Rick Warren’s anti-gay evil twin Louie Giglio to give inauguration benediction

UPDATE: Louie Giglio is gone. The Presidential Inaugural Committee is criticizing him.  And he’s now busy criticizing the gays’ “agenda.”  Troll.  Good riddance.


Here we go again. If you hated Rick Warren giving the invocation at the first Obama inaugural, then you’re gonna love Pastor Louie Giglio being selected to give the benediction this time around.  (SPOILER ALERT: He thinks being gay is a “malfunction.”)

You might recall that then President-elect Obama invited virulently anti-gay religious right pastor Rick Warren to give the invocation at the swearing-in ceremony during the inauguration in January of 2009.  The pick of Warren caused a huge brouhaha as gays had just watched marriage ripped away from them in California thanks to the religious right and the Mormons, and thanks to one man in particular who went out of his way to help the anti-gay bigots, Rick Warren.

Fast forward to January of 2013 and the second Obama inaugural.  You’d think that once-burned the Obama inaugural team would be twice shy about picking an anti-gay bigot for the swearing-in ceremony.  Well, meet Rick Warren-lite, Pastor Louie Giglio.  Here a few of Pastor Louie Giglio’s thoughts about gay people, via Andy Towle at Towleroad:

Pastor Louie Giglio

Pastor Louie Giglio. Photo coursey of Jesario.

Gays are going to Hell:

(47:40) First Corinthians, Chapter 6. In verses nine and 10, it talks about the things that prevent people from entering the Kingdom of God. It talks about all kinds of immoral behavior. And right in the midst of that passage, right in the middle of that verse it says “and those who are homosexual.” It’s clear.

Gay people can become straight through Christianity:

(40:25) As the church of Jesus Christ, we cannot sit on the sidelines, we cannot sit back inside our churches, but we must reach out and we must aggressively move toward the homosexual community because we have a message and we’ve got something to say… our message is we know Jesus Christ and Jesus Christ is powerful enough to do anything and to do everything. And the only way out of a homosexual lifestyle, the only way out of a relationship that has been engrained over years of time, is through the healing power of Jesus.

(43:16) We’ve got to say the homosexuals, the same thing that I say to you and that you would say to me… it’s not easy to change, but it is possible to change.

More Louie Giglio brilliance from ThinkProgress:

(31:45) We must lovingly but firmly respond to the aggressive agenda of not all, but of many in the homosexual community. … Underneath this issue is a very powerful and aggressive moment. That movement is not a benevolent movement, it is a movement to seize by any means necessary the feeling and the mood of the day, to the point where the homosexual lifestyle becomes accepted as a norm in our society and is given full standing as any other lifestyle, as it relates to family.

Gays are sinner:

 Men, women, I can’t say anything other to you tonight than this, that if you look at the counsel of the word of God, Old Testament, New Testament, you come quickly to the conclusion that homosexuality is not an alternate lifestyle… homosexuality is not just a sexual preference homosexuality is not gay, but homosexuality is sin. It is sin in the eyes of God, and it is sin according to the word of God. You come to only one conclusion: homosexuality is less than God’s best for his creation. It is less than God’s best for us and everything in our lives that is less than God’s best for us and his plan for us and his design for us, is sin. That’s God’s voice. If you want to hear God’s voice, that is his voice to this issue of homosexuality. It is not ambiguous and unclear. It is very clear.

Gays are like alcoholics.

 I would refer you maybe just to the article “Born gay?” by Joe Dallas, who is the president of a ministry that helps with homosexuals in “recovery.” It was found in Christianity Today in June of 1992. It really unfolds for us that the evidence that they say is there, that the media wants to tell us is there really isn’t there at all. But I want to tell you this tonight. Even if it was there… How do you respond to that? How do you respond to the news reports that we’re hearing in the last few months that there is a genetic tendency to be an over-eater and it’s been supposedly proved by the scientists? That there is a genetic tendency to addictive behavior. Alcoholics by and large have a genetic tendency to addictive behavior. I predict in our lifetimes and not a very long period of time from now, scientists and geneticists will have found a way to prove a gene theory for every malfunction in sinful society. And do you know why? We talked about it the very first week—because we do not want responsibility for our choices.

Louie Giglio suggested that being gay is a “malfunction.”  Nice.

What do you do with this?  It’s great that the inaugural folks picked an openly-gay Latino poet to read a poem at the inauguration.  And it really is great.  But that doesn’t mean we can overlook the other guy who hates our living guts, and spews bigotry against us.  I think what’s particularly bad (even galling) about this pick is that the people putting together the inauguration surely knew about what happened last time with Rick Warren.  How could it not have been their number one priority to make sure they didn’t pick another anti-gay bigot as the religious figure at the inaugural?  Yet here he is.

I even joked with a Democratic friend in DC this morning about whether they were going to pick another Rick Warren, ha ha.

The only possible save here is that the comments are from the mid-1990s (shades of Chuck Hagel come to mind).  If Louie Giglio wants to recant his bigoted comments, then I’m fine with him giving the benediction.

The problem is, to quote Ayn Rand, when her character was asked by some guy something to the effect of:

“God damn it, why won’t you tell me what you think of me?”

And she responds:
“But I don’t think of you.”
Whoever was in charge of finding the religious guy should have had their number one priority be vetting the guy for anti-gay stuff.  That was painfully obvious after what happened with Rick Warren four years ago.
It’s hurtful to have your own party not think of you when they obviously should think of you.  And picking the gay poet is great.  But when they picked the preacher, they stopped thinking of us.  And that shows that, at least whoever picked the preacher, doesn’t think of us nearly as much as they should.  Especially given what happened last time.
This is really pretty egregious.  And no amount of liberal counterweight would outweigh a racist or an anti-semite being invited on the podium.  It’s just not enough that they made some good picks too.  This shouldn’t have happened again.  It means some people at least still haven’t learned the lesson.  And that hurts.
Maybe Pasto Giglio will have a scheduling conflict.

CyberDisobedience on Substack | @aravosis | Facebook | Instagram | LinkedIn. John Aravosis is the Executive Editor of AMERICAblog, which he founded in 2004. He has a joint law degree (JD) and masters in Foreign Service from Georgetown; and has worked in the US Senate, World Bank, Children's Defense Fund, the United Nations Development Programme, and as a stringer for the Economist. He is a frequent TV pundit, having appeared on the O'Reilly Factor, Hardball, World News Tonight, Nightline, AM Joy & Reliable Sources, among others. John lives in Washington, DC. .

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106 Responses to “Rick Warren’s anti-gay evil twin Louie Giglio to give inauguration benediction”

  1. tbbodie says:

    The overwhelming ignorance of the above article just makes me shake my head…there are no words to articulate my emotions. God have mercy on this country is all I can say.

  2. Cassandra says:

    It is very nice to be able to express one’s opinion on the internet.

  3. karmanot says:

    Obama is sexually crazed? What’sa’matta FLL of it, scared of black men. It is you who are high comedy.

  4. karmanot says:

    “I was born and raised in Chicago,” You have our sympathies.

  5. karmanot says:

    True, what’s left to like?

  6. Bill_Perdue says:

    FDR was a reformist president who, after soiling pants thinking about the likelihood

    of revolution, made few concessions. The growth of the unions was not one of them. Unions exploded and he attempted to contain the explosion but he couldn’t. Social Security, which rightists like Obama and Boehner are trying to gut, was a reform The give us reforms and then they take them away. So much for reformism.

    You can call me whatever you want, traitor. You and your sellout politics are unimportant.

    And Sam Adams was right.

  7. karmanot says:


  8. karmanot says:

    Speaking of crashing bores. “how’s your track record for third-party presidential candidates over the past 236 years?” Your threadbare cocktail line, Fll of It?

  9. karmanot says:

    ‘Bingo’, SC

  10. karmanot says:

    I thought ‘arsenokoitai’ meant snuggy bear friends.

  11. karmanot says:

    According to Revelations, he did talk into the drape of his toga.

  12. karmanot says:

    Take your pills and get some rest ‘sunshine.’

  13. Badgerite says:

    Oh God, (name dropper alert), here we go again. One more time – They are free under our Constitution ( otherwise known as the agreement by which we live together in peace and progress) to feel how they want and worship God as they chose BUT the standard by which the State is allowed to take action and discriminate in law against people is ‘legitimate governmental interest’, ie harm to society. “The Bible says” does not qualify. That would be establishing your religion as a state religion, which they would probably be fine with but it does not lead to good things. ( see Holy Roman Empire and attendant corruption, death and destruction). The issue is not what causes ‘gayness’. The issue is, where is the harm to society. Try as they might, they cannot really show that because THERE ISN’T ANY. It is actually good for society as it leads to more people ( about 10% of society some estimate ) leading happier and more productive lives. That is contributing their talents to society. And those talents can be prodigious (see Allan Turing, Samuel Barber, Harvey Milk and many, many more too numerous to name here). What it comes down to is their belief that we are “God’s Chosen Ones” and by legally requiring that LGBT be treated fully as members of our society we are violating our “Covenant” with God because ‘the Bible says’ and thereby bringing his wrath down upon us. One’s belief that the Bible is the “word of God” is a religious belief. They can use churches to preach that if they want but they are not allowed to use the POWERS of the State to enforce their religious beliefs on the rest of us. Truth be told you could actually point to actual harm to society by obesity, alcoholism, smoking, gambling, etc. Not so ‘gayness’. So they must fall back on the Bible. Because there isn’t anything else. There is no harm. So they point to weather systems and the like, which are related to human activity but certainly not human sexual activity. There is, however, a lot of societal harm caused by homophobic bigotry. And you don’t have to look very far to find it. Murders, beatings, suicides. discrimination in all forms. Most all people have an internal moral sense, and this guys attitudes offend mine. But it would also offend my moral sense to interfere in his right to practice his religious beliefs IN HIS CHURCH. Which is where phrases such as ‘the Bible says’ belong.

  14. FLL says:

    Yes, I know, you live in Nevada and you vote for “None of the above.” You think there’s no point in voting, and you’ve said so before, so don’t lie about it. In one past comment, you said that no elections have made any difference since the late 19th century. I guess that would include FDR and the New Deal. You get to trot out that BS? Fine. I get to call you a jackass—you and your “None-of-the-above” admirers on this board who are so timid that they can only hit the “Vote down” button, but can’t think of an argument.

  15. BeccaM says:

    Your pastor thinks that I — and millions of other Americans — are a mistake, a malfunction, and that if we do not ‘fix’ ourselves through psychological malpractice, we will burn in Hell forever after we die.

    Your pastor does not love me. The sky-god you believe made me clearly must not love me either, not if he’d condemn me to suffer unimaginable torture forever for making me as I am.

  16. HolyMoly says:

    Not only his sticking to the Hagel nomination…but some progressives who oppose Hagel yet find some sort of justification to support Obama (and Biden), when it’s becoming my opinion more and more that they have very similar, un-“evolved” views on gay rights — ostensibly only because he’s wearing the “D” jersey. (I don’t mean to imply that you are one of them). In the few instances that Obama has done the right thing, I believe he’s done it merely as a political calculation…I don’t think it’s any coincidence that he ended DADT early enough to gain early support from the (wealthy) gay community to kick off the campaign season. And if I’m not mistaken his expressed support for same-sex marriage came at a time when the Republican primaries were just about wrapped up and it’s time to focus on him vs. Romney.

    Funny thing is, Darth Cheney supports gay marriage, and for him I don’t think it’s a political calculation. I think he sincerely believes it. Don’t worry…I’m not developing a soft side for him. He still should be brought to trial for the many, many horrible things that occurred under his watch.

  17. sonofloud says:

    When Obama’s black Harvard pal Henry Louis
    Gates Jr. felt disrespected by the police, Obama stopped the business of
    the entire country to intervene yet he has no qualms about
    disrespecting every gay person in the country with his embrace of yet
    another homophobic preacher at his Inauguration.

  18. matlock says:

    Funny how most of the analyses you’ve read confirmed your biases that “arsenokoitai” doesn’t refer to homosexuals. If you follow the actual debate and look at the consensus among biblical scholars and theologians you would see that this passage refers back to Leviticus 18:22 and 20:13 where the passage condemns a man (arseno) for lying with (koitai) another man (arseno). So, arsenokoitai…big mystery…here it comes…is literally a man-lier or one who lies down with other men. This translation, taken from the Septuagint, is the closest approximation of the meaning of arsenokoitai and very well explains the use of homosexual as a correlate. Needless to say, the meaning tracks very closely the many unambiguous instances of homosexuality found throughout the Old Testament and the rest of the bible.

    Sorry you have problems with the Bible, Paul, and the ole’ “bachelor carpenter” from Nazareth… However, if you would read the actual words of Jesus and take the entirety of the word of God into account, you would see that your inflammatory accusations of “bigotry” and “intolerance” are unfounded, being directed unjustifiably against a God who loves you and a pastor who genuinely loves and serves the community he lives in. I ought to know; I attend his church.

  19. DesertSun59 says:

    Anyone who equates ‘sin’ with genetics is a moron and not part of the conversation. You see, ‘sin’ is a made up word used by religious people to denounce anyone who doesn’t adhere to their tenets. Since the tenets of a religion are specific to a particular mythology, none of it is genetic. Thus, anyone who discusses genetics = sin is an bona fide moron. I will ignore this man since he isn’t worth my time. I have an education. He clearly does NOT.

  20. ronbo says:

    Given a third term, Obama might choose Fred Phelps and his clan for the event.

  21. Bill_Perdue says:

    Not at all.

    This is a banana republic and elections are rigged. beginning with the Electoral College and ending with local and state laws to keep left parties off the ballot and deny us news coverage.

    And stop lying. I live in Nevada and can vote for

  22. Bill_Perdue says:

    See mine.

  23. Bill_Perdue says:

    People who advocated voting for Obama and the Democrats or Romney and the Republicans voted for a mad dog warmonger whose policies murder civilians and waste the lives of GIs from Morocco to Indonesia. Which of them did you vote for.

    People who advocated voting for Obama and the Democrats or Romney and the Republicans voted for either an ‘evolved’ bigot or a non-evolved bigot. Which bigot do you prefer?

    People who advocated voting for Obama and the Democrats or Romney and the Republicans voted for scabs and union busters who want to dismantle Medicare/Medicaid and Social Security, who approved of mass foreclosures and who want to impose Greek style austerity. Which of these corporate thugs caught your fancy.

    “If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.” Sam Adams, 08 01 1776

  24. FLL says:

    Not voting (which is what you do) is betrayal.

  25. FLL says:

    See my reply above.

  26. Bill_Perdue says:

    “Bill Clinton has always had the good sense to avoid any anti-gay bigotry in his pursuit of corporate fans. “That’s not true at all.

    Bill Clinton, the notorious bigot who rammed through DOMA, signed it and then boasted about it on redneck radio stations in 1996 gave a speech at the Manchester Hyatt in San Diego to the International Franchise Association tomorrow, February 15 2008, violating the boycott organized by opponents of Prop 8 and crossing the picket lines organized by the California Labor Federation and the San Diego Labor Council.

    He’s a scab and a bigot, however well paid.

  27. FLL says:

    Well things just wouldn’t be complete without you, would they, Perdue? And tell me, how’s your track record for third-party presidential candidates over the past 236 years? Do you think you might want to move to Italy, where the multi-party system and revolving-door government coalitions are more to your liking? Italy’s “system” is not admired by their neighbors. You remember the joke, I’m sure: “Hell is a place where the English are the cooks, the French are the auto mechanics, etc… and the Italians run the government.” When we review the third-party vote for the 2012 presidential race, it’s clear that you’re not really a help to the Republicans. You’re just a crashing bore.

  28. FunMe says:

    And Liberals will end up hating him with a passion.

    Who’s left to like him?

  29. Bill_Perdue says:

    Did you imagine that this was an accident, that they somehow forgot to check to see if a typical rightwing evangelical christer was a bigot?

  30. Bill_Perdue says:

    Voting for bigots, mad dog warmongers and union busters is heavy on betrayal.

  31. Bill_Perdue says:

    Democrats are Republicans in drag. Period. Full Stop.We won’t advance until we leave them in the dust.

  32. Bill_Perdue says:

    A note for all the Obama supporters during the recent election – this is not what we deserve but it is what we’re going to get because of those who enabled Obama and the Democrats ongoing bigotry, union busting and warmongering.

    This is not an isolated incident. Another bigot heading up a rally or Inaugural for Obama is nothing new. It started in the summer of 2008 in the South with a string of cultist revival meetings disguised as Obama rallies featuring pig-bigot Donnie McClurkin and ended in the weeks before the election with
    Obama himself galvanizing the bigot vote to defeat marriage equality with ‘gawd’s in the mix’ at pig-bigot Rick Warrens bigotfest and on MTV. The contradiction between Obama’s promises and his bigotry which defeated marriage equality in California help recreate and invigorate the GLBT movement.


    Democrats and Republicans are right wing parties that use the superstition and ignorance promoted by the cults to advance their right wing agenda. This incident is minor compared to the Democrats decades long refusal to pass ENDA or a CRA and their 18 year history of promoting discrimination by refusing to repeal Democrat bill Clinton’s DOMA.

    Democrats are Republicans in drag. Period. Full Stop.We won’t advance until we leave them in the dust.

  33. BeccaM says:

    Thanks, SC.

  34. FLL says:

    Somehow, someone should get that suggestion to the gay Latino poet. Accept the invitation and pull a surprise. (I hope someone does.) Remember Stephen Colbert’s surprise roast of George W. Bush at the 2006 White House Correspondents’ Association Dinner?

  35. FLL says:

    I was born and raised in Chicago, but moved to Fort Lauderdale in 1997. Only current Chicagoans who are fully engaged would know, and as I understand, many do.

  36. Skeptical Cicada says:

    Are you suggesting he could be credibly outed? After this? Bring it on.

  37. FLL says:

    Obama wants those $125,000 speaking/entertainment engagements after he’s out of office, just like Bill Clinton gets. Downthread, I was too vague and polite when I suggested that Obama’s future entertainment engagements should include some in the Andersonville neighborhood of Chicago (e.g., bathhouses), just for old times’ sake. Perhaps I shouldn’t be so indirect.

  38. Skeptical Cicada says:

    What would the NRA do? What would AIPAC do? There’s your answer. Make them afraid.

    Hit him between the eyes with everything we’ve got, or they’ll do it again and again and again, just like 2009. No, NEVER, EVER waste a second on third-party nonsense. It’s a total dead end.

    If you want a pro-gay DOJ brief in the Prop. 8 case, make sure they’re reminded why they need to be afraid to cross us.

    P.S. Thanks for the kind words. I don’t really want credit. I just want the sycophants completely de-legitimated.

  39. Skeptical Cicada says:

    Close but not exactly. The truth was even worse. I was there on the mall live. Robinson delivered beautiful remarks…which no one on TV ever heard because Robinson was “mistakenly” told to begin before the live TV feed. The live feed “mistakenly” began the second Robinson left the stage. Fucking pigs.

  40. FLL says:

    Yes, you were right. I was right to say it at the beginning of March, 2012, when 22 U.S. senators pushed Obama, but you said it long before then, and you deserve credit for it. So what’s the tried and true answer? Hit Obama with everything you’ve got until he caves. If you tell me the answer is voting for a third-party presidential candidate (in 2012 or 2016), I’ll be disappointed, but I think your style has always been more pragmatic than that.

  41. Skeptical Cicada says:

    You’re assuming it was an accident. With Obama’s homophobia, I presume intent until he proves otherwise. Did you like how the news of the gay poet came out right before the news of the raving anti-gay bigot?

  42. Skeptical Cicada says:

    You think this was an accident? Cute how the news about the gay poet comes out just a little while before the news about the raving, anti-gay bigot. With Obama’s homophobia, presume intent until he proves otherwise.

  43. Skeptical Cicada says:

    Remember the 2009 response on Rick Warren? “Well, we gave you that little gay marching band in the parade, so get over it, fags!”

  44. Skeptical Cicada says:

    If I were the poet, I’d deliver ad ode to backstabbers who put bigots on the inaugural dais.

  45. Skeptical Cicada says:

    Excellent comment!

  46. Skeptical Cicada says:

    Not this commenter. My position last year was NO SUPPORT until he evolves.

  47. Skeptical Cicada says:

    This is exactly what I predicted a year ago when all the Obama sycophants were ordering us to shut up about Obama’s insulting refusal to “evolve” on marriage equality. “Once the election is over, he’ll be a big gay messiah” was the intelligence-insulting propaganda back then. I warned that they were probably already planning the second coming of Rick Warren. Ta-Da!

  48. BeccaM says:

    Seems to me the original culturally-accurate reference is “and no perverts.” They gradually changed that to say ‘homosexuality’.

  49. FLL says:

    A reference to a possible conflict of interest for Obama back in the 1990s in Chicago.

  50. FLL says:

    Light on substance.

  51. FLL says:

    How’s 236 years of third-party candidates working out for ya? Which country did you say you lived in?

  52. nicho says:

    Not where the shows were. Take it from me.

  53. lynchie says:

    Plus the money put offshore by the banks and his pals on Wall Street. Same for Barry. He is a fraud and simply a role player.

  54. karmanot says:


  55. karmanot says:

    ROTFL except it was too steamy to see anything but Bette’s headlights.

  56. karmanot says:


  57. karmanot says:

    “nor abusers of themselves” I really, really like that part.

  58. karmanot says:

    Have another drink and go to bed.

  59. karmanot says:

    Yes, voted for Jill Stein and in your smug face about it. How’s that lesser evil working out for ya?

  60. samizdat says:

    Why is Drone-bama such a fucking douchebag?

    Seriously, what a fucking prick.

  61. Sweetie says:

    Not true.

  62. Sweetie says:

    It’s also not the correct word.

  63. Sweetie says:

    Any “Bible” that uses the word homosexual is a contemporary hack job. It’s not like the Bible really needs any help in terms of being foolish, but the bigots always try.

  64. Sweetie says:

    Barry’s slicker. He lets other people cut the hair.

  65. Sweetie says:

    Obama refused to be seen with Robinson. When he was hastily invited after Warreninvitationgate, Obama didn’t show and Robinson had a broken sound system.

  66. FLL says:

    As far as their personalities, you’re right, there may not be much difference between the two, at least in private. The political reality, however, is that a president is married to his political party. I really rather resent hoary_nodens’ suggestion that voters did the wrong thing by not giving Romney a helping hand into the White House (either by voting for Romney or voting third party or not voting). Romney was married to his political base in Congress, the Boehner gang; Obama is married to his own political base in Congress. Once again, I resent hoary_nodens implying that I should kiss up to his stupid Republican relatives and give Boehner, Romney and the Republicans a helping hand. Better that hoary_nodens disowns his stupid Republican relatives. He’d live a happier life if he did.

  67. Indigo says:

    That’s Barry for ya. Trash-talkers every damn time!

  68. Sweetie says:

    Hey, I think joking about killing kids with predator drones is funny, too.

    Just like the entire audience he was in front of.


  69. Sweetie says:

    Phelps would have been better. No one claims he’s mainstream and legitimate.

  70. Sweetie says:


  71. UncleBucky says:

    The more I read of Paul, the more I think he was the ancient world’s version of Joseph Smith. Didn’t Paul talk into hats, too? ;o)

  72. nicho says:

    Continental Baths, which gave her the name Bathhouse Betty. Barry Manilow was her accompanist. He used to break into the national anthem from time to time, hoping that the guys would stand up and their towels would fall down.

  73. nicho says:

    Not sure I see the difference between Mittens and Barry any more.

  74. FLL says:

    Only a trifling difference of geographic location. The Everard Baths are in New York; the bathhouses of Andersonville are in Chicago.

  75. FLL says:

    Spot on. I think many people are coming to the conclusion that there are creepy psycho-sexual traumas afflicting dear President Obama that don’t seem to trouble Bill Clinton, although Bill is a relentless corporate fanboy. Residents of Chicago during the 1990s, feel free to chime in.

  76. Ford Prefect says:

    Indeed, this choice is a deliberate mainstreaming of hate speech. There’s just no getting around that. If we dare to tune in, I’m sure we’ll hear some good old fashioned dog whistling goin’ on. (I’ll avoid it, for this and oh, 473 other reasons)

  77. arcadesproject says:

    O’s non-support of gay equality is the issue that actually makes me feel dirty, sticky and in need of a shower, when I contemplate my previous support for the guy. There really, truly is something deeply psycho-sexually wrong with him, I am certain of it.
    Also, I do not think he is pro-choice. And he can’t stop persecuting marijuana smokers. What a guy!

  78. JT Orlando says:

    For the sake of accuracy, it’s actually the bigot’s FATHER, not the bigot himself, who created the Chick-Fil-A logo (at least according to the bigot’s tweet to which you linked). As you were…

  79. FLL says:

    Unfortunately, 18-year-old Mittens tackling the boy he had the hots for and giving him a hack-job haircut (and then telling his Mormon congregation, 30 years later, to kick out those lousy queers) wasn’t a much better alternative. And as far as Jill Stein… um… how can I put this gently? Post-Civil-War America has a very clear track record for third-party candidates. Is there anything you’d like to add? Anything at all?

  80. karmanot says:

    Bette got her start at the Everard Baths.

  81. FLL says:

    Clinton fully admits that he was never very rich until he left office. Then, of course, all those $125,000 speaking engagements started kicking in. I would add to your comment that Obama is either dumber or more sexually twisted than Clinton. Bill Clinton has always had the good sense to avoid any anti-gay bigotry in his pursuit of corporate fans. Obama seems to be too stupid or too sexually crazed to follow that piece of common sense. High comedy will surely follow if only because, unlike Las Vegas, what happens in Chicago doesn’t necessarily stay in Chicago.

  82. hoary_nodens says:

    How did Obama get burned? He had anti gay bigot the first time around and you still obediently got in line and supported him on this blog and voted for him. He owns you.

  83. BeccaM says:

    That version of the Bible to which he refers is the New American Standard. That’s the one that uses the word ‘homosexual’. The King James version: “Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind…”

    And in the original ancient Greek, the term is “arsenokoitai” which (guess what?) nobody is totally sure what it actually means because it was so rarely used. However, most of the analyses I’ve read refer to the practice of keeping catamites. In other words, not two consenting adults, but essentially the ancient world’s version of NAMBLA.

    (The term translated as ‘effeminate’ is also a guess, because the original Greek term, “malakoi”, merely means “soft.” The same letters by that lunatic throwback Paul to the Corinthians also said that women must not speak in Church and wear hats or head coverings.)

    The kicker? Paul (or Saul) of Tarsus never even knew that confirmed-bachelor carpenter from Nazareth. He’s the one of the famously reported miracle where he had a vision on the road to Damascus and was temporarily blinded (gee, modern-day, sounds like he had a stroke), and went on to become one of the most fanatically zealous of the early Christians — essentially happily telling entire peoples that he hated their cultures and they needed to follow his rigidly puritanical model instead, or burn in Hell forever. Many of his letters were written to friends in particular cities complaining about how badly he felt he’d been treated during a previous visit. It would seem that he’d take mistreatment and being constantly beaten up by annoyed townspeople as confirmation and proof that he was right in claiming, all by himself, to speak for the supreme deity of the entire universe.

    We know people by the company they keep. This Pastor Louie Giglio is the man President Obama chose to bless his second term in office, washing it anew with the rank blood of bigotry and intolerance.

  84. Randy Riddle says:

    If the preacher stands by his homophobic comments, the poet should politely decline the invitation.

  85. karmanot says:

    He is worse that Clinton.

  86. karmanot says:

    They could have picked someone like Bishop Gene Robinson, Instead they scrapped the bottom of the barrel and pick a bigot, who seems to be Biblically illiterate.

  87. nicho says:

    This guy is also a total religious fraud. The word “homosexual” does not appear in the New Testament — mostly because there is no word for it in Koine Greek. In fact, the word doesn’t even appear in English translations until the early 20th Century.

  88. jomicur says:

    We keep hearing that Obama is the most pro-gay president in history. Apparently that isn’t saying much.

  89. Jay says:

    This bigot is worse than Warren. I listened to his stupid and hateful sermon. It literally turned my stomach.

  90. FLL says:

    Picking an openly gay Latino poet to read a poem and a twisted homophobe to read the benediction comes off as snide and smart-ass. Last year, the New York Times described Obama’s behavior toward gay equal rights as “too cute by half.” It would be nice for the NYT to take Obama down again because the NYT editors and writers do it so well. So I guess Obama is just sniffing around for those $125,000 speaking engagements when he’s out of office. He might be surprised to find out that those corporate sugar daddies don’t find his homophobic (sexually repressed) antics amusing. Life is full of surprises.

  91. Ford Prefect says:

    Between this post and GP’s post today, I’d say BO really knows how to set the tone for his last term.

    He really hates liberals with a passion.

  92. nicho says:

    No. This tells us that Rick Warren wasn’t an accident. This is what Obama thinks of us. There are hundreds of thousands of preachers in the country. Many of them aren’t anti-gay. There are even evangelicals who aren’t anti-gay. They went for this guy. It was deliberate. They don’t care what we think.

  93. S1AMER says:

    Somebody needs to explain Google to inauguration planners. Seriously.

  94. nicho says:

    Maybe Joe is the fallback guy when Hagel gets rejected.

  95. nicho says:

    They know exactly who this person is. This wasn’t a failure of vetting.

  96. nicho says:

    Shorter version: Obama is a sociopath. Simplest answer that fits the phenomena. He makes Bush look like a pussycat.

  97. cslib says:

    Phelps probably just had a scheduling conflict.

  98. cslib says:

    At least we won’t have to wonder how this will end the bigot will still speak and Obama will go back to ignoring us. Anyone really shocked.

  99. fredndallas says:

    Baffling and contradictory as it may seem, the evidence shows that Barack Obama has a deep personal dysfunctional problem with homosexuality. The apparent contradiction is perhaps as simple as his having the political and intellectual instincts (especially when he is publicly shamed into it) to be “accepting” and the emotional troubles to be a consistent basher. Any examination of his record to date will prove Obama’s pattern of a) lending some verbal and sometimes tangible support for our community and then b) taking some kind of action that gives us a strong slap. Apparently we must never be allowed to dwell in the fantasy that we are “normal & wholly worthy” in his view. Right now it is again slap time with Hagel’s nomination and now this. Not unlike the typical pattern of a domestic abuser.

    I don’t for one minute believe that Barack Obama is not personally involved, at least on an approval level, in the selection of his inaugural spiritual leader. He is hands on with this issue. Just look at the White House talking points attempting to justify and support Hagel’s nomination, for example. Obviously plenty of conversation has taken place about Hagel’s homophobic past and the slap that his selection delivers to us.

    All of which raises the question of what the community should do in response. We’re in a locked down relationship with an emotionally disturbed abuser in my opinion. The first thing we must do is accept that reality.

  100. nicho says:

    Yeah, but Fred Phelps would have been worse. So this fits right in with Barry’s “lesser of two evils” persona.

  101. cole3244 says:

    if it wasn’t for having no choice but to vote for obama because of his opponent i would not have voted for a spineless after some of the positions he has taken, keeping the bigots of america happy is just one of them i abhor.

  102. Jim Olson says:

    What the fucking hell is wrong with the White House? Did NOONE vet this person? Did anyone think that perhaps selecting another anti-gay bigot to represent Christianity at the Inauguration? WHAT THE FUCK!?!?!?!?!

  103. NotTimothyGeithner says:

    Eric Holder, another Republican at Defense, a pig at giving the prayer under the promise of unity at the Inaugeration…ah I thought Obama just needed a second term! When will Obozo find an important role for Joe Lieberman?

  104. karmanot says:

    It’s simple, Obama could care less. This second bigot choice reflects his true instincts.

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