FBI and 5 other agencies investigating Trump money ties to Russia

Funny the things you hear about AFTER the election. McClatchy has confirmed with two sources that the FBI and five law enforcement and intelligence agencies having been investigating, since last spring, whether someone with Trump’s campaign or business empire conspired with the Russians to hack our election.

According to McClatchy the agencies include “the FBI, the CIA, the National Security Agency, the Justice Department, the Treasury Department’s Financial Crimes Enforcement Network and representatives of the director of national intelligence.”

This confirms a report from the BBC last week:

The significance of these allegations is that, if true, the president-elect of the United States would be vulnerable to blackmail by the Russians.

I understand the CIA believes it is credible that the Kremlin has such kompromat – or compromising material – on the next US commander in chief. At the same time a joint taskforce, which includes the CIA and the FBI, has been investigating allegations that the Russians may have sent money to Mr Trump’s organisation or his election campaign.

Interestingly, the FBI felt it overwhelmingly important to notify the American people before the election that it was investigating months before the election Hillary’s email server, and then little more than a week before the election, Anthony’s Weiner’s emails. That second investigation in particular hurt Hillary badly in the final days of the election. (She was exonerated.)

Yet, at the same time, the FBI didn’t bother telling American voters about its ongoing investigation of the other candidate in the race. What kind of investigation was it? Did Donald Trump has an secret email server? No. It was a treason investigation of Trump’s staff.

More from McClatchy:

The FBI and five other law enforcement and intelligence agencies have collaborated for months in an investigation into Russian attempts to influence the November election, including whether money from the Kremlin covertly aided President-elect Donald Trump, two people familiar with the matter said….

Investigators are examining how money may have moved from the Kremlin to covertly help Trump win, the two sources said. One of the allegations involves whether a system for routinely paying thousands of Russian-American pensioners may have been used to pay some email hackers in the United States or to supply money to intermediaries who would then pay the hackers, the two sources said….

A key mission of the six-agency group has been to examine who financed the email hacks of the Democratic National Committee and Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta. The London-based transparency group WikiLeaks released the emails last summer and in October.

Then McClatchy drops this little bombshell:

The working group is scrutinizing the activities of a few Americans who were affiliated with Trump’s campaign or his business empire and of multiple individuals from Russia and other former Soviet nations who had similar connections, the sources said.

So just to recap, FBI Director Comey felt the American people need to know all about possible  problems with Hillary’s email server, but he didn’t feel that the American people needed to know about Trump’s possible problems with treason.

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46 Responses to “FBI and 5 other agencies investigating Trump money ties to Russia”

  1. WayneSMT says:

    Hillary’s private server was in a SCIF with approval and her private SCIF server was never breached. 24hr firewall monitoring. The DNC stuff is more akin to Watergate then anything else. Nixon knew about it and tried to cover it up.

  2. George Kafantaris says:

    Actually, it’s the congressional Republicans who want the Trump-Russia investigation to go on. It’s the only hope they have to control Trump.

  3. AnthonyLook says:

    I’ve never seen so many people awake in my life; ever since the election. Trust in your convictions; you are not wrong; these racists are wrong. Mysterious ways are purposeful and require faith.

  4. Badgerite says:

    I sincerely and fervently hope so. And I hope the voters wake up to this when they are hurt by these people and quit buying their bullshit.

  5. Badgerite says:

    Paul Manafort, Carter Page and Roger Stone are under investigation for possible links to Russian operatives. There is a fourth who was not named.

  6. AnthonyLook says:

    We are more than lucky. There are more of us than them (63 million plus all the voters they eliminated, all those removed from voting rolls, all those they used voting suppression on, all those that could get out to vote, all those that voted for Stein, Sanders and others, all those that weren’r registered to vote, those that were to apathetical to vote—- Even with all that; we still won the popular vote AND— all the above can be vocal and heard. Voting is one thing to affect/stop; our united voices—never. They aren’t in that enviable a position. They won everything– translation and failure—-THEY OWN. There is no one they can blame, furthermore; the Cabinet picks indicate that any successes will be destructive (EPA, Health, Choice, Medicare, Medical, Equality, Public Schools…). If they think they are despised now, wait till they succeed. I honestly wouldn’t want to be a Republican right now— they created Trump and his Trumptardeness is inevitable. The grass is quite green on our side. We’re more than lucky, we’re fine and poised.

  7. Badgerite says:

    Covert funds from a foreign power with a history of hostility to the United States funneled into an American presidential campaign is illegal per se. It is collusion with a foreign power to affect an election. And fund funneled in to pay for hackers to hack the computers of the opposing political party would of course be illegal. What’s more there is the possibility of Russian attempts to alter the records of the voting as they tried to do and were caught doing in a Ukraine presidential election. The highest court in Ukraine threw that election out because the Russians got caught that time. Manafort, trump’s first campaign manager, subsequently worked for that candidate in a later election. He was chased out of the country by a revolt and is currently residing in Russia. Why does Pence keep saying things like there is no evidence of voting machine tampering? Because it was raised by the intelligence agencies as a possibility in their secret briefings to the Senate Intelligence Committee members.

  8. Badgerite says:

    This is utter bullshit. Hilary Clinton did not “order” any classified information to be placed on her server. The communications were routine and utterly unspectacular. One of the ‘classified’ emails was a summary of a news report for God sake. What’s more it doesn’t matter who was responsible because the standard required by the law was a malign intent to harm the country which simply was not present. It was a routine administrative matter at most involving trivial and routine communications. No investigation was really necessary for the public interest as no communications of any important would have been on her server.
    All of those communications were released to the public and there is nothing important there.
    Colluding with a foreign power to break American law and interfere in an American presidential election to put in office someone who would undermine American alliances such as abroad such as NATO would be the definition of treason. I have seen many elections. I have never seen the intelligence community this alarmed by the prospect of a particular person taking power. These are professionals dedicated to the country. They have devoted their whole
    lives to defending this country from threats. They don’t take these kinds of actions lightly.
    There is more than smoke here. There is real collusion.

  9. Badgerite says:

    Nonetheless, in their own minds they have a common enemy and that is Israel. That Saudi Arabia provides funds to Hamas does not preclude Hamas from accepting help from anyone who would give it. Though the Saudi’s have found Israel more useful in the current environment of Iran’s resurgence and activities in the region, they still would, as you note, fund their enemies. Iran would do the same.

  10. kurtsteinbach says:

    Hamas is indeed a terrorist group that operates all over the Middle East, not just in Israel. They are funded by Saudi Arabia, among others, one of Iran’s enemies. Just because Hamas was elected to run the government in Gaza does not mean they ceased to be a terrorist group, anymore than the PLO ceased their terrorist operations just because they became the Palestinian Authority. . . .

  11. kurtsteinbach says:

    If we have to wait until Democrats control Congress again, then the GOP and Trump will have used their positions to block investigations. That’s called Obstruction of Justice and is a major felony. In addition, using the levers of power, such as Congressional Committees and Special Committees to screw political opponents is also a felony. . . .

  12. Badgerite says:

    I think they are part of their supply network. Yes they have been killing each other for years but when it comes to Israel, Iran is one of its most committed foes in the region. Both Hezbollah and Hamas have used rocket attacks.
    Hezbollah from Lebanon border and Hamas from the Gaza border.
    I know of the Sunni/Shia divide, but it hardly means that Sunnis and Shia can never work toward the same goal to defeat a common enemy. They are “operating together” in Iraq. At least nominally and until ISIS is defeated.
    And Hamas is not a terrorist group that operates outside the context of the Israeli/Palestinian conflict. It poses no threat to Iran. It poses a threat to Israel. As such, Iran would not hesitate to help them as they view Israel as an intrusion of the West into the Muslim world and as a threat to Iran.

  13. kurtsteinbach says:

    Hillary Clinton followed Federal Government guidelines and printed out all non-personal emails for DoS archives. Colin Powell and Condi Rice did not because there was no such legal requirement to do so, and so there is no paper trail to investigate. Powell brought email to the State Dept. and Rice ignored the DoS email system, so that by the time HRC became SoS, the system was beyond obsolete and hopelessly outdated in 2009. . . .

  14. kurtsteinbach says:

    Did you just seriously ask how money affects elections in this country. Boy, you really are a special kind of stupid. . . .

  15. kurtsteinbach says:

    Well of course Trump is sitting on a butt plug. It helps to keep his brain focused. Oh wait. . . . It keeps helps keep his hair on. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/5e2821feec7a76ecaeb2aa822fe9a51553dbb4bd1b4b6c533b5aec890a9f0d6a.jpg

  16. kurtsteinbach says:

    Iran is not funding both a Sunni and a Shiite terrorist organization. Sunnis and Shiites have been killing each other for years. They do not operate together, and Iran, a Shiite Muslim nation is not funding Hamas, a Sunni terrorist group.

  17. John Richardson says:

    One amazingly important distinction here. Hillary directly ordered the classified information to be placed on her server in defiance of the advice of her staff. She was DIRECTLY and COMPETELY responsible for those actions. On the Trump side, there is no evidence WHATSOEVER that Trump was even AWARE that the Russians might be paying hackers to crack the DNS server. He had NO involvement or knowledge, and even if ALL of these rumors are true, and there is no evidence of that other than irresponsible gossip, they don’t implicate or impugn Trump himself in any way. In other words, this is all smoke and mirrors and BIG lumps of BS.

  18. Badgerite says:

    LOL. Thank you for the laugh. That always helps.

  19. my wag says:

    He’s sitting on a butt plug …. helps him ‘concentrate’.

  20. my wag says:

    Taking or using money, from foreign nationals, is illegal in ALL of our elections.

  21. Badgerite says:

    At least he looks truly miserable. There’s that.

  22. nofauxnews says:

    Incoming POTUS does not technically have the power to shut down investigations any more than he does to order his AG to start one. That does not mean he will not try.

  23. nofauxnews says:

    That was a pretty funny picture. Turns out he was sitting at one of the receptionists desks at Mar A Lago.

  24. nofauxnews says:

    Would you have voted for TRUMPkin if you knew that they owned a “disproportionate” share of his business as his son claimed in a 2008 speech?

  25. Badgerite says:

    Well, good to know. I see Assange backed out of his grandstanding martyr pose with respect to Manning now that the President has commuted Manning’s sentence. Surprise. Surprise.
    Phony jerk.

  26. Badgerite says:

    While there was an independent counsel statute in the aftermath of the Nixon resignation, it was actually a federal court panel that appointed the independent counsel. That is how we got Ken Starr. Two Reagan appointees on the Federal Court that replaced Robert Fiske with Starr.
    Congress could actually pass legislation to appoint one again. But of course this Congress won’t. Unless there is a lot of pressure on them to do so.
    The last time, of course, Ken Starr abused the statute so badly (see partisan investigations/witch hunts to the tune of 100 million taxpayer dollars) that the statute was repealed. By a bipartisan vote. The GOP has always hated the statute as it played a part in Nixon’s being impeached and having to resign. The Democrats saw how badly the statute could be abused by Ken Starr. Since then, the GOP has just used Congressional committee powers for the same purpose. The “exiting prospect of using the levers of government to screw political enemies.”

  27. brel1 says:

    Anonymous is supposedly working on these issues also. Don’t know how reliable they are, but hopeful of anything that exposes his butt.

  28. Demosthenes says:

    Don the Con will quickly shut down any agency investigating his links to Russia and Putin. The question is whether the GOP Senate will allow an independent review. If they don’t, such an examination will have to wait until either the Democrats win back a majority in the House or Senate. If the latter, it can be assured that the Democrats won’t be forgiving if it appears Trump colluded with a hostile foreign power to undermine an election.

  29. Naja pallida says:

    Special prosecutors are generally appointed by an Attorney General. Sessions certainly won’t permit it, because he wants in on the corruption. The Office of Special Council could investigate, but that agency hasn’t exactly been known for its high level of competence – again, the director is appointed by the President, thus will likely get an appropriate patsy. Congress could order an investigation, but as long as both wings are Republican controlled, that is highly unlikely to happen. Something could wend its way through the courts and eventually end up with a federal judge ordering an investigation, but that could take years. There really isn’t a clear avenue for an impartial investigation that doesn’t end directly in the hands of a Trump quisling.

  30. Badgerite says:

    trump ‘penning’ his inaugural looks like those damned near dead old whites guys that used to stand on the balcony during May Day parades in Russia while all the military hardware rolled by.

  31. Badgerite says:

    Independent counsel. Independent prosecutor should be appointed. And an outside commission with bipartisan support to thoroughly investigate.

  32. Badgerite says:

    All that Pence can muster is that there is “no evidence” that the elections were hacked. But then there are spots in the system of voting machines that have no backup paper trail.
    How would we know. I think there is evidence of more then we are currently being told.
    I, would, therefore want a full investigation and an independent special prosecutor to ferret out the truth if possible. During elections in Ukraine, the Russians were caught tampering with the voting machines to tip the election and it was only found out in time for the country’s high court to throw out the election result. Paul Manafort was heavily involved with the candidate backed by the Kremlin who would have won that fraudulent election. Paul Manafort certainly must have a good idea of where vulnerabilities in the US election system lie. Especially in the Midwestern states with small populations where a change of ten thousand or so could tip the result. If there was communication between the campaign and the Kremlin, which I think is a given, then why would you think this would not be high on the list of things to try. What?
    trump is so ‘honest’. He lies a gazillion times a day. He has defrauded investors, customers, banks, cities. And Putin owns him. And his people.

  33. Brett says:

    What a joke… how did money going to trump or his campaign affect how people voted?

  34. Badgerite says:

    “Physical evidence” of a purely administrative matter that could not possibly have resulted in any criminal charges without an evidence showing an intent to harm the country. Otherwise known as malign intent. Which was not going to be found.
    It was a worthless investigation from day one. Especially the stuff about deleted emails because the State Department server would have had copies of all communications between the Secretary of State and anyone at State archived. What was deleted then, could be determined to have been purely personal. Any communications of significance that could harm the country if known would not be sent by email. No way. This was a trivial, administrative matter, at best, that the GOP used to harm a potential candidate for the presidency. And Comey helped.
    What we have with trump is credible allegations of collusion with a foreign power to sabotage and American election. And the only thing Pence can say, is that there is no evidence that Russia actually hacked the election. But we don’t know for sure since quite a lot of the system has no back up paper trail. A recount would not show any evidence. An audit might.
    But no audit was conducted. And why does Pence keep bringing up voting machines unless some of that briefing that only Senators got had to do with the possibility that such interference took place? I believe there is much more going on behind the scenes then we have been told.

  35. Badgerite says:

    If the country is lucky. This guy cannot be trusted. Period.

  36. Badgerite says:

    Because the FBI can’t be trusted and all of these agencies have many sources and methods and the more available the better. If one misses something, the other may catch it.
    This, unlike those stupid emails which was purely an administrative concern, is important.

  37. Badgerite says:

    That last recap sentence. WTF. We need an independent counsel on this.

  38. Lee Larsen says:

    Why are so many agencies duplicating efforts into the same investigation? Sounds like a huge waste of resources and tax money.

  39. AnthonyLook says:

    There is a foreboding trepidation, a inherent disturbing possibility even among Trump’s most ardent supporters; that if not this allegation, there will be other illegalities among Trumps many questionable ventures that he will inevitably end up being impeached.

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  41. rmthunter says:

    When push comes to shove, Comey is a Republican. Anyone named “Clinton” is the enemy. Any Republican is OK.

  42. southvalley says:

    They’ll sure try, especially Sessions.
    We can’t let them get away with this

  43. southvalley says:

    Then the FBI ought to have investigated Condi and Colin’s private emails as well. And the millions of emails shredded as Bush II left office.
    The Russian case is NOT conjecture or it would already be over; swept under the rug.
    The entire vote should have been recounted. Now we have an administration of oligarchs who wont’ even need the lobbyists anymore to destroy our government top to bottom.
    Don’t worry, I blame the Democrats for this too. esp Obama sitting on this because McConnell told him to.
    I’m glad the spineless wimp is gone, but what’s coming is the destruction of our country. I hope what you “believe” helps you sleep better at night
    I think the author has merely exposed the tip of the iceberg of the corruption of this election

  44. Matt Keyes says:

    Comparing Clinton’s investigation with this one is apples and oranges. Clinton’s was about actual physical evidence and a chief FBI agent’s sworn oath under testimony. This case is, so far, conjecture. That said, I don’t doubt that it can be true that Trump has nefarious ties to Russia. He is as slimy as they get. I just think the author is sounding a bit blinded by partisanship or a sore loss.

  45. David Welsh says:

    The elections weren’t hacked. The DNC was. If Russia did it, then are we mad at them for exposing the DNC and Hillary for what it really is? Need more exposure like that on all parties.

  46. Naja pallida says:

    Problem is, the President appoints the directors of all those agencies – and they all serve at his behest. Considering the level of incompetency and corruption among every single one of his appointees already, there’s no reason not to assume they will do everything they can to quash any such investigations as soon as they can exert their control. Anyone who doesn’t do everything in their power to protect Trump’s ass, will likely face the wrath of his petty tyranny before they even know what hit them.

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