by-side a lot of them.

    Don’t tell me they don’t work, and don’t tell me they don’t pay taxes. And don’t tell me they don’t have better family structure than most of us white people. When you see those Mexican families, they’re together, they picnic together, they’re spending their time together, and I’ll tell you in my way of thinking they’re awful nice people.

    And we need to have those people join us and be with us…. not, not come to our party….”
    end of quote.
    whats really shameful is a bunch of people running off half cocked with not even reading the whole transcript or watching the whole video and running their mouth about it, taking ridiculous liberty for their own attacks on groups of people. it is truly shameful to, in an improper context, condemn a man. that is what is really shameful and disgusting. that nonsense is what makes this a weak minded, mean-spirited country. is that what you want?

    I suggest you actually pay attention to what he said, albeit awkwardly for today’s pathetic, politically correct, simple minded ADD world that cant imagine not getting all their news from some soundbyte from fox or cnn and then off to their ipad for some facebooking and selfies.
    wake up. you are being manipulated by the media. you are brainwashed.

  62. janchup says:

    These days some people think thought crimes are far worse than drone murders.

  63. TheTruthhurts says:

    You want to know when the left wing bots are losing on an issue, they throw the race card. Not that the left wing drones are interested, but there is an actual video about 3 minutes and 14 seconds long which was not edited by George Soros’ media matters. Though Clive Bundy’s terminology is a bit dated, he is not the crazed racist the libtard media is making him out to be.

  64. markkozikowski says:

    “Senator Rand Paul, (KY-Tea Bagger GOP) and Senator Dean Heller (NV-same)”
    I’m wondering, after excoriating Mr. Bundy for intolerable PC speech, is it possible to condone the use of “Tea Bagger” when referring to another person?
    OR, can we say that this author has debased their entire argument by being less than the target of their article.
    After all is said and done, Mr. Bundy was speaking of the horrendous treatment of the minorities by The Government, while this author is using derogatory and angry words on purpose for the sole desire to hate and raise a pitchfork against another.
    Seems the author is more the ugly American than Mr. Bundy.

  65. Steve Zodiac says:

    Even though there is more to the video where Mr. Bundy says we don’t want to go back to those days, he also classifies an entire race of people (2 races in fact if you include his comments about Mexicans) as being without work, lazy, welfare queens, and “thinks out loud” if they were better off as slaves picking cotton because of what he calls “entitlements”. Those so-called “entitlements” do more to fuel the economy and create jobs than anything this guy does. His entitlements (free grazing) allows him to have more profits and wealth but he does nothing more to stimulate the economy than any of the people he puts down by calling them “welfare queens” etc… People are stereo-typed and people are put down because of their race and standing in society – it is nothing but PURE RACISM AND BIGOTRY – no matter how some people try to spin this.

  66. Steve Zodiac says:

    The context they were a part of was a long racist and bigoted rant against blacks and the poor. All coming out of the mouth of a man getting rich by abusing public lands and enjoying the “welfare” of the state through allowing his cattle to graze fee – as he laughs all the way to the bank – while like Phil Robinson attacking blacks (and in Bundy’s case poor people instead of gays) as people defend his views and the nation puts television popularity and celebrity ahead of basic human and civil rights.

    First you had Robinson spewing this same racist rubbish, then you had the head of a K.K.K. Neo-Nazi group shooting up a Jewish house of worship, that was followed up by the abolishment of affirmative action, and now we’ve got some redneck rancher spewing racist prattle and bigotry – the likes of which I’ve seldom seen openly expressed outside of some secretive K.K.K. meeting on a tv show.

    Maybe it’s time for a new civil rights movement in America. It is shameful and disgusting to see that the K.K.K. and their Neo-Nazi views, racism and open bigotry of many groups of people alive and well and flourishing these days.

  67. stopthesocialism says:

    Bundy’s statements WERE taken out of context. He didn’t imply that Blacks should become slaves again. He was merely stating that the current conditions for Blacks in American now, is worse than those conditions under slavery.
    E.g. 1 in every 4 adult Black men are convicted felons. The disproportionate number of Blacks in prison. The murder rate for Black communities in Chicago, Detroit, DC, etc. The number of children born out of wedlock. The number of abortions, poor health, drug abuse, etc.
    Bundy blames those poor conditions on Government mismanagement. And he’s right.

  68. Mark N Starla Traina says:


    the PEOPLE in this VIDEO are LIBERAL LIARS, except for COLIN FLAHERTY!

    but don’t tell ANYBODY, just let it be our DIRTY little SECRET!

    PEOPLE will SUFFER the MOST once PRESIDENT OBAMA turns all these BLACK

    HORNY and lookin for a FIX!





    into the follow CRIME INFESTED CITIES & TOWNS:

    1) DETROIT

    2) DENVER


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    5) ST. LOUIS


    7) NEWARK

    8) MEMPHIS




    12) MONROE

    13) HOUSTON

    14) DALLAS

    15) PHILLY



    18) OAKLAND

    19) WATTS



    22) Charleston




    26) JACKSON

    27) MIAMI



    30) FLINT

    WHITE PEOPLE are once again WARNED about TRAVELING through these CRACK &


    FACT: “To be FORWARNED is to be FOREARMED!”


    The NAAWP is not in any way associated with the INFAMOUS KLU KLUX KLAN and we
    don’t believe in RANDON ACTS of VIOLENCE, nor do we PROMOTE RACIAL HATRED!

    FACT: Our MEMBERS came from all WALKS of LIFE and but we converge in our LOVE


  69. slouching says:

    And whaddaya wanna bet they all vote in every election despite their disbelief?

  70. slouching says:

    Actually, in many states, he can now shoot legally Mr. Tibbs and say he feared for his life.

  71. The_Fixer says:

    Right back atcha, Pappyvet!

  72. BeccaM says:

    I guess he thinks Bundy was advocating the soft & fuzzy kind of slavery and whip-compelled cotton-picking…

  73. Mike_in_the_Tundra says:

    Colored people? Spanish people? I would love to hear why you think this is non-racist.

  74. BeccaM says:

    That’s a rather patronizing attitude to take.

    And fuck yes, saying that ‘negroes’ need to learn to pick cotton and ought to be owned as slaves again is racist as all hell. As is anybody who thinks it’s anything but a moral abomination to own another human being.

    What is wrong with you? Even Sean Hannity showed proper disgust and shame over Bundy’s racist remarks.

  75. Raymond Diaz says:

    You can take your opinion from MSNBC or from FOX or you can do your own research, listen to the full 3 minute video and decide for yourself if what was said about Mr. Bundy being a racist is true. Watch the whole 3 minute video and tell me if he speaks from a place of hateful racism.

  76. Raymond Diaz says:

    Here is the full 3 min vid where Mr. Bundy sounds nothing like a racist. In the full video you’ll here him place the slavery soundbite in the context of a repressive government exchanging the slavery of the plantation for the slavery of inner city life. It’s a poor comparison, but not a hate filled racist comment. Proof of that is in the same video when he speaks of Mexican immigrant being hard working, tax paying, and having better family structure than most whites and suggests we should let them into the country not keep them out.

  77. pappyvet says:

    Good Godfrey. Yes Fixer ,you are a person I can love. ;]

  78. BeccaM says:

    pretty soon you will wearing heels and pearls to bed

    Only when my wife asks me to. ;-)

  79. BeccaM says:

    Yeah — the BLM was lenient with him for going on two full decades now. It’s not overreach to enforce laws and regulations regarding the use of federally-owned lands. Bundy had his day in court (a bunch of times) and has lost every single time.

    I’d say if anything, their big mistake was in being too lenient.

  80. Silver_Witch says:

    Be careful at the Fox News place – I hear they suck your brains out and turn you into a pod person…pretty soon you will wearing heels and pearls to bed ::giggle::

  81. Silver_Witch says:

    I am glad Hannity has hung himself from his own petard and hope the support of this racist fool is the end of his world.

    P.S. BeccaM well done you….excellent post.

  82. pappyvet says:

    “People that for the right reasons saw this case as government overreach.”
    Sorry Sean,the message and the messenger are both wrong.

  83. BeccaM says:

    And the bromance is over. The goose is cooked, etc. Cliven Bundy has lost his BFF and #1 Fan, the man who for most of a month spooged himself daily while covering this subsidy-mooching resource-stealing scofflaw rancher story, Sean Hannity.

    Conservative media titan Sean Hannity, formerly one of Nevada rancher Clive Bundy’s strongest advocates, expressed his vehement disgust Thursday with the latter’s remarks on slavery

    Bundy’s comments “are beyond repugnant to me. They are beyond despicable to me. They are beyond ignorant to me,” Hannity said during his radio show.
    “People that for the right reasons saw this case as government overreach now are branded because of the ignorant, racist, repugnant, despicable comments of Cliven Bundy,” he said.

    After playing a clip of Bundy trying to clarify what he meant, Hannity said: “Just turn it off. I don’t want to hear it anymore. It’s obnoxious, ignorant.”

  84. The_Fixer says:

    Actually, he has 160 acres (not that it makes much difference).

    Aside from the cattle, he farms melons. I am really surprised that he didn’t work the well-known “negro love of watermelon” into his diatribe.

    Good Godfrey, this guy is an ass.

  85. 4th Turning says:

    Might be useful at some point to squeeze in a bit of historical perspective…
    If there is any truth to that old thing about 2+ sides to every argument.
    Gotcha crap always chills reasoned dialogue and fires up the worst
    in us.

  86. Island In The Sky says:

    How fascinating: there’s a “support Cliven Bundy” FB page which is declining in its “likes”. Hahaha, where’s the love?!

  87. cole3244 says:

    i want to know why this piece of useless filth was allowed to refuse to pay his grazing fees for over 20 years, i know the while stupid bigoted fools have precedence in racist america but this is beyond the pale.

  88. angryspittle says:

    Why? These fucking cretins revel in their stupidity. They are actually proud of their ignorance.

  89. BeccaM says:

    I’m with Houndentenor — I’d rather nobody get shot. But he and everybody else who pulled guns on government employees and law enforcement officers ought to be facing criminal charges.

  90. BeccaM says:

    Just for sh*ts and giggles, I pulled up the Fox News website.

    Bundy’s name appears nowhere on the front page. There is no story more recent than two days ago (4/22) and zero mention of his racist remarks anywhere.

  91. BeccaM says:

    It would be amusing, for sure.

  92. 4th Turning says:

    And another very popular “region” for retired military…

    Little known…

    Ft. Missoula, Montana) were used to incarcerate 2,260 “dangerous persons” of Japanese ancestry taken from 12 Latin American countries by the US State and Justice Departments. Approximately 1,800 were Japanese Peruvians. The U.S. government wanted them as bargaining chips for potential hostage exchanges with Japan, and actually did use. After the war, 1400 were prevented from returning to their former country, Peru. Over 900 Japanese Peruvians were deported to Japan. 300 fought it in the courts and were allowed to settle in Seabrook, NJ. Efforts to bring justice to the Japanese Peruvians are still active; for information contact Grace Shimizu, 510-528-7288.

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  93. Houndentenor says:

    Well I’d rather not have anyone get shot, but I hate to see him get away with acting that way because it just emboldens the next idiot.

    Also, anyone who thinks black people were better off under slavery (as hard as it is to believe anyone actually thinks that) should be treated to a viewing of 12 Years a Slave. From what I hear as brutal as the movie is (and it was often hard to watch) the book chronicles even more brutality. No, not all slaves were treated that badly but many were and any of them could be, which (aside from the obvious immorality of one person owning another) is a main reason why the very idea that such a system was better than being on welfare for a time is absurd. Statements like that cannot go unchallenged even when refuting them is such an exercise of stating the obvious.

  94. Elijah Shalis says:

    Well they don’t like reading too many books lol You might get ideas

  95. BillFromDover says:

    And we can now add illiteracy to the mix.

  96. Naja pallida says:

    Which ever reporter got that line out of him should have followed it up by asking Paul’s stance on the Civil Rights Act, and whether he thinks businesses should be allowed to deny service to people on the basis of race. I so want to see him tiptoe around that one again.

  97. BeccaM says:

    Ten hours later, Senator Ron Paul’s office finally issued a statement. In a press release, Paul is reported as saying, “His remarks on race are offensive and I wholeheartedly disagree with him.”


  98. GarySFBCN says:

    I’m borrowing this NOW. Great post!

  99. Elijah Shalis says:

    Okay this guy is a cook and a racist. Clearly some people didn’t get the memo that the civil war is over and the slaves were freed and civil rights legislation was passed. My mom’s family is all very liberal now but their ancestor James L Wingfield was a Corporal in the Confederate Army Irish Brigade and owned two Plantations with over 100 slaves each (now the house is a bed and breakfast). Some people just are ignorant and can’t move on.

  100. Naja pallida says:

    As far as I can tell the general Republican response so far is: How dare he make theft and sedition look like bad things with racism!

  101. BeccaM says:

    In case anybody would like to see the actual video of Mr. Bundy expounding on the virtues of ‘negro slavery’, and see that what’s quoted above is 100% accurate, here it is, courtesy of Media Matters:

  102. sane37 says:

    For consistency sake, he should have been shot.

    Being shot for breaking the law then arming and threatening the feds is only reserved for accused liberals or minorities apparently.

  103. dommyluc says:

    Everyone should shove this up the asses of every Republican politician and every right-wing pundit that have been giving Bundy a nice wet media blowjob. Keep talking, Clivin. And I am sure lots and lots of his defenders will double down on their undying love for this supreme dickhead. I can see the media REALLY covering this now, and it’s only a matter of time before his militia idolators begin dropping the “N” bomb like there’s no tomorrow, and I’m sure they’ll throw Obama’s name into that mix, too.
    Hey, Hannity, got time to take your tongue out of Bundy’s ass to comment on this matter? Yeah, I didn’t think so. Jagoff. And I hope they fucking crucify that nutjob whore Michelle Fiore.

  104. BeccaM says:

    Hell, I heard it in my own home, growing up in Pennsylvania. But you’re right: Normally the unreconstructed racists aren’t given a national platform.

  105. pappyvet says:

    It’s alarming that he feels so comfortable with his hatred. But then The Southern Poverty Law Center counted over 1000 hate groups with many having their own website. The number went way up after President Secret Muslim/ not a citizen/ gonna allow terrorists into the country/Obama was elected.
    Racism and hatred were never defeated, and these people were raised by someone to believe this crap. It has been solidly planted in them and I would not be surprised if we see some terrible act occurring somewhere in the country

  106. Houndentenor says:

    If a non-white person had pulled that crap they’d have been shot cold where they stood. I’m not saying that’s what should have happened to this guy but it’s amazing how far white privilege can get people even when they are openly breaking the law.

  107. Houndentenor says:

    Someone more well known said basically what he’s quoted as saying about a year ago (or thereabouts) because I remember a clip of Whoopi Goldberg referencing it on The View. What those of you who aren’t from or who don’t live in Teabagistan probably don’t know is that people like this talk this way ALL THE TIME. It’s just that reporters aren’t usually putting mics in their faces and as much as possible even people who share their political views try to keep them away from microphones. But this doesn’t sound at all unfamiliar.

  108. Monophylos Fortikos says:

    Oh, man…it’s almost funny. I think that the press has been somewhat obsessed ever since 2009 that there’s some sort of genuine, grassroots movement against “big government” with an honest motive behind it and not just pure spite that a guy from the wrong party of the wrong race got elected President. The trouble is that, every time the press digs up an example of this supposed high-minded populism, they find instead that they’ve dug up some boring and noisome old racist who’s still pissed that he can’t slap Mr. Tibbs any more without getting slapped back.

  109. BeccaM says:

    That’s the kind of casual racism I expect from the wingnuts. But for him to come right out and use the words “negroes,” “picking cotton,” and “better off as slaves” — and to do so in front of a reporter — knocked me back on my heels a bit.

  110. pappyvet says:

    Ya Know Sis , I kinda give Bundy more credit than the everyday wingnut with their talk of “inner city” people and other codes that they use to nudge nudge winky winky their hatred.

  111. Indigo says:

    My goodness! All that fuss from 140 acres? He’s small potatoes in the cattle industry.

  112. BeccaM says:

    I’d been wondering if this all would lead to an actual militant white supremacist movement, too. Just didn’t think it’d get there this fast…although the presence of the Oath Keepers militia was a bit of a giveaway.

  113. BeccaM says:

    Same hope here. And there’s no way the Feds will let him continue to defy the law forever.

    I still find it jaw-droppingly ironic how in one breath Bundy and his supporters can claim they don’t believe in the authority of the United States and its government — in Bundy’s own words, to deny America “even exists” — then surround themselves with the trappings of nationalistic patriotism, including the American flag.

  114. FLL says:

    Bundy’s racist comments area not a surprise. Why not, you ask? When I watched the news report that you linked to in your article from yesterday, the news anchor mentioned one Jim Lordy from Montana who was representative of the armed militia people now surrounding Bundy… and I thought, “Oh no, not Kalispell.” Follow that trail of bread crumbs and it will lead you to Flathead County in northwest Montana (and the towns of Kalispell, Columbia Falls and Whitefish), which is the new home of the largest white supremacist and militia movement groups in the country. I don’t know if the local population of Flathead County is fed up with their antics yet. We’ll see.

  115. cambridgemac says:

    Oooh! Could someone please encourage Bundy to run for Congress? Or Governor? I’m ready to send in my $5 now to help the Republican Party continue to expand its big tent.

  116. GarySFBCN says:

    I should add that that he should have been in jail long before these racist revelations.

  117. MyrddinWilt says:

    Bundy is just an ignorant schlub who never really questioned anything unless his own interests were at stake. So he now considers himself to be a super-patriot while he threatens US government forces with an armalite rifle.

    I hope the Feds round up these pseudo patriots, disarm them and stick the leaders in jail.

  118. GarySFBCN says:

    Doesn’t he know that the “cotton picking” classes in the vocational education program at the University of Phoenix are always full?

  119. BeccaM says:

    I can’t either. However, I was surprised he was willing to go on the record and be so open about it.

  120. BeccaM says:

    Hell, it was just yesterday that one of our drive-by trolls said it was liberals who were the racists. (Oddly enough, the trolls never bother to explain exactly why. It’s always the dine-and-dash version of projection.)

    There’s not much point in asking them to be consistent in their hate and prejudice.

    In any event, I expect we’ll soon be entering the “Clive Bundy is just a product of his upbringing and those are the terms people used back then” phase of excuses. Although I suspect the slavery and cotton picking might just be a bit too steamy a pile of rancid racism to ignore, even for Fox.

  121. Houndentenor says:

    I just can’t fake pretending to be surprised that this guy is racist. I don’t think even Meryl Streep could pull that off.

  122. jomicur says:

    Wait, I’m a bit confused, here. For years we’ve been told by the racists among us that people on welfare (all black, of course) like to have as many children as possible, so they can get bigger welfare checks for their bigger families. Now it turns out that being on welfare actually spurs them to have abortions?! Um, which is it? Would one of our teabag trolls please take the trouble to clear this up for us?

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