“I am a Ukrainian” – this video needs to go viral

A powerful video from Ukraine on the peaceful protests that have now turned violent, after the Russian-leaning government attacked its own people.


I’ll be writing more about what’s going on in Kiev in my next post. But in the meantime, you simply must watch this two minute video, and share it.

We are civilized people, but our government are barbarians. Let’s not [have] a Soviet Union. We want our courts not to be corrupted. We want to be free…

I ask you now to help us.  We have this freedom inside our hearts. We have this freedom in our minds.  And now I ask you to build this freedom in our country.  You can help us only by telling this story to your friends. Only by sharing this video.  Please share it.

Wow. Just wow.

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113 Responses to ““I am a Ukrainian” – this video needs to go viral”

  1. phylius1988 says:

    The state controlled the economy, so no, it was not capitalist.

  2. phylius1988 says:

    “Mussolini declared the merger of corporate, state, and religious power the purpose and here you have done the same.”

    I didn’t say anything of the sort.

    “capitalism is amoral”

    Earning your money and getting it is not amoral. Taking it away from someone is.

    Gosh, you’re dense.

  3. phylius1988 says:

    You’re insane/paid.

  4. phylius1988 says:

    With it doesn’t mean because of it. If some rich people were fascists, it doesn’t mean that being a fascist and rich have anything to do with each other.

  5. Badgerite says:

    The USA isn’t broke. Russia will be if it keeps up current behavior and runs as fast as it can back to the past. Foreign investment will flee, if it isn’t already.

  6. Ian says:

    That is a disgusting comment. Vladimir Putin is a fine leader of Russia (with above 60% popularity ratings) who stands up against the bullying corrupt Western banking Empire, now bust and desperate for war and new conquest, – e.g Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, and the list goes on. The greatest threat to world peace is the U.S.A. Role-on Scottish Independence!!

  7. Ian says:

    Wrong – Russia offered to support Ukraine IN TANDEM with the EU, but the EU didn’t want the Ukraine. The EU is broke, bust, bankrupt, just like the U.S.A and U.K. I find it amazing how people here in England, most of whom want to leave the EU, now support the Ukrainian thugs destroying Kiev because it is anti-Russian. Role on Scottish Independence!!!

  8. Ian says:

    What propaganda have you been watching? The BBC I suppose? For weeks now the Police have been hounded and bombarded by organised thugs paid for by the CIA and John McCain and chums to terrorise Kiev. They have stood resolutely and calmly in the face of this barrage against democracy. Remember the current government was elected in a free and fair election only a short time ago. 7 Police officers have been shot dead for preserving the Rule of Law and hundreds more put in hospital. And now ignorant English people who want out of the EU are suddenly finding an interest in supporting the Ukrainian fascist thugs who are demanding an overthrow of the elected government. Shocking.

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  10. DaMa Kopoú says:

    they’re not that bad..lol…i liked the one he gave jay leno

  11. wakeup says:

    “…..The origins of the video are not quite as ‘grass roots’ as is portrayed. The clip was produced by the team behind A Whisper to a Roar, a documentary about the “fight for democracy” all over the world, which was funded by Prince Moulay Hicham of Morocco. The “inspiration” behind the documentary was none other than Larry Diamond, a Council on Foreign Relations member. The Council on Foreign Relations is considered to be America’s “most influential foreign-policy think tank” and has deep connections with the U.S. State Department.

    Diamond has also worked closely with the National Endowment for Democracy (NED) and the U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID). The National Endowment for Democracy is considered to be the CIA’s “civilian arm” and has been deeply embroiled in innumerable instigated uprisings, attempted coups and acts of neo-colonial regime change since its creation in 1983, including the contrived 2004 “Orange Revolution” that brought US puppet Viktor Yushchenko to power in Ukraine.

    Larry Diamond also played an instrumental role in the Arab Spring under the auspices of the NED, a series of supposedly grass roots revolts that were in fact organized and managed by some of the most powerful western institutions on the planet.

    Diamond’s connection to the viral “I am a Ukrainian” video clearly suggests that the clip is a crude effort to convince an unthinking public that the Ukrainian uprising is completely organic and is not being instigated by western powers, when the opposite is in fact the case. The clip is reminiscent of the Kony 2012 scam, where a viral video utilized simplified propaganda and emotional manipulation to convince millions of people of the necessity of U.S. military involvement in Africa.

    In a Huffington Post interview, the creator of the video admits that he was in Ukraine “preparing a film on democracy” before the protests even started.

    Providing absolute confirmation that the video is a carefully thought out public relations stunt, the woman in the video was immediately invited to appear on CNN with Anderson Cooper in a segment that will be broadcast tonight. Cooper and CNN aggressively pushed the Kony 2012 hoax until it fell apart when one of the directors had a public breakdown. Cooper was also heavily involved in promoting the fake “Syria Danny” hoax that relied on staged footage to push for U.S. military intervention in Syria….” – Paul Joseph Watson

  12. barada says:

    NOT western countries?
    Chelsea Manning.
    Fugitive status of Snowden/Assange.

  13. Bill_Perdue says:

    Exactly. The EU, in this case the Deutsche Bundesbank, is trying to grab the Ukraine and it’s economy and suck it dry, as they’re doing in Greece and elsewhere in Europe.

    Merkel’s policy has been to grab political control, which is what this is all about, by forcing the elected government out and setting up a right wing government under Klitschko who’ll do what Merkel and the DB want.

    It’s not likely to work though, even if the right wing demonstrators get their way. The growth of the left in Russia, a reaction to economic disorders caused by Putin’s gangster capitalism, and the growth of left in the EU and in the Americas in reaction to Merkel and Obama’s austerity measures are both indicators that the global depression is generating a global response among working people. It’s probably not the response that Putin, OBama and Merkel expected and that’s because capitalist politicians are not very bright.

    Below – mass demonstrations against union busting and austerity in Russia, the US and Greece

  14. FLL says:

    Yes, you have a point. Hitler enjoyed the full support of the owners of Mercedes-Benz, Volkswagen and many other corporate magnates in building his war machine. In that instance, the fascist government did work hand in hand with corporate leadership. It depends on the country and the situation, but you raise a good point.

  15. jenius says:

    Mr. Bush, please go back to your crappy paintings.

  16. jared says:

    Please like this comment if you also read this entire thread. I’d love to know how many people are like me and follow the comment threads on A-blog, especially ones that are insightful and not overwhelmed with ad hominem attacks like this (although there were a few). (John, I honestly mean no disrespect, I’m legitimately curious.)

  17. dula says:

    My point was that the Ukraine is fucked if they follow the corrupted Russian oligarchs or if they allow themselves to be doormats for US/European neoliberal economic policy. Europe loves its austerity policies and is doing its best to follow the US corporate fascist agenda of removing social safety nets. Both are horrible for the 99%.

  18. Swami_Binkinanda says:

    So you are a fascist, unapologetically, you just don’t want to bear the burden of the name. Mussolini declared the merger of corporate, state, and religious power the purpose and here you have done the same.

    Because capitalism is amoral, the people who operate corporations must be amoral or they are failing to truly serve their purpose. There is a reason Adam Smith prefaced his work on capitalism with a treatise on moral sentiments, in which religious belief was meant to serve as a check on the amoral and biblically offensive practices of laissez faire capitalism, which in itself was simply the happy face put on the policy of mercantilism, where the company is simply the occupation wing of the military and both serve the crown.

  19. Swami_Binkinanda says:

    Dangerous fantasy. Germany was capitalist in 1914 and in 1933.

  20. Swami_Binkinanda says:


  21. Swami_Binkinanda says:

    Completely ignoring the fact that the 1950s overthrows of local governments, freely and fairly elected, was sponsored by the predecessor to British Petroleum, the Ango Iranian Oil Company. Ignorant all the way through by jingo. and i do mean jingo.

  22. Swami_Binkinanda says:

    This is what some people would like you to believe. The people who executed the policy were under no such illusions, and they have written their books already.
    The first Gulf War where Bush the First got the Kurds to rebel and left them hanging or the times before that? You need some schooling.

    I guess in a cynical sense it is easier to spread “democracy whiskey sexy” if the vast majority of the population have been killed, wounded, or live in fear of secret police (US trained Abu Ghraib types).

  23. Swami_Binkinanda says:

    Forgetting, of course, the CIA funding and assistance which put Saddam and his Iranian opponents in power after an initial failed coup attempt in which Saddam fled like a bunny. Kermit Roosevelt wrote a book about his efforts in that region.
    Like the Middle East, Ukraine is stuck between larger forces who are playing tug of war at the expense of the pawns on the field. Like the ME, there are petroleum roots to the tree of violence-Russia’s natural gas lines across Ukraine to Germany and others.
    Odd there no mention of the Nuland phone call, e.g. Fuck Europe.
    I hate to see people suffer but there is a lot of money in the world that enjoys it.

  24. Silver_Witch says:

    It is indeed a form of the Anti-Christ! That is certainly true…however what would we do without it eh?

  25. Silver_Witch says:

    Oh my goddess – you just made me spit water through my noise and at my desk at work!

  26. 2karmanot says:

    Mazel tov! :-)

  27. 2karmanot says:

    Yea But Disqus is the anti-Christ!

  28. 2karmanot says:

    Come on. Nobody buys Russian propaganda except perhaps you. Better get a new tinfoil hat and get some fresh air in that bunker.

  29. 2karmanot says:

    Poor Nicho could also be a quisling, or a Manchurian Candidate, or Babushka agent. #snark

  30. 2karmanot says:

    “Oligarchs and fascists have nothing to do with each other” ROTFL next!

  31. Silver_Witch says:

    It would appear that lies are all the President’s know how to do when hoping to start a war. Thank you for the article.

  32. Silver_Witch says:

    Yeah – your avatar has returned!

  33. 2karmanot says:

    Well said Mrs. Romney! Or is it Babs Bush? Your comedy routine is a bit dated though and its tacky underbelly of John Birch is criticized. Isn’t there a town hall somewhere you can troll?

  34. 2karmanot says:


  35. Moderator3 says:

    I’m sorry. I didn’t know SW was Jewish.

  36. 2karmanot says:


  37. 2karmanot says:

    Mod 3 was concerned you might get rabbis SW. :-)

  38. 2karmanot says:


  39. erichwwk says:

    Perhaps I review of the First Gulf War events are in order?

    In war, some facts less factual

    ‘Some US assertions from the last war on Iraq still appear dubious.-By Scott Peterson, Staff writer of The Christian Science Monitor / September 6, 2002″


  40. 2karmanot says:


  41. 2karmanot says:

    You tell em Henny Penny!

  42. 2karmanot says:

    You caboose has gone off the tracks. Nicho is not a hireling—oh please.

  43. Silver_Witch says:

    Thank you for revealing your true self. Corporations are MADE UP of people, they are NOT people. Each member of this society is entitled to a vote – not corporations though – they may not vote.

    Or perhaps you are like the man recently suggested that each citizen and corporation get a vote for every $1 in taxes it/they pay. Welcome to your brave new world my friend.

  44. Silver_Witch says:

    All of which (US has invested hundreds of billions in the restoration process, aside from the cost of the liberation war) are a complete and total waste of American money.

    As I am not responsible for proving anything to you and you appear to have a predetermined opinion about the greatness of America and America’s need to promote “capitalism and democracy” to all nations – I believe there is nothing more for us to say to each other.

    I would recommend more research – but you appear to rely on others to do that for you. This country is beginning to fail, and like other countries may, if it does not change its direction find the people raising up against it. The republicans are already beginning to be eaten by the base they have grown through hatred and scapegoating, I do not see the dems far behind.

    Peace be with you and the world you believe in.

  45. nicho says:

    Corporations are not “made up of people.” That is the corporatist lie. They are made up of pieces of paper — and they employ people.

  46. nicho says:

    Never said that. And one more personal attack, which the moderators apparently approve if. Maybe you’re the paid shill.

  47. nicho says:

    Really? With Phylius here accusing me of being a paid shill for Putin and posting nothing but personal attacks? And you scold Silver Witch. Pffft,.

  48. Alex says:

    I live in US now, but I grew up in Ukraine. While people on the Maidan cannot be painted with a single brush, the most active and violent groups there are definitely of fascist and ultra nationalistic tint. The Yanukovich and his government may be inept and corrupt, but god forbid us from any government installed by the Ukrainian nationalists…

  49. FLL says:

    Until I read your comment, I had not heard anyone describe joining the European Union as a move toward fascism or oligarchy. Am I misinterpreting your comment? If not, then do you also think that the decision on the part of Poland, Hungary, Czech Republic, etc. to distance themselves from Russia and join the European Union was a move toward fascism? I think the desire on the part of the former Soviet bloc countries to distance themselves from Russia and join the EU was understandable, don’t you? So why should it be different for Ukraine?

  50. Silver_Witch says:


  51. phylius1988 says:

    It seems that the concept of a political and economic alliance of a free nation with other free nations, such as the EU is, is unthinkable for you. Oligarchs and fascists have nothing to do with each other; on the other hand, communism and fascism are basically the same thing.

  52. phylius1988 says:

    Good job on exposing the lies!

  53. Badgerite says:

    In my own mind, I cannot really separate what is happening in Kiev from Putin. This whole protest started over his effort to undercut closer European economic ties with the Ukraine, did it not? That doesn’t sound to right wing, or neo nazi fascist to me.

  54. phylius1988 says:

    Yep. ‘Russia Today’ as it was known at the time of its inception, never even tried to hide its agenda. Our government was quite open and vocal about creating it specifically to spread pro-Kremlin propaganda in the West. It’s sad how many people are actually buying it.

  55. phylius1988 says:

    I’ve read the entire article and it has no proof for its claims other than things that can be construed as circumstantial evidence but can be explained in quite another light by a mind not intent on finding fault with the US because of their Americanophobia.

    Just because oil companies sponsored Bush doesn’t automatically imply that they were hoping for a war to get their hands on Iraqi oil or manipulated him into doing so. It IS a possible motive, but a motive itself is not proof of a crime.

    Big oil companies make contracts for oil extraction with countries all over the world. It doesn’t imply that the terms of said contracts are unfair and neither does the article ever prove they are in the case of Iraq. The country badly needs the money after years of chaos. Don’t forget the US has invested hundreds of billions in the restoration process, aside from the cost of the liberation war.

  56. Jerry Howe says:

    ‘Does anyone watch RT anymore ? I can barely stand to watch it today.
    Its fascist bent is obvious and is quite laughable as a news source. I get my news now from the BBC and France 24.
    Although I love Russia and Russians, I cannot take it seriously anymore as long as Putin is around.
    He is an example of a strong arm dictator like Stalin for the digital age.

  57. FLL says:

    Before you simply accept the opinion of Eric Draitser, as put forth in his article for CounterPunch (link here), you might want to gather at least a little preliminary information about “Pravy Sektor.” This is from a summary on Wikipedia:

    The members come from different regions of Ukraine and are both Ukrainophone and Russophone. The backbone of the organisation is formed by Russian-speaking football fans sharing nationalist views…Right Sector was one of the main actors of the January 2014 Hrushevskoho Street riots during Euromaidan. Unlike most Euromaidan supporters most of the Right Sector activists do not support Ukrainian EU Membership, since they consider the European Union (EU) to be an “oppressor of European nations”.

    There are a variety of different groups involved in the current protest. The vast majority of the protesters have, from the beginning, been in favor of joining the European Union. That’s the very reason the protests last year started in the first place. Pravy Sektor opposes closer ties with the EU and that is public knowledge. I will now quote Silver_Witch: “I do not know the truth in this matter – but I will now seek it out more diligently.” That’s all I’m asking of readers on Americablog, and I don’t think I’m asking too much.

  58. Moderator3 says:

    I can kiss you and make it better. X

  59. phylius1988 says:

    Corporations are made up of people, didn’t you know? …who have every right to form political alliances and influence other people’s opinions and votes, it’s called political competition and it’s perfectly fair play. If you don’t like other people getting involved in politics while you’re doing nothing, it’s nobody’s fault but your own.

    There is no such thing as a fair wage, it’s all demand and supply. You’re not entitled to a job. You MAY have something an employer wants in an employee and they may be willing to offer what you consider to be good pay, but they’re not obliged to, just like you’re not obliged to work for that particular employer and are free to find another job or start your own business. Corporations should have every right to pay people $1 an hour if there are people who are willing. The government has NO business telling people how to live their lives, including economically.

  60. Silver_Witch says:

    Bite Me is a personal attack? Well then…I have been scolded.

  61. Silver_Witch says:

    Actually I was quite aware of the First Gulf War and protested against it daily on the streets of California. I repeat – the US never went in to save the Kurds, The first gulf war was against Iraq in response to Iraq’s invasion and annexation of Kuwait (and American Oil CORPORATIONS which were in Kuwait). Once Kuwait was freed the then President Bush felt that the PEOPLE of Iraqi should rise up against Saddam and stop him themselves – so we backed out…after getting what really really went in for Kuwait oil.

    There was not rushing in to save the Kurds…you are trying again to use emotion to justify that which is not justifiable.

  62. Silver_Witch says:

    I do not believe that is at all what I said. A democracy is NOT based on capitalism. The two do not go hand-in-hand, especially when Corporations become the people in the democracy. They should not have a right to influence voting, candidates or contributing to the mechanics of a democracy.

    Without a voice we return to the times of the robber barons and those who hosed people down in the streets for seeking a fair wage for the work they produce. I work hard and contribute mightily to the corporation for which I work – unfortunately the bottom line is the only thing of importance to a Corporation – it does not see the individual or their contribution – we are just another cog in the wheel…great for Corporations – but they have no place int he democratic process…that my friend is for the People!!!

  63. phylius1988 says:

    The US went into the wars because Saddam was a dictator who was not only oppressing and murdering his ‘own’ people (who by no means belonged to him of course and had the right to be helped to get rid of the parasite) but was threatening other countries including Israel and the US, having had history of invading other countries. The WMD were a red line deal, but it’s largely irrelevant that none were found (doesnt mean none existed, and don’t forget Saddam had gassed 20,000 people with zarin previously).

    The US may have helped him gain power to counter the communist party as the bigger evil, but it did not help him become a dictator and removed him from power when he did so.

    “Try to save the grief you feel for the Kurds and ask yourself why the US did not go in when they were being gassed?

    So are you unaware of the first Guld war as well?

    “It is about power, money and war”

    First and foremost it’s about spreading democracy and justice, but yes, those things obviously come hand in hand.

  64. Moderator3 says:

    Please, no personal attacks.

  65. Moderator3 says:


  66. Silver_Witch says:

    With a caveat – here http://www.cnn.com/2013/03/19/opinion/iraq-war-oil-juhasz/

    The caveat – the United States is not the people of the US, but the Corporations and YES the corporations won big during that war – from Haliburton to Exxon….

    You see our government does not care about the people anymore – only the Corporations – you know corporations are people right?

  67. Silver_Witch says:

    That is NOT why the US went into the wars, our government could give a rats ass about Kurds or who was killing them. Just as they could care less if little old white men in Florida gun down children of color. You do know your belief of war is too simplified to apply here eh?

    You do know the US put Saddam in Iraqi and supported him with money and arms – yes? You do know that the US only went after him because he would not play the game anymore with US leaders – yes?

    Try to save the grief you feel for the Kurds and ask yourself why the US did not go in when they were being gassed? Because the US didn’t, doesn’t and probably will never care about people – anymore than the Russian Government does. It is about power, money and war. Plain and simply.

    P.S. Bite ME!

  68. phylius1988 says:

    What oil? In barrels, please.

    Also, do you know how much the US has spent on the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan? Something like a trillion bucks, last I heard. What is it that Iraq could possibly have that the US could even break even with if it robbed it clean?

  69. phylius1988 says:

    Fair enough, I’ll try to contain myself.

  70. Moderator3 says:

    Please no personal attacks.

  71. Moderator3 says:

    No personal attacks please.

  72. Bill_Perdue says:

    The video is propaganda of the crudest sort, the on question is whether it comes from the CIA or Merkel’s Bundesnachrichtendienst.

  73. phylius1988 says:

    Please tell me, how is someone who is more successful than you automatically a bad person? Why do you feel entitled to the yields of their success being distributed to you just because you achieved less? You are stupid and quite immoral.

  74. phylius1988 says:

    Capitalism and democracy imply each other. There is no freedom without freedom to freely exchange goods and make a profit, just like there can be no freedom when the government is restricting that. You fail at logic so badly I’m ashamed to even be talking to you.

  75. phylius1988 says:

    They gassed 20,000 Kurds with the gas and people like you have the nerve going around going HURRRP DURRRP SADDAM WAS COOL FOR BEING A DICTATOR AND STARTING WARS, U.S. BAD!

  76. phylius1988 says:

    Nice argumentum ad hominem, keep succeeding in embarassing yourself.

  77. Silver_Witch says:

    Ahhh no it was not!

  78. phylius1988 says:

    Yeah, I’m not not gonna do your homework for you on the Holodomor and the oppression of the Ukrainian language, culture and self-identity in 1653-1991, but here’s a beginner’s read of your favorite fascist dictatorship employing an online comment artmy.


  79. Silver_Witch says:

    That is exactly what I thought of when I saw this video – the Iraq call to saving babies – which was COMPLETELY and utterly debunked as a BS story…or like the WMD, or the stories in the 60’s our government promoted when they were hosing down people in the streets in the south during protests for equal rights….NONE of which were true.

  80. Bill_Perdue says:

    That’s exactly what the Clintons and Bushes say, which automatically makes it a lie.

  81. Bill_Perdue says:

    He or she has little else going for him or her .

  82. dula says:

    “We want to be free.”
    Then make sure you follow your own path and not rush into the arms of fascists/oligarchs from Russia OR Europe/US.

  83. Bill_Perdue says:

    Try to be political and to avoid personal attacks.

  84. phylius1988 says:

    So if a girl is beautiful it automatically discredits the message? Stupid. And btw, the U.S. invasion of Iraq was entirely justified.

  85. Bill_Perdue says:

    Capitalism and democracy are not compatible and don’t coexist. Political democracy without workers control of the economy is a sham.

  86. phylius1988 says:

    Let me sum it up for you: the Russian Empire and then the USSR has been enslaving Ukraine for centuries and it only got a nominal independence from in 1991. Russians still see Ukraine as ‘rightly ours’ still, so when Ukrainians first rebelled after Moscow’s puppet government forged the elections in 2004 and forced a revote the Russians were butthurt that a colony dares defy their rule. All of our government actions ever since have been to either bring Ukraine back under control or harm it as much as possible – if it’s not mine, let it belong to nobody is the thinking. And much of the pro-Russian anti-democracy drivel you will see online even in the English segment of the Internet will come from paid commentators which the Kremlin has been known to long employ.

  87. nicho says:

    Put a pretty girl in a video with a heart-tugging message and it will go viral. Burson Marsteller knows that and could turn that out in five minutes — just like they got the young woman to tell us about Iraqis pulling babies out of incubators (which never happened). It was the mainstay of the Bush Crime Family’s first invasion of Iraq.

  88. Silver_Witch says:

    Actually more of a babbler based on his very very brief history. Anyone under 100 posts is usually not of much interest or just a “guest” with a name here to post their hate or fear or bias.

  89. nicho says:

    Well provide more than personal attacks. Some facts, backed up by appropriate links, would be nice.

  90. phylius1988 says:

    It wouldn’t make the crusade against freedom that you’re on any less despicable even if you weren’t paid, which I still highly doubt.

  91. nicho says:

    Look at his posting history — 99 percent of his posts are personal attacks.

  92. Silver_Witch says:

    It is true – I know nothing of the recent history of the USSR and the surrounding area. It seems all large world powers, including the USA push their propaganda on its own people as well as the rest of the world – making it very difficult to take action on behalf of a people crying for help – who can say who the woman in the video is – or if she even is a part of the protest, if she is even aware of what the best action is. We have these same problems here in American.

  93. nicho says:

    I make 1,000 rubles a week — and all the borscht I can eat.

  94. phylius1988 says:

    And you clearly do not know anything of the recent century’s history as the USSR and its heir Russia have been pushing their propaganda on its own people as well as the rest of the world for decades.

  95. Silver_Witch says:

    You do know that capitalist is not a good thing, eh?

  96. Silver_Witch says:

    You clearly do not know Nicho then, if he is a “hireling” as you claim then he has been deeply undercover for many years just waiting for his opportunity to get paid to post. I think that you must agree there are always two sides to every story and too often others try to get Americans to join their fight under the guise of untruth. I do not know the truth in this matter – but I will not seek it out more diligently.

  97. phylius1988 says:

    All of the worlds democratic regimes are also capitalist. Back to the homework assignment with you, commie.

  98. phylius1988 says:

    His voice is that of the Russian state propaganda as he is likely a hireling.

  99. phylius1988 says:

    According to numerous polls, you are lying. The majority of Ukraine’s population supports the protestors and are neither nationalists nor violent. Please do tell, how much is the Russian government paying you for writing these? /A Russian.

  100. Silver_Witch says:

    Thank you for sharing another view point Nicho….I will have to do more research, it seems as if so often we side with the “wrong” side. It makes one fearful to have a voice….

  101. nicho says:

    Yeah, he’d probably be backing the fascists just like Obama is.

  102. nicho says:

    Recent months have seen regular protests by the Ukrainian political opposition and its supporters – protests ostensibly in response to Ukrainian President Yanukovich’s refusal to sign a trade agreement with the European Union that was seen by many political observers as the first step towards European integration. The protests remained largely peaceful until January 17th when protesters armed with clubs, helmets, and improvised bombs unleashed brutal violence on the police, storming government buildings, beating anyone suspected of pro-government sympathies, and generally wreaking havoc on the streets of Kiev. But who are these violent extremists and what is their ideology?

    The political formation is known as “Pravy Sektor” (Right Sector), which is essentially an umbrella organization for a number of ultra-nationalist (read fascist) right wing groups including supporters of the “Svoboda” (Freedom) Party, “Patriots of Ukraine”, “Ukrainian National Assembly – Ukrainian National Self Defense” (UNA-UNSO), and “Trizub”. All of these organizations share a common ideology that is vehemently anti-Russian, anti-immigrant, and anti-Jewish among other things. In addition they share a common reverence for the so called “Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists” led by Stepan Bandera, the infamous Nazi collaborators who actively fought against the Soviet Union and engaged in some of the worst atrocities committed by any side in World War II.


  103. Bill_Perdue says:

    He’s not a fascist, he’s an everyday. common, run of the mill capitalist and imperialist just like the leaders of England, the US, Germany and France.

  104. Um are you serious? Putin is a fascist and he is the one behind this.

  105. Indigo says:

    I immediately understood what you meant by calling Putin a bonapartist. That’s a little alarming because it moves my humanistic, allegorical analysis back an entire century. Rather than early 20th century reruns, we’d be facing the tedious game of thrones again. This time, however, there’s not enough crowned heads around to glamorize it. I suspect what’s really happening is we’re moving into Terra Incognita where our establishmentarian crisis management systems won’t work.

  106. nicho says:

    The protestors in Kiev are a collection of ultra-right, fascist groups, in collaboration with Nazi sympathizers. This is not far different than the fascists who are causing trouble in Greece. But have a nice day.

  107. Bill_Perdue says:

    “but a Euro-centric resolution is probably more desirable than Czar Putin’s effort to reclaim the borders of the USSR.” That’s like choosing between pancreatic cancer or Ebola, or between Democrats and Republicans. I pity the people of the Ukraine unless they develop left wing nationalist parties.

    I don’t think war is imminent. When the US and the zionists supported the Georgian Republic against Russia a few years ago the Russians idly swatted them with one paw and destroyed the Georgian military and US hopes. I don’t know what will happen here but the US and NATO are not ready for a war and Putin is past mid-stream in his effort to recreate Russian military power.

    The threat of war was greatly accelerated by the demise of the USSR. The Stalinists always lacked a spinal cord and were willing to accommodate on most issues because they were nationalists instead of internationalist. Putins imperial ambitions are a different matter altogether. He’s a bonapartist (*) and I expect in a few years we’ll see him crown himself in the The Assumption Cathedral in the Kremlin.

    (*) “Bonapartism was the adaptation of principles of the French Revolution to suit Napoleon’s imperial form of rule. Desires for public order and French national glory had combined to create a Caesarist coup d’etat for General Bonaparte on 18 Brumaire.” Wiki

  108. Indigo says:

    That’s a good analysis, consistent with what I’ve read. Predictably, the Ukrainians themselves aren’t going to have much voice in the outcome, but a Euro-centric resolution is probably more desirable than Czar Putin’s effort to reclaim the borders of the USSR.

    Alternatively, this could be the occasion for the Big One our Lords&Masters seem to be jonesing for. It was a truism of 20th century thinking that the 20th century really got started with the Great War setting the issues for that century. Maybe that’s what it will take to get the 21st up and running beyond this decade and a half of petty squabbles, a Big One that sweeps our certainties into a global conflict that redistributes industry and effort, commitment and entanglement, loyalties and values. There’s no telling what might come out of a blood bath that vast.

  109. Indigo says:

    Really! We’d be in there guns a-blazing while mopping up Syria and annexing Afghanistan.

  110. Anonymous says:

    Good thing Romney didn’t get his dirty boots inside the White House

  111. Bill_Perdue says:

    The fight is between the new Tsar, Putin, and the latest iteration of the Iron Chancellor, Merkel.

    The current regime is a right wing, dictatorial tool of the Russians and the proposed new regime is a right wing dictatorial tool of NATO and the US.

    “EU Grooming Klitschko to Lead Ukraine – The fight for Ukraine has now become a contest between the Russian president and the German chancellor. Putin won the first round. But Merkel and her fellow Europeans are grooming professional heavyweight boxer Vitali Klitschko to be their new strongman.

    By Thursday of the week before last, it was abundantly clear that any friendship between German Chancellor Angela Merkel and Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych was finished. They were gathered at a festive dinner in the former palace of the Grand Duke of Lithuania, with the city of Vilnius decked out for Christmas, together with leaders from the European Union and Eastern European countries. The truffled pastry hadn’t been served yet when the Ukrainian president launched into a rambling monologue about his country’s difficult relationship with Europe, on the one hand, and with Russia, on the other. But at some point Merkel interrupted Yanukovych and brusquely informed him that he might as well stop talking. “You’re not going to sign anyway,” she said bluntly.” From Der Spiegel Online, December 10, 2013 http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/eu-grooms-boxer-vitali-klitschko-to-lead-ukraine-opposition-a-938079.html

    Yanukovych and Klitschko are both right wing stooges in the fight for control of the Ukraine and neither have the slightest intention of making things better for the workers and farmers who live there. Yanukovych is owned by Putin and Klitschko is a tool of Merkel. To win, Ukrainian workers and farmers will have to abandon both Yanukovych and Klitschko and the foreign powers they represent and build their own workers and farmers government to create real independence for the long suffering Ukrainian people.

  112. Indigo says:

    Oh, good! An excuse for another war.

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