Trump supporters: Tens of millions of Democratic votes in cities don’t count

In an effort to deflect attention from Donald Trump’s abysmal showing in the popular vote — Trump is now 1.9% behind Hillary Clinton in the popular vote, giving Clinton a 2.5 million vote lead — Trump supporters are now talking about how much “better” Trump did when you look at a map of counties across the US.

And in fact, when you look at the county map, it appears that Trump just slayed Clinton.

 

 

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Here’s an enlargement of that county map that Trump supporters are sharing:

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At first blush, that’s a heck of a red map. But then, when you think about it, the map doesn’t make sense. How could the map be so red when Hillary Clinton beat Trump resoundingly in the popular vote?

The answer: Counties don’t have equal populations. (There’s also a separate problem that the map is wrong, it’s not a map of the counties that went to each candidate.) According to 2015 census estimates, the smallest county in America is Kalawao County, Hawaii, with a population of 89 people. The largest is Los Angeles County, California, with a population of ten million (10,170,292). LA has 100,000-times more people.

Trump supporters would have you believe that the 89 people in Hawaii have an equal aggregate vote as the 10 million people in LA. (Obviously all people in a county do not vote, but the numbers are still useful for comparison sake.)

The goal is to not only minimize Hillary’s unprecedented victory in the popular vote — no winning presidential candidate in American history has lost the popular vote by as much as Trump has — but to minimize Democratic voters overall. The suggestion is that if you’re from New York or California, or perhaps Chicago too, you don’t count. You’re not worthy. You’re not a real American. Sarah Palin started a lot of this talk back in 2008, but the Republicans have been dividing up the country between real and non-real Americans for decades. Most people forget, but before 9/11, the GOP hated New York City too. (And forget about San Francisco.)

And now that a plurality of Americans have voted AGAINST Donald Trump, and for Hillary Clinton, the Republicans are beside themselves — Donald Trump is beside himself — in an effort to legitimize a victory that isn’t.

It drives Donald Trump crazy that he lost the popular vote by historic proportions. Don’t ever let him forget it.

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  • nikto

    True, and very depressing.

  • nikto

    Rural areas gave Trump the snake vote, the woodchuck vote, and the mosquito, flea and tick vote, overwhelmingly.

    Trump got 97% of the bloodsucking-insect vote.
    No election-fraud needed there.

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  • ComradeRutherford

    Yes, it is true: the Conservatives want to elected our representatives by geographic size, not population density.

  • MoonDragon

    In other words, Trump is popular in places where no one (or relatively few people) lives.

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  • The senate was meant to be a sort of “House of Lords” (without the lords) — less beholden to the popular will and better able to evaluate legislation outside the controversies of the moment. (Well, that was how it was supposed to work. . . .) That’s why senators serve for six years, rather than two. And yes, it was supposed to give each state an equal say.

    It’s the House that has proportional representation, as it was intended to be more directly responsive to the people.

    Don’t forget that the government of this country was designed by a group of landed gentry — until Andrew Jackson, they were the only ones who could vote.

  • Wait a fucking minute! The map shows Harris county as red but Clinton won Harris (home of Houston) county 54-41. Clinton won Dallas county as well. What other errors are there on this map???

  • That would be humiliating for anyone capable of shame, but this is Trump. W didn’t care he lost the popular vote and Trump will care even less.

  • Losing the popular vote didn’t prevent W from acting as if he had a mandate and it won’t deter Trump either.

  • citizen spot

    There is an interesting set of red vs blue maps comparing the map related to geography, and the map of the US weighted by population in this article:

    http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/11/30/13631532/everything-mattered-2016-presidential-election

    It is a long article, and interesting, but if you don’t have the time you can just scoll down to the mappy bits.

  • Zorba

    Exactly, Harry. Cows don’t vote. Neither do pigs, sheep, or grass, for that matter.

  • Trumpmerica: where cows count more than people.

    Instead of Animal Farm he’s bringing us Animal Ranch, where some pigs are still more equal than others.

  • d3clark

    I think they have filed in all 3 states now.

  • America hates Trump so much that 2.5 Million more people voted for just one of his opponents. That’s a landslide.

    How humiliating that he only gets in on a technicality instituted at the same time – and by the same people – that “curing” illness was approached by applying leeches and slitting veins to bleed people out so as to “balance their humors.”

    Sad!

  • He knows his win is illegitimate. Clinton had more than 2.5 Million more votes than Trump – America proved it hates him and that’s gotta sting.

    It’s not “one county, one vote” fool.

    Why even compare counties?

    LA COUNTY’S 10+ Million PEOPLE is more than 10 STATES and DC combined!

    Maine
    New Hampshire
    Rhode Island
    Montana
    Delaware
    South Dakota
    Alaska
    North Dakota
    District of Columbia
    Vermont
    Wyoming…

    … combined only have 9.8 million.

  • GeorgeMokray

    George Will was showing off a similar map on the ABC Sunday Snooze back in 2001 to prove that Georgie W was the only real and valid choice after all. This has been going on for a long, long time. Remember Goldwater wanting to saw Manhattan off the country and let it slip into the sea?

  • Mike_in_the_Tundra

    I use to live in Minneapolis. It was very blue and not near an ocean coast. The Lake Superior thingie is a different story.

  • mgiltz

    I lived in Champaign-Urbana, Illinois for a year and a half and love the state! In general, the electoral vote college is outdated given patterns of living have changed more than 200 years after it was created. And small states still have HUGE outsized influence in the Senate, with the 20 smallest states controlling 40 Senators compared to California which has the same total population but controls only two. As you know, undoubtedly. http://disq.us/url?impression=5efe90e6-b8c1-11e6-be70-002590f37976&forum=5941&thread=5349531235&url=http%3A%2F%2Famericablog.com%2F2016%2F12%2Ftrump-supporters-tens-millions-democratic-votes-cities-dont-count.html%23comment-3031612088%3A4GVDXfdjuDVsbSTNwEfsoOv9em8&variant=active&experiment=digests&behavior=click&post=3031612088&type=notification.post.registered&event=email

  • Demosthenes

    I don’t live on the coast, but the Donald lost by a YUUUGE margin here. (Illinois).

  • Demosthenes

    Excellent point!

  • Demosthenes

    The moochers want our money but hate us in all other regards.

  • mf_roe

    I take it that you are talking about the fact that the election is a child of the gerrymandering and resultant discounting of the franchise for a large class of citizens.. Geography has less to do with it than does the dilution and deflection than drive modern redistricting schemes..

    Where you vote matters less than which subset of voters you vote within. I seem to recall a statistic about the disparity of the largest vs the smallest districts being a treasonous 70 times more political power for those in the “Right” group opposed to those stuck in the “Wrong” one. When the game is rigged there is no winner just the most aggressive cheater.

  • Badgerite

    Trump Monster Lawyers have not filed in court to stop the vote recounts in both Michigan and Wisconsin. Hmmm. I wonder why? Again with the not counting the votes thing.

  • Badgerite

    So, when do we get to not pay taxes that support programs that red states use?
    I’m not holding my breath on that one.

  • mgiltz

    According to the census, 62% of the entire US population lives on just 3% of the land area. That’s two out of every three people living in major cities and major counties. Some states don’t have even one major city or county. In other words, it’s our fault for wanting to live in cities and on the coastline that Trump is President. Real Americans like to spread out. http://www.census.gov/newsroom/press-releases/2015/cb15-33.html

  • Demosthenes

    I understand how the Constitution works. It’s why I don’t dispute the Donald’s garnering of a majority of electoral votes means he will be president. My point is entirely different, as I’m sure you are aware.

  • mf_roe

    our elections where NEVER designed as plebiscites rather they are negotiations of the States Rights “compromise”.

  • Demosthenes

    Many Trump followers argue geography counts more than votes, states like California, Illinois, and New York aren’t the “real America”, and they didn’t hugely lose the popular vote because of nonexistent voter fraud.

    Post-truth America has arrived,

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