Mike Pence’s email scandal is exactly like Hillary’s

Mike Pence chastised Hillary for doing exactly what he did: Using private email to keep the public from seeing his government communications.

Ignore all the talk about how Hillary had a private server, and that makes the Pence scandal different. Look at Mike Pence’s own words during the campaign — the problem according to Pence wasn’t the server, the problem was keeping emails private.

“Hillary Clinton operated in a way to keep her mails… out of the public reach.” — then-VP-candidate Mike Pence.

The core issue, according to Pence, was that Hillary found a way to keep her government email off of public servers, and thus Pence claimed she was per se hiding something.

And that is exactly what Mike Pence did as governor of Indiana. Pence found a way to keep his government email off of public servers, and thus per se was hiding something.

Mike PenceAll of this talk about email servers is a red herring.

And on the classified-argument too, per the Indy Star, Pence is in trouble: “Vice President Mike Pence routinely used a private email account to conduct public business as governor of Indiana, at times discussing sensitive matters and homeland security issues.”

Homeland security issues. Doesn’t get more serious than that.

And on the question of breaking the law, Pence is also in trouble:

Indiana law requires all records dealing with state business to be retained and available for public information requests. Emails exchanged on state accounts are captured on state servers, which can be searched in response to such requests. But any emails Pence sent from his AOL account to another private account likely would have been hidden from public record searches unless he took steps to make them available.

Indiana Public Access Counselor Luke Britt, who was appointed by Pence in 2013, said he advises state officials to copy or forward their emails involving state business to their government accounts to ensure the record is preserved on state servers.

But there is no indication that Pence took any such steps to preserve his AOL emails until he was leaving the governor’s office.

Oh, and Pence is refusing to release all the emails. Sound familiar?

So to recap:

1. Private email used to hide public correspondence? Check.

2. Confidential national security information possibly put at risk? Check.

3. Refusal to make those emails public? Check.

4. Possibility of broken laws? Check.

In the end, look no further than Pence’s own words: “Hillary Clinton operated in a way to keep her mails… out of the public reach.”

Still going to tell me that this doesn’t sound an awful lot like what Mike Pence did too?

Well, in all fairness to Mike Pence, there is one major difference between Hillary’s email controversy and Pence’s: Hillary never got hacked. Pence did.

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  • Florida Rebel

    WOW. You people are just blind to the fact that HRC is the biggest phoney and the most corrupt individual in DC. I can’t believe you people function on a daily basis.

  • Florida Rebel

    That’s the pot calling the kettle black.

  • marknc

    Sorry, but this article is wrong – they are NOT the same.

    HIllary’s server was never hacked – Pence’s email account WAS hacked.

    Hillary turned over all relevant emails when she left office – Pence is suing to keep his from the public.

    NOT the same!

  • hugh jonson

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  • Zorba

    Well, we shall see. The Republicans have no shame, and they don’t care if they are called hypocrites (which they are).

  • Anthony Ogans

    I’ll bet Pence won’t bring up her emails anymore!!! Probably won’t be ever discussed again! When you now have be exposed as a hypocrite, you tend to watch what you say about someone else. He’s a phoney! Trump’s a phoney! That’s why they work so well together!!

  • Anthony Ogans

    Lock him up in a cell with big burly black guys!!!….and drop the soap a lot!!!!

  • These situations are completely different!

    See, with Hillary (as always) it’s EMAILGHAZI!!1!

    With Pence (as always) it’s OKIYAR!!1!: OK (if you’re a Republican.)

  • Outspoken1

    Heck, if Obama had done one thing like Trump admin, there would have been impeachment proceedings.

  • petewestcentral

    Pence is a Christian, Clinton’s a Democrat. Lock her up, obviously.

  • petewestcentral

    Even if Hillary had done none of the things — Chaffetz was ready to get it going.

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  • Bill_Perdue

    Another tempest in a pisspot. “That struts and frets his hour upon the stage. And then is heard no more: it is a tale. Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, Signifying nothing”

  • ComradeRutherford

    What, Pence doesn’t have a closet full of dresses and have his dominatrix ride him with a strap-on?

  • ComradeRutherford

    “If Hillary had done half of what has happened under the Trump administration, the Republicans would be screaming and foaming at the mouth, and would already have instituted impeachment proceedings.”

    If Hillary had done JUST ONE THING that Trump has done…

  • ComradeRutherford

    Great article, John. This is the single best recap on Pence that I’ve seen on the whole internet.

  • UncleBucky

    Her?

  • Demosthenes

    In a statement released to the press, Vice President Pence defended his use of a private e mail service while Indiana governor stating: “that was then; this is now. That was there; this is here.” He added: rules don’t apply to the Trump Administration, so go pound sand losers”.

  • Zorba

    The Republicans don’t give a royal rat’s ass about Pence and what he did.
    Look at Jeff Sessions, Flynn, et al, and their contacts with the Russians, and Sessions lying about it, under oath, to Congress (which is a felony BTW).
    If Hillary had done half of what has happened under the Trump administration, the Republicans would be screaming and foaming at the mouth, and would already have instituted impeachment proceedings.
    Hypocrites. Every one of them.
    Can we start chanting (regarding the Repubs): “Lock them up! Lock them up!”

  • Lock her up!

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