With polls heading south, GOP desperate to blame Dems for Tea Party shutdown

With polls heading south quickly, the publicly is increasingly blaming the Republican party for the federal government shutdown.

The Republicans, in turn, are increasingly blaming Democrats for the shutdown’s effects: everything from World War II vets not being able to visit the WWII memorial to cancer patients at NIH not being able to get their experimental drug trials.

The thing is, the shutdown was the Republicans’ idea.  So how can they now blame the effects of their vote on the Democrats?

Well, they don’t really have a choice.  Over the past four decades, the GOP has invested heavily in a Frankenstein monster electoral strategy, first with the religious right and then with the Tea Party.  Each time, the GOP recognized that there was a new and growing movement of strong but crazy activists, and the party tried to foster the crazy, and harness it.

But as always with monsters of your own creation, the monster eventually kills the village, then goes after your bride.


The only way to appease the extremists – this time, Tea Party extremists – who run the GOP, is to go to the extreme.  And the reason the GOP has no choice is the primaries.  It’s no secret that the GOP’s religious extremists, and now anti-government anarchists, decided to organize at the local level to exact maximal damage in the electoral process.  And they have.  The end effect is that Republicans risk not making it through their primaries if they don’t embrace the nuttiest elements of their party.

More from the Daily Beast:

On a Monday last month, Rep. Greg Walden, chairman of the National Republican Congressional Committee, met with some top GOP donors for lunch at Le Cirque on Lexington Avenue in Manhattan. The donors, a youngish collection of financial industry types and lawyers, had some questions for Walden, a mild-mannered lawmaker from eastern Oregon known for speaking his mind.

Why, they asked, did the GOP seem so in the thrall of its most extremist wing? The donors, banker types who occupy the upper reaches of Wall Street’s towers, couldn’t understand why the Republican Party—their party—seemed close to threatening the nation with a government shutdown, never mind a default if the debt ceiling isn’t raised later this month.

“Listen,” Walden said, according to several people present. “We have to do this because of the Tea Party. If we don’t, these guys are going to get primaried and they are going to lose their primary.”

The bigger problem for the GOP is that the rest of America isn’t the GOP base, they don’t hate government (and gays, and women, and Latinos, and blacks, and Jews, and immigrants), so the whole crazier-than-thou strategy, that’s working oh so well with the party’s base, is debasing the party with everyone else.

Polls have consistently shown that the public, while not exceedingly chipper about the Affordable Care Act (though the public, admittedly, has no idea what’s in health care reform, aka Obamacare), they also don’t want the government shut down over it.

Scott Clement at the Washington Post looks at two new polls, one from CBS and one from Fox (of all places), and both concur – the shutdown is trouble for the GOP.   Clement includes a neat chart in his story:


Image courtesy of Washington Post

So the GOP has embraced extremists because it can’t win at the local level without them, but the GOP also can’t win at the national level with them? So what do you do? You try to blame the other guy for the mess you created.

We’re seeing an increasing effort by Republican members of Congress who voted for the government shutdown – even those who were the actual architects of the shutdown – to then use the impacts of the shutdown, the harm caused by the shutdown, to blame Democrats for the shutdown itself.

This is rather ironic, as the Republicans were the ones saying all along that government shutdowns, and sequesters, would have no deleterious impact. Fox’s Sean Hannity recently said that he’s not feeling any impact from the shutdown, so it must not be a bad thing after all.

The problem for the GOP is that everyone from World War II vets making their last visit to the memorial in Washington, to cancer patients trying to start new experiment potentially-life-saving drug trials at NIH, are feeling an impact.

So what’s a party beholden to extremists to do? Blame the other guy.

That’s why you had the spectacle of GOP Congressman Randy Neugebauer of Texas berating a National Park Service ranger for manning the gates at the World War II memorial that had been shut down by Neugebauer’s own shutdown.  Fortunately for the ranger, and sadly for Neugebauer, the crowd in attendance wasn’t buying what he was selling – one guy in particular defended the ranger and gave Neugebauer an earful. Note in the video, below, how Neugebauer quickly shuffles away when confronted over his hypocrisy.

And now, incredibly, the Republicans are trying to blame Democratic Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid for the fact that children can’t get their cancer drugs at NIH because of the GOP shutdown.

The Republican strategy has been to take any shutdown-related effect that’s bothering the public a bit too much, and then triage it by attempting to pass a spending bill to let it continue without a shutdown.  First they tried this with the WWII Memorial, now they’re trying it with the NIH.  It’s a cute game.  By trying to cordon off every issue the public really cares about, they hope to leave the rest of the government, including Obamacare and every other Democratic program, shut down permanently.

The Democrats, wisely, aren’t falling for the GOP shuffle.  And so far, the public isn’t either.

CyberDisobedience on Substack | @aravosis | Facebook | Instagram | LinkedIn. John Aravosis is the Executive Editor of AMERICAblog, which he founded in 2004. He has a joint law degree (JD) and masters in Foreign Service from Georgetown; and has worked in the US Senate, World Bank, Children's Defense Fund, the United Nations Development Programme, and as a stringer for the Economist. He is a frequent TV pundit, having appeared on the O'Reilly Factor, Hardball, World News Tonight, Nightline, AM Joy & Reliable Sources, among others. John lives in Washington, DC. .

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105 Responses to “With polls heading south, GOP desperate to blame Dems for Tea Party shutdown”

  1. Neugebauer merely shows he is either as senile as the god Reagan or a stupid as the Schrub. They still think that they can get away with acting like the god and still be worshiped. No, one must actually believe one’s Reaganic lie to convince fools to believe one!

  2. Nixon started that nonsense for hicks and crackers.

  3. XRepublican says:

    BeccaM, You’re wrong, they have not been trained. training implies intelligence. They have been conditioned.

  4. XRepublican says:

    Neugebauer is just another ignorant wing nut congress creep from that cesspool of stupid, TEXAS. I hate these assholes so much I quit the Republican party after 30 years. The GOP needs to be put down like the rabid dog that it has become. Nothing left there now except Old White country club geezers that are held hostage buy a bunch of misogynistic, racist ignorant young earth goobers.

  5. Houndentenor says:

    If only liberals had 1/10th of the planning and organization that is assumed by the right.

  6. Houndentenor says:

    That would actually be a good explanation but it doesn’t fit with my interactions. I hear Ray Comfort type nonsense coming out of their mouths. It shows me that they don’t think critically and don’t want to. I’m sure they have great skills at using science and technology to build impressive things, but they aren’t actually scientists and don’t demand the level of evidence and reason that one would expect from someone with a master’s degree in a scientific field.

  7. goulo says:

    Yeah, I have often heard that a surprising number of engineers are creationists/fundamentalists because of being attracted to the “engineering appeal” of the Watchmaker Analogy, i.e. the notion that such a complex functioning thing as our universe must have had a creator/engineer….

  8. Houndentenor says:

    Lucky you. I meet a LOT of people who don’t believe in Evolution, especially friends of my parents who attend their Southern Baptist Church. Some of them are engineers who work for NASA and NASA contractors so well educated in the sciences.

  9. goulo says:

    It’s worth noting that “they” who keep getting the US into wars (and/or perpetuating those wars) are not just Republicans, alas.

  10. goulo says:

    Exactly; one needs to remember that the people we hang out with are not necessarily representative of the population as a whole.

    E.g. many diverse polls show roughly half the US population doesn’t believe in evolution, yet I’ve personally met very few US citizens who don’t believe in evolution.

    It is an interesting sociological phenomenon that in various respects people tend to cluster with like-minded people and unconsciously assume that most people are similar to their personal circle of acquaintances.

  11. maria says:

    Instead of that familiar circus theme “March of the Titans,” Fox would to alter it to “March of the Tight-Asses.”

  12. PrahaPartizan says:

    Nah, if any music is being played by the Teahadists it’s being played on the banjo.

  13. Abra says:

    Thank you for making Texans look intelligent, we appreciate that.

  14. silas1898 says:

    One-L Bachmann damn near had an orgasm on camera babbling about how happy the GOP is.

  15. silas1898 says:

    His district is a huge expanse of nothing, with that cultural center known as Lubbock, TX thrown in.
    I saw the Cadillac Ranch outside Amarillo once. The only interesting thing in that vast expanse of nothing.

  16. BillFromDover says:

    Especially from within their own ranks!

  17. BillFromDover says:

    Ya wanna watch their heads explode… simply ask them what the difference between a liberal and conservative poll is.

    Ala, Gallagher… and stand way back, especially at a Thanksgiving feast.

    Hint: when they all stop chewing is the time to attack the stuffing bowl as usually, with these pigs, there ain’t a 2nd chance!

  18. BillFromDover says:

    Didja ever wonder why this cesspool of a state wasn’t originally conceived and set up like a lobster trap?

  19. BillFromDover says:

    Did ya mean stinking ship, per chance?

  20. BillFromDover says:

    Seriously, this coward is from Texas… what more would ya expect from both of these cesspools?

  21. BillFromDover says:

    “Fox’s Sean Hannity recently said that he’s not feeling any impact from the shutdown, so it must not be a bad thing after all.”

    Sean has also said that he hasn’t once… ever seen a bagger racist sign.

    So therefore, in bagger land, there are no racist signs… right?

    I will leave it up to a second-grader to blow a hole through his argument, rather than a bagger caring a Fuck this ni**er in the White house sign!

  22. chris10858 says:

    I saw the video clip of Neugebauer berating that poor park ranger and thought to myself, I only hope this goes viral and comes back to haunt him cause he’s nothing more than a bully. Im glad to see today that he’s getting a lot of heat from it AND that VP Biden called the lady today and spoke with her. Once again, the Repubs are showing themselves to be hostile to women. (I bet Neugebauer would have never had the nerve to try to speak that way if the park ranger had been a man.)

  23. ComradeRutherford says:

    Only morons think this is the Dems fault. The GOP has said for years now that they want to overthrow the US government. They’ve said they are eager to shut down the government. Now they’ve done based on lies they made up themselves.

    TeaBirchers are anti-American terrorists, as is self evident.

  24. Mike in Atlanta says:

    Excellently put. I call it the Cassandra Complex: They are “cursed to know the future, but not to be believed.” This allows them to feel both righteous and oppressed without being either. Of course, true righteousness requires humility and selflessness, and actual oppression requires suffering or loss, things that your average Tea Partiers have no experience with nor interest about.

  25. pappyvet says:

    Boehner looks good in white but I’m crazy about the furniture

  26. pappyvet says:

    Very true.They either don’t get or don’t care that even the highest point on a sinking ship is going to get wet eventually.

  27. pappyvet says:

    They do not care what the American people think. They are so dead set on their own self righteous opinions that to disagree with them means that first you are not an American and second you are not a Christian. Their idea of the “good old days” is the turn of the last century when robber barons ran amok, blacks stayed off the sidewalks,and even the most ignorant white man had special rights over women.
    And of course,they went to church on Sundays.

  28. Houndentenor says:

    Stein narrated a “documentary” attacking Evolution. He’s a whore who’s happy to say things that are patently absurd for a paycheck. So if even he can’t be counted on to say whatever the party wants him to say, you know they’re in trouble.

  29. Houndentenor says:

    There are a lot of people being hurt by this, and none of them are Republican office holders. Well maybe a half dozen. The rest are more worried about a primary challenge from the right. They won’t even face a Democrat in the general election. My Congressman didn’t last fall.

  30. BeccaM says:

    As I remarked else where though, the GOPers (and their supporters in RW media) still can’t agree on whether the shutdown is good (in which case the Tea Baggers want credit) or bad (so as to blame the Dems).

    Interestingly, yesterday, the Fox News website was plastered wall to wall with their special propaganda name for it: “Slimdown.”

    Today? It’s back to “shutdown.”

  31. Houndentenor says:

    I just moved back. I voted last fall. In almost every race I had to vote for a Libertarian or Green in order to vote against the Teavangelical anti-gay bigot on the GOP line for the House and for state legislature. It was revolting. About 40% of voters voted against Ted Cruz. I did what I could. There’s just not much hope for Democrats in most of the state. If you have ideas for what to do to elect even a moderate Republican in this state please tell me. I’m all ears. I knew we were screwed when Kay Bailey Hutchison announced her retirement. She was conservative but not a hateful right wing sociopath like Cruz.

  32. Freday63 says:


  33. lynchie says:

    Could you tell me what he is guilty of?

  34. lynchie says:

    A truckload of condolences for you. Louie Gohmert words cannot describe his abject stupidity.

  35. Houndentenor says:

    But there’s only a shutdown because Democrats won’t give Republicans whatever they want. How dare they?

  36. Houndentenor says:

    I think this is especially true of people who are in the majority within their own limited circles. This is as true of conservatives in solid red as it is of liberals who live in very blue areas. Someone actually said to me once, “but Baptists don’t REALLY believe the world is only 6,000 years old.” Yeah, they really do. I may as well have said that in Sanskrit. It just didn’t compute. I have the same experience talking to my relatives in Texas. Anything that doesn’t agree with what everyone around them believes just doesn’t compute and therefore simply can’t be true.

  37. lynchie says:

    They have been pushing the troops into false fights since WWII. We have been involved in 133 incidents since the end of the world war.


    The money and lives that have been lost is appalling and all wrapped around protecting our interests. They don’t care about the troops, if they did they would bring them home and look after them. Not have them on food stamps and treated like second class citizens.

  38. KingCranky says:

    The defiantly stupid and proudly ignorant regressive reactionaries can never be mocked too often, or too harshly.

  39. KingCranky says:

    Nor an over-reliance on logical consistency.

  40. KingCranky says:

    An out-of-tune calliope, with missing keys and stuck pedals.

  41. benb says:

    The CDC is curtailing infection disease tracking, Texas has the highest rate in the nation of medically uninsured (25%) , the flu season is just starting, and, now, in Neugebauer’s own Lubbock, the first death of 2013 of West Nile has occured.

    Texas could be looking at a perfect storm. In the event of a severe pandemic, the ERs across the state will fill up, and Texans with even the best medical insurance won’t get to choose which hospital to be taken to in an emergency.

  42. karmanot says:

    I think a kazoo would do.

  43. karmanot says:

    Glad there is at least one liberal in Texas. Question: where have you all been for the past decade. Your state has become a third world nation.

  44. Dave of the Jungle says:

    Can you turn me on to whatever anti reality drug you’re using?

  45. UncleBucky says:

    Bullshit. I am an Illinois liberal. I see good things coming from Texas, culture, people, cuisine, etc. YOU VOTE. How many people WHO DO NOT LIKE DUMBASS LOUIE GOHMERT don’t vote, because they think it will not count, or it’s a lost cause, or they don’t care anymore?

    I lay it on their shoulders. I also lay it on your shoulders, since your district has not voted that bastard out of office yet.

    Git goin’!

  46. Whitewitch says:

    That is true my friend, however it is still fun to point it out to them and watch them turn funny colors.

  47. Monoceros Forth says:

    I’m not sure that will always work. If they’re determined lunatics they’ll just claim that Romney had the true majority but then ACORN / free phones / illegal immigrants corrupted the results.

  48. Whitewitch says:

    Ohhh you are right – he has been unusually silent – suspect he is very very scared.

  49. Whitewitch says:

    Just remind them of the “Romney Tsunami” – that is what I do and they pretty much hush up after that.

  50. Monoceros Forth says:

    True that. What’s really bizarre, though, is that this declaration of superiority, the assertion that the right-wingers’ ideals are really the true beliefs of the majority of Americans, coincides with a pose of martyrdom in the face of overwhelming odds. Somehow right-wingers are both the true voice of the nation speaking out against the leftist claptrap of a small pack of elitists and still small voices who must struggle to be heard amid the vast tide of evil that threatens to overwhelm them.

  51. Mighty says:

    Bullshit. I am a Texas liberal. I VOTE. I live in Dumbass Louie Gohmert’s district. There is only so much we can do. Do NOT lay this on our shoulders.

  52. BeccaM says:

    They’ve been trained to believe that any evidence that contradicts their preconceptions has to have been fabricated.

    Plus psychologically, nobody likes to believe their opinions are actually unpopular. It’s why, for example, despite the polls showing a majority of Americans now believe in marriage equality rights for gay and lesbian couples, the conservatives continue to insist that not just a majority, but a VAST majority of Americans are adamantly opposed to same-sex marriage. Even though it’s not true.

  53. Mighty says:

    When I point to the CBS poll on 72% disagreeing with shutdown to my conservative friends and family they dismiss it as a liberal poll.

  54. The_Fixer says:

    That would be fitting, a calliope is what I hear laying in my head anytime I am forced to watch them.

  55. blzlovr says:

    And the impeachment would go the same way it did for Clinton. How long did it take for you to apply for Obamacare? Oh, you don’t need it because you have socialized medicare and social security benefits?

  56. Naja pallida says:

    One could write a thesis on it. :)

  57. markofthebeasts says:

    It seems emblematic, actually. Doesn’t it? They boast about FOX “news” being the “most popular” in the nation, even as they express disdain for the “mainstream” media. I could make a long list of similar examples, but I have a thesis to write first.

  58. Indigo says:

    The thing is, the Republicans are adept at refusing accountability. I’m a bit concerned that by the time there’s a settlement, they’ll have finagled a way to get the Democrats to help sweep it all under the rug. The one thing we know already is that facts have very little persuasive power in the face of bigotry.

  59. Peter says:

    Irony can be pretty ironic these days.

  60. dcinsider says:

    Excellent article about the bisexual woman and gay guy legislators who are helping the GOP in Congress close down the government. John, this needs your touch I think. I would love to read your analysis.


  61. fletcher says:

    The poor fellow is merely parroting what he has viewed on Fox News between preening his feathers and demanding a cracker (not from Georgia). On Fox News, its labeled the Obama Shutdown. If this keeps up, Fox News will have to switch its theme music to something played on a calliope.

  62. Bill_Perdue says:

    The shutdown is another example of the polarized partisanship that makes it impossible for either party to govern.

    We’ll have to see how the real crisis – the fake debt crisis – is handled in a few days but without doubt Republicans will demand gutting Social Security and Medicare. Then Obama and the Democrats will double down on the Republican demands. Both parties have tried to gut entitlements, bust unions and otherwise impose more austerity measures for the 35 years and it’s produced the Long Depression and a deepening global depression. And a huge radicalization that will end up successfully challenging the rule of the rich.

    Both parties are enemies of working people and we’ll have to leave them in the dust to make any real progress. The reality is that the rich own the country, both parties and the government and that Congress and Obama are their lapdogs and enemies of working people. Those who make decisions on the basis of supporting Democrats against Republicans or vice versa don’t – can’t – make political that will promote the interests of workers.

  63. maria says:

    As a beginning, there is a petition out demanding that Neugebauer apologize to the Park Service Employee. It already has thousands of signatures. If I lived in his district I’d pass around a petition asking for his head on a platter (Cajun style).

  64. karmanot says:

    Pay attention to the pinhead!

  65. Naja pallida says:

    Cognitive dissonance has never been a problem for the Republicans.

  66. Naja pallida says:

    Supporting the troops to a Republican means giving them a place to sit within camera-view during a fund raising event. They conflate spending more money on more wars with supporting veterans, and their voters fall for it, including many of the veterans who suffer from their policies.

  67. Naja pallida says:

    I see Fox Noise has trotted out the same people who were predicting a landslide win for Romney to do their polling for them again.

    I don’t understand how anybody can blame the shut down on anyone except the many Republicans who have spent the last two years demanding a shut down. Republicans should be demanding credit, they got exactly what they wanted.

  68. No Walden, you need to grow some balls and tell the Teabaggers to fuck off.

  69. Monoceros Forth says:

    To me it’s just another instance of the sort of love and compassion that is all that a right-winger can manage, the love of and compassion for an unreal abstraction. THE TROOPS, as a vaguely defined mass, that’s the sort of thing a right-winger can love because, insulated as he is from the reality of war, THE TROOPS has no reality for him. It’s just a gauzy, composite fantasy of big guns and powerful missiles and helicopter gunships, no more real an image than you’d be from playing a Call of Duty game. But real soldiers with real injuries and real psychological scars? That’s messy reality intruding into the fantasy.

  70. PeteWa says:


  71. karmanot says:

    Great post!

  72. pappyvet says:

    Yes they are heading for that frozen ice flow that Dr. Frankenstein ended up on. The”fiend” he created never coming under his control. In the novel,the creature is never seen again and is so filled with grief by what has transpired that he vows to kill himself in the Arctic. This present creature created and fed by the republican party has no such intentions.

  73. Freday63 says:

    Great article John! This is why I keep coming back!

  74. pappyvet says:

    I am also a vet and a shrapnel carrier,is there any way to help that family?

  75. Freday63 says:

    I find it curious how quiet Marco Rubio has been through this shut down…

  76. The_Fixer says:

    I’ve always been maddened by the “Support the Troops” thing. To me, it seems to mean little more than pasting a ribbon on your car and saying “Thank you for your service” if you’re a Republican.

    There wasn’t much support for the troops during the Iraq war when they needed armor on Hum-Vees. Not much support for the troops when they found mold growing in the Walter Reed Army Hospital. And even less for the troops who have PTSD and can’t reasonably function.

    To me, it’s a big PR game for them. Wanna support the troops? Do more than past a ribbon on your SUV.

  77. kladinvt says:

    I have a disabled Iraq war veteran, with 4 children, in my grad program and because of the republiCON shutdown, he is not receiving his disability check, which he and his family desperately need.

    This must be what all those republiCONS meant by “Support the Troops”!

  78. judybrowni says:

    Unfortunately, most of those districts have been gerrymandered so by the Republicans that it’s an impossibility for them to turn Democratic.

    They’ve been carved up so that there are few Democratic voters in that district.

    We will continue to be governed by a minority of hicks for some time.

  79. markofthebeasts says:

    I find their ability to brag about doing it while denying it’s them doing it to be… … typical of republicans.

  80. GreenEagle says:

    The strategy of the Republicans from the very beginning was to cause as much damage as they could, and then blame it on the Democrats. With the Republican-compliant nature of the mainstream press, it was reasonable of them to think that this strategy would work, and the fact that 35% of Americans actually do blame the Democrats for something caused 100% by Republicans indicates that it may very well be working. They have a year until the next election to spend their hundreds of millions of dollars of Koch Brothers and Rove money to swing the polls a few more points in their direction, which is all it will take for them to take control of the Senate and begin the inevitable removal from office of Obama and Biden.

    At that point, the hapless Boehner will be pushed off the cliff, and you will see the most vicious fight in the history of the country to be the person who will replace him, and then become President without a single vote being cast in his favor.

    And that will be the end of the United States.

  81. Monoceros Forth says:

    I hope it’s a coral snake. It would add to the irony, because coral snake antivenin is no longer produced in this country because it isn’t profitable. ( http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/alex-hern/2012/10/us-runs-out-coral-snake-anti-venom )

  82. The_Fixer says:

    “Now run off to your Bible church and speak in tongues or handle snakes or something.”

    Ha! That one made me laugh!

  83. Monoceros Forth says:

    I’m worried too. It’s already getting very bad. Look at what’s going on: very near to half of the legislators in the country are holding the country hostage because they demand the effective nullification of a law that, good or bad, was passed according to all the accepted rules of the legislative process. And this utter lawlessness, this flagrant contempt for the orderly working of representative government, is not as it should be being howled down and condemned from every rooftop!

  84. FLL says:

    You are one of the reasons why folks down here in South Florida consider Florida two different states. But the demographics are on our side in South Florida and Orlando. You can kiss Marco Rubio buh-bye, Thomas in Jacksonville. Now run along to your Bible church and speak in tongues or handle snakes or something.

  85. FLL says:

    Of course the Republican can’t survive their own Republican primaries unless they adopt wingnut platforms. But what happens in these congressional districts in the general election? It’s not 2010 anymore. I have a feeling that at least some of these districts will flip from Republican to Democratic.

  86. The_Fixer says:

    I hear ya.

    The only thing that gives me any kind of hope is the knowledge that the pendulum usually swings back the other way, from one extreme to the other when it comes to American public opinion.

    Of course it’s increasingly difficult to get the pendulum to swing back the other way with so much big-money and corporate influence playing such a large part in politics these days.

    Which makes me worry about what kind of cataclysmic event will finally make things change enough to allow the pendulum to swing back the other way?

  87. UncleBucky says:

    Oh, you’re silly.

  88. ArthurH says:

    Not Tea Party. The TP. And right now they’re TPing the trees in front of our homes.

  89. UncleBucky says:

    The GOP/TPer party is why we can’t have nice things anymore. ;o)

  90. UncleBucky says:

    Texas Dems/Liberals/Progressives…

    The onus is on you. You don’t like the way Texas bigots get into office? GOTV.

  91. ArthurH says:

    You know the Republicans are in trouble when three of the most conservative newspapers in the country (Wall Street Journal, New York Post and Chicago Tribune) run editorials saying the shutdown is a bad idea and urge passage of a clean budget bill, and the Tea Party people accuse the papers of being leftist bird cage liners. On what planet have they been living? Any party so willing to kill off allies and supporters for not being 100% pure will soon be down to two members rolling in combat toward the edge of a cliff.

  92. The_Fixer says:

    Congressman Randy Neugebauer of Texas is pretty ballsy for bullying that Park Service employee. This video needs to be saved and brought out when he’s up for re-election. It could be used to paint him in a brutally honest light. Like all bullies, when faced with formidable opposition, he runs away.

    A complete ass, and he deserves to be shamed and to lose his seat.

  93. Monoceros Forth says:

    I want to be optimistic and be assured that this stunt is going to hurt the GOP more than it will hurt the rest of the country but…I just don’t know. The American political landscape is just getting more and more unhinged. Time and time again my conjectures about the outcomes of political events have gone wrong. I never thought, for example, that the Republicans would be able to pretend any longer that they’re fiscally responsible, not after Bush the Small, but they are pretending, worse than ever, and they’re taken seriously! Hell, I never though Lil’ Bush stood a chance of being elected in the first place, not with all the skeletons in his closet, but miraculously his faults became almost invisible. Logic and probability don’t seem to apply any more. Irrational men with insane are regarded as serious thinkers.

    I don’t know what’s going to happen any more. I can be reasonably certain it’s not going to be pretty and it’s not going to end well.

  94. Monoceros Forth says:

    What “TEA party”? There’s no party there, no organized movement, just a drab assortment of GOP lunatics.

  95. The_Fixer says:

    Yeah, but he was OK in “Ferris Beuhler’s Day Off”. Of course, he only had a few lines….

  96. The_Fixer says:

    Your assertion that the Democrats shut down the government is indeed laughable. Rather than just say that, you want to give us some supporting evidence?

    One thing that this shutdown will bring is the sunset for the TEA party. They’ve shown themselves to be impractical extremists, in the eyes of the American public.

    I have problems with Obama, but TREASON! is not one of them. Remember, the bulk of the stuff he has been allowed to get away with was started by Bush II and with the full endorsement of the Republican party, and in some cases, the TEA party.

    Be realistic. As your comment stands, it’s laughable and deservedly so.

  97. judybrowni says:

    Stein’s father was a Nixon muckymuck, and Stein was welcomed into wingnut White House welfare the moment he stepped out of college.

    But he’s from the elite Republican ranks, who created this vulgar monster they can no longer control.

    Imagine that, your monster turned on you, Ben.

  98. kmcdevitt says:


  99. jomicur says:

    No less a Republican “thinker” than Ben Stein was on the Craig Ferguson show a couple of nights ago, talking about the shutdown. He said point blank that the GOP was responsible for this, blamed the Tea Party branch for hurting the party, and made the prediction that the shutdown will hurt them in next year’s elections. I’ve never thought much of Stein as a political strategist (or as an entertainer or as much of anything else), but I sure as hell hope he’s right about this one.

  100. kmcdevitt says:


  101. johnny GOP says:

    exactly why Romney was blown out by Obama..the public thinks the GOP is crazy…..treason charges..birthers…it goes on and on…Hillary will beat anyone worst than Obama did…GOP killing itself

  102. cole3244 says:

    i would be optimistic except i realize how angry, hateful, and bigoted the gop supporters are and their negative emotions outweigh any chance of common sense and reason.

  103. Thomas in Jacksonville says:

    It was the democrats that shut down the government, not the Republicans. If it was the TEA party that was in power in the house and not the Republicans then impeachment proceedings would have started a long time ago against Obama for TREASON!

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