Who exactly does Bernie Sanders consider a “Democratic whore”?

At a Bernie Sanders rally in New York City tonight, a speaker on stage just referred to Democrats as “whores.”

The speaker was Dr. Paul Song, a healthcare advocate, and executive chairman of the Courage Campaign, who is married to journalist Lisa Ling. Song has now apologized, after his words blew up the Internet.

MSNBC political reporter Alex Seitz-Wald was there:

Speaker at Bernie Sanders rally: “Please do not believe the bullshit… the status quo sucks.”

Adds that we need to kick out the “corporate Democratic whores” and replace them with “Bernie-crats.”

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UPDATE: The full context is now available. In my opinion, it makes things even worse. While Song says he meant to criticize Congress, Congress is not mentioned at all. Hillary is:

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Song has since apologized:

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Note that Song did not simply use the word “whore,” but they added the word “Democrat.”

There are a few problems here.

1. When you’re opponent is a woman, it’s probably not a good idea to call the people you’re running against “whores.”

2. Throwing in the word “Democratic” before the word “whore” makes things even worse. Some on Twitter are claiming that Sanders’ speaker simply meant “corporate whores.” But that’s not what they said — they said “Democratic whores.” That was meant as a slur against Democrats generally, from someone who isn’t a Democrat, and doesn’t like Democrats.

So the question remains whether Sanders agrees with his speaker at his own rally that Democrats are whores generally, or whether there are specific Democratic whores who Bernie Sanders has a problem with — Congress, President Obama, and/or Hillary Clinton herself?

Which Democratic whores in particular does Bernie Sanders have a problem with?

This is the kind of language that you’d expect a Trump rally, and not at the rally of someone who promised to be better and different, but of late has become nothing more than the same old thing.

UPDATE: The next morning, Bernie Sanders apologized as well. Which is an interesting turn, as up  until now Sanders has refused to take responsibility for his surrogates’ inappropriate comments:

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  • Anna Mouse

    One with links to supporting information? The article does have that, oh person who posts “stories” from some guy/gal “reporting” from their parent’s basement. Usually reporting some discredited Republican smear my conservative Tea Party uncle sent to me about 2 to 3 years ago.

  • R.a. Massey

    I believe Mike_in_the_Tundra meant a credible source.

  • R.a. Massey

    At least when President Carter does this he has the decency to get a bit dirty and sweat.

  • R.a. Massey

    HiIIary has 8 years of 1st Lady on her resume. She refers to her “work” during that period frequently.
    Which is it? She was working and is subject to criticism or she wasn’t and is immune to it. Pick one.

  • Tyler

    When real political struggle is happening and people are passionate. things are not going to stay perfectly polite and PC. Everyone knows what he meant, Democrats who take orders from corporate interests in exchange for money. Tisk tisk you uses “innapropriate” language. Meanwhile people are suffering and dying for lack of healthcare.

  • Luis Aanndd

    Time for someone to have a nap. Sexism looks good on you, holding her to her husbands deeds.

  • Anna Mouse

    Refusing to listen to any negative information of your fearless leader, is how crappy politicians get into office.

  • Anna Mouse

    HRC, the former Secretary of State will
    survive your hate as she has the hate of others for the last few
    decades. No evidence to condemn, but you condemn her totally. Why are
    you so bias against her while you give Bernie carte blanche? He has done
    nothing for the middle class or POC in his 50 years
    Heck, he can’t even manage to run his campaign without incurring multiple FEC violations.
    “FEC releases damning 639 pages of violations by Bernie Sanders campaign” – http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/5/11/1525428/-FEC-releases-damning-639-pages-of-violations-by-Bernie-Sanders-campaign

  • Theorn

    That’s just plain silly ^. A campaign image of a liar in a Christmas elf outfit. How does that picture even begin to demonstrate that she’s been “working” for the middle class?

  • Theorn

    You clearly didn’t even read this “article” let alone an actual source.

  • TXDem1945

    calling someone a whore is, at best unhelpful. At worst, inviting reprisal.
    better to build bridges, rather than try to burn them.

  • pbr90

    Solicitors seeking support outside their traditional territory, a poacher?
    Most of the terms used, and their relationships need review in the Democratic Party campaign, by objective measure.

  • Fiasco Linguini

    I think you would have much more productive conversations if you quoted whatever specific item you’re responding to. Like when you say “another lie” as a complete sentence with no indication of what statement you’re referring to. That has been a big part of our miscommunication. I can only guess what you’re thinking. Then you assert that my reading comprehension is low when it is your poor writing skills that are the problem. You would do yourself a favor, and save yourself frustration, by communicating more clearly.

    I had to google “Bernie supporters attacked at the GOP convention in California” to guess what you’re talking about, since you didn’t bother to cite a source. I found http://www.progressivestoday.com/bernie-supporters-verbally-abuse-trump-supporters-leaving-rally/, which I guess is what you’re referring to. I don’t condone these people’s actions, and I don’t think the majority of Bernie supporters would either. And you most certainly won’t see Bernie Sanders supporting it. But, you love to generalize and demonize, so I don’t expect you to believe me.

    Do you condone everything every Hillary supporter has ever said and done? I don’t think so. Yet you seem to insist that every Bernie supporter is guilty of what every other Bernie supporter has said and done.

    Bernie won 69% of the Democrats Abroad global primary. You should check out The World in Support of Bernie Sanders Facebook page. His policies are aligned with much of Northern Europe, where the standard of living is better than the US. Where they have universal healthcare and tuition free college. These are not rainbows and unicorns as the GOP and Hillbots say; if other countries can do it, so can we. I think that even you can agree that we should be spending more on infrastructure and less on the military. I’m sad that we don’t seem to agree on whether it’s acceptable for Wall Street, Big Pharma, the Military Industrial Complex, and other corporate lobbyists to have such control over our country. You seem to agree with the GOP on what is truly the core issue of this political revolution.

    You say you already explained everything but you’ve avoided all my questions. The questions highlight the gaps in your logic, and your outright lies. You’ve accused me of lying many times, but you’ve never pointed out any specific evidence to back it up. You lied when you said “A Bernie surrogate uses the word whore and you defend it and try to validate it as a positive meaning.” When I called you out on this lie, you just said that I implied it, as if that was some sort of refutation. When I asked how I implied it, you just ignored the subject because you have nothing.

    I’m sorry if I ranted on, but I was just responding to your scattershot attacks. If you had focused on the core issues, this wouldn’t have become such a tedious argument.

  • Niki

    More responses from the Bernie Sander supporter handbook. Make fun of the person who shows you the truth and laugh it off. You make it painfully obvious everything goes in one year and out the other. I don’t need your “I feel sorry for you”. I don’t feel sorry for you because I know your incapable of taking self responsibility.

    Actually you didn’t but keep on lying to yourself to make yourself feel better. I don’t even know why you keep asking questions when you know you can’t handle the answers. I read the article and it’s wrong like so much you have written. Funny how your response to my articles is to call them emotional hyperbole and to dismiss the medium article with an article attacking the author for being a lawyer and working with hedge funds. Everything written was true but since you can’t combat it you decide to attack her career and character.

    “Really, a progressive puts the good of everyone above their personal agenda” Now that is hilarious. Calling super delegates and attacking other party supporters with threats and violence. Let’s not ignore how the progressive/Bernie supporters attacked at the GOP convention in California. Attacking cops and destroying property. Yeah I really see the good for everyone in that. All you do is give Trump more ammunition. Asking me what attacks show’s you’re blindness. You willingly (as I’ve said before) choose to ignore it and justify bad behavior.

    ” “Another lie. I haven’t heard (insert Bernie camps juvenile name calling)
    in this election. Classic example as do what I say and not what I do.” WTF are you trying to say here? Did you drink too much Chardonnay before you wrote that?”
    Is your reading comprehension really that low? You guys use name calling and insults when you don’t get your way. Along with threats, violence, and spreading lies like you are doing now. Accusing me of being drunk because you don’t like what I wrote by calling you out on your B.S. isn’t surprising. Another classic tactic from Bernie supporters.

    Another example of your closed mindedness is not knowing what the world thinks. There are many Hillary supporters but they just don’t respond to people such as yourself because it’s like talking to a brick wall with that hurls insults and threats at you. If you actually watched foreign news you’d know the world wants Hillary to become President because she is the best choice. The only country that wants Trump is Russia. The only ones laughing at your lies are GOPer’s who are more laughing at you for believing their Hillary smears and fellow green tea party followers (progressives) such as yourself.

    I already explained everything but you choose to ignore it and continue on ranting about nothing. You just want to justify hating everyone who doesn’t agree with your mind set. No I won’t answer you last paragraph of questions because you already proved you don’t care about my responses. Why should I continue responding to someone who has their eyes shut with their fingers in their ears? If you want to continue responding go ahead. I won’t because I have better things to do with my time then respond to another Bernie extremist who can’t handle reality.

  • Fiasco Linguini

    Your responses become more and more laughably inept; I feel sorry for you. There is so much wrong with that last one, it would probably take me hours to explain how stupid it all is. You’re clearly too pig-headed to listen to anything I have to say, so I feel silly wasting my time on you. I’ve already answered every question in your last post before you wrote it; you simply don’t understand what I’ve written out of sheer stupidity, or refuse to understand it out of sheer spite. Do yourself a favor and have someone read the whole thread and explain it to you.

    I’ll bet you didn’t bother to look at the link I gave you, which provides actual information on why so many people feel that Hillary is a corrupt politician. I’m familiar with the first one you gave me: http://www.rawstory.com/2016/04/surprise-author-of-viral-becoming-anti-bernie-piece-is-corporate-lawyer-who-defends-hedge-funds/. The others are equally lean on facts and are full of emotional hyperbole. You’re kidding yourself if you think that tripe will convince anyone with common sense into joining the dark side.

    How did I imply that “corporate whore” has a “positive meaning?” I never did. I called your lie out and you continue to support your blatant lie. And you justify it by calling me a liar (many times) without a shred of evidence. Apparently for you, the definition of a liar is anyone who doesn’t support Hillary.

    And you don’t know what a progressive is? That’s hilarious! Hillary claimed to take a back seat to no one on being a progressive, so you should know that. She lied though. Really, a progressive puts the good of everyone above their personal agenda – the opposite of Hillary. The political revolution is truly progressive. Hillary is just a corrupt politician who will say anything to trick you into voting for her so she can pursue her personal agenda at the expense of the 99%, with the collusion of her corporate friends. She’s hardly discernible from the Republicans when it comes to war and the economy. She just uses politically expedient issues like abortion and lgbt rights to convince low information voters like yourself to back her right wing military and economic agenda.

    What physical attacks have you seen from the Bernie camp? Or is that another fabrication of yours?

    “Another lie. I haven’t heard (insert Bernie camps juvenile name calling)
    in this election. Classic example as do what I say and not what I do.” WTF are you trying to say here? Did you drink too much Chardonnay before you wrote that?

    I don’t recall telling you what you can say. I did call you out on your strawman argument, which you seem to do habitually. Perhaps you are offended when people call out your lack of reasoning skills?

    Shift what blame? Really, take it easy on the drunk posting, your writing is incomprehensible.

    Bernie’s major donors are unions; Hillary’s are the biased mainstream media, Wall Street, and other evil corporations. Your assertion that he’s anywhere near as corrupt her is laughable. Almost as ridiculous as saying he’s the one who’s famous for flip-flopping. Everyone in the world laughs at Hillary’s long history of flip-flopping. Your cognitive dissonance is monumental!

    So we poisoned Bernie’s mind? What has he said that seems so poisoned? What exactly are you referring to when you say he’s “like this?” Like what? What is he being like? Can you answer that? That’s the only thing I’m actually curious about. The rest of this is just re-explaining to you what I’ve already explained before. I might as well be trying to teach calculus to a donkey.

  • Niki

    You implied it and support it. Funny. A liar calling me a liar. A liar who willing believes lies to justify hating someone for no reason. Sums up the Bernie camp. My whole response was against the word whore and now you’re saying I view it as a compliment? Grasping at straws are we?

    I made it clear what it means but you insist on changing it’s meaning from the general given definition. Once again I’d like to point out how you lie to justify a lie.

    Progressives seem to be the equivalent of the tea party. Cyber bullying, physical attacks, and slandering others. You put your own personal agenda against the good of everyone.

    Another lie. I haven’t heard (insert Bernie camps juvenile name calling) in this election. Classic example as do what I say and not what I do. Don’t tell me what I can say if you don’t want me doing the same to you. No need to try and blame another camp for a bad decision. I have noticed that as a key tactic from the Bernie camp. Shift the blame. What movement? You attack those who don’t agree with you. Bernie and his wife would also fall into the corruption if you are talking in general terms about corrupt politicians.

    News flash. Bernie is also connected to all those. “It is willfully blind to deny that.” Bernie is notorious for flip-flopping on issues. Since when is it a crime to change your mind? I guess the supreme court should make gay marriage illegal again.

    There is to many for me to go over but I will say Bernie is in bed with the NRA, approves of boondoggles, and is in bed with big business. If he didn’t act so high and mighty I wouldn’t even care but like I said before you people and him act like he’s untouchable and some type of messiah. Also Jane funneled money from the university she used to work at. Yeah you don’t know me. I knew of Bernie before he ran and I used to like him until this election. He was decent until his extremist following and the people working for him poisoned his mind. Or maybe I was wrong and he was like this all along. You’re probably the one who just heard of him now and fell in love with his rainbow filled promises.

    You would do well to read these:
    https://medium.com/@robinalperstein/on-becoming-anti-bernie-ee87943ae699#.8j7ue047z

    http://www.salon.com/2016/04/20/bernie_has_run_his_course_the_sanders_campaign_has_stopped_being_about_winning_and_is_now_mostly_about_whining/

    http://thedailybanter.com/2016/01/hillary-gop-smears/

  • Fiasco Linguini
  • Fiasco Linguini

    “A Bernie surrogate uses the word whore and you defend it and try to validate it as a positive meaning.” This is an outright lie. I never said it had a positive meaning. Like Hillary, you lie and you know it, and you don’t care that it’s a lie. Unless you consider “corrupt” to be a compliment? That would explain a lot about Hillary and her followers.

    I made it very clear from the beginning what it means. Maybe you should re-read what I actually wrote, rather than putting words in my mouth and arguing with your strawman. And then you go on to assert that I’m a Trump fan, an assertion you completely pulled out of your ass.

    Single Payer Healthcare was a non-starter because of all the corporate whores, but clearly Dr. Song was most frustrated by the Democrat ones, because they are the ones who should have been promoting it.

    Democrats have voted against progressive legislation on many occasions, and they deserve to be called out for it. IMO, they don’t get a free pass just because they’re Dems. But you put party above principle.

    I used the term “horse in the race” because so many Hillbots seem to view the election as a horse race – it’s a personality cult. You don’t seem to get that Bernie’s campaign is not about him, it’s about the movement that We the People need to fix the corrupt political system that we have. Our elected representatives aren’t representing us anymore, they’re only working for their donors. That’s the main thing. That’s the root of all our problems. Follow the money. And it applies to both parties.

    Hillary’s ties to Wall Street, NAFTA, TPP, fracking, GMOs, regime change, Keystone Pipeline, etc. etc. etc*. are Not Progressive. Those millions she gets from the most evil corporations comes with strings; it is willfully blind to deny that. If it was any other politician, you would see that. She is notorious for flip-flopping on issues as the wind changes. Obama himself called her out for that; she’ll say anything, and change nothing. She is firmly pro-establishment. That’s not slander, that’s common knowledge (to everyone but Hillbots).

    So tell me why you think Bernie is “dirty,” since you brought it up. He has been consistently fighting for the little guy and calling out corrupt establishment shills his entire political career. He doesn’t take $ from corrupt corporations and billionaires like Hillary does. It seems you made up your mind who to vote for before you ever heard of Bernie, and never gave him a fair hearing.

    * dailykos.com/story/2016/2/18/1487045/-Eight-MORE-Ways-Hillary-Betrayed-the-Trust-of-Progressives

  • Niki

    And here lays out why Bernie and his supporters have lost and ostracized themselves from the people they begged and attacked to vote for Bernie.

    A Bernie surrogate uses the word whore and you defend it and try to validate it as a positive meaning. Pure idiocy.

    Except he didn’t. He chose to specifically call Democrats corporate whores. If Donald Trump refrained from singling out specific minorities I’m sure you’d be cheering for him. Well you probably already cheering for him.

    I will do anything? You will do anything to believe Bernie isn’t dirty and that Hillary is because it helps you sleep better at night.

    Just because some of his supporters are only fans of progressive women doesn’t support your arguement that he isn’t sexist. Some of Donald Trump’s supporters support conservative and tea party women like Sarah Palin.

    Not a term but okay. “Deny that your horse in the race is corrupt”. You could have just said your “politician”.

    Clearly you can’t read. I already gave you examples of calling someone out of their name. Debate? You don’the want a debate. You just want to slander Hillary and her supporters.

    If you call out a corrupt politician then it should be true. You’really just slinging insults and right wing lies.

    That makes two of us. Except you belong to the cult of sore losers along with Ted Cruz and John Kasich.

  • Fiasco Linguini

    I can accept that you’ve led such a sheltered life that you are ignorant of the way many words are used in the world outside of Sunday school. But I find it hard to believe that anyone can read that quote and honestly believe it was meant as an insult to women.

    What if he said this: “Medicare-for-all will never happen if we continue to elect corrupt politicians who are beholden to big pharma and the private
    insurance industry instead of us.” I think you’d have to agree with that.

    You will do anything to deny that your horse in the race is corrupt, so you ignore his point and pretend that he was making a sexist remark. But try to explain this sexism. You pretend that he’s insinuating that women are corrupt? It makes no sense. All Bernie supporters are also big fans of true progressive women like Elizabeth Warren and Zephyr Teachout.

    Thanks for explaining the weird term “out of his name.” If it just means negative, you’d be better off just using that word. I suppose that it’s against the rules to call corrupt politicians “corrupt” because that is negative? We can’t have a meaningful debate in that case. You would have hated Teddy Roosevelt or FDR, they called out corrupt politicians all the time.

    The whole thing is just so absurd, I can’t take you seriously. I suspect you are not being honest with yourself.

  • Niki

    So you defend his use of the word whore?

    Anyway, in my home state the governor cut funding to Medicare and Medicaid because he doesn’t want to support the ACA. But guess what? *gasp* He’s a Republican and not a Democrat. Can you list the names of Democratic governors who have defunded or blocked funding for Medicaid in their states to obstruct the ACA? In fact, when was the last time you voted (not inclouding this general election)?

  • Niki

    No it is not wrong. Whore adds an entirely different meaning. If you don’t think it’s so bad then start using it more often in daily conversation when referring to you friends and family.

    Yes calling Obama an Arab was inaccurate. Just like referring to Hillary as a corporate democratic whore was inaccurate.

    Not a local phrase. Calling someone out of their name means you are using a negative word or a word in a negative way to call or address someone.

  • Fiasco Linguini

    Absolutely wrong. Dr. Song could have used the term “corporate democrats” or “corrupt politicians” which means the same but does not include a “bad word” like “whore,” and the meaning of his sentence would be exactly the same and would still be accurate. Calling Obama an Arab was straight up inaccurate.

    I must admit I may not be clear on your entire point, because I’ve never heard the term “out of his name” before, which you’ve used twice, and I can’t really make much sense of it. Is that some local phrase? Perhaps you can clarify your point without using this odd phrase.

  • Fiasco Linguini

    Absolute bullshit.

  • Fiasco Linguini

    The issue is corruption. Corrupt politician = corporate whore = unqualified.

  • SageThinker

    Hillary is the embodiment of the status quo and will be elected due to apathy epidemic.

  • Niki

    My apologies. I gave you to much credit to actually read the entire article.

    “Bernie let the NRA do his dirty work on that one to sink Smith. He played it very close to the vest,” said Garrison Nelson, a professor at University of Vermont who has known Sanders for around four years.”

    There’s more in the article if you choose to continue reading it.

  • BushCheney2016forMerica

    Note to Saint Bernie -> When you’re opponent is a woman, it’s probably not a good idea to call the people you’re running against “whores.”

  • Anna Mouse

    The union bosses fighting for higher wages? At least when the Republicans are destroying the unions.

  • Netizen_James

    How about banning money from CORPORATE entities entirely.
    Only PEOPLE can vote, so only PEOPLE can contribute to campaigns.
    Corporations (which includes unions – all of which are ‘incorporated’) cannot vote, and therefor should not be allowed to contribute to any campaign, even issue-campaigns.

  • Netizen_James

    No, HRC stands with the union bosses in the smoke filled rooms. Bernie stands with the rank-and-file on the picket lines. Bernie fights on the front lines for $15/hr minwage, HRC gets the photo-opp with Gov Cuomo.

  • Netizen_James

    Sanders supporters want real liberal change, not an economically conservative war-hawk like HRC. We want FDR, not Hoover.

    There’s more to being a Democrat than being a pro-choice Republican.

  • chuck

    My goodness.

  • Eve Moran

    You win the trophy for the most ironic comment.

  • Eve Moran

    He had less support.

    He had less support and by doing what he did, he avoided the hellfire and damnation the Clintons suffered. The idea that his bill would somehow have been passed if only they’d abandoned the plan they carefully crafted with explicit support from congress is bananas. OMG, he wrote a letter. How very Bernie of him.

    You cannot really be pretending to criticize the Congress for being biased against Hillary Clinton, while you straight out say she should have got behind a man. That’s the best illustration of the problem with Sanders candidacy I’ve ever seen. She should have backed his bill with no prayer of passing because the bill that had the best chance of passing was written by someone with a uterus. Bravo! How Progressive of you!

  • Rainbird

    You are really Gloria Steinem behind the alias aren’t you?

  • Rainbird

    I don’t think there was any insult or humiliation implied. What he was doing was calling democrats out for being on the take. She just happens to be the biggest taker right now. $675,000 for secret speeches and later influence.

  • Rainbird

    He did in fact. The exact quote, as listed above in the article is: “Medicare for all will never happen if we continue to elect corporate democratic whores who are beholden to big pharma…”

  • Rainbird

    She received $675,000, do you think they gave her that money for her good looks?

    I encourage you to do your own research. Use the terms Elizabeth Warren, senator Clinton, reverse vote, bankruptcy laws.

    This is only an obvious one. Generally I would agree they are not so blatant, but that does not change the fact that corporate male & female democratic whores are provided money for bending legislation to favor large companies. This needs to change. I think we need public funding of political campaigns. That way it will be easier to spot the flat-out bribes.

  • Copper Stewart

    You’re the one defending a politician rather than a set of ideas. I’ve been a strictly loyal Dem voter in every election for 28 years. I won’t vote for Hillary Clinton under any circumstances. If Sanders ends up endorsing her, he can go to Hell. I have no respect whatsoever for anyone who is willing to vote for Hillary Clinton, and I will leave this corrupt party and vote against every Dem on the ballot if it’s the party is amoral and f*cked up enough to vote for Hillary Clinton. Could have told you 16 years ago, long before Sanders was in the picture, that I wouldn’t vote for another Clinton. After the first, anyone who does is either a tribalist-partisan or just an idiot. Your comment stream indicates the later.

  • Copper Stewart

    You are far worse. You are defending a woman who thinks it’s just fine to murder children to butch it up for the polls, a so-called “feminist” who has built her career on the systematic suppression of the voices of the many women her habitually rapist husband has assaulted.

  • Rainbird

    It is possible the Sanders campaign is not quite as organized as the Hillary machine. I am not so sure I believe they have vetted all speeches.

    And the other thing is, I am not as up on language changes and political correctness as I should be. Tell me, what term are we to use to refer to the male democratic corporate whores then? I will begin using this new term.

  • Rainbird

    This holds roughly the same water as Donald Trump saying he can be trusted because he is rich.

  • Rainbird

    You know, I am not as up on language changes and political correctness as I should be. Tell me, what term are we to use to refer to the male democratic corporate whores then? I will begin using this new term.

  • Rainbird

    The super delegates have not voted yet. If they didn’t want to be stalked, they should contact CNN (Clinton News Network), NBC and CBS and tell those networks to stop reporting super delegate votes –because they haven’t.

  • Rainbird

    Nothing like a spankin’ new clean pair of blue jeans to prove how hard you work.

  • kladinvt

    Again Aravosis? Is HillaryInc paying you by the article or word to post this bilge?

  • goulo

    A bit of web searching seems to confirm that the photo shows Hillary Clinton. E.g. https://home.bt.com/news/news-extra/the-history-of-hillary-clinton-in-30-photographs-11363975251529

  • D. Van Nostrand

    I think you need to pick better articles to prove I was wrong somehow because it directly confirms what I said

    “The NRA didn’t campaign for Sanders in 1990, and Jeff Weaver, the campaign manager for his presidential bid and a longtime adviser, noted that Sanders supported an assault weapons ban and never embraced a pro-gun message.”

    Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/06/bernie-sanders-awkward-history-with-guns-in-america-119185#ixzz46FiCpZTc

  • D. Van Nostrand

    OH THE HUMANITY OF SOMEONE CALLING SOMEONE ELSE A WHORE………..when they basically are one.

  • laura

    Do only minorities have their rights violated? Odd how others think they can judge someone’s life choices, let’s examine some of yours, shall we? Let’s see what we can find…

    Does that make you uncomfortable? Are your rights to privacy being threatened? I was making a point, but geography is not always a qualifier and you commenting about choices on the Internet doesn’t cast doubt for me, just yourself. Protect your rights, Your Smugness.

  • johnsmart

    sanders is leading a bunch of deranged infants who must be defeated by any means possible.

  • johnsmart

    sanders is the head of a sick, deranged personality cult.

  • mysticl

    So let me get this straight .. you have NO problem with her taking money from big oil and big banks … you never ask yourself WHY they want to pay her multiple times to give them happy talks … I don’t think anyone ever outright ASKS her for favours in return for her support but I also am not so naive as to think it doesn’t happen. There is a REASON she keeps giving those speeches and there is a REASON they keep giving her suitcases full of cash to give those speeches. Yeah she has plausible deniability … big whoop … she takes the money … she is smart enough to know WHY they give her the money and they give HER the money cause when the time comes they know she will deliver the goods for them …just thinly veiled money laundering if you ask me … money polluting the democratic process and that anyone who calls themself a Democrat ignores this fact puts the lie to your message that you care about honesty and ethics in government … it’s all about POWER for folks like you …

  • Niki
  • MG1

    Or better yet, Ms. Mouse, just stop making stuff up

  • MG1

    That’s not Hillary.

  • Anna Mouse

    “Confessions of a Democratic Whore: An Open Letter to Dr. Paul Song”
    http://www.thepeoplesview.net/main/2016/4/14/confessions-of-a-democratic-whore-an-open-letter-to-paul-y-song

  • Anna Mouse

    I still don’t understand why in the heck they do the diner stuff. Even some smaller states have some top rated restaurants but no they go to some place even the locals don’t eat at.

  • MG1

    Bill and Hillary Clinton

  • Voodoo Chile

    Hey look, a photo op from a politician! That’s at least a little better than a restaurant diner in small town America.

  • Duxburian

    I have to wonder then why he retracted the statement, if its so true.

    Is it that Song and Sanders lack conviction?

  • Duxburian

    So am I to understand that Sanders would put a person on a stage right before he took that stage without knowing what that person is going to say?

    Is he really that much of an amateur? After 40 years of public service?

  • Mike_in_the_Tundra

    Really? Can you link to the site where he called Hillary a whore?

  • Mike_in_the_Tundra

    Really? Can you link to the site where she called Hillary a whore?

  • Duxburian

    I didn’t see the word nazi.

    I do however know that the Bernie supporters are stalking super delegats as if they were abortion doctors and Bernie was the Army of God.
    http://americablog.com/2016/04/sanders-supporter-publishes-hit-list-super-delegates-including-home-addresses-women.html

  • chuck

    Bernie literally thanked him minutes later. He has made the atmosphere possible for this. Imagine if a Clinton surrogate called people whores?

  • Mike_in_the_Tundra

    I realize that was what you were trying to say, but that doesn’t look like her. Do you have the link where you found it?

  • Duxburian

    No, Bernie didn’t make the statement. He just stood there while it was made and then didn’t condemn it at all when he took the stage right after Paul Song insulted Hillary Clinton and the rest of the “democratic whores” which are whom exactly?

    Identify them. Song didn’t before he retracted his statement. Sanders didn’t before he eventually condemned the statement.

    You say he was right to call democrats whores.. Name them.

  • Duxburian

    Oh, ok. So no money from banks and energy.

    Is there anyone else that the democrats are barred from taking money from?

  • Anna Mouse

    Hillary

  • Moderator3

    If that were so, I would have deleted your comment. We need to keep people comfortable. There are many people who get upset about the yelling.

  • Mike_in_the_Tundra

    I am a gay male, and there are indeed male whores. We usually call them hustlers, but not always.

    John Aravosis was essential in outing Jeff Gannon, a male whore with access to the White House when W was president.

  • Chris Johnson

    You are upset with Capital letters & not people with out or inadequate health care?

  • Moderator3

    I will overlook a few extra capital letters, but this isn’t just a few. It is considered yelling online and quite rude. Please don’t do it again, or I will have to delete it. I don’t want to do that. If you wish to emphasize certain passages, use HTML code for bold letters. It’s easy, and there are many tutorial sites for HTML.

  • Mike_in_the_Tundra

    Please supply a link to this information, if you can.

  • Mike_in_the_Tundra

    Nice picture. Who is it?

  • Chris Johnson

    k8Desl. – If you don’t believe it can happen, then it won’t. Money from Corporations have bought off our politiciansite long enough. That isn’t how I want my Government to be operating… Big Business isn’t going to just roll over & say, yes we want you to have Medicare for all. Did Women get the right to vote just because they wanted it…. I believe most people thought that the $15.00 an hour was unrealistic. Look at the States or Cities passing this…

  • Anna Mouse

    Stop the smears against Hillary.

    She has been working for the low to middle class for decades. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CgOwm5xVAAAQtaB.jpg

  • k8Desl

    How effective can Sen Sanders be? He tried 9 times to pass his healthcare bill and did not receive even one vote in congress. Sometimes you have to go back to the drawing board to figure out what will work. I don’t vote for stubborn ideologues who refuse to learn that.

  • Anna Mouse

    Paul Song has a long history of making money off big pharma

  • MG1

    Dear Ms. Mouse,

    Yeah, the company is Berg Health. He and the company are trying a completely new model that uses the patients own biological samples to point the direction to potential treatment. The company aims to disrupt the current scam healthcare model we have. Your lazy, Aravosis-type cheap shot doesn’t hold water. Here’s what his company does:

    “Through the continuous innovation of our technology platform and our back to biology approach we aim to disrupt the healthcare industry. We aim to change the very nature of healthcare by bringing precision medicine to patients, driven by the patient’s own biology and realized through our Interrogative Biology® platform. The patient is at the center of our discovery platform.”

    Also Song is also on the board of Physicians for a National Health Program.

    Re: smears and misogyny, Aravosis and groupies like you are smearing Bernie 24/7. That’s become the purpose of this once interesting and relevant blog. Just check back to John’s posts from 2008. Back then he was trashing Hillary 24/7. And, guess what, Hillary is the same person she was in 2008. With John, it’s always the enemy du jour that he relentlessly smears.

  • 2karmanot

    Pity like puns is an inferior sense of irony.

  • D. Van Nostrand

    Lie. Sanders wants a ban on assault weapons.
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bernie-sanders-gun-control_us_561a69a5e4b0dbb8000ee721

    Would you like more proof?

  • D. Van Nostrand

    Attack the guy all you want, for what you think he is obligated for, but this his is no reason to fault Bernie. And the Doctor Song had a point about …..political whores.

  • 4wonderland

    I don’t hate them, it’s more like pity.

  • Anna Mouse

    Paul Song is a minority shareholder in a pharmaceutical company – maybe he is talking about himself? The Sanders campaign has been primarily run by smears and misogyny.

  • mysticl

    when you have democrats taking money from big banks and oil executives it sends the wrong message and when they get into office and do NOTHING to stem the flow of $$ that corrupts the political process that is damaging and when you have people who campaign as IF they were progressive and then when they get in they govern as centrists and abandon the progressive principles they claim to hold then yeah that’s a problem … money corrupts and it is abundantly clear that SOME democrats no longer represent the voters … they merely pay lip service to them … their REAL constituents are the corporations and we know it … so yeah those people who do that ARE democratic sellouts …

  • orogeny

    So the assumption automatically is that the young woman is still a child, unable to resist the urge to seduce an older man?

  • 2karmanot

    Man hater?

  • 2karmanot

    Jeezus Wonderwoman, use your magic bracelets and conjure up a sense of humor.

  • 2karmanot

    I don’t understand why you are a whore bigot. Whores are among the world’s oldest profession. They work hard, pay taxes and polish their considerable professional skills. Shame on you!

  • 2karmanot

    If that’s all you got sweet pea, don’t give up your day job.

  • 2karmanot

    Getting back to you is the last thing my poor thing would want to do.

  • 2karmanot

    exactly so

  • 2karmanot

    Bingo!

  • Cynthia Williams

    Is that your best answer? Get back to me when you can actually say something intelligent. You poor thing.

  • Fireblazes

    Still better than a false narrative.I’m glad she takes money from pacs, means I don’t have to give as much to get her elected. I would think that money is money, so if I take $10 from an oilfield worker and you only take $2, how does that make you any less culpable?

  • MG1

    How about her surrogate who compared Bernie’s Washington Square rally to a Nazi event? http://usuncut.com/politics/prominent-hillary-supporter-deletes-tweet/

  • goulo
  • goulo

    Is John’s use of “whore” in past blog posts here an insult to every woman in this country? If not, why not?

  • goulo

    So how is that Steinem case any different from this case? In both cases, there was public outrage, the speakers later apologized for the statement because of the public shitstorm, and in the opinion of many of their supporters the speakers were still correct…

  • Voodoo Chile

    Why is the “introducing” part so critical to you? Both are campaign supporters. Bernie fans are smart enough to know that a Hillary supporter says doesn’t necessarily mean that Hillary believes it. But Hillary partisans won’t return that favor.

  • goulo

    Psst: Darrell’s post was sarcastic irony. You and he are in agreement, not disagreement.

  • goulo

    How do you explain it being used about men, then? Including by the author of this blog post in past blog posts here?

  • Voodoo Chile

    I just want to point out that we’re now at the point where we can say “even John didn’t say that” to demonstrate just how ridiculous something is. That’s how far John’s credibility has fallen with his last 2 weeks of naked propaganda.

  • TiberiusB

    Okay, my point still stands, you can’t turn a specific statement about a subset of democrats and turn it into a blanket attack on all of them. Second, yes, I think taking corporate money compromises a politician. Even if that influence is subtle, it’s there. Can you rattle off any names of Wall Street executives that went to jail? How many member of Obama’s administration started out on Wall Street or left their positions to take on cushy jobs tied to Wall Street? Doesn’t all that at least give the appearance of a problem? Obama isn’t unique in this, but the revolving door didn’t slow down at all under his watch, and it never will so long as we effectively allow legalized bribery to drive campaigns.

  • MG1

    You can get your knickers in a twist over his choice of words, but what Song said is true—about Clinton and about corporate Democrats in general. Getting all righteous over his use of the term “corporate whore” misses the point. Anyone who can fog a dinner knife knows DC is infested with corporate whores, and the Clintons are poster children for corporate whoredom. And if Hillary is elected, because she is in the tank with the Healthcare industry and Pharma, you can kiss single payer goodbye and keep paying for those shitty ACA insurance plans with the ever rising premiums and huge out of pockets expenses—you know, the ACA she wants to “expand on.” And no, Song’s was not a sexist remark, it was a truthful statement.

  • TiberiusB

    So, I’m right, the word you should be using is “hypocrisy”, not “lie”. Hillary also received 6 times as mush as Bernie, and that’s only if you totally exclude PAC contributions, hence the “false equivalency”.

  • Chris Johnson

    Eve Moran
    Quite the opposite, if President Clinton & First Lady Clinton would of supported Medicare for All, Single payer…we would have it now. The President doesn’t write the bill, but he sure can be a voice for change. So, the information below reveals Sanders reaching out in ’92… stood by HRC while she began discussion of Health Care Reform – videos, photos…a hand written note to Sanders. The politicians in the Senate & Congress, felt Frm Clinton should not have Lady Clinton be head of a committee. The politicians should be proposing bills set forth to Congress. So, right there it started off on the wrong foot with the “Men” in Congress, Senators. Elizabeth Warren told a story about her reaching out to Hillary behind closed doors – Hillary agreed & Clinton backed up Hillary argument, he didn’t come out & say Hillary did this

    Again, Frm Bill Clinton, shifted to the right, he deregulated MEDIA (bad move – Media can say & do anything & make stuff up). Corporate American benefits, from this & its dangerous. He also, deregulated Glass-Steagal, which was put in place after the Great Depression to divide Banking & Finance and stablize our Government. This deregulation, made a lot of people wealthy, I wasn’t one. The Financial & Banking Industry caused our market failure. Even today, the Banks are bigger than before the crash. Therefore, I believe HRC will negoiate to the Right – by her Campaigning. to keep AHC she is siding with Big Bus. There are many positive things a Medicare for all would help both & I have a list.

    1) When Bernie met Hillary
    1993p://www.politico.com/story/2015/06/bernie-sanders-hillary-clinton-119082

    2)  Hillary Clinton Bernie Sanders 1993 | User Clip | C-SPAN.org

    http://www.c-span.org/video/?c4536221/hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders-1993

    3)https://mobile.twitter.com/BernieSanders/status/687317650658189312/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

  • 4wonderland

    You are a true misogynist. It must be very difficult to go through life being inferior to half of the population little man.

  • 4wonderland

    Keep up now. Hillary never made such a statement. Gloria Steinem statement was made in an interview not introducing Hillary. The statement was.
    “When you’re young, you’re thinking: ‘Where are the boys? The boys are with Bernie,’ ” Steinem later apologized for the statement. Although in my opinion she was correct as was Albright.

  • 4wonderland

    If you tried to keep track of all the men in the congress and senate that were screwing someone other than their partners you would have no time left for your own life. Get over the sex thing buddy. It means NOTHING. Who said it was wrong to begin with I didn’t.

  • 4wonderland

    How does she work for the Banks. How does she work for Corporations. What is she Opposed to that is good for THE People? She has worked for the middle class her entire political life. Where are you getting these ideas? Last night Sanders was asked to name one time Hillary had voted for Big Banks and Wall Street and against the American People He Could not Name One Time. Not One. Stop believing rumors look up her record see what she stands for who she stands for and try making an informed decision. Hillary Clinton is is NO ONES pocket. Never has been and Never will be.

  • Kick Frenzy

    This has been so frustrating to read all of these news stories or hear journalists and newscasters completely miss the point.
    I would think anyone in this business for more than a day or two would know what “corporate Democratic whores” is referring to.

    This is not about Dems in general, nor is it about any specific individuals.
    He was simply referring to those who have sold out to corporate interests/lobbying.
    That’s why the word “corporate” was in there, even though many talking heads insist on only using the “Democratic whores” part to make it seem worse than it was.
    It’s like everyone conveniently forgot that “corporate whore” is a common and known term going back many years.

    And if anyone thinks it was sexist, I’d posit that it’s sexist to immediately assume that “whore = woman”.

  • 4wonderland

    No she does not. Can you tell me what makes you think she does? Sanders was asked that same question last night at the Debate. He could not give one example where Hillary Clinton had voted for any legislation or written any legislation that supported Wall Street or Big Business over the interests of the American People because she had received contributions from them. NOT ONE. So the answer is no she does not screw us over and never has.

  • 4wonderland

    Perhaps some have criticized Sanders wife, I have not. I do not need to focus on anyone but Sanders. How ever you try to spin it using the word Whore to describe anyone your party is not acceptable and is a sexist statement. Sanders has now attacked not only Hillary Clinton but my party. I am both a Hillary supporter and a life long Democrat. I have watched my party fight what I consider one of the greatest evils on the planet, the Republican Party. I find Sanders to be a pompous narcissist equally as dangerous as any Republican.

  • 4wonderland

    He was at the rally the speaker who used the term introduced Sanders so his campaign and Bernie both not only heard it they approved it. No political team allows a speaker to introduce their candidate without vetting his speech beforehand. So yes they knew what he was going to say. Whore is most certainly gender specific in our society. It is an insult every women in this country.

  • distressed

    My replies to this comment do not appear to post properly. Please see the original comment which has been edited.

  • distressed

    I think if Bernie has been in the leadership in the state since the 70’s and has been present to see the effects of a federal law that he voted for then he does bear some responsibility. You on the other hand would like to discuss the role of the current governor and mayor, neither of whom were in office or even public service when this law was passed and went into effect.

    Again thank you for explaining this all to me.

  • D. Van Nostrand

    “Mrs. Clinton has held some of the most highest positions in the United States Government.”

    And America is supposed to just trust anyone that holds high positions in Government? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

    Corrupt politicians that seek the highest office in the US for self-interest don’t deserve that much respect.

  • D. Van Nostrand

    You fail to understand how the English language is used. He pluralized whores and said, CONTINUE TO ELECT. Unless you live under a rock, everyone else knows “whore ” is often not gender specific. At most she is one of the whores.

  • distressed

    Thank you for explaining it to me. As a public servant in Vermont for many decades I do think that Bernie bears some responsibility in how his state is run especially since he is pandering to voters in NY now in the worst way possible.

  • Mischa Pierce

    No, you tried to imply Bernie is responsible for the black lockup rate in Vermont. Don’t try to weasel out now and claim you were talking about Democratic leadership in NY. Those are the kind of tactics Hillary is using that got her I trouble last night (like blaming Vermont and Bernie for guns and crime in NY, then walking it back and claiming you were only talking about NY crime in general). Anyways, I said nothing about you being a racist or about Bernie being Jesus. Now you’re trying to play the victim because I called out your dirty tactic of blaming Bernie for black lockup disparities in Vermont. You even said “Heckuva job, Bernie”. Like it’s his fault. That would be the fault of the governors of Vermont and the politicians in Vermont who keep voting against criminal justice reform. That’s not Bernie doing that.

  • distressed

    I thought we were looking at how many people are locked up under NY’s leadership. But since I disagree with Bernie I guess I’m just another racist who doesn’t understand the discussion. Thanks for the clarification.

    My point is he’s not Democratic Jesus.

  • J.

    And he doesn’t have access to young women now? What’s your point? Bill still isn’t Hillary.

  • Cato the Elder

    Kinda like hillary and wall st bribe money

  • Cato the Elder

    Yeah. Clearly, you do not or refuse to get it. I am sure that women who are raped ask for it. Older POTUS vs a young 22 year old woman. Please If this were Trump, you would call for his hide.

  • Cato the Elder

    Except, that PoS will be back in the White house with young female interns. You realize that, right.

  • Cato the Elder

    Again, you show the same stupid and ignorance as they do. And yet, I find you ranting about sexism from Bernie supporters. Take less meds, maybe you will be less confused. Love how you push gyno-politics.

  • Cato the Elder

    Fell the same way with hillary in her pant suits. I actually shower after I see bill on tv. She is a lying pos who, like her husband, will say anything to be elected.

  • Cato the Elder

    So, she NEVER received HUGE amounts of money for speaking on Wall St. Speeches that she will not make public? And if Bernie is a left-in drag, what is hillary? If she is the nominee, she will move far to the right. Oh, and has she actually enunciated (I now, a big word) her position on abortion?

  • Cato the Elder

    So once again, facts. She is ahead in the votes that were counted. A number of states do not count actual votes, just results. particularly the states that Bernie won.

  • Voodoo Chile

    Did Hillary Clinton correct the record and say that young liberal women aren’t just sex-starved animals going to Bernie Sanders rallies to get laid?

  • Cato the Elder

    And what exactly is “you must be one of the bernbot ‘progressives”, a nosegay?

  • Cato the Elder

    You keep repeating the same thing over and over again. Did you think this was Faux?

  • Cato the Elder

    $250,000, they should show it in theaters. Must be quite the speech. They aren’t giving her that money to look at her.

  • Cato the Elder

    And for me, I do hate stupidity. Hmm, not sure if you will catch the irony. (ps, I’m talking about you.)

  • Cato the Elder

    What a moron.

  • Cato the Elder

    Well, your comment says much about you and should I say, all hillary followers? No, can’t use a broad brush. That would make me sould like you.

  • Cato the Elder

    Gee, you know, when you are the PRESIDENT and doing it in the WHITE HOUSE and using power and prestige of the office to diddle with a much younger woman, then YES, it is MY BUSINESS. If he were a republican, you would have gone nuts. No double standards. If it is wrong. IT IS WRONG.

  • Cato the Elder

    Shouldn’t you be over at Faux?

  • Cato the Elder

    Pretty much like Bill is to the nation

  • Cato the Elder

    Yeah. So do I. I work in hi-tech. My day starts at 6-630 and ends around 4 or 5. And I use my brain all day. I am the one who pays for your free stuff.

  • Eve Moran

    Wow, that’s definitely not at all offensive.

  • Eve Moran

    He didn’t say “corporate whore.” You’re changing the term to suit your argument.

    I actually stood up for Ben Carson’s wife when people were shaming her appearance. I have seen absolutely no one on any of my feeds or anywhere body shaming Jane Sanders. And when I googled it, I got one story, from a week ago, that seems to cite libertarian twitter users as Clinton supporters.

  • Eve Moran

    What objectionable remark have they made against Sanders? Whatever else you can say about Clinton’s campaign, she runs a tight ship and conducts herself as if anything she says could be used against her.

  • Eve Moran

    We might have medicare for all right now, if Sanders had supported Clinton’s healthcare plan in the 90s.

    This is something that hasn’t really gotten the attention it deserves: yes, he was in favor of healthcare reform then too, but he wrote a competing plan that got less support instead of throwing his support behind the plan with the best chance of success. Politics is a team sport.

    Right now, Sanders is campaigning against the people who will be his team. The President doesn’t write legislation. He doesn’t get a magic wand. He has to function within a system of separated powers. And I understand the antipathy toward democrats who have been frustratingly slow, but unless we actually rally together and elect enough people to support whoever actually makes it into the White House, we’re never going to improve health care the way you want.

    So when you complain about waiting, please, also know that we need people who will actually be able to use their time in office to make whatever steps can be made, not the ones who make the grandest promises while they hold the rest of government at arm’s length. It cannot be done alone.

  • ADDISON GAINOUS

    Like I said–these guys could fit in very nicely at RedState or Breitbart. They use every rightwing nutjob trope ever written.

  • ADDISON GAINOUS

    They could walk into any Republican rally and fit right in. The cognitive dissonance is rampant and I swear at times they remind me of Ron Paul supporters.

  • ADDISON GAINOUS

    Amen

  • ADDISON GAINOUS

    Apparently he forgot that bit of info. Ungrateful little weasle.

  • Davie Graham

    Yiu should watch the documentary sicko, perhaps then you will understand how many Americans suffer and die from a lack of medical services.

  • 2karmanot

    Gawd bless you lil heart.

  • 2karmanot

    Look up ‘snark’ and get back to me, you humorousness drone.

  • goulo

    “promoting violence against this woman and pretty much promoting violence against all women period”? What?

    In 600+ comments on this thread, that’s the first one I’ve seen saying he was “promoting violence” against Clinton and against all women. Even John didn’t accuse him of that. Where do you see him “promoting violence”?

  • Jaegers

    She took THOUSANDS of dollars for speeches. Yes, they pay her for speeches like many other politicians have done. I’m glad you realize that.

  • jessie

    You keep excusing this behavior. You can’t do this. Women aren’t stupid. I know exactly what he said and I know what he meant by it. He meant to insult and humiliate her.

  • jessie

    You have this confused with a prostitute which are both derogatory and are both meant to cheapen, insult and humiliate women.

  • jessie

    Sorry, I don’t buy none of your Bernie Sanders Blsht spin. The fkng nerve of him. Mrs. Clinton’s husband went and got Dr. Song’s sister-in-law out of prison in North Korea. Lisa needs to have a talk with this idiot. What an embarrassment to Lisa and Laura’s family.

  • Rainbird

    No, it is not. For one thing, he was not only talking about Hillary. He was talking about all the democrats who are on the take.

  • Rainbird

    And Hillary can’t find her speeches. What did she say to those banksters anyway?

  • Rainbird

    Wow, I bet you are a person who screams sexism a lot. Look there is nothing wrong with women, I have nothing against a woman president. But not this woman. She works for the banks, she works for the corporations. She is opposed to things that could be good for people, she doesn’t believe in helping the middle class. She makes millions of dollars to pass laws to help the 1%.

  • Rainbird

    Really? So the millions of dollars she takes for speeches, there is zero payback for that? Corporations are just doing this out of the goodness of their corporate hearts?

  • D. Van Nostrand

    It’s good to see a liberal not voting a certain way, just because they are a liberal.

    Sanders has sound reason to be against allowing lawsuits against gun manufactures. I bet you many liberals agree with Sanders on this ….

    You know there are probably millions of liberal gun owners . And if gun manufactures can be held accountable for Sandy Hook, it is possible any liberal that sells a gun , could be held accountable in the same manner.

  • D. Van Nostrand

    Democratic : process of voting for ….elected officials

    Whore: slang for anyone ……on the take.

    He clearly said ” CONTINUE TO ELECT CORPORATE DEMOCRATIC WHORES…………….he is clearly referring to at the very least….. those that have already been elected,

    Dr. Paul Song is either a progressive or at the very least a democrat.

    Let’s not fool ourselves into thinking the guy was wrong about anything.

  • Jaegers

    The terms CP Time and superpredators are not racist. I bet most of the people outraged about CPT had no idea what it meant before the skit.

  • Jaegers

    No she does not.

  • Mischa Pierce

    I’m an Independent (Socialist, registered as an Independent most of my adult life) who registered as a Democrat so I can vote for Bernie. I don’t know if you realize this, but you need us to win a general election. Us Independents make up 42% of voters. Democrats only make up 28% of voters and Republicans only make up 22% of voters. Unless you’re happy only appealing to 28% of Americans. Good luck winning a general that way. You guys need to get off this “Team Democrat” crap. That’s what killed the GOP. This soccer hooligan, party over priniciples mentality. You should be doing good and goddamn back flip for joy that Bernie is expanding the Democratic Party and bring voters back into the fold that the DNC hasn’t appealed to since the late 70s. Like I said, unless you’re happy only appealing to your relatively limited partisan base of the past 30 years while telling Independents and Progressives to piss off. That’s what the Republicans decided to do the past 4 elections and they’re paying for it for chasing away Independents and Moderates. Progressive Independents are the secret ingredient that made the “Obama Coalition” successful. If you keep running candidates like Bernie and the down-ballot candidates he’s promoting, we’ll keep voting Democratic. Capisce?

  • Mischa Pierce

    Cheating on your wife is VERY disrespectful of your wife. And, yes, womanizing can be an indicator that you view women as sex objects. C’mon. Feminism 101.

  • WampusKat

    Actually, the corporate “whores” standing in the way of health care progress aren’t Democrats and Bernie Sanders knows it: http://www.sanders.senate.gov/koch-brothers

    Let’s examine exactly how much effort the “Medicare for All” screechers put into helping pass better legislation. This was the sum total of their efforts and they refused to support a public option because “Single-Payer Now!” I was there: http://www.dailykosbeta.com/stories/775187

    They handed out cupcakes to lawmakers… 300 nitwits in attendance. Then they started targeting Democrats with ads that helped flip the House to the teabaggers: http://elections.nytimes.com/2010/results/house

    And Bernie, the dolt, has zero ideas for improving upon the ACA or getting any sort of “single-payer” off the ground, as he clearly demonstrated to the entire country: http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/NY-Daily-News-Endorses-Clinton-as-Superprepared-Warrior-Realist-375485171.html

  • Chris Johnson

    I don’t know Mr Song. & quite frankly, I don’t even care what he says or who he is – not saying I agree with his language. I don’t care about Mr Song. I care about our Government giving us health care. The AHC is not the solutions, it does nothing to control costs. AHC continues to favor Corporate America; Medicare helps the people. Tell a Senior Citizen you are going to take it away – they will not be happy, so that tells me, something must be good about it

    Nurse Unions. Medical Students. Physicians…are advocating for it…it’s past time We have people dying here in the USA, because of Healthcare costs. Profit for being sick is horrible, our health is not a commodity. As far as HRC & Sanders on this issue, she is siding with Corporations, not the people, because Sanders knows, Obama knows, HRC knows, I know, Nurses, Dr, Med Students, Pharmaceutical Companies, Hospitals know. THEY ALL KNOW MEDICARE FOR ALL IS A BETTER DEAL..HRC made a mistake & many Democratic know because many of us have wanted this far too long. That is a big reason Obama was elected So, I don’t care about references, name calling I care about everybody getting insurance & stop people from dying because they don’t have it, can’t afford it…AHC IS A CRAZY PLAN..BETTER THAN NOTHING GETTING UP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. WE NEED MEDICARE FOR ALL..

  • Rainbird

    No, I disagree. He was actually talking about quite a number of democrats. They are taking huge sums of money for pay. I don’t think it promotes violence against anyone. It is a simple matter of a bunch of us feel that is not right. Millions of dollars paid for secret speeches. Not right.

  • Rainbird

    She isn’t electable without the independent vote.

  • Rainbird

    He was not only referring to Hillary. There are lots of democrats on the pay from big corporations. Then they do the corporate bidding.

  • Rainbird

    The democratic party has changed. It no longer thinks big. It no longer has big ideas. …Or ideals. She takes tons of corporate money to enact their legislation, does she not?

  • Rainbird

    By false, you mean she didn’t take millions of dollars from large corporations?

  • Rainbird

    The question is really quite simple. Does she take millions of dollars from big corporations to screw us over or not?

  • jessie

    You Sanders supporters will say anything to get Sanders elected. You’re no better than Trump.

  • jessie

    When you humiliate someone’s spouse you humiliate them too. Don’t kid yourself. Price of truth my ass.

  • jessie

    Just let him try speaking to his wife like that. She’ll knock him upside the head. Mrs. Clinton has held some of the most highest positions in the United States Government. She was our First Lady. Is this how you respect her? Apparently not. Is this how you respect our Country” You have no civility and neither does Sanders’ campaign.

  • jessie

    WHAT!!! It is completely gender specific. Stop excusing this.

  • jessie

    He knew exactly what he was saying. And he meant every word. He was referring to Mrs.Clinton as the Democratic whore. Apology not accepted. Horrible disrespectful and promoting violence against this woman and pretty much promoting violence against all women period. His wife should be ashamed of him.

  • Reno Berkeley

    So, you are saying, in essence, that any woman who doesn’t vote for the woman, simply because she’s a woman, is betraying her fellow women?

    Gee, thanks for clearing that up. I guess, as a woman, I have to vote for the woman! Too bad for you it won’t be Hillary.

    If not Bernie, then Jill Stein.

  • Reno Berkeley

    And what about Hillary Clinton’s racist comments? C.P. time, superpredators, and how Gandhi had a gas station in St. Louis? Just to name a few. What about her policies that literally got thousands of innocent women and children killed due to her interventionist policies in South America and the Middle East? Care to explain how she is oh, so much better than Bernie?

  • Reno Berkeley

    You are missing a critical element by focusing on the word “whore.” The term “corporate whore” is genderless and could mean man or woman. It means a person who has traded his own morals for materialistic wealth. The phrase has been around for at least 25 years. I, myself, at least on one occasion, referred to President GW Bush as a corporate whore because he’s a sellout.

    But, hey, go on and cry about the sexism inherent in Bernie’s campaign. Keep calling Bernie supporters Bernie Bros or basement-dwelling fatties. I mean, it’s not like any Hillary supporters have ever body shamed Bernie’s wife or criticized her appearance. Totally not sexist. At all. /s

  • Kansachusetts

    Can’t begin to tell you how disappointed I am in your dishonest shilling for Hillary, John.
    I followed you on this blog for years. Would you have called out Hillary if one of her people made a similarly objectionable remark?

    I don’t mind that you support her instead of Bernie. But your arguments have been disingenuous and unfair, as in this case. Give the ball back to Jon Green please.

  • Reno Berkeley

    From what I understand, he wasn’t even at the rally yet when Song uttered those words. He condemned it quickly. IMO, he shouldn’t have had to. That term is certainly not gender specific. Go ahead, look it up.

  • Reno Berkeley

    “Corporate whores” is not gender specific. Get over yourselves. Song told the truth. How many times have Clinton and her surrogates cried sexism while being guilty of sexism? Too many to count, IMO.

  • Ben Melman

    Look up the Animas River debacle. Whether or not it’s irrelevant to the topic of this discussion is up to you.

  • 4wonderland

    I don’t know what you are talking about what EPA misconduct. Are you talking about Flint?

  • 4wonderland

    Sounds like someone is getting cranky time for your bedtime little one.

  • 4wonderland

    Yup, because they obviously are not using their brains to investigate who they are going to give their votes to. You are always a woman first, these girls can’t walk their campus alone safely, rape is rampant on campus, violence against women in their own homes is out of control. So yes when women don’t respect themselves and other women enough to vote in the First Woman President I believe there is a very special place in hell for them.

  • Ben Melman

    Oh, typical self-righteous conformist you are. Always taking terms at face value. Refusing to acknowledge hidden context and cues. Do you have Aspergers by any chance?

  • Ben Melman

    Just a quick correction to myself: failed to own up WHEN GIVEN THE CHANCE

  • Ben Melman

    Like the EPA failed to own up to their blatantly disgraceful misconduct in Animas last summer? Funny how you establishment degenerates can call out an outsider, but when one of your own screws up to the core, you just shrug and look the other way. Then you see parties like the Green Party, ideologies like libertarianism and socialism spring to power, you cringe in shock and disgust. This is what makes you establishment degenerates utter hypocrites who value fame and status over substance, and aggressively lash out at those who refuse to submit to the same old. Corporate slavery, submission to authority, police brutality and whatnot… that’s fine, these men/groups are in power, they can rape you with a blade knife for all you care, you’d like their presence anyways…

  • Ben Melman

    Through preservation of the present power structure and fabricating pseudo-“intellectual” information meant to deliberately mislead the masses into clinging to the status quo? I’m sorry, but when you say “fringe”, you intend to mean an individual (or group of individuals) who exhibit independent (and critical) thought rather than following the same tiring rhetoric that got thousands of innocent civilians (and our own) senselessly slaughtered in wars time and time again. Am I right? If so, I hate to inform you (though you are probably well aware) but conformity is a false social construct with the sole intention of avoiding rebellion in the event that controversial actions (such as war) are executed. This heavily flawed concept tends to have disastrous implications that outweigh any of its advantages. If you consent to war under the guise of fake “patriotism”, you consent to rape. I hate to analogize, but tis the truth.

  • Buck Wheat

    Said the old witch in the shoe.

  • Fireblazes

    These comment boards have become a waste of time. Devoid of any meaning and filled with ignorant jerks. All of them think they have the biggest D,, but they don’t know because all they do is sit behind the monitor and have never seen a real one, except in porn. None of them are worth wasting any of our time,heartfelt opinions or beliefs. Nobody cares, none of them, just a bunch of assholes playing dumbass.

  • Cynthia Williams

    Fun? It would then appear that you have identified yourself as a troll, proudly waving your dedicated ignoramus badge for all to see. Thank you, I always enjoy seeing your ilk coming. It makes it so much easier to avoid your smell. .

  • Cynthia Williams

    It has, apparently, not entered your mind that 1: Tossing out right wing talking points as “opinion” and 2: blithely using slurs, false narratives and stereotypes does NOT lend credibility to your comments. What it does do, however, is publicly display your lack of critical thinking as well as your woeful or is it willful ignorance – not to mention reveals your obviously deep-seated prejudices. IF you’re a Bernie supporter, frankly you do him nor his platform nor his policies any service.

  • veerkg_23

    The two are not even remotely comparable. Blasio is not a racist and a satirical joke is not in the same ballpark as what Slanders supporters are deliberately saying.

  • veerkg_23

    Does Slanders have any names for which of his Democratic colleagues in the senate he considers whores? Com’on let’s hear them.

  • veerkg_23

    Sanders is responsible for the tone of his campaign. His surrogates, who he cuts adds with, have been saying increasingly hostile and flat of lies for a long time now. He’s either incredibly naive and being bamboozled or is doing it on purpose.

  • Cynthia Williams

    Goodness, there it is. Took you a while but there’s the “antisemitism” card. Wheee and you tossed in “authoritarian” to add some “credibility”. Can’t say I’m surprised. It would appear, though, you may not be playing with a full deck.

  • Cynthia Williams

    Now these students may have an excuse. After all, it’s the Texas educational system.

    http://crooksandliars.com/2014/11/video-texas-tech-students-dont-know-who

  • Cynthia Williams
  • JB_Gator

    Definitely agree here. Just wanted to say a few things:

    > “For some reason liberals think we can do everything top down. Meanwhile conservatives know that they have to be organized at the local level.”

    Ironically these same conservatives swear top-down economics will work. Or maybe they just push it because they know it *doesn’t* work.

    > “I think because those in the national organizations at the top don’t want to give up any turf to anyone else.”

    If I could, this would be bold, underline, and italicized.

    Also 100% on this one:
    > Poor leadership and voter apathy. Both those need to change.

  • Voodoo Chile

    Wait, I thought Bernie supporters were college-aged liberals? That doesn’t sound uneducated to me.

    Then again, your camp declared that young college-aged liberal women are just going around cruising for sex at Bernie Sanders’ rallies and they have a special place in hell waiting for them.

  • Darrell Imaginarian

    I mean fine he humiliated his wife, who is not only a journalist and a Hillary supporter, but has a personal debt of gratitude to Bill Clinton, who flew to North Korea to retrieve his wife’s sister from a North Korean prison camp. But sometimes utterly humiliating your wife is the price of truth.

  • MD

    telling it like it is? Sort of like Trump is not PC? you fringe people don’t care how you get there do you?

  • For some reason liberals think we can do everything top down. Meanwhile conservatives know that they have to be organized at the local level. Yes, we had 8 years of Obama and some good national policy. Meanwhile we lost states that should be blue and they are passing horrible laws in places like Michigan and Wisconsin. They also redrew the districts to help themselves get re-elected both at the state and national level. This plays out in other ways as well. Anti-gay groups have local chapters. We throw parties in NYC and DC and wonder why we lose almost every ballot initiative at the state level, even in blue states. We should not have lost Prop 8 but we did because they were organized and well funded and we were disorganized with a muddles message. You’d think we’d have learned by now. It’s not like this hasn’t been discussed as a problem since at least the 90s but still nothing changes. Why? I think because those in the national organizations at the top don’t want to give up any turf to anyone else. And here were are battling state anti-gay bills in 2016 a couple of decades after we ought to have gotten federal ones. And why doesn’t this keep happening? Poor leadership and voter apathy. Both those need to change.

  • 4wonderland

    He is being asked to release his tax returns for the past three years. This is a standard request for ALL candidates’ who run for President. All other candidates with the exception of Trump had released their Returns. Bernie will not do so because he is a Millionaire and he does not want his supporters to know he is of the 1%

  • 4wonderland

    Bernie Sanders is a Millionaire and will not release his tax returns. He does not want his supporters he is part of the 1%. The man is a con artist.

  • 4wonderland

    Like most Sanders followers you do not know much about politics. Speakers who introduce a Presidential Candidate at a major rally do NOT just stand up and wing it. Their introductions a carefully approved by the campaign before they open their mouth. Bernie Sanders most certainly knew what the Dr. said he heard the comment and had plenty of time and opportunity to correct and apologize. Sanders not only insulted Hillary Clinton, he insulted the Democratic Party and women. You are not so naive to believe what you wrote. If you are you should truly do more research on your choice of a candidate. He is not the man you think he is.

  • 4wonderland

    Well with a name like Buck Wheat I guess I couldn’t expect much more from someone like you,

  • 4wonderland

    Another sexist remark. Are you unable to say anything intelligent without your rather small manhood being threatened?

  • 4wonderland

    He has been ignored for 30 years. He has done nothing for 30 years other than live off taxpayers money. There is a reason only one Senator has endorsed him. They know they cannot work with him. His “policies” call for a 40% increase in the size of the Federal Government and an increase of $4,740. in taxes for every taxpayer in this country. That is just the beginning of his grand plans. His ideas do not hold water. He is a sham and anyone that take the time to read his plans on his web site can see that.

  • JB_Gator

    The guy who made the Nazi allusion apologized too, but by the standards of this article’s author we need to continue to deride him and Hillary Clinton for it, regardless.

    …did I get it right?

  • JB_Gator

    You know, I think you nailed the problem here. Most people are simply not aware of the amount of effort that it would actually take to achieve the changes we want. Voter apathy is a problem, but in a lot of ways it stems from voter ignorance. You’re probably right that young liberals (and many older ones, for that matter) think the only important vote is for the President, and that the rest should take care of itself (top-down). Nothing else gets as much press, so that’s the only thing that’s focused on. Hard to care about something you don’t know about. By now, I tend to think this is by design though.

    Now I’m not going to sit here and pretend I know the details about the timeline towards the 2022 elections, but I can definitely tell you that if these details were laid out and the importance of each step made known, I would be more engaged in the process – and I’m sure a lot of other people would be too.

    The problem is that the real ‘workings’ of our government are something of a black box even for more educated US citizens. Due to this, it seems that participation in the process is futile because no matter who you vote for, the outcome you want isn’t really achieved – leading to disillusionment – leading to voter apathy. But this is similar to condemning underfunded government programs as ineffective – of course it is ineffective if the resources aren’t applied how they should be/where they matter. And of course if we only vote for a new President every four years and do nothing else, the interests in power in Congress, etc. will keep things mostly the same.

    We can’t apply 25% effort and expect 100% results. The problem is that this current level of effort (just voting once every 4 yrs) is being sold and perceived as 90-100% of the battle.

  • 2karmanot

    Cuz, it’s fun to flip the trolls. And if you’ll notice most of the long time Commentators have left and in their place are minions of Hilltroll bots.

  • 2karmanot

    Desperate….I see you so identify. Poor thing

  • 2karmanot

    Take an Aspirin, you’ll feel better.

  • 2karmanot

    I have great respect for whores, who are hard working and dedicated to skillful professionalism.

  • So you’re counting on the people who didn’t show up in 2010 and 2014 to show up in 2018? The map is a little bit favorable for the Democrats to take the Senate in 2016, but the map for Republicans to take it back in 2018 looks great, and that’s without the usual no-show pattern of Democrats.

    I get what you want but that’s going to take a lot of election wins, including taking back statehouses in 2020 to redraw more fair Congressional lines in time for the 2022 elections. Yeah, that long. If you aren’t in this for the long fight, then you aren’t serious. My sense with a lot of liberals, especially young ones is that they think they can show up once and expecto patronum everything will be fixed. It just doesn’t work that way. A lot of what is wrong has to do with money and an out-of-touch party establishment, but more than anything else it’s about voter apathy. They assume voters don’t care and in most cases they are right. Show them repeatedly that we do care and only then will things really change.

  • 4wonderland

    Yes, they were both correct. Young women are controlled by their hormones rather then their brains, thank god they do grow out of that. There is also a very special place in Hell for cowards and any woman who does not support other women in this country is a coward.

  • BeUtahful

    He’s telling it like it is! I wonder what all of the people who died from lack of healthcare would say about it

  • 4wonderland

    Who cares neither can 70% of most men. What is the big deal. It is more that time to have a President that can make decisions without being disturbed by that little head. Men have had their chance and keep messing things up, push over it is time for a women to take control.

  • 4wonderland

    Both Albright and Steinem had it right. The only thing they said wrong was that they were sorry. Women who don’t support Hillary do have a special place in hell to look forward to. Steinem was correct also young women as a whole think more with their hormones than brains. If the truth upsets people to bad it is still the truth.

  • Zombie Run

    This is absolutely not true. Sanders condemned it almost immediately. You seem to be assuming he knew about it at the moment it was said, but it’s absurd to think he was listening to the previous speakers as he was prepping to go out on stage to face 27000 people. It is just as absurd to assume, given his schedule, he didn’t head straight to a bed immediately following the event. He condemned the comment first thing this morning. His wife condemened it during an interview.

    Oh, and I suspect you are just as irate about a Clintonite implying the Sanders rally was a Nazi rally….right? http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/4/14/1515279/-Will-Hillary-Condemn-Tom-Watson-s-anti-Semitic-hate-speech-He-provides-analysis-to-her-campaign

  • 4wonderland

    Hillary has not broken any laws. Try to get her name spelled correctly next time you give yourself away as a Republican. Just saying!

  • 4wonderland

    No it is not true. But that is truly not the point. That an educated Dr. would feel free to use the word “Whore” in reference to Hillary Clinton and the Democratic congress is not acceptable. It is crass and sexist. You can’t defend it and if you are a woman it should insult you to the bottom of your being. If it doesn’t you have gotten lost along the way. Using ugly derogatory words toward women in this country is NOT acceptable. When women think it is OK they are betraying themselves, their mothers, sisters,daughters and every other woman on the planet. It Is NOT OK.

  • 4wonderland

    Enthusiasm if felt in many ways. With Hillary, it has been shown not by gathering in great globs of people but in showing up to vote. Our enthusiasm has topped Sanders by 2.5 Million people so far. By the time the primaries are done it will be many more million votes for Hillary. We also show our enthusiasm and dedication by getting out the vote for Hillary. We have been very successful. That is why Hillary will be our next President. We are not loud but we are extremely effective.

  • Buck Wheat

    They must all be whores then.

  • thock

    Why don’t you start an affirmative action type block for deprived women?

  • thock

    All Lesley is saying that what Song said is true

  • thock

    Agreed

  • 4wonderland

    I can’t believe there are still people like you around. The word refers only to women. It is an insult to All women. Sanders did not correct his speaker when he had the chance he is as guilty as the Dr. You are simply an ignorant sexist.

  • 4wonderland

    Really intelligent reply. Women who support sexist men don’t deserve support form other women.

  • B. Flatt

    Go shove your judgements of women.

  • B. Flatt

    The only people inappropriately maligned by the comment are sex workers. Those so offended by the term should think about what it means to exchange principles for cash, and how very accurately the term describes those who do.

  • 4wonderland

    What falsehood are you talking about? I don’t hate I pity stupidity

  • Polar Girl

    Sluts can have all the fun they like and whores should be able to go into business.

    Complain to Hillary about her mocking them.

  • 4wonderland

    Really Lesley, are you a woman? You are not sensitive to the word “whore”. What kind of woman are you anyway? Would it be OK if someone referred to you as a whore or your Mother or your daughter. Are you one of those women that just sits back and thinks oh boys will be boys? If you actually are a woman that is simply pitiful.

  • 4wonderland

    Bernie Sanders did not correct the statement when he had the chance. He had the opportunity to do so and didn’t. The man has no honor and no loyalty to our Party. He is an embarrassment and a fraud.

  • Organ Donor

    nice work twisting the title of the article into a tasty morsel of clickbait…speakers of rallys ARE NOT necessarily vetted about the full dialogue they will say. maybe at a HRC rally, yes…she likes to have everything perfectly scripted

    your title is libel towards Bernie…you really should change it.

  • 4wonderland

    Yes actually who cares what keeps 79% of men in this country cheat on their partners and 67% of women cheat on their partner. Why in hell is it any of our business get your mind out of the gutter.

  • Lesley Cate Donovan

    Did everyone forget the point he was trying to make just because they are sensitive to the word “whore”? It would be funny if it weren’t so true.

  • Fireblazes

    It’s not like us boomers have a lot left to give after supporting our children into their 30’s

  • Fireblazes

    No, she got money from people that work as employees in the oil and gas industry. Just like BS.

  • Niki

    Nah, it shows I know what the word means and who it is used to describe. Which is in fact primarily women. You can deflect and call me sexist all you want ( I’m you’ll call me a racist next) to avoid the issue at hand but the fact remains that the guy referred to Hillary as a whore. However, you calling me sexist shows that you don’t even know the correct way to use the term.

  • 4wonderland

    This unfortunate follow is brain dead then. Clearly Hillary supporters are well educated, well informed adults. Unlike the zombie stoned uninformed followers of Sanders. That is why Hillary will be our next President.

  • Fireblazes

    Then why are you still here?

  • Charlotte

    He’s not a Hillary campaign manager.

  • Niki

    Actually I didn’the use the word whore. You did. Shame on you.

    Didn’t use the word whore (your word not mine). So he takes the money and still gets a D-rating. Doesn’the change the fact he still took the money and did the favors. If you’re done trying to put a word in my original comment that doesn’the exist you can proceed to continue referring to your candidate (Sanders) as a whore. Enjoy.

  • Badgerite

    As are the berniebros!

  • Niki

    Sanders supporters.

  • MichaelC

    If you don’t know how these things work, listen up. Anyone invited by a presidential campaign to speak at a rally would have their remarks vetted by the staff. This guy artfully called HRC a corporate whore, thereby reinforcing the Bernie Bros. Bernie was then able to play the gentleman. And why is the Sanders campaign concerned only about disparaging Democrats and the Democratic Party? It’s a mirror image of everything Trump is saying on the other side.

  • James Barnes II

    Bernie is NOT a Nazi. The Nazis were evil but very organized. Bernie can’t even find his tax returns. The communist Cubans on the other hand…….Never mind…

  • James Barnes II

    Yes, most of us just got off of work. Got any FREE STUFF YET?

  • James Barnes II

    Nice….. You picked a third way to deflect from your candidates ridiculous behavior. The always reliable insult the people that are calling for civility. Actually I do respect the the fact that you are not even trying to defend Bernie Sanders on this subject. GOOD FOR YOU.. Cult are Bad

  • lordmj

    LOL. It is so outrageous to refer to politicians as corporate whores, or giving corporations “handjobs”, or “Deep throating the corporations”.

    So wrong in comparison to the fact we have a political system that is corrupt due to money in politics and a group of politicians that have gotten fat off of that system.

  • lordmj

    It is so outrageous to refer to politicians as corporate whores, or giving corporations “handjobs”, or “Deep throating the corporations”.

    So wrong in comparison to the fact we have a political system that is corrupt due to money in politics and a group of politicians that have gotten fat off of that system.

  • James Barnes II

    Well liberals don’t vote with the NRA against victims of mass shootings. A liberal wouldn’t vote against the Amber Alert system. Most liberals wouldn’t call female elected officials whores. Men that are liberals would not dare say a woman that is better educated with more experience is unqualified for the same job that they’re applying for. Liberals also would not vote against extending unemployment benefits during the worst Financial collapse in 50 years. And liberals generally do not answer “I DON’T KNOW” to important policy questions.

  • Fireblazes

    No, always demeaning, always wrong.

  • Fireblazes

    Parse, parse, parse….

  • Fiasco Linguini

    “I do not believe their apologies not even for 1 second.” = willful ignorance. Your demonization of Bernie makes you a prisoner of your own your mind.

  • Fireblazes

    I appreciate your articles John, long time fan, not a first time caller! The acrobatics that the #BernieBrats go to trying to justify irresponsible and false statements is like a full length “Cirque De Sanders” Las Vegas show

  • Fireblazes

    Who has? There is no clarity in your comment.

  • Fiasco Linguini

    It’s sad that people like you repeat falsehoods, and fill yourself full of hatred and anger based on these lies.

  • Fiasco Linguini

    What happened to Dems not being the crazy party? Apparently, you.

  • mremwo

    Notice they don’t actually defend the substance of the accusation. Poor choice of words, yes, but the meaning applies.

  • C Law

    What does the term mean to you?

  • C Law

    Been a Dem for over 40 years and I am sincerely disappointed in the party and establishment Dems. No way I will ever vote for Hillary who has caused a lot of problems around the world. As President Carter put mildly, she didn’t do much for Peace. In fact, she helped further destabilize the Middle East, gave a horrific warhawk AIPAC speech, voted for Cluster Bombing that kills tons of innocent civilians many children, helped overthrow a Democratic govt in Honduras leading to indigenous Environmental activists being assassinated, and so on. Hillary put National Security at risk for her own comfort and secrecy in maintaining a private server and now lies about that. If this is what the Democratic Party stands for, count me out. If Bernie wins the Primary I’ll hold out hope the party can be salvaged.

  • Voodoo Chile

    I’m guessing something like what happened at Blue Nation Review happened here.

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/03/07/hillary-clinton-s-hit-men-target-bernie-sanders-at-blue-nation-review.html

    I feel bad for Jon Green in all of this. He did a good job running the place when John Aravosis disappeared. Now he has to watch as John Aravosis turns this into a place where liberals are referred to as sexists, racists, communists, parasites, etc.

  • Voodoo Chile

    This is the level of cognitive ability of your average Hillary supporter. This unfortunate fellow right here can’t tell the difference between liberals and conservatives.

  • C Law

    The phrase “Corporate Whores” has been used for a long time because we have become a “Corporate Democracy”.

    corporate whore

    One who has sold more than their labor to the corporation; one who has
    forsaken personal values and constitution for corporate $$; meaning of
    “whore” belittled when preceded by the word “corporate”; person who will
    sell their soul for $$.

    My efforts are not driven by my passion for work, but by my own
    gluttony, my addition to money. I have become what I once
    despised—forsaken myself, sacrificed my values at the corporate alter of
    greed. I am a corporate whore.

  • C Law

    Washington Journal C-SPAN long discussion, worth watching on Hillary and FBI probe of her private server https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzA-NEmAQaQ

  • J.

    No shit. I made that point very clear in other comments.
    And you sound confused there. Maybe you should use that word one more time. It might really drive your point home.

  • C Law

    Have you seen comments by Hillary supporters? They were mercilessly picking on Dr. Jane Sanders over her hair, clothes,and weight. Today One of Hillary’s campaign managers refered to Bernie as a Nazi. I could go on, but open your eyes. Quit parroting the Bernie Bro thing

  • orogeny

    Um…according to Monica Lewinsky, she seduced Clinton. You don’t believe an attractive 22 year old woman can seduce an older man?

  • Cato the Elder

    Do you people actually WANT to see Bill in the WH with young female interns?

  • Cato the Elder

    Funny, somehow you don’t mind the phrase “typical angry old white man.” Secondly, HE did now say it. You are as informed as most of her supporters. HRC does nothing but take money from Wall St. If you have facts, yes, they are stubborn things, to prove the above, please post them.

  • Cato the Elder

    Wow, guess the hillarybots are out.

  • Cato the Elder

    I say the same thing about Steinem, Albright, and comments about how well he does in white states. This is same same bs you hear from these two old crackpots. Yet, young women REJECT HRC and support Bernie.

  • Cato the Elder

    Let’s see the numbers when they come in. “true” democrats? Sounds like you belong in the other party. I’ll match my credentials with you any day. And I am NOT a super delegate. I am an old white man who is about to retire and part of the two percent. She has so much baggage that people will have to wear gas masks to the polls.

  • Cato the Elder

    NO. Using the authority and power of the office of president to have sex with a young impressible woman in the White House does. Clear? If not, I can try to use monosyllabic words.

  • TiberiusB

    The word you’re struggling with is “hypocrisy”. If you do something while denouncing someone else for doing it, it is “hypocrisy”. If you knowingly make something up, it’s a “lie”. Hillary did get money from Wall Street and the oil industry. If you want to play fast and loose and claim that the vastly different amounts received by both campaigns is irrelevant and both candidates are wallowing in corporate cash, go for it. I might suggest looking up “false equivalency”, though. Regardless, the Sanders campaign didn’t lie.

  • Badgerite

    Shouldn’t you know what the hell you are talking about? And yet you don’t.
    But you bring up another things Sanders did that was beyond the pale and that was to use the voluminously discredited Spanish Inquisition Committee to fish around in and attack all things HRC as a means of weakening her as a candidate in the general.
    Sanders, at that point, stooped to their level. That was a bit of pandering that got him exactly nowhere. And I think he did that because he was believing the hype of his own campaign that he could manage to get Trump voters to switch to him.

  • FrankInSFO
  • FrankInSFO

    You need new talking points, or at least get better informed. Enlighten us with what national security laws she violated? Don’t say her email server. That has proven to be a yet again GOP-produced scandal. Are you that naive and gullible?

  • 2karmanot

    “who will NEVER vote for HRC.” Got that right!

  • 2karmanot

    Not a Democrat? Well, that a GOOD start!

  • James Barnes II

    Bernie Sanders supporters are no different than Donald Trump supporters. Trump and Bernie could call EVERY female in America a DIRT C7NT and their supporters will make excuses for 2 old white men’s bad behavior or change the subject to corporate greed. What happen to Democrats being the NOT CRAZY party. We Never should have let the old Senile SOB in the Party.

  • 2karmanot

    To me sluts have fun (waves hand) and whores are sensible business people.

  • Badgerite

    I like him. But I’m voting for Hilary Clinton. I think he has done a valuable thing this election cycle, given what is going on in the GOP. I will vote for Hilary Clinton though, whom I also like, because I think she is more qualified and would make the better president and I think has the better chance of winning and being successful as president. What recent events have shown me as that although I like Sanders as a person, his campaign, of late, I do not.
    In terms of party rules, they argue one way if it supports what they want and then turn around and argue the exact opposite if it would favor them. They complain that Clinton won in South Carolina which is not likely to go Democratic in the general election and then tout a Bernie caucus win in Wyoming and its whopping 3 electoral votes which are also likely to go to a Republican
    . Sanders has a bad day at the newspaper and his campaign manager comes out and blames Hilary Clinton for ISIS.
    Now, a speaker at a rally called her a “whore” which is waaaaay not progressive. So, I’m sorry but he can’t control his own campaign. How does he think he can control the Congress or the states or the courts or the administrative agencies, which are a lot bigger and more diverse?

  • Badgerite

    No, the articles were not ‘misleading’, She raised the same issues that her supporters and others have raised all along and that is that Sanders is short on the details of how he would get anything he promises done. And his response to what she said only points that out as true. If he hadn’t blown that NYDN interview, none of it would have happened. He did, and his reaction was to distract from that fact. Pure and simple. And, by the by, he has to get some votes in Congress if he wants to get anything at all done. That means working with people who get campaign donations or speaking fees from Wall Street. And your response, it seems to me, is disengenuous as well. Sanders came out at least and distanced himself from that kind of statement. And your response is to attack anyone who points out that that kind of ‘comment’ ( attack ) at a rally that is supposed to be ‘progressive’ is beyond the pale. And Sanders has to take responsibility for some of this as he has not bothered to reign in the more ridiculous and offensive crap that even people in his own campaign have said.

  • Voodoo Chile

    Do you realize that Bernie and whoever made the corporate whore remark aren’t the same people? John Aravosis is pretending like he doesn’t, so he can write propaganda headlines to confuse the easily confused

  • Voodoo Chile

    It’s true, you are not allowed to criticize party leaders. The new AmericaBlog is a safe space for authoritarians.

  • Mc Fire

    Shouldn’t Hilary take responsibility for violating national security laws? As a matter of fact, shouldn’t she be in jail?

  • Aida Gutierrez

    Bernie sanders also collects 45000 a year in social security too. (check his tax summary)

  • Dorapsis Psyllibarum

    pathetic hack…you are not funny…just pathetic and by your sorry attempt at humor reveal your own true character…calling people “ragheads”…attacking Hillary for her choice of clothing…and you call others ‘snark’?!? pathetic…

  • Voodoo Chile

    You are the kind of low information voter who would have complained about Al Gore’s beard, his color palette, and his voice. A superficial person like you would have voted for Bush because he seems like a nice guy to have a beer with.

  • Badgerite

    Whoever becomes the next president will have to take an oath to preserve protect and defend that country. If that involves military action, so be it. And Sanders would certainly not be immune. All it would take would be one successful attack like that one mounted in Paris to send the GOP and probably a good chunk of the country off into fits of impeachment and God knows what else. (see Korematsu v United States, which by the way, is still binding law)
    I will give you this, I like Bernie Sanders personally. Sooooo much better than some of the people the left have ‘fallen for’ before, like John Edwards of Alan Grayson. But as a candidate, not so much. He promises things he can’t possibly deliver. But at least he has raised the level of debate. I will give him that. And I didn’t think that was possible what with the GOP having a fascist meltdown this year.

  • 2karmanot

    You give me the creeps Woodchuck.

  • Voodoo Chile

    Anti semitism on the new authoritarian AmericaBlog. Can’t say I’m surprised…

  • Dorapsis Psyllibarum

    did he? the apology seems more along the lines that he’s sorry his words were recorded and shared on the internet, but his actual apology is the most un-apologetic possible!

  • Dorapsis Psyllibarum

    it’s becoming increasingly apparent that Bernie’s followers – mostly young white men – are misogynistic homophobic racists – hardly the ‘progressives’ they claim to be…

  • Dorapsis Psyllibarum

    you must be one of the bernbot ‘progressives’ that think it’s okay to call women whores…

  • 4wonderland

    Sanders is now headed to Rome. Not to meet with the Pope and not invited by anyone but a Jew pandering to the catholics in NY. Hopefully he can keep his followers from calling the women in Italy whores. This man is a disgrace and I am angry any woman would support him.

  • Dorapsis Psyllibarum

    must have struck a nerve since your best reply is a personal attack…

  • Badgerite

    Well, I find nothing unblue about calling the first female who has a shot at winning the presidency a “whore”. The guys ridiculous explanations aside, that is what he was doing. And Sanders was right to FINALLY disavow something his supporters were saying or doing. About F–king time.

  • Elizabeth Benyi

    I do not believe their apologies not even for 1 second. This is the nonstop rhetoric of the BernieBros

  • Polar Girl

    It can only be said by those who don’t play the gender card. Doing so forfeits the gender card in the PC game.

    Hillary needs to apologize to get her card back. Otherwise, Sanders supporters are free to use the term: Democratic Whores.

  • 2karmanot

    Oh Badgerite, you oh so Blue Dog. Somethings never change.

  • Dorapsis Psyllibarum

    pathetic! calling a woman a whore is just un-PC?!? It doesn’t matter how good your intentions might be if you are willing to do and say ANYTHING to get elected…#BERNT-OUT!

  • 2karmanot

    You seem quite the expert on dung, the old and dare I say it, ‘whores.’

  • Dorapsis Psyllibarum

    you are a filthy sexist pig – surprised you didn’t call her a whore!

  • Badgerite

    Gee. And the ‘Super’ Delegates don’t support him. I wonder why. There is a lack of message discipline that simply has to come from the top. For me, the Sanders campaign has veered off into territory that is simply not ‘progressive’ at all. And Sanders refuses to take any real responsibility for that. As he refused to take responsibility for his screw up of a news interview with the NYDN.

  • Dorapsis Psyllibarum

    when did BS abandon telling the truth? he LIES about Clinton taking Wall Street money when he does the same thing! He LIES about her taking oil and gas money when he does the same thing! BS is getting desperate, and it shows when his campaign starts calling Hillary a whore!
    Despicable! the BS campaign is just Trump in leftie-drag…

  • JB_Gator

    To be clear, her words and actions show that she supports his actions.

  • JB_Gator

    I agree that “revolution” might be a little too strong a word here. More so a correction or reform. The point is that unless you have someone who comes in with big Progressive ideas and the will to get them through, you’ll get nowhere. Obama faced severe obstructionism and yet he still managed to pass the Affordable Care Act because he really believed in it, and recently used executive orders to push through other policies.

    The only way to avoid an Obama-like situation of obstruction would be through replacing certain obstructionist Congressmen and Congresswomen. It has become more clear to voters that we dropped the ball with Obama, and if anyone could inspire voters to come back out in two years it would be Sanders. I’m not saying it definitely would happen, but with Clinton there’s virtually no chance of it happening. Besides, I don’t know that she’s really pushing for getting more progressive leaders in place – she seems content as long as they are democrats.

    I guess my point is that with Clinton I don’t see us making a move back from the right, based on her record and current stances. She just wouldn’t fight for it. On the other hand, she wouldn’t bolt to the far right like the Republicans want to, so there’s that, which is nice… right?

  • Dorapsis Psyllibarum

    the only ‘enthusiasm gap’ that matters is in the voting booth, and Clinton is ahead by over 2.4 millions votes! AND there’s is NO WAY for BS to catch up! no wonder BS is calling Hillary a whore! he’s desperate…

  • Antman573

    See ladies and gents, exhibit A. LOL. Now tighten that helmet so it can help aid you with bumping into walls.

  • 2karmanot

    Well, if the slut is shameful……just say’un.

  • Dorapsis Psyllibarum

    Calling your female opponent a ‘whore’ is despicable! Not particularly surprising given the level of lies and misinformation being spread like dung by the BS campaign, but revelatory of their true character and intentions. BS said he’d take the high road, guess he was referring to weed. BS attacks Clinton for taking Wall Street and Oil and Gas money when he’s done the same for years including 2016! Bernie Sanders is a typical angry old white man who only cares about his own pocketbook, and wants minorities and women and LGBT to stay in their place, or they get called whores!

  • Tax returns are most certainly not public record.

  • capemh

    First, we are not talking about Bill, however, holding the man who is a former President and wannabe First Spouse accountable for what he says is different from holding Sanders responsible for what a physician who was set up to speak before Sanders by the campaign, isn’t quite the same. And isn’t there a history of people using the term “political whore” to describe politicians who do things for money? Not that the Congress does much…

  • Jimbo2K7

    This place is turning into cheap-shot central.

    What is your problem, John. You were not always such a putz.

  • Jimbo2K7

    Likewise Hillary.

    Are you confused yet?

    Boo hoo.

  • 2karmanot

    Ah, emjayay it’s comforting to see that you are still on the wrong side of history as usual. Continuity is so conservatively stable.

  • Polar Girl

    Older taxes are public record.

    I’m sure Hillary’s opposition researcher (David Brock) would have no problem acquiring them. Just more posturing on the Clinton campaign’s part to deflect from not having to provide private information of huge public importance.

  • 2karmanot

    I agree with John…Hillary Durga is the ONE! She eats dead drone babies with Madeleine Alright and counts war corpses with her hero Kissinger. She will fix Obama Care by doing Nothing! She will champion women’s rights by declaring the Pantsuit a national costume. She will fix Social Security by waiting until the Baby Boomers die off. Her long range visionary cure for crumbling infrastructure and failing cities will be to create agra-metropolises, so poor folks can grow their own vegies and thus end the need for welfare. Those on welfare will be conscripted to work a term or two in private ‘camps’ that make armaments dedicated to wiping out terrorist ragheads in the Middle East and wherever Saudi Arabia decides is too kosher. Israel will become the 51 state and finally, what’s not to love about Killery? ……… well, you get the drift. In keeping with John’s hysterical low brow slanders of Sanders we declare Thursday, Snark Day.

  • We’re not just talking about 2015 taxes. That would be an unreasonably request, especially since most people at his income level have to file for extensions (the paperwork required often just can’t be put together by mid-April).

  • The GOP has basically ignored Sanders. They don’t see him as a threat. Once they unleash that, we’d be looking at an electoral college map similar to 1972 (or 1984 if you prefer). Most of the country is somewhere in the middle. I would love to see the Democrats embrace some of Bernie’s ideas but some are just never going to get out of Congress and it is puzzling to see otherwise intelligent people tell me what Bernie is going to do when there’s no way to get those proposals into law. There is no revolution coming. Perhaps a move back from the right, but nothing even close to a revolution.

  • J.

    Ah, so it’s a point you can’t make. That’s why you refuse to answer my question and instead resort to insults.

  • 2karmanot

    Don’t quit your day job sweet pea.

  • lordmj

    I also want to add, in some cases Democratic legislators are in effect happily eager to be corporate shills.

    In other cases though, there are Democratic legislators that want to do the right thing, but they are literally captive to the fundraising process and either don’t want to rock the boat or alienate the donors.

    The only fix is to fix the parties dependency on big money. I think it is possible to do this, the party leadership does not.

  • 2karmanot

    Couldn’t agree more!

  • 2karmanot

    exactly so

  • lordmj

    I should say in modern history then. The current money in politics issue is 40 some years old. The core issue around it has not been addressed in a serious way until this campaign.

    Previous campaigns have touched on it at a high level. But there hasn’t been an election in modern history where were talking about, “The money in politics issue is influencing and corrupting the politics of the Democratic party.” You can not realistically fix money in politics (via Congress anyway) without addressing the its impact on the Democratic party itself.

  • lordmj

    I voted in the elections.

    The fact remains that you can’t expect young people to vote for candidates that do not inspire them. The reason why young voters are inspired this time is because they have been organizing to fight against politics as dictated by the political establishment (ie donors).

    Keep in mind the Bernie movement pre-dates the actual Bernie campaign. If you recall they were trying to recruit Elizabeth Warren before Bernie ran.

    People are rallying around candidates like Tim Canova in the primaries for example. The Young people are deeply knowledgable about the issues, particularly about money in politics. What they are apathetic about is the politicians and the party.

    Lets also remember that the election laws are structured by the parties, based on the party leadership’s interests. Furthering increasing apathy among young voters about the process.

  • orogeny

    You might want to read some history…you’d be surprised at what you’ll learn. Read about populism, vested interests, Big Mules…the list you could consider studying goes on and on.

  • orogeny

    LOL!!! Y’all didn’t vote in the primaries either. That’s what really irritates people like me. I’ve spent 40+ years working for Liberal politicians and policies, voted in every election (including the primaries) since 1972, and suddenly people like you, who haven’t bothered at all suddenly think they know everything and people like me are just corrupt, bought -out establishment dopes. And you expect us to just bow to your superior knowledge and gasp in awe at your purity.

    Bless your hearts…

  • lordmj

    It’s true.

    I mean in the past politicians have thrown accusations about each other being “corporate whores” as it were.

    This is the first time that the core issue, that the politicians of both parties are beholden to donors and that the legislature is bought by donors has been made front and center. It would be impossible for anyone running for office to consider themselves a responsible candidate to NOT highlight it.

  • orogeny

    Check the actual polling numbers, and you’ll find that the “enthusiasm gap” doesn’t actually exist, at least not in the way you Bernie fans think it does.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/04/07/bernie-sanders-hillary-clinton-and-the-endless-useless-enthusiasm-debate/

  • lordmj

    What the GOP is going through is a similar phenomenon but who they are running to is different.

    A large reason why people haven’t voted in the past midterms is because the Dems ran bad candidates in the midterms.

  • Polar Girl

    Thank you. I stand corrected.

    Bernie has until Monday to file what will eventually be public record, unlike Hillary’s speeches.

  • orogeny

    The way you use the term “Democrats,” as though it was something other than what you are, says a lot.

  • JB_Gator

    Very true. She is only responsible for how she personally responds/reacts to what he does, and whether or not she supports it through her words and actions.

  • orogeny

    “this is the first election that the issue of the parties being bought off my big money interests has been at the forefront before.”

    Pardon my laughter…

  • JB_Gator

    Look, I agree with you that this was the intent of the statement, but I do *see* how it can be easily interpreted as a sexist comment since it is usually women that the term “whores” is used as a derogatory term towards.

  • orogeny

    The very fact that you’d compare what the Republicans are going through to the Dem’s primary shows how little you understand the process.

    But I’ll say this…I hope that what you’re saying does indeed happen. But, excuse me if I have a bit of trouble believing that the young Bernie fans, who haven’t even bothered to vote in the past are going to suddenly become all that politically active.

  • JB_Gator

    Actually April 18th is the deadline this year, since Emancipation Day is being recognized on the 15th (it is actually on the 16th) and the IRS and other public employees have the day off.

  • orogeny

    Oh come on…what a crock. The speaker referred to “Democratic corporate whores.” Sanders himself has indicated that taking corporate money puts a politician into that category. So, it follows that Sanders is saying that the vast majority, if not all Democrats are “corporate whores.”

    Do I think that simply taking corporate money makes a politician corrupt? Of course not. Barack Obama is NOT corrupt, and he…like all politicians…takes corporate money for his campaign. Are there corrupt politicians? Of course there are. But not the number of them that the holier-than-thou BernieBros claim.

  • JB_Gator

    “When a candidate invites someone up on the stump to introduce them, they own what comes out of their mouth.”

    I would tend to agree with this.

    My issue is that we have on the Sanders side, some things that were not good things to say, like the corporate whores comment. Almost all of which have been clarified or apologized for.

    And then we have on the Clinton side people who say things like:
    – There’s a special place in hell for women who don’t support women
    – BLM is just trying to protect those who kill black lives
    – Young women only support Sanders to meet boys
    – Calling Obama’s terms an “awful legacy”
    – That whole tone-deaf CP time thing

    All statements that have neither been owned or apologized for. Bill even went so far as to say “I almost want to apologize” which means he really did speak his mind and meant it, but is only worried that it made the Clintons look bad.

    All I want is some balance. The media hounds the Sanders campaign for pretty much anything, but lets the Clintons slide almost all the time.

  • Polar Girl

    Tomorrow is the filing deadline for taxes so Bernie is not yet releasing what may not yet exist.

    The Goldman Sachs speeches were given years ago hence the past unlike the tax returns which are the future.

  • Webster

    The point has obviously flown so far above your head that it will burn up on reentry into the atmosphere.

  • emjayay

    Not arguing really, but Washington Square is in the middle of everything and the Bronx is, well, in the Bronx. I didn’t go to the Bernie rally because I could probably pretty much make up his speech and get it 90% right.

  • orogeny

    So, a female who enjoys sex is a sexist as well? Or does that only apply to men? Isn’t that, in and of itself, sexist?

  • kladinvt

    You know, these Aravosis negative-Bernie diatribes were funny at first, but now they just seem desperate. And they do nothing to dispel the fact that Hillary suffers from an enormous “enthusiasm-gap”. Just witness her rally in the Bronx yesterday that attracted 1300 people compared to Bernie’s Washington Sq rally that brought out 27,000. I don’t even think using “fear of Trump” will be enough to do much for voter turnout in November, if she’s forced on us as the DNC nominee.

  • emjayay

    “a left over flower child from the 1960s” Hey, I resemble that remark.

    But I always had I think a more complex and nuanced view of things, back then as well as now, than the exclusively Marxist more political types like Sanders. As always, there was a range of those in the counterculture, from the pure flower utopian commune types on one side to the Karl Marx acolyte politico ones on the other. Most were some combination, and Bernie seems like he has always been more on the Marxist side.

    And unlike most he doesn’t seem to have changed a bit over the decades, and neither does his whining excuse making wife. (No fair to bring a spouse into it, but she has been acting as his surrogate, and he referred to her as his “spokesman”. Yes, spokesman. See what I mean?)

  • Mischa Pierce

    Shall we look at how many black people are locked up in New York under Andrew Cuomo and Bill DeBlasio? BTW, Bernie is not a governor.

  • Mischa Pierce

    You mean like Steinem and Albright’s comments about women, or Hillary accusing Bernie of wanting to repeal Obamacare or blaming him for the Sandy Hook shooting?

  • JB20010

    How about the time she said that having the blackest states in the country vote first “distorts reality”?

    Wait, that was Bernie.

  • Mischa Pierce

    More of that sexist “BernieBros” crap. Guess you with denounce that just like Clinton won’t disavow Steinem and Albright’s comments about women.

  • Mischa Pierce

    You’re right. If only we could all be Democrats who oppose single-payer, side with management over unions and support overseas wars and Neoliberal trade deals like NAFTA, TPP, etc. like all the Clintonite New Democrats do…..

  • Mischa Pierce

    Who said it was specifically women? Most politicians are men, so most “corporate whores” are MEN.

  • Mischa Pierce

    Technically the majority of the people Paul Song was referring to would be men since most politicians are men. This desperate tactic of faux outrage from the Hillary camp is the kind of “Lazy Liberal Outrage Culture” Bill Maher decries.

  • goulo

    So no actual response to my question? You’re unable to explain what specifically you think was bad about the statement?

    You are very indignant and angry that a Sanders supporter said “corporate whore” to denigrate someone, but you don’t mind that John himself has used “whore” to denigrate someone in various posts?

    How does this not smack of hypocritical “It’s BAD when someone I dislike does it, but perfectly fine when someone I like does it?” and mass internet faux outrage?

  • TiberiusB

    Straw man alert. No one said all Democrats were corporate tools. Too many, for sure, but not all. Isn’t the Democratic Party for honest, clean politics? Shouldn’t they be for getting corporate influence out of Congress? Are you arguing that Bernie should just accept the system of legalized bribery because backing the Party, which is apparently fine with the status quo, is more important then backing the principle? Are people like Rahm Emanuel and Debbie Wasserman Shultz shining examples of what we should expect from Democrats? This is a really disturbing thread I find in many attacks on the Sanders campaign, that he should effectively shut up and play along. What does Hillary mean when she says she isn’t sure if Bernie is even
    really a Democrat? What does Avarosis mean when he says Bernie isn’t a
    Democrat and doesn’t like Democrats? Hmmm, unscrupulously accusing
    people of disloyalty, that seems so very retro, almost 1950’s-esque.

    Here’s a simple question, do Hillary supporters think the message, forget the phrasing, is legitimate or not? Are too many Democrats in Congress (do we really need to ask about the GOP side?) compromised by their reliance on corporate money?

  • Mischa Pierce

    Or watching Hillbots use sexist slurs like “BernieBros”. Or racist things like defending the Crime Bill and “Superpredators”.

  • JB_Gator

    I’m going to go with they purposely write that headline to mislead anyone who just ran across the title.

    Clickbait works – to get attention and spread half-truths and misinformation.

  • Fiasco Linguini

    You are describing the “bully pulpit” policy of Teddy Roosevelt. Instead of preemptively compromising as Obama has done, Teddy would call out the corrupt by name and hold their feet to the fire in front of the whole country. This is what I expect Bernie to do. This is what Bernie has done in the many speeches he’s given to mostly empty rooms, ignored by the media, for years. But as POTUS, and with the political revolution of citizen involvement, he will be rather hard to ignore.

  • Mischa Pierce

    Womanizing does. Can’t believe Hillbots are reduced to using womanizing to prove you’re not a sexist.

  • JB_Gator

    I honestly believe the only way to have a revolution is to get Bernie Sanders into office. This accomplishes a few things:

    1. We finally have a progressive in office.
    2. An ‘outsider’ becomes our president. This puts the DNC on notice. With the clear message that ‘business as usual’ politicians aren’t what the people want and with Bernie in office we can begin to reform the process.
    3. With the current Trump/Cruz situation, the Rep is poised to lose the 2016 election. This should bring about some change as well.
    4. Sanders has shown he can engage more voters in the process – if he keeps up this energy towards the mid-term elections, we can also vote in a more progressive Congress. Berniecrats, as some call them.
    5. The Democratic party can move back towards the progressive ideals they once had, rather than supporting wars and corporate greed nearly as much as Republicans. This is the only way to “burn the party to the ground” and remake it – by having the then-leader move the party and country in this direction.
    6. But really, we’d FINALLY have a progressive in office.

    I also think that Trump/Cruz in office would be disastrous for any Progressive or Liberal. Not only do they have some truly disturbing policy positions, but I don’t think it would burn the Dem party to the ground. The DNC would likely try to use this as an opportunity to cement the idea that we can only nominate someone who is an establishment politician or else. And that having any challenge to this is why they lost. Though the only chance Cruz or Trump have any of winning is if they run against Clinton, so on second thought that argument wouldn’t really hold water.

    If you’ve been following the coverage for some time, you’ll see that the Sanders campaign has only recently become more critical of HRC – after his Wisconsin win and leading up to this NY Primary. The tension always builds before NY, but the Clinton camp has been ramping up attacks (personal and otherwise), to which he can either respond to (and be told to watch his tone) or not respond to (and take the negative press and people calling him weak). It’s really a no-win for him in this regard. Realize that I’m talking about the campaigns themselves, not the supporters – you’ll have vocal annoyances on any side of any contest. IMO, the campaigns and their positions are what should matter – I don’t care if there are Berniebots or Hillbots – Bernie or Hillary is what matters and to me it is clear who has been better in this regard.

    But if we’re honestly just talking policies, I think Sanders wins hands-down. his record has been more consistent and more consistently on the right side of history.

  • lordmj

    The GOP has their own civil war right now. The GOP base voter is as disgusted with their politicians representing the donors as the Democratic base voters are.

    Also even if Bernie loses the nomination, the threat of primarying these congressional democrats will continue to get more real the more people get organized to fight back against the corruption. Legitimately the only thing that can stop that from happening is voter apathy.

  • Mischa Pierce

    I thought Democrats complained about competitors running as Independents like Ralph Nader. Now you don’t want them running in the Democratic ticker? Make up your mind.

  • AndyinChicago

    Look, We get that you support Hillary, John. I think that questioning your opinion is a bit silly on here; you’re allowed to vote and support whoever you want, and you’ve more than earned that right. But these recent posts are unbecoming. There are huge differences between the
    two candidates based on policy. Let’s talk about those. If you’re a
    Hillary supporter, I’d be much more swayed by her recent speech on Environmental Justice than looking through the words of a candidate’s supporters. It stings with a bit of hypocrisy.

    Here’s why it’s hypocritical: Bernie never said democratic whore. Yes, his supporter did, and he should have denounced it, but if we are counting what supporters say as the candidate, then the articles about Hillary never calling Bernie unqualified are more than misleading. You can’t have it both ways and claim journalistic integrity of any kind.

    It’s upsetting to hear Bernie supporters call Democrats favoring Hillary the enemy or evil, but it’s just as if not more upsetting to hear Hillary supporters whine about Bernie Bros and then in the next sentence declare all Bernie supporters naive or sexist. You like Hillary? Talk about her perceived experience internationally and how it will help maintain America’s reputation abroad, talk about her more realizable health care plan, or talk about her being more steady leadership for the party. And don’t fall into this childishness if someone points out her ties with Wall Street, her absolute hawkishness and aggressive policies in the Middle East, her inconsistent history on minority rights, and her tepid support for meaningful reform.

    This kind of churlishness is unbecoming. This pettiness is really disappointing. What happened to taking the higher road and being the adult in the room? When was that strategy abandoned?

  • Shoot4themoon

    You make me smile.

  • Shoot4themoon

    Okay. You win.

  • goulo

    You don’t have to go back 4 years to find an obscure wacko saying it to find an example. You can find John saying it about men in Americablog.

  • woodymcbreairty

    At first I liked Sanders but now he gives me the creeps. That face, that voice, that creepy arm & finger waving. He’s become a caricature of himself, a pathetic ranting angry old man, a left over flower child from the 1960s, anti society & anti government & waiting for a “revolution” that will give him free things & make him happy. Sanders did not collect an pay check until he was pushing 40m& since has been living off the taxpayer’s dime & even now failing to do the job he was elected to do & is being paid to do. He is as much of a freeloader as those he attacks & is a 40 year part of the establishment that he claims to hold in contempt. What has he been doing for the last 40 years besides ranting & raving against the system he is such a part of. He has accomplished absolutely nothing & is a plastic phony as well as a raving mad man

  • lordmj

    Well this is the first election that the issue of the parties being bought off my big money interests has been at the forefront before.

    It’s the core issue effecting out country right now. Anyone NOT highlighting it would be grievously irresponsible.

  • Fiasco Linguini

    What a cop-out. No surprise. And no, most people don’t just focus on the insult and ignore the substance if they have any substantial response to give. The fact that you play such games to avoid addressing the issues indicates you have no substantial response.

  • goulo

    Seriously? You’re not allowed to critique or complain about your own party?

    That’s like nationalists who claim you’re not allowed to criticize anything about your own country.

    No way do I want to be in a party (or any other group) which refuses to permit criticism from within.

  • dannythetrucker

    My forehead is gonna be bruised if I keep talking to you. Working to create the change I believe in = always. Currently running for office = no. I would be an awful candidate, much more effective with my time, money generated from private sector income streams, and behind the scenes involvement. Now don’t go saying I never taught you anything. You thought a person had to run for office to create change, now you know better.

  • I agree that she needs to release the texts of those speeches (or video if any is available).

    Also, Bernie needs to release his tax returns.

    We need far more transparency from all our candidates and elected officials. It’s not like they don’t know these requests are coming.

  • orogeny

    Hasn’t Bernie continued to run as and insist that he is now a Democrat?

  • J.

    What conclusions are that?

  • J.

    If Clinton is held accountable for everything her campaign people (Bill) says, Bernie should be too.

  • J.

    The fact that you have to add the adjective “male” behind a word means that that original word does only refer to women. You just proved your point wrong.

  • J.

    You do realize that Bill and Hillary aren’t the same person, right? And Hillary is in no way responsible for what her husband (a totally separate person) does outside of her campaign.

  • Polar Girl

    The economy is the central issue since no other issues like environmentalism or civil rights can go forward until the government is no longer corporate owned.

    Hillary Clinton should release the transcripts of her Goldman Sachs speeches so a substantial debate about that master issue can commence.

  • Shoot4themoon

    So then you’re actively running for office? You’re working to create the change in which you believe?

  • aschops

    I feel a bit gaslighted right now. Hillbots have passed months remembering everyone Sanders isn’t officially a Democrat. You have no right to complain Sanders isn’t, well, in line with the Democrats, now.

  • milbank

    Wow, you had to go back 4 years with some obscure whacko saying it to find an example.

  • aschops
  • Shoot4themoon

    When those two words are “Deomocratic whore” then yes, I tend to tune out. Most people do when they’re being insulted. This is why it’s important to choose your words carefully and be mindful of their impact, especially if you’re attempting to convince people of your point of view.

  • Shoot4themoon

    Most people tend to focus on the insult rather than the substance, which, I know, would invalidate 99.9% of Internet comment sections, but it a fact of human behavior. If you sincerely want me to listen to what you have to say don’t insult me, convince me.

  • Shoot4themoon

    Women know exactly what he meant, consciously or subconsciously. It’s a dog whistle and we heard it loud and clear.

  • Shoot4themoon

    The moment you begin insulting the other person is the moment you’ve utterly lost the argument.

  • Agreed. Most of the country is frustrated and angry. I am too. But we should focus that anger at the causes and not just whatever target is in front of us at any given time.

    I also agree with you about the Clintonistas. They annoy the crap out of me too. As do the Berniebots. Everyone needs to take a time out and come back ready to talk on topic and not just rant. There’s a lot of ranting and not a lot of productive conversation this year. My annoyance at everyone is why I was undecided until a couple of weeks before my state’s primary. What a mess we have this year, and one both parties’ leaderships have coming. I’m just afraid that what we are going to get is the opposite of what some are intending.

    See the message below about burning the Democratic Party to the ground. Is 4-8 years of Cruz or Trump going to really bring about that revolution? The one leftists have ached for since before I was born but never seems to come? Or will moderates move to the party that is functional even if barely so?

  • By that logic they are all terrible so why bother?

    I don’t like playing any cards. I’m sick of identity politics. Let’s talk about issues for a change or is that too much to ask.

  • That revolution isn’t coming. Burn the party down? That will leave nothing.

    If you are for reforming the primary process, I agree. It’s confusing and undemocratic. That’s true of both parties. But complaints about rules that adversely affect the candidate you support just come off as sour grapes. After the election is the time to try to change the rules for 2020. They aren’t going to be changed mid-election.

    I’m not a Clinton fan. I voted for her as the best of my options for this year. I’ve made the same selection in every election since I turned 18.

    Burn the party to the ground? You’re not going to get a better outcome after a loss. You’re going to get worse. People seemed to think that in 2000 as well. How did that work out?

  • JB_Gator

    Personal attacks aren’t really ever useful, but TBH I think a lot of Bernie supporters are frustrated and angry about being minimized or ignored by more major news outlets. And HRC and her supporters mirror this and can have a condescending tone, which makes things worse.

  • orogeny

    Exactly!

  • orogeny

    LOL!!! Yeah, they’re gonna be scared to death of that. It’s a silly argument anyway. Sanders isn’t going to come close to winning the nomination, and if by some bizarre, freak accident, he did, the Republican Party will stake off the kid gloves that they’ve been handling him with and tear him to shreds. You can point to polls that show him running well, but those poll s are a direct result of the Repubs laying off…not saying anything bad about him…because they WANT to run against him. They’ll paint him as the latest reincarnation of Josef Stalin and middle America will run the other way. You and I know that’s not the case, but Joe and Jane Six-pack aren’t going to care about the definition of a Democratic Socialist.

  • Aida Gutierrez

    It’s fine if you want to complain about the Democrats and what you claim they do. Just don’t call yourself a Democrat or call your leader a Democrat.

  • lordmj

    Well HE didn’t use the term whore.

    But pretending that we don’t have a corrupt system or that the party is corrupted by money in politics is foolish.

    “You honestly think that a Presidential candidate can run a campaign that specifically calls the Representatives of his own political part corrupt corporate whore can expectant those same representatives to suddenly fall in line to support his programs if he happens to get elected.”

    Well if Bernie is elected, they better fall in line to support his programs. If the refuse to do so because they are butthurt and offended about being called corrupt then they may find themselves primaried in 2 years. Then they can be all offended while they sit at home (or more likely on K street).

  • capemh
  • JB20010

    The true Democrats haven’t been voting for Bernie, bro.

    Why do you think he does so poorly in states with closed primaries (trails NY by 10-13 points currently)?

    Let me guess, argle bargle, establishment, argle bargle.

  • Cato the Elder

    You are right. People like the Kochs do SUCH great stuff. You really need to read more about what the founding fathers would have thought of this. And BTW, Bernie is doing it with small donations.

  • Sarah brownstone

    Well, not really because this works two ways. If I called you a bitch but my intended meaning was dog then if you got all upset you would be the one propagating the conception that this was an insult. If I called you a bitch and really ment it as an insult, you could interpret that as me calling you a dog and laugh about what’s wrong with being called female dog. in that case, if I ment it as an insult it would be me propagating the negative connotation. Anyway, these are all semantics and getting all nit picky but all I’m really trying to say is that there are multiple definitions of the word whore and if the intention was to use it in the money hungry sense the people having a fit about it are the ones making it a negitive thing. Also, in addition in some cultures, in some times a woman who received money for sex was considered sacred. The sacred whore. So receiving sex for money is not inherently bad anyway. So even if someone called me a whore I wouldn’t really be upset anyway.

  • Cato the Elder

    Alright, Steinem, HRC own remarks. Will never vote for her. 4 years of a cretin? We did that with bush. did 8 in fact. out of the rumble the TRUE democratic party. Not one run by corporate whores

  • capemh
  • orogeny

    Does liking sex with women constitute sexism?

  • orogeny

    You honestly think that a Presidential candidate can run a campaign that specifically calls the Representatives of his own political part corrupt corporate whores can expectant those same representatives to suddenly fall in line to support his programs if he happens to get elected.

    You people think like children, with no grasp of how the world or politics works.

  • JB20010

    Bernie apologized for it already.

    Yet you insist on defending it.

    Why?

  • Cato the Elder

    Oh, please get a grip. Sexism? BILL CLINTON? SEXISM? Seriously. The guy cannot keep it in his pants. What do we call this, the Foundation to Advance Women? The party needs to move forward with Bernie, not back with Hillary. I am not voting for or against her because of her lady parts.

  • JB20010

    Panty-twisting.

    Keep it classy, Bernfeelers.

  • I remember when Democrats took money only from the people and unions, and were not #CorporateWhores. All this panty-twisting over because one man is not afraid to stand up to Wall Street and Corporate America and another man uses an un-PC word to tell the truth. Taking money from Wall Street and other Big Money Special Interests is the problem here and yeah, it’s not a pretty word, but the shoe fits entirely too many politicians.

  • lordmj

    “If you are running under the standard of the Democratic Party, and expect to work with Congress to get all the amazing stuff you have promised your sycophants enacted, Don’t you think that calling the people that you are going to HAVE to have on your side to get any of that done is pretty damned stupid?”

    No. These are the people that are the PROBLEM. Pretending that they are not the problem is the reason we have gotten into this mess in the first place. Money in politics has corrupted our system, and the Democratic party.

    “If Bernie thinks the Democrats are all corporate whores, then running as a Democrat and expecting the support of the Democratic Party is king of…hypocritical.”

    What? So if the party is corrupted, running to change the party and change the system is hypocritical?

  • capemh
  • Antman573

    How to confuse Bernie supporters? Ask for specifics and inundate them with basic math. So how do Mr. Sanders plan on implementing his policies when it will most likely be a Republican controlled Congress and Senate? And again tell us what is his strategies to win enough delegates again? We will wait while you pout and while reality sets in. I know, “revolutions” lol.

  • capemh
  • orogeny

    Show me another Presidential candidate in history who has had ANY success by running his own Party…against the people in Congress that he’ll need to work with.

  • Polar Girl

    If you are going to call out Bernie Sanders for the content of his unscripted supporters’ speeches, you need to reconcile Hillary’s slut shaming first you hypocrite. Remaining silent on slut shaming while condemning Sanders is implying approval of her deeds.

    Hillary Clinton needs to reconcile that first before she ir any of her supporters have thecright to play the gender card on anyone including Donald Trump.

  • orogeny

    If you are running under the standard of the Democratic Party, and expect to work with Congress to get all the amazing stuff you have promised your sycophants enacted, Don’t you think that calling the people that you are going to HAVE to have on your side to get any of that done is pretty damned stupid?

    If Bernie thinks the Democrats are all corporate whores, then running as a Democrat and expecting the support of the Democratic Party is kind of…hypocritical.

  • capemh
  • JB20010

    Another bro checks in to mansplain what “whore” really means.

    Thanks dude.

  • lordmj

    “Whore” while not the right language to use, has been in use for a long time in political connotations basically referring to someone that has sold out to special interests.

  • Cheydancer

    Senator Sanders apologized.

    “Earlier Thursday morning, Clinton communications director Jennifer
    Palmieri called upon Sanders to “disavow” the language, which Song had
    already done himself.

    Thursday morning Sanders said, “Dr. Song’s comment was inappropriate and
    insensitive. There’s no room for language like that in our political
    discourse.” Song also apologized via Twitter, saying, “I am very sorry
    for using the term ‘whore’ to refer to some in congress who are beholden
    to corporations and not us. It was insensitive.””

    http://realtimepolitics.com/2016/04/14/bernie-sanders-apologizes-for-democratic-whore-comment-at-rally/

    Not that I suppose this will be the last inappropriate comment from supporters on either side.

  • lordmj

    So someone running against the money in politics in both parties is supposed to pretend that the Democratic legislators are all perfectly fine?

    The whole reason for Bernie’s campaign to begin with is that congressional democrats are by and large bought by big corporations.

  • Cato the Elder

    Well, I find HRC’s comments about him winning states with white populations insulting. Why is that different from comments about states with black populations (generally in states that do not vote for democrats in the general election) I would rather see trump in for 4 years and burn the party down so it can be rebuilt. The thought of bill back i the WH makes me sick. As do super delegates.

  • JB20010

    Watching Bernie Bros try and mansplain it away is just painful.

  • capemh

    Who did he say it to? Has Senator Sanders or anybody else heard him say this, outside his family and friends? It’s just a metaphor, anyway, one that has been used time and time again against men and women. Tempest in a teapot.

  • Cato the Elder

    So media whores only applies to women? We talk about people in the company who like to travel as travel whore? Plug in.

  • Cato the Elder

    Albright, Steinem, etc, etc.

  • I voted for Hillary. (I’m not sure I’m a supporter but I did vote for her.) I also think Bernie should stay in until the last primary or caucus. Debating the issues and ideas is always good. The personal attacks (from both camps) is not useful at all and is likely to turn off voters. I don’t know why people (in both parties supporting any candidate) don’t get this.

  • Susie

    Maybe they should borrow Hillary’s wind machine. Or charge outrageous $ to hear. Certainly wouldn’t want to release any record of what was said.

  • I didn’t say that. I never said anything at all like that.

  • doug dash

    Who the fuck is Kashish?

  • Pamela Anne Nolan

    This situation highlights the SEXISM Hillary Clinton has to contend with!! #DemocraticWhores

  • orogeny

    Song’s words: “I have said this about Congress for years.”

    Sanders thinks it’s appropriate to run AGAINST “Democratic whores in Congress.” You don’t see that as a problem for the man who is supposedly running to be the leader of the Democratic Party?

  • NaphiSoc

    NEWSFLASH: Neither Kashish nor Sanders will be nominees

  • NaphiSoc

    total class calling Hillary Clinton a whore.
    I see you are totally a Bernie person.

  • JB_Gator

    I will counter that by saying first that sometimes I really don’t understand it either. But I also don’t understand the tone-deafness of the Clinton campaign (Hillary, Bill, and surrogates) and supporters. I mean, pretty much every time Bill speaks it is offensive (and he doesn’t apologize) and I have met some pretty nasty supporters online. HRC herself has had some pretty tone-deaf POC moments, especially lately. And then there’s Madeleine Albright…

    And I had to answer, sorry in advance:

    – Black states DO matter in the Primary, unfortunately not as much in the general because most are red states. Bernie really needed to start earlier if he wanted a chance in the South in the primary.
    – Calling women whores, not ok. Collectively calling a group of men and women ‘whores’.. well I see why this could be problematic still.
    – Some do, some don’t.
    – No. Maybe? But I would honestly ask the same of HRC supporters who don’t see her record/judgement or current criminal investigation by the FBI as problematic. The latter will be a huge issue in the primary if she gets the nomination, regardless of the outcome. The former is one of the reasons I am not sure I like her.

    To be clear, I’m 100% a Bernie supporter. I think Hillary would be better than any of the potential Republican nominees, but I still really *really* want Bernie to win. Yes, each have their flaws, but I think that the judgement of the next President and what they’ll fight for is far more important than if some of their supporters are offensive.

  • Brian G. Mueller

    So, Bernie Sanders speaks out against the statement that you find abhorrent, and you STILL find a way to interpret it negatively. SMH

  • capemh

    Long record? Explain.

  • Polar Girl

    But slut shaming is OK. Get over yourself.

  • orogeny

    Isn’t Sanders the one who decided to have a speaker who has a long record of these types of statements speak at his rally?

  • JB_Gator

    Well a brief 30 second fact check shows that Bernie Sanders doesn’t think this at all.
    Maybe next time?

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/04/14/speaker_at_sanders_rally_calls_hillary_clinton_a_corporate_democratic_whore.html

  • alice

    It’s not a big secret that mainstream media is left-leaning, and that HRC is the legitimate frontrunner in this race. It doesn’t do any good to promote negative news around a frontrunner of your party. The Democratic Party needs to work on uniting, not dividing.

    Which is why a story like HRC willingly participating in a racist joke w/ de Blasio gets almost no coverage, and a story like Sanders misusing “quote unquote” is on full blitz for two days. It’s why the toughest questions HRC was asked about her “colored people” joke came from Cosmo. It’s why she can get away with responding “Look, ask de Blasio. It was his skit.” But Sanders is still making headlines about this “whore” stuff even after both Song and Sanders swiftly apologized.

    I get that you’re tired of these “Bernie Bros” crying about the negative press, but you also need to take an objective stance on the type of news coverage both candidates are receiving. The slightest Sanders misstep is inflated, while larger HRC missteps are reduced to nonstories.

    I dont think you’re being a sheep (I hate that word). But I don’t think you’re analyzing the coverage objectively.

    For instance: ask yourself how the media would’ve handled it if Trump participated in the same “colored people” joke. Bias and Incentive exists. Always has. Always will.

  • gaylib

    NYPD says 11,500.

  • gaylib

    LOL 50K? Have you seen the photos? Everytime a Bernie Bro mentions the rally the numbers go up. You guys are pathetic. BTW, Obama drew 24K in 08. Still lost to Hillary by 17 points. This is Bernie’s last week on the trail. Enjoy it while you can.

  • And to be clear (although this should go without saying), even though I voted for Hillary I’m well aware that she’s not perfect. I also don’t think Bernie is some kind of monster. I actually like both of them and made a choice based on who I thought would do best in the general election and who would be a better president. We don’t have to hate on one and ignore the faults of the other in an election.

  • JB20010

    When a candidate invites someone up on the stump to introduce them, they own what comes out of their mouth.

    Bernie was a gentleman, and apologized for it.

    But his online followers keep trying to defend the indefensible.

  • capemh

    Evidently, if you represent the hopes people have and have a good campaign plan, you will get the money you need to run your campaign, even if it is in small amounts. If the candidates are more concerned about the conditions in our country than the condition of their bank accounts, if they consider holding office as a public service and not a way to become one of the top .001 percent, you can win.

  • How about we not accuse Sanders of being guilty of saying something that even the person who spoke didn’t say.

    All over the media we have what are supposed to be respectful democratic senators and congresspeople saying this morning that Bernie called Hillary a whore.

    I am sorry but Sanders made a statement, and when the senator on the tv demanded he offer one, and the talking head told her he did, she actually said “Well he should have done it sooner. Immediately in fact. ”

    What? Can we stop this? Democrats just came out in droves to prove that they are indeed democratic whores.

  • capemh

    Did the person writing the title not know that it wasn’t Senator Sanders who used the term whore or did they purposely write that headline to mislead anyone who just ran across the title?

    I agree, it isn’t being a whore to take money in campaign contributions for what is, at best, known as access. Now, I am sure that it’s not illegal to do and it isn’t as straightforward of a transaction as you would find in prostitution either, but what do you expect in return if you spend tens of thousands to millions in campaign contributions? Good governance and eliminating the wealth disparity in this country? Help for the middle class? Controls on too big to fail banks and the derivative markets? Judges who don’t consider corporations “people” and think strong unions as necessary counterweights to the power of large multinationals?

  • Aida Gutierrez

    27k

  • Aida Gutierrez

    me neither, nope, unbelievable, yes, sorry for answering them.

  • JB20010

    Whore has always been a gendered insult “Mitchell”.

    Even Bernie has apologized for it.

    You don’t have even a fig leaf of cover for defending it.

  • Aida Gutierrez

    He has divided the party. Because of him there are a bunch of left minded people who will NEVER vote for HRC. He also keeps saying that he is going to continue this until the convention, Trump has already quoted his “unqualified” remarks. Bernie Sanders is a sore loser. Maybe he should concern himself with why he wont release his taxes, HRC has released hers entirely for the past 7 years. And collecting 45,000. a year in Social Security when you’re still working is wrong in my book, How does he explain that???

  • Sn Lr

    Its Obama and ClintonS. Who else was elected or will be elected.

  • Mitchell

    Frankly when did the term whore refer only to women as there as also male whores. Why immediatly jump to some hillary slur?

    Clearly it’s a bad choice of word period and one to be ashamed of using, he has apoligized and clarified move on.

  • Bill and Hillary have been called out for that “joke”. (I use quotes because jokes are funny and that one was more lame than offensive. Whoever wrote it should be fired, not for racial insensitivity but for not being funny.)

  • I do not understand the tone deafness of the Bernie supporters. States with large black populations don’t matter? Calling women whores (even metaphorically)? They didn’t see the obvious problems with this? Are they that isolated from reality? Don’t answer that.

  • JB20010

    Bernie has disavowed this latest bit of BernieBro garbage.

    http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/dem-primaries/276271-sanders-disavows-surrogates-corporate-whore-remark

    Bernie protect us…from your followers.

  • Kobi

    The difference is that the majority of his supporters are like me and don’t want a Republican president. The only way I’d vote for someone other than Hillary from she’s the nominee would be if a viable progressive third party candidate appeared and that’s unlikely. Bernie doesn’t want to get Republicans elected and his supporters that do are a minority of his support

  • Rainbird

    She sells to the highest bidder. What do you call it then?

  • Rainbird

    Divisive campaign? You democrats (if that is what republican lites are calling themselves these days) will maybe nominate your corporate banking whore, but the goal is actually the whitehouse. Unless Trump gets screwed out of the nomination and runs as an independent, splitting the republican vote, that means we put a republican in the oval office. Hillary is not electable.

  • timncguy

    and yet his supporters are online saying they intend to do the same if he is not the nominee and hand the election to the republicans. So, what’s the difference?

  • Webster

    Here’s the scenario: Bernie shows up at the Verizon strike to support the workers, Hillary takes $250k from Verizon for a speech she won’t allow anyone to read…

    The conclusions are easily drawn.

  • cris levin

    true, only GOP should take billions from rich people, and Democrats should just stick to tiny donations and lose everything, who need WH or congress when we have Bernie Bros!

    true, all rich people are cold hearted evil-doers. There is no such thing as “good” in people like Bernie Sanders, who has a easy job and 200K salary. Or people like Barack Obama, who is even richer, or like Bill Gates, whose foundation is just fighting disease around the globe for shows.

  • RetCol

    The Dr. didn’t refer to HRC directly. My, my her campaign feelin sensitive….guilty, or just trying to change the narrative? This is the kind of political chicanery, that always males a Clinton campaign repulsive. On the other hand how do you go from bankruptcy to multi- millionaire in 10 years while the 99% has no wage growth?

  • MaryLF

    I suppose you would be fine with Sec. Clinton making a comment about ‘socialist bastards’ in apparent reference to Sanders? I’m not saying he needed to upbraid the guy right there, but he hasn’t said a word about it. Even if it was a perfectly genuine mistake, then or later and certainly to Sec. Clinton he should have acknowledged the fact that it shouldn’t have been said. Referring to the first front-runner female presidential candidate as a “whore” is of course going to strike a nerve. That seems pretty obvious and if it isn’t to Sanders, then it just adds to the impressive of tone deafness he gives. The GOP campaign has sadly raised our tolerance for degrading language. Also, if you must refer to anyone as a ‘whore’, I would think any GOP politician would far and away deserve it more. Yes, she hasn’t voted the way you would have preferred every time. But if you compare the actions and votes of Sec. Clinton to ANY Republican you would see that.

  • Mike Reynolds

    If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck. Those accepting huge “donations” from their corporate sponsors are Screwing the rest of us. Seems like an accurate description to me. This election cycle has really uncovered the corruption of our election process. Ending closed primaries and “super”delegates would change this process dramatically.

  • Kobi

    Since when is a thank you an endorsement of ideas?

  • Kobi

    Because if he ran as an independent he’d split the Democratic vote and give the election to Republicans

  • Aida Gutierrez

    They’re are the same, i’ve been saying it from the beginning Bernie is starting a revolution, trump is making american great again, both are making promises for things that they cannot possibly deliver.

  • Kobi

    Don’t let them divide us up by political ideology. Just because somebody isn’t in the same party as you doesn’t make them this subhuman savage. If he ran as an independent he would split the democratic vote and give the election to the Republicans. That’s why he’s running in the Democratic Party. If he wasn’t, your friend Hillary and all other Americans would be screwed.

  • Shira Shiver

    Good God, that’s all you’ve got? 50k people show up to hear a man SPEAK and THIS is what you pull out of your…ear…to play out? So let’s see… his opponent days ago performs a skit, rehearsed, on stage, where a racist joke about “Colored People Time” is featured. Next days she’s shaking hands with Al Sharpton! Guess Trump will be having breakfast with Erica Garner after HIS little demonstration of “I can’t breathe” huh? I know it must be really, really scary to see one man draw massive crowds to LISTEN to him (let’s underestimate the count, shall we, we’ll only count people inside the park and ignore those outside who couldn’t get in. And let’s say it this way: “the Sanders Campaign SAYS there are 27 thousand” that way it sounds like they made it up! We won’t the other 25k that NYC Police counted OUTSIDE. And then we’ll also say they were all YOUNG even though the photos published show plenty of gray heads. And then we’ll Trump up a comment that one his speakers made because people will focus on that little tidbit, rise up and defend our girl and everything will be all better. RIGHT?? You know who loses this presidential contest? The media. You’ve lost your franchise. You’ve lost your legacy of watchdog and truthtellers. Finis.

  • Tilde

    This is completely made up. Hillary made the exact same shit up about Obama supporters in 2008.

  • Aida Gutierrez

    How much more proof do you need that Bernie Sanders is NOT a Democrat??? He has not disavowed a speaker at his rally who called for the removal of the Democrats from Congress to be replaced with Bernie Crats doesn’t sound like a democrat to me. Democrats need to call him out on this. NOW

  • Lily Ann

    Bernie is not even a Democrat. Why is he running as one?

  • NaphiSoc

    exactly – this is who supports Comrade Bernie

  • NaphiSoc

    she generates thus far 2.5M more votes than Bernie – when he catches her in popular vote then get to me.

  • Kobi

    Since when does a thank you mean an endorsement of ideas?

  • NaphiSoc

    Sanders is in flailing lash out at everyone mode now. He does not take losing well. April 19 and 26 he will pay the price for his divisive campaign and DEMOCRATS will select our team captain with about 40% of all remaining delegates at stake in CLOSED PRIMARY STATES and it should then be apparent to all that he WILL NOT become the nominee of the Democratic Party nor will he ever.

  • Shaun Gregor

    Bernie still isn’t running a negative campaign right? I always hear him say they haven’t run one negative ad against Clinton but every time I hear him or a surrogate speak it is Hillary=Devil etc.

  • Bill and Hillary Clinton have taken $153 million in personal speaking fees since 2001. They have raised $2 billion for the Clinton Foundation. 60 corporations and governments which were lobbying the State Department when Hillary was Secretary of State gave money to the Clinton Foundation and 12 groups that were lobbying the State Department paid personal speaking fees to Bill Clinton. There are repeated instances of Hillary acting on behalf of the groups that gave her or her spouse money when she was a senator and the secretary of state. Eg: vote for Bankruptcy Bill (which she opposed as First Lady), Rosatom/Uranium One deal to sell US uranium reserves to Russian company, Ericson to avoid sanctions for selling telecom equipment to Syria and Iran, United Arab Emirates to avoid sanctions for doing business with Iran, Boeing and Kingdom of Saudi Arabia to allow $29 billion arms deal, Frank Guistra to get Colombia Free Trade Agreement that benefited his gas and timber concessions, UBS Bank from Switzerland to not be forced to turn over information about 50,000 American account holders who the IRS believed were illegally hiding wealth abroad to avoid taxes, India to avoid sanctions for violating the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty and sign a nuclear agreement with the US, TD Bank and Transcanada for the State Dept. to approve the XL Keystone pipeline, China to avoid trade war with the US. Peter Schweizer in his book _Clinton Cash_ details more than a dozen cases where Hillary did favors for groups that gave her, her spouse or her Foundation money. Yes, Hillary Clinton fits the definition of a “corporate whore”. Unfortunately, the term has sexist origins and we should probably use a different term, but that doesn’t change the fact that Hillary Clinton has engaged in behavior which by any objective standard fits the definition of a “corporate whore”. Trying to accuse Bernie Sanders of sexism is just an underhanded way of distracting from the issue of corruption in politics.

  • NaphiSoc

    agreed. If Sanders had an ounce of decency he should immediately suspend his campaign.

  • NaphiSoc

    I think there was one or two who switched from HRC to Bernie in the last two weeks. We also had one undeclared come out for HRC. Yawn. Basically her over 100 delegates past the majority of supers declared for her remains intact. BS has only like 4% of the supers declare support for him – she is over 60%. He is hated and despised in the Democratic Party. I know two personally and they will be GLEEFUL to vote against him and they will do so even if he has a majority of pledgeds. That is how much he is hated.

  • KurtNiceHHL

    Is a corporate whore someone who takes millions of dollars in defense contract spending for a useless F-35 aircraft for their state? What do you call someone who advocates to dump nuclear waste in states where the waste was not created? What kind of whore is that? BTW Dr. Song spoke about Hillary in the previous sentence, then claimed he wasn’t referring to her. That is straight up BS. He said it because he meant it at the time. Now he regrets it because people outside of the rally also heard it. Bernie’s whole campaign from assbag Jeff Weaver, to $810k/month Tad Devine, to lyin’ Jane and old BS himself, have made one sloppy comment after another.

  • NaphiSoc

    Pissant states in terms of delegate hauls in those 7 states. (BTW WY was more a “virtual tie” than IA was bc NEWSFLASH the delegates split 7-7). The delegates in those 7 states add up ALMOST EXACTLY to the delegate count in NY. Every single poll in the CLOSED PRIMARY state of NY shows her with a 13-17 point lead. we have in two weeks multiple contests in states where it is 607 delegates at stake – they are ALL Closed primaries (where Republicans cannot do mischief in our elections) and they ALL show her in the lead.

    Bernie is going down BIG TIME. HRC’s streak of her 7 states will be in states where the delegate count adds to 607 – his streak was in states adding to 230.

    Right now to tie in pledged delegates he has to win by 13% margins going forward – something he tied in WI and exceeded in VT and NH. the 18 other **PRIMARY** states he lost. The ave ave score in those 21 PRIMARY states to date was HRC 59 BS 41. A NY loss by 10% means his required margins going forward will jump from 13% to 17%.

    No, if you can #FeelTheMath correctly. **EARLY** in the evening on June 7 she will be declared the winner by all networks of the Democratic Party’s nomination process. It will be an awesome moment in American history.

  • Tilde

    The difference in standards people are expected to have between Sanders and Trump supporters is amazing. You’re seriously telling me this is an inexcusable offense on par with proposing to ban all muslims?

  • Christian Volet

    Was a joke. I had just finished watching Star Wars. I support all progressives, regardless of gender. I don’t believe this article is a clear representation of what actually happened.

  • Christian Volet

    Maybe I’m not Nevada enough. I have no idea what your point is here.

  • doug dash

    From today’s Daily KOS. This scares the hell out of a lot of Democrats including me.

    “By contrast, Kasich comfortably beats Clinton, racking up 304 electoral college votes to her 234….The results show that the race is still up for grabs, with nearly 20 percent of registered voters saying they are undecided about who they’d vote for between Clinton and either Trump, Cruz or Kasich.”

  • distressed

    AS of 2014: “Black Vermonters make up just 1.2% of the state’s general population, but 10.7% of its incarcerated population” heckuva job Bernie.

    http://mic.com/articles/124341/here-s-how-black-people-actually-fare-in-vermont-with-bernie-sanders-as-their-senator#.OvxlSJWg4

  • You would have been screaming, “That’s right! Sarah Palin sells herself to anyone for the returned favor of getting attention in front of the camera! Look at what she’s doing with Trump!”. Hillary, the DNC, and the media are all democratic whores for WAR, FRACKING, BIG OIL, BIG BANKS, WALL STREET, and for anyone willing to pay them for returned favors! Who was the candidate who took in millions from arms dealers in her foundation for the returned favor of US arms deals for 20 countries? Huh?

  • If he called them fascist whores you wouldn’t have thought he was talking about Hillary or Debbie of the DNC, right?

  • Hillary has a D after her name just like Joe Lieberman did for years. Bernie has democratic values that are ingrained deeply. Hillary & Joe sold out to war and Wall Street: democratic whores!

  • timncguy

    Thaw was discussed on TV for a week, Madeline Albright was forced to apologize and Clinton was forced to address the comment with reporters. Let’s see if any reporters ask Sanders about this at all or if it even gets discussed on TV. I doubt it.

  • Cynthia Williams

    What do you call an Independent running as a Democrat who claims he doesn’t have a Super Pac?

    http://www.politicususa.com/2016/02/01/bernie-sanders-super-pac-money-democratic-rivals.html

  • Allison Plant

    Look at the title of your article? Are you trying to misrepresent Sanders? Is this a question you legitimately would ask any candidate? Hilary supporters seems have no options now but to smear, misrepresent and lie. Honest politics just won’t cut it – and they know that.

  • Cynthia Williams

    Dollars to donuts you are dieting on sound bites and have actually never even read that interview. Take a peek.

    http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/transcript-bernie-sanders-meets-news-editorial-board-article-1.2588306

  • Cynthia Williams

    Back in the day, your beloved Bernie Sanders (I) encouraged having President Obama “primaried”. It seems he is back up to his old tricks of supporting “Bernie-crats” to primary Democrats. When asked on the Rachel Maddow show if he, Bernie, would support down-ticket Democrats he said “We’ll see.” When Jane Sanders was interviewed by Rachel Maddow she said he would support the “right candidates”. hmmm

    http://www.commondreams.org/news/2016/04/13/seeking-allies-revolution-sanders-backs-progressive-women-congress

  • Cynthia Williams

    The lengths to which apparent Bernie supporters go to try to excuse some of his advocates is so very “Trumpian”.

  • A democratic whore is one who takes millions in arms dealers money into their “charity” and then proceeds to use one’s power as Secretary of State to give 20 countries US arms deals. Money = favors! And when some of those weapons end up in ISIS? Totally fine! The democratic whore got her money and fame. That’s all that matters.

  • Right on, Pat! Well said!

  • She is a whore for those who give millions to the Clinton Foundation in exchange for favors worldwide.

  • Democratic whores: DNC, Wall St, Oligarchy Media and those who support all three!

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  • goulo

    What is the actual alleged scandal here specifically?

    1. That the guy used the word whore in the common metaphor “corporate whore”, and this is inherently offensive / sexist / bad?
    Well, John is guilty of the same on multiple occasions, e.g.:
    http://americablog.com/2006/03/stupid-spoiled-whore.html
    Which includes this cute cartoon image of a whore with a black eye, which seems far more sexist/problematic to me than the expression “corporate whore”:
    http://americablog.blogspot.com/stupidspoiledwhore.jpg

    2. That the guy criticized Democrats? (If THAT’S the offense, then we’re ALL guilty. Lately John criticizes certain Democrats every day… and we should all have the right to criticize politicians if we think they are doing wrong.)

    3. That he said “corporate DEMOCRATIC whores” specifically instead of “corporate whores” more generally? Does anyone seriously believe that this means he thinks that no Republicans are corporate whores? If someone says “Americans use too many fossil fuels”, do they mean that no one else also uses too many fossil fuels? No, of course not; they are just talking to their audience of Americans and saying “let’s clean up our own house first, where we actually have some direct influence and responsibility”. Similarly here, if you’re talking to Democrats, then talk about what makes a good or bad Democrat. “We need to stop electing Democrats who are corporate sellouts” is the obvious point. Democrats have more control over which who will become an elected Democratic candidate, but Democrats don’t generally vote for Republicans, so it’s kind of pointless to urge us to stop electing corporate Republican whores.

  • goulo

    Because he’s talking about who “we” elect. We (Democrats, progressives, liberals, etc) are not typically voting for Republicans.

    “Medicare for all will never happen if we continue to elect corporate
    Democratic whores who are beholden to Big Pharma and the
    private insurance industry instead of us.”

    Do you seriously think that he meant that the only corporate whores are Democrats, and that no Republicans are corporate whores? It seems obvious that that was not the intended meaning, just like if someone says “We Americans use too many fossil fuels”, they obviously do not mean that no one else uses too many fossil fuels. It’s simply a focused call to clean up our own house specifically.

  • BullDyke Odell

    but then again Avarosis has always been something of a corporate whore himself. an attacker of bisexual men, because the LGBT is all about the picket fence.

  • goulo

    If you object to the word “whore” as unacceptable “hate language”, then I trust you will similarly chide John himself for using it about people in past posts.

    E.g. see http://americablog.com/2006/03/stupid-spoiled-whore.html

  • BullDyke Odell

    it’s fantastic when you are offended by the truth

  • goulo

    FWIW that analogy does not work for me. Calling a random black person the n-word is literally sneering at their race; it’s not using the word as an obvious metaphor like “corporate whore”, which has nothing to do with literal prostitution of sexual favors.

    And the n-word in itself is generally considered inherently offensive/racist/inappropriate.

    Or are you saying that using the word “whore” is similarly inherently offensive/sexist/inappropriate, regardless of whether it’s used to talk about someone who does not literally work as a whore selling sexual favors?

    If so, then John is guilty of the same:

    http://americablog.com/2013/08/funny-thing-putin-means-whore-french.html

    http://americablog.com/2005/01/armstrong-williams-is-a-big-fat-whore.html

    http://americablog.com/2006/03/stupid-spoiled-whore.html
    That “Stupid spoiled whore” post included this picture:
    http://americablog.blogspot.com/stupidspoiledwhore.jpg
    which seems a lot MORE blatantly sexist/problematic (haha, humor value from a cute cartoon of a whore with a black eye!) than a speech comment about corporate whores.

  • Gracie Bean

    So let me get this straight: Bernie’s surrogate made a derogatory comment towards Democrats in general (yes, that is what he did) Bernie said nothing to correct it, that’s ok? And some of you here like to point of Hilary’s short comings this week, but totally miss the fact the week prior Bernie earned 13 pinocchios for lying and that was more than delegates he earned in a week… And according to you guys: anyone who writes an article that doesnt paint Bernie with a halo or anyone who supports her has been paid off or is an establishment crony or they just sold out? That there is no way that anything that people are saying holds any truth? And the minute one of us has a legitimate point, your rebuttal is to say that we are sheep. It’s all so ironic. Denial aint just a river in Egypt.

  • Gracie Bean

    What is the difference between Democratic whores and Democrats becoming whores? Isnt that the same thing? At the end of the day: he is calling them whores. smh

  • Gracie Bean

    Don’t fool yourself: there wasnt a large enough crowd for him. BTW: Hillary when to the projects in Buffalo and in other states. She met with the mothers of children who have been murdered LONG before the election started.
    Stop with your corrupt rhetoric. It’s old and ignorant.

  • Gracie Bean

    Interesting: because when it came down to it, he moved to Vermont so he could fight for minorities? smh

  • Gracie Bean

    Considering Hillary is a democrat: He called her a whore.

  • Voodoo Chile

    On this very site. Calling for the death of Bernie Sanders, for example, and getting 7 up votes from AmericaBloggers for doing so.

    Or Hillary supporters calling the most liberal voting demographic and politicians racists and sexists. It’s so hilarious, a demographic that we can predict to be white, wealthy, middle-aged or older, and racist is calling young college kids sexist and racist!!

  • Voodoo Chile

    For entirely different things than what liberals criticize her for. It’s almost as if you lack the cognitive complexity to distinguish between liberals and conservatives. That’s not too surprising since you apparently lack all conviction and political principle and just treat politics as a team sport where your “team” gets to win.

  • Voodoo Chile

    Sexist.

  • Voodoo Chile

    Kind of like how Clinton supporters and AmericaBloggers refer to liberals as racists and sexists.

  • Davie Graham

    Lol,most of the Hillary supporters on here are so willing to ignore anything that Hillary does that it truelly bogills the mind. I guess Trump isn’t the only one that could shoot someone in broad daylight and get away with it… Oh wait better not look at that list of over 90 Clinton associate s that have mysteriously died or gone missing. Oh and didn’t Courtney love just endorse her?

  • Voodoo Chile

    “in bed with the NRA”

    First of all, think of the term “in bed with.” You just called a political opponent a whore. Shame on you.

    Second of all, it’s pretty amazing that Bernie Sanders can be a whore (your words, not mine) for the NRA and get a D- rating. He must not be a very good whore (your words, not mine)

  • TiberiusB

    No, it’s a fabricated scenario that has no bearing on what was said. You call out Sanders policies as flawed (wrong, as they are policy proposals and not actual policy as yet), and then try to make the leap from there to some assertion about a pretty tame comment being indicative of an ugly campaign. First, there is no ugliness to a comment that suggests, correctly, I’m betting, that you likely were never going to even consider Bernie Sanders for your vote. You only reinforce this perception by continuing to cherry pick the worst examples of Sanders supporters and holding them up as representational of the entire lot (massively insulting, but par for the course at this point), all so you can pretend Sanders and Trump drink from the same cup of evil…or something. Both campaigns are tapping into the deep voter frustration with the current system, but their approaches to reform are at opposite ends of the spectrum. Sure, you are going to pull in some disaffected anti-social malcontents looking for trouble, but only one campaign is going to base it’s entire message around them, and it ain’t Sanders. There are actual videos of strangers walking around and giving random hugs to Sanders supporters and it’s all happiness and rainbows while the same hug-a-palooza gets the cold shoulder and nearly results in violence at a Trump rally. Not the same crowd at all.

  • Voodoo Chile

    Calling for the death of Bernie Sanders got 7 uproots in the last thread. Welcome to the new AmericaBlog, where “democratic” authoritarians call for the deaths of their political opponents.

  • Voodoo Chile

    I will say this at least – the outrage over this is nowhere near ridiculous over “Vatican-gate.” What a laugh that was.

  • Davie Graham

    The fact that you think whore is a term only used to describe woman, shows that YOU are sexist.

  • Roni

    He has by now and has time to tweet to Ted Cruz but is still silent on what happened at his rally. Sorry this isn’t one he can just ignore. This crossed a huge line.

  • laura

    Not a scandal…look it up again.

  • laura

    Because he is from Brooklyn and grew up in New York and has fought for civil rights and the down trodden for years? Yeah, pointless observation.

  • Davie Graham

    Because the superdelegate system is corrupt, can you seriously not see that? They are elected officials, they are supposed to be held accountable for their actions by their constitutes, especially if they plan on voting against the will of their States voters. If you disagree then you don’t give a damn about democracy.

  • TiberiusB

    I said it was fine to be offended at the word choice (though ridiculous to ignore the immediate apology), but that it was absurd and not a bit ironic that many commenters are rushing to make this a slur against ALL Dems, including the corporate sell outs this was clearly aimed at. Effectively they are saying, unintentionally, I imagine, (though Avarosis should know better and I’m sure he does), that all Dems = corporate Dems. That’s not a particularly effective message. You actually think bipartisanship works with only one party doing all the heavy lifting? Show me honest efforts at bipartisanship from the GOP over the past 8 years. Do you think the GOP will treat a woman, a Clinton at that, any better than Obama?

    As for Sanders, he actually has a fairly strong record of bipartisanship over the years.

    http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/bernie-gets-it-done-sanders-record-pushing-through-major-reforms-will-surprise-you

    http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/07/bernie-sanders-is-a-loud-stubborn-socialist-republicans-like-him-anyway/450597/

    And seriously, “more moderate Dems”? As opposed to the wild eyed liberals we have in office now?

  • Pat Rosado

    You listened with convenient ears. He did not call her or Bill corporate whore. He expressed his gratitude to them and also explained why he chose to be on Bernie’s side. Interesting to see how you only heard what would make your angst justifiable.

  • Pat Rosado

    He called the Democrats whores not her. If you can’t see the reality of what he said, then you’ve missed the point completely. I suppose we should then thank her and everyone else who voted for us to be in a war that we should never have participated in. How about all those people who died needlessly in that country and our own people who didn’t have to die. He expressed his gratitude and explained why he chose Bernie. Did you listen?

  • Niki

    So only pro-Bernie articles for you. Enjoy your bubble.

  • Pat Rosado

    And yet Bernie Sanders showed up in another States to visit where no one else would. Did you know about his visits in Chicago. Did you know he was first to be concerned about Flint, Michigan and did it quietly, who then was followed by her. Do your homework. So he didn’t attend an invite in New York, maybe because he is busy fighting the corruption within NY to try to help the poor folks of color, the LGBTQ, the Latinos and anyone else who is a HUMAN being.

  • Niki

    Not sure why my response wasn’t posted but here it goes again.

    That’s not true. You’re deflecting to make an excuse for your saviors. I could easily say men call women c**ts all the time and to say it isn’t based on gender is idiocy. Whore is commonly used to refer to women. If I called your mom a c**t I doubt you’d say it was not gender based

  • karlInSanDiego

    John Aravosis is a corporate whore. This blog used to have useful information, before John carried water for the Hillary Campaign. L8R – Unsubscribe.

  • Ninja0980

    One more thing, that corporate whore helped get his wife out of North Korea… nice to see the thanks he is giving in response to that.

  • Niki

    Are you? If you’re sober you can do a quick google search instead of questioning my alcohol level.

  • Niki

    His camp has tried their best to keep it from re-surging. Notice the current media really started vetting him. If Hillary wanted to she could bring this up along with other things that would contradict more then half the things he says he stands for but I doubt she would since he is a “fellow democrat”. The republicans (even though they addressed it in the past) are sitting on all this to use against him in the off chance he wins. Republicans have been smearing Hillary’s name since the 90’s. Sanders is relatively new to the mass public so people either forgot past reports about him or haven’t been exposed to it yet.

  • karlInSanDiego

    are you drunk?

  • Ninja0980

    You want to know the real scandal here?
    NYC council members invited all five of the presidential candidates to their housing projects to see how poor folks truly live and not one of them showed up.
    That would include Bernie Sanders, who is rallying against the 1% but couldn’t be bothered to take time out of his schedule to visit poor folks of color.
    And he wonders why he is still struggling with minority voters?

  • Ninja0980

    Indeed, just look at Todd Akin and Richard Mourdock.
    Their senate seats were all but locked up until they opened their mouths on rape.
    How the hell is Bernie supposed to spin what he wrote about?

  • Pat Rosado

    Oh please John, really? I was at that rally and had not heard fully what he said because of the large crowd cheering sometimes as he spoke. But I have now listened to it, one word at a time, and you’ve got nothing. He stated a fact! Democrats have become whores. They have sold out, just like the Repugs. While he may have apologized for his use of the word, in no way does he imply it about her. It is fact. I am a Democrat since the age of 19, now at 60, I am not only disgusted with the Repugs but with the Democratic Party, the DNC and all those corrupted Democrats whose only intent in joining her team is to protect their sorry ARSES. Truth be told, I was never naive to believe they were all saints, but their behavior throughout this entire process has opened my eyes wide open. When it is all over, and IF Bernie does not win the nomination, the political revolution and social movement will continue. We’ve all had enough of both parties and their failure to represent the people that elected them. Stop stirring the pot and making much about nothing. If you can’t handle the truth, then stay out of the fire. If you are going to write a blog, do it with intelligence. I see you were a former Repug and also worked in the Children’s Defense Fund is that where you met her? You are certainly not fooling me and I will post this response on my Facebook page, as well as the page I’ve created for Bernie. Stop the smear campaign.

  • Niki

    Obama generates enthusiasm as well but it’s a proven fact more republicans vote in general and local elections then democrats and independents. If Bernie did generate as much enthusiasm as you state then he would be beating Hillary in popular votes as well as electoral votes. I honestly can’t tell the difference between a Sanders supporter or a Trump supporter unless they’re talking about the candidate. They both say such hateful things. Sanders and his camp would single lose the presidency over to Trump (if Sanders magically won the democratic nomination). Sander’s current sound bites and past remarks are enough to turn a democrat away.

    Imagine his essay from 1972 about women fantasizing about being raped by three men plastered on every channel.

    “A woman enjoys intercourse with her man — as she fantasizes being raped by 3 men simultaneously.” – Bernie Sanders

  • Fiasco Linguini

    Bernie generates a lot of enthusiasm; we can win Congress with him in the lead. Hillary generates apathy, as she is just more of the same old establishment. If Hillary wins the nom, Dems will lose more seats everywhere. There’s no telling where the votes will go; many Bernie supporters are Republican, they may choose Trump. Neither you or I will change their minds.

    Everything else you said is arguable, but I’m pretty tired of repeating these arguments, aren’t you?

  • Niki

    Okay now you’re back stepping and accepting the second meaning society puts on words. In the end you only prove my point.

  • Niki

    In all honesty it won’t be. Why? Because Bernie supporters can’t put anything to bed. I believe if Bernie and his camp (i.e. the supporters) didn’t start the mud slinging then it wouldn’t be this huge mess. Bernie supporters are only helping the Republican candidates look good.

  • Sarah brownstone

    Well, yes but this is an example of all sorts of individual people who make up society propagating these negative associations. So fine, even if you meant to call me a homosexual dog I still wouldn’t mind because I don’t think there is anything wrong with either of those things.

  • Niki

    Why should he apologize? Also he didn’t write that skit. I don’t see anyone blaming the writers.

  • Fiasco Linguini

    Way to ignore both of his substantial comments by focusing on one word.

  • Niki

    People like me? You mean society in general. Exactly what do you think the “G” stands for in “LGBT”?

  • Niki

    It’s the same. Calling someone out of their name is wrong. It’s like me calling Sanders a communist democrat even though he is known as a socialist democrat. One of the people who stayed at the kibbutz Sanders spent two years said communism and socialism are interchangeable. So does that make it appropriate?

  • Fiasco Linguini

    Being for sale to corporate interests makes you a whore. Does being progressive make you a bastard?

  • Sarah brownstone

    I like dogs, cats and happiness. Those are wonderful things. It is people like yourself that continue to think of these terms as bad. If you called me a gay bitch I personally would think you were calling me a happy dog which would be really nice, if you think about it!

  • Niki

    Bernie has corporate sponsors as well. He’s in bed with the NRA. Also the reason Obama didn’t get more done is because the American people let him down by not voting out the republicans out who kept obstructing him. The same people who shut down the government over a temper tantrum got to keep their seats and then brought more republicans in. Take some responsibility.

  • Fiasco Linguini

    Corporate Democrats are corporate whores, just as Corporate Republicans are corporate whores. That’s just speaking adult. Yes, he should have toned it down to a PG rating, but shit like that happens when you’re speaking in public. It is not the same thing as getting up and asserting that Obama is an Arab.

  • Sarah brownstone

    Well, I guess if you called bernie sanders a progressive bastard I wouldn’t really mind regardless of what definition you intended. Even if you meant an “illegitimate person who wants to work toward better conditions” I wouldn’t mind because I don’t think there is anything wrong with being illegitimate or working toward better conditions. There also is nothing wrong inherently with a woman paid to have sex, I actually think it is the people who are so outraged over the term whore that are insulting women. Continuing the propagation of the idea that a woman who receives money for sex is bad. In some cultures, in some times the word whore is sacred. You are the one making it a bad word.

  • dannythetrucker

    building aeroplanes dummy. the little arrow thingy and persons name tells you who I was replying to, you look up and you can read the comment. That way you don’t jump in and make a comment with no frame of reference. dummy

  • Fiasco Linguini

    Many Americans have realized that most Democrats are just as beholden to their corporate sponsors as the Republicans. They vote for the benefit of their donors, not for the people. At best, they put on a bit of a show, making it look like it was a tough fight, but it’s all phony.

    Independents are the biggest demographic, and they are pretty clear on this, and see Hillary as a corporate shill. Many, if not most, of the Bernie supporters to whom you preach owe no party allegiance to the DNC.

    We got very little change with Obama, we want real change. Hillary holds no promise for real change, only perpetuation of the establishment.

  • Elle Latham

    I’m a Berner and I honestly didn’t notice the remark until I went to twitter after the rally and the Hillary supporters were all abuzz. It’s like they only watched one part of the speech and went to town even after Song apologized. Anyway, I do not agree with that language but again, he did quickly apologize so it’s a non-story. Nobody was hurt. Nobody was killed. Let’s put it to bed. Back to the issues please.

  • JB20010

    But remember, Bernie’s running on the issues.

    And if you forget it, you’re an unqualified whore.

  • Elle Latham

    Yes, he spoke on that as well if you bothered to listen to more than two words.

  • M.Bachman

    What jobs? naming the Post Offices?

  • Elle Latham

    And jokes are never offensive. Or racist or perceived as such.

  • M.Bachman

    Lame is like when you said “We are very busy”, “Can’t find my tax return”.. when people asked for Bernie tax return.

  • M.Bachman

    You mistyped there, Bernie Sanders!

  • M.Bachman

    No, that was a joke!

  • M.Bachman

    Bernie surrogates has said some sexist and misogyny things, and Bernie supported them by his silence, I guess that’s what happened when Bernie himself is misogyny!

  • Elle Latham

    Also, Bill de Blasio didn’t apologize for the “CP time” skit. He just said it was a satire. At least Song quickly apologized for his statement and let me add that the rest of the rally was pretty great if this blogger bothered to watch it.

  • Fiasco Linguini

    Bullshit! People call politicians corporate whores all the time and it’s not about gender. You are straining to play the gender card and it so superficial a child would be embarrassed for you.

  • Niki

    They have threatened to create a third party if Bernie is picked.

  • Jim Maloney

    I would think that whichever candidate has the pledged delegate lead that the supers will fall in line behind that candidate – which is what they’ve been doing since they were created in the 80s. It would be interesting if it was a small lead though.

    I wasn’t aware any supers had switched from Hillary to Bernie. I’ve only heard some uncommitteds like Jeff Merkley announce their support.

  • Niki

    Let the offensive nature of the word “communist” flow through your veins. You will soon become sith. Mmm, yes.

  • Fiasco Linguini

    I’m not comfortable betting the country’s future based on your faith in anyone who claims to be a Democrat.

  • Niki

    This isn’t irony. The word choice takes away from the message. If President Obama gave the state of the Union address and ended each sentence with motherf***** do you think everyone would be okay with that or would it dilute the message? I’m a liberal and not one bit progressive or pretend to be. Referring to anyone in your party as a whore is repulsive. You only hurt yourself and give the republicans more ammo. Let’s say Sanders did get the presidential nomination. Everything he has said about the democratic party will come back to bite him. He makes it so easy to use sound bites from him and his supporters to show long term and short term democrats that he doesn’t really support the democratic party. By the way I believe in bipartisanship which Sanders does not and clearly you don’t either. So no we don’t need progressive Dems but more moderate Dems. I also have a feeling most of Sanders supporters are the same people who fail to go out and vote in their local elections, and general elections then cry about the government later on.

  • Fiasco Linguini

    Which is why he apologized. It is monumentally obvious that he meant to use the phrase “corporate democrats” but Hilbots refuse to use common sense for anything they can use to fling mud towards Bernie.

  • dannythetrucker

    my opinion is count the votes after they vote. Superdelegate pledges are basically a poll, some have switched already. If Hillary wins the pledged delegates by even one, she will get the nomination as it should be. If Bernie can generate a yuge turnaround and somehow go to the convention with sizeable lead (unlikely) the SD’s will be his for the pickin. Question is if Bernie goes in with a slight lead in pledged. One thing is certain, if Bernie doesn’t get the nomination all hell will break loose at the convention. Hopefully not violence.

  • feet_ontheground

    Seriously.. right now after the EXTREME stunts Hilary has pulled in the past week trying to SWIFTBOAT Bernie on GUNS & trying to tie him to Sandyhook for chrissakes… I HAVE SOME CHOICE WORDS FOR THAT LYING #[email protected]!X!

    The Her DONOR OWNED NY Daily News Tried to screw Bernie over in their interview which he got through just fine, it was the interviewers that were too stupid to understand their own questions.

    And its hard not be furious with the Establishment Democrats for helping to rig this primary for Hilary and helping her to funnel millions through state dem parties and to ‘purchase the super delegates’ though many are lobbyists anyway so they were already fundraising for her…

    Senator Sanders obviously did not say these remarks. The person who did say them apologized.

    Considering that it was the Hilary Campaign that announced the night Bernie Won Wisconsin that they were going to ‘defeat & disqualify’ Bernie… as it was reported on CNN THAT NIGHT!
    Go peddle your self righteousness somewhere else!

  • Niki

    It makes perfect sense. From what I’ve seen Sanders and Trumps supporters are on the same level. Where Trump’s followers go about physical violence and threats, Sanders people use cyber bullying and threats. Have you heard of the super delegate hit list? A Sanders supporter created it to harass the delegates into voting for Sanders. Trumps people also have a list that they use to harass delegates. Both groups have threatened the lives of super delegates and stalked them.

  • Max_1

    John,
    Another example of the DC whores…

    Pro-TPP Op-Eds Remarkably Similar to Drafts by Foreign Government Lobbyists
    https://theintercept.com/2016/04/10/tpp-lobbyist-opeds/

  • Jim Maloney

    Thanks. Good to see your thought process. I wouldn’t have guessed it from your other comment. Listening to his campaign talking about getting Superdelegates to switch and possibly even pledged delegates, it’s felt like they’re reaching especially when they talk about doing things they criticized in the beginning of the contests.

    Whether one supports Hillary or not, her campaign has put out information outlining their plans to win the primary contests. I haven’t seen that from BS. It seems like the focus changes which doesn’t instill confidence.

    I have seen this from Bernie supporters which I found interesting but, as mentioned, not much detail from the campaign itself on the remaining contests (more about evolving delegate strategy).

  • Niki

    Are you referring to Sanders? The NRA funded his last Senate run and he in turned passed bills in support of them. Don’ act like Sander’s shit don’t stick as well. No one is perfect.

  • TiberiusB

    That’s not what I asked. I didn’t say HRC hasn’t been the target of GOP attacks ever. I asked when they went after her over her support for things like the bombing of Libya or the coup in Honduras. Can you provide examples? It’s entirely possible I missed them.

  • Max_1

    Just remember:
    IT NEVER IS WHEN THE CLINTONS DO

    Clinton: I’ll shut down ‘private tax system’ for the wealthy
    http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/275368-clinton-ill-shut-private-tax-system-for-the-wealthy

  • Max_1
  • Max_1

    John,
    If he called it FASCISM, would that be better?
    It’s far more accurate, all this intertwining of Corporate and Governmental interests for profit.
    NO?

  • TiberiusB

    Hyperbole gets 4 upvotes?

  • Max_1

    John,
    Here is an example of the CORPORATE WHORING…
    https://twitter.com/davidsirota/status/720239482939682816

  • TiberiusB

    I agree insomuch as I will vote for whichever candidate goes up against the GOP. Though my state is pretty much solid blue, so that’s not much of a stand.

  • TiberiusB

    Honesty and wisdom come with age…unless you’re a lying old man. Apparently the thing that doesn’t come with age is consistency.

  • Max_1

    John,
    An article about the gap in Bernie’s teeth would have more bite…

  • Max_1

    So, corporate whores are ok… IF they’re Democrats?

  • Max_1

    Two legs bad, four legs good… ?

  • dannythetrucker

    You seriously want me to sit here and try to explain to you that Bernie has closed the lead to 224 delegates, made up 20-30 point margins in states like IL, MO, MI, and WI ? That he”s won 7 of the last 8 contests, mostly blowouts. That he’s done exactly what he’s needed to do while Hillary has only maintained or lost support ? That she only grabbed a lead with wins in red states that can’t help her in the general ? That it is really obvious the only thing that can stop Bernie from winning is the clock, given enough time he only builds support in amazingly consistent fashion ? Is that what you want ? you want links to charts and graphs, lol. Honestly, if he wins NY it’s over for Hillary. I don’t think he will, it would be good if he came within 10 pts. I’d also be certain if her lead was under 200, instead of 225. But he clearly has the trajectory and the plan to achieve victory.

  • Max_1

    Democrats aren’t in Congress… Well, color me stupid!

  • Max_1

    It’s a talking point, not based in any factual world.
    1) Must. Deny. Hillary. Takes. Money. For. Favors.
    2) Must. Deny. Bill. Takes. Money. For. Favors.
    3) Must. Blame. Their. Rivals. Of. Doing. What. Clintons. Do.
    4) REPEAT. RISE. REPEAT.

  • Max_1

    Dollar for favor…
    Hillary is ten times more than what Bernie is.

    HOW MUCH IS DEMOCRACY WORTH?

  • Max_1

    Taking money for favors under the table… ?
    Does it count if we call the bed sheet a table cloth???

  • Max_1

    John,
    I give the waitress money because she brought me food.
    I give the florist money because she brings me flowers.
    I’ll even tip her if she’s really nice…

    But any expectations that I get anything for all this money I give to the waitress or florist in return is called… ?

    Oh, BTW John, in Nevada their called brothels…
    Nope, no expectations for cash on hand, NO???

  • TiberiusB

    How does this make any sense at all? Trump attracts violent followers BECAUSE of his message. If he were running a genuinely positive campaign (not simply “more positive”, which has an ocean’s worth of weasel room in it), he wouldn’t be getting any support from the lunatics propping him up and fueling his entire run.

  • Max_1
  • TiberiusB

    Because you don’t care for irony? That people would rush to protest “corporate Democratic whores” as some sort of attack on all Democrats and then pretend to be progressive? Get bent out of shape about the word choice, but don’t pretend the message, that we need to put progressive Dems in office and vote out the Blue Dogs and other corporate beholden politicians out, isn’t 100% true. Principles should define the party, not the other way around.

  • Shoot4themoon

    Meanwhile, Song’s sister-in-law, Lisa Ling, owes her freedom from imprisonment in North Korea to the woman Song inferred was a “corporate whore” *and* her husband.

  • Jim Maloney

    It’s also interesting that you didn’t address any of the points that were written and just changed the subject.

  • dannythetrucker

    Ghee, a bitter, arrogant, self lauding, presumptive Clinton supporter. How original. Because all Bernie supporters are political neophytes, right ? God you people are dense, but then again if you didn’t believe lies….

  • dannythetrucker

    Like Hillary controlled John Lewis and Gloria Steinem and Bill and Chelsea. Oh wait, they all lied about Bernie. This guy told the truth about Hillary.

  • dannythetrucker

    It’s so hard to tell with Hillary people if they’re stupid, or just liars.

  • Christian Volet

    Christ. What website have I ended up on now?

    How is the word whore even misogynistic?

  • chuck

    He was literally talking directly about her and then used the term “whore” in the same breath. He called her a whore.

  • dannythetrucker

    Do you really even think Sanders heard what he said ? Put on your thinking cap.

  • MaryLF

    My principle is to make life better, not worse in this country. So I will be voting Democratic all the way, because I refuse to turn the entire government over to Republicans. I want Clinton to win, but if she doesn’t I will put my personal disappointment aside and vote for the country who is best for the party.

  • MaryLF

    If you are really concerned about people who take big money from corporations and really do take orders from them, your anger should be directed at the GOP and you should be working as hard as you can for whichever candidate heads the Democratic ticket and for every down ticket Democrat.

  • 4wonderland

    With age come honesty and wisdom. He is a senile lying old man. And I am old enough and have the privilege of calling he just that.

  • Jim Maloney

    It’s been interesting to see Bernie consistently losing for 62 of the last 73 days since the first vote was cast. That trajectory has been consistent. His campaign hasn’t outlined any plan to change that and win. Frequent goalpost moving.

  • Christian Volet

    Let the offensive nature of the word “whore” flow through your veins. You will soon become sith.

  • Christian Volet

    The singular ‘they’ has no alternative agenda in this context. Thanks for your love, though.

  • Niki

    I noticed that at the rally tonight.

  • dannythetrucker

    You moron, he got money from the DSCC when running for senator. Well, maybe you aren’t a moron. Maybe you’re just a liar.

  • Christian Volet

    It’s called americablog because it shows how fucking dumb most of America is.

  • AdrianLesher

    Obviously. It would be redundant to say that about just any Republican. But there certainly Democrats who very avidly support corporate and Wall Street interests. The death of the DLC didn’t make them all go away.

  • dannythetrucker

    That’s your dis on Bernie ? That he brought good jobs to his state as senator ? bwaaahaaahaaaa

  • bbock

    Barney Frank is a corporate whore.

  • Christian Volet

    Non Sequitur is probably my favorite thing in the world. I guess you’re right?

  • Iain Tweedy

    Cool. Lamest headline I’ve seen here in like 5 minutes.

  • I can easily tell you are a graduate of the Berner School for Non Sequiturs.

  • TiberiusB
  • Iain Tweedy

    You are not actually familiar with Senator Sanders. But that is who you is,

  • Christian Volet

    your point #1 says “When you’re opponent…”

    I can’t even take this article seriously when you haven’t passed 3rd grade English.

  • I sold out long before you ever even read this article…..

  • Niki

    So if your friend called a random black person the n-word you would just laugh and avoid addressing the issue?

  • TiberiusB

    He apologized for his poor word choice. He specifically said he wasn’t talking about Hillary. Why do democrats or Democrats need an apology? Are you saying they are all corporate tools?

  • Shoot4themoon

    You’re adorable. And, if I may make a suggestion, since that’s what we’re doing, if you want to make the political process as pure as you imagine Bernie Sanders to be, consider getting out of the comment section and doing something yourself to create the world of your imagination.

  • First, love the use of the third person singular ‘they’.

    Secondly, to the apologists:

    Those of us ACTUALLY fighting for a better America and a better world have ABSOLUTELY NO DOUBT that language like ‘whore’ has NO PLACE in politics or political discourse. Period.

    https://www.facebook.com/therationalprogressive/

  • Niki

    Sanders policies are flawed but supporters like you show the ugliness of his campaign. If Trump’s message was more positive but his followers still acted violently would you still vote for him?

  • Shoot4themoon

    Darling, Davie, calling someone an idiot may make you feel better in the moment but it is an entirely ineffective method of getting your point across. Which, I’m sure, was your intention.

  • Shoot4themoon

    Go back and read the news. Hillary Clinton has been in the news for over 30 years and the GOP has been attacking her the entire time.

  • TiberiusB

    Such logic! Act expressly on the behalf of corporate benefactors to the detriment of your constituents and you are the same as someone using a cell phone or laptop to do their homework, work their job, or simply talk to their family. That’s some good thinkin’.

  • Htowndude

    If you let comments, and not policy positions dictate your vote, you were never going to vote for Sanders, anyway.

  • FELESMALAS

    You’d better include Bernie in that list. According to Open Secrets, Bernie too has accepted funding from corporations and Wall Street. Is “Saint Bernie” bought too or does he get a ‘free pass’ again because you like Mr. Hot Mess Grandpa?

  • Niki

    Dictionary definition vs. Insult. Everyone knows what the definition of a whore is. Doesn’the stop people from attaching the word to people it doesn’the apply to. Bitching is a female dog yet women get called batches on a daily basis. Pushy is a cat but is used to describe the vagina. Gay is defined as happy but is used to describe a homosexual.

  • FELESMALAS

    His supporters LOVED that line. You need 3 guesses to figure out why?? Bernie, hey how much sucking did you have to do to get LOCKHEED-MARTIN to build the F35 in Vermont? Gag much, did you? #BernieWhoYouCallingAWhore

  • Donna Byrd

    “Medicare for All will never happen if we continue to elect corporate Democratic whores who are beholden to Big Pharma and the private insurance industry instead of us.”

  • TiberiusB

    When has the GOP EVER mentioned Guatemala, Brazil, Columbia, Ecuador, Libya, Iraq, Syria or anything other then Benghazi as an attack on Clinton?

  • Donna Byrd

    It’s a Shill ;)

  • Chicktoo2

    he was talking about Congress that gets their marching orders through lobbyists who work for the ALEC organization. Google ALEC, it will only take you a minute to find out how all of this works and why corporations have a choke hold on this government and why we are all getting taken for a ride…one that I don’t care for. How about you?

  • Donna Byrd

    Reply to this? “Medicare for All will never happen if we continue to elect corporate Democratic whores who are beholden to Big Pharma and the private insurance industry instead of us.” It really is a wonder these bought Politicians are not called worse Names!

  • TiberiusB

    My wife didn’t care. She knew what he meant and didn’t even react when I read the quote. Expecting a word which has been broadly used to describe a host of individuals, male and female, engaging in virtually any and all activities to simply disappear and never be used again under any circumstances is absurd. Push to eliminate “whore” from the language, but don’t expect to never here it again for quite some time.

  • Niki

    Comments like these are why I would not vote for Sanders.

  • Polar Girl

    Clinton ordering Iowa supporters not to speak to the press:

    http://www.msnbc.com/up/watch/clinton-campaign-to-backers–avoid-the-press-486957123585

  • Niki

    True. If you tell Trump he has to take responsibility for his followers then Sanders must lead by example. Even John McCain had more class to correct a woman at his rally that called Obama out of his name.

  • Chicktoo2

    Check out the blogger’s background…he has taken you for a ride.

  • Polar Girl

    Trump supporters are voting against their economic best interests but otherwise, it is a feature of a Trump rally rather than a Sanders rally.

    I was just trying to make the point that the only thing two people need to have in common to vote fir Sanders is the desire not to vote against their economic best interests like sheeple do. Otherwise, people can hate each other and they are not Sanders’ responsibility since the only thing asked of them is their votes.

  • Niki

    Whore is always used to describe a woman and I don’the see any other Democrat or female Democrat running against Sanders. Also Sanders is always going on about how Hillary has been bought by Wallstreet. Doesn’the take a genius to connect the dots.

  • TiberiusB

    I know it’s a typo, but this is the best post here…

  • TiberiusB

    Except when black protestors show up, or Greenpeace activists, or Code Pink, or 350 Action, and so on…

  • Niki

    He didn’the say it but he didn’the correct it either. Silence is just as bad.

  • timncguy

    Because he said her name in the sentence leading into the statement.

  • timncguy

    But, no Republicans because he said Democratic

  • TiberiusB

    Party over principle! Yeah!

  • TiberiusB

    “Stupid old man” Ageism! Nice.

  • Niki

    It ticks me off when Sanders people say I should be ashamed of myself for not supporting him because I’m a person of color. Get over it.

  • TiberiusB

    Because aren’t Dems trying to oust Republicans all the time? Isn’t that sort of the baseline?

    Because being a corporate tool is a GOP requirement, but being a corporate Dem enables the opposition and is, in many ways, more insidious and damaging? Too obvious?

  • Donna Byrd

    Your Title is misleading ! Bernie Sanders did not say this so u might just be one of the pundits what look for a cheap shot

  • TiberiusB

    How? Hillary isn’t in office. She can’t be “kicked out”, ergo, he was talking about compromised Dems who represent the will of the 1% over the rest. But, this is another Avarosis hit piece, so I, carry on, I guess.

  • AdrianLesher

    He said he was taking about “some in Congress.”

  • DaBoss

    Honestly I don’t care. This is a waste of time. Dr. Song said a lot of meaningful things and this was definitely not one of them.

  • TiberiusB

    I think what should be clear by now is that all the HRC boosters here are corporate democratic whores and are deeply offended at being called out.

  • Chicktoo2

    Mr. Paul Y. Song used the plural “whores”, denoting more than one person which most people including this “blogger” John Arovosis certainly does understand. His education is that he holds a joint law degree and masters in Foreign Service from Georgetown University, thus he knows exactly what the Mr. Song was saying. Paul Y. Song was not speaking of Hillary as he did not use the word whore, and Mr. Arovosis knows that. Maybe more Americans need a course in Reading Comprehension, and perhaps Mr. Arovosis has a particular candidate he wants to push, or was he paid by somebody to create problems for Mr. Sanders? Is anybody questioning Mr. Arovosis’ reason to deliberately lead them astray in writing this? I wonder.

  • TiberiusB

    Uhh, the spouses of journalists are allowed to have political identities and speak their minds in public. If Lisa Ling ever does a puff piece on Sanders and doesn’t stop to point out that her husband supports him, you might have a point.

  • dannythetrucker

    Hillary events are pretty classy boy, everyone has fun and then all five of them go to DQ for ice cream on the way back to the nursing home.

  • TiberiusB

    Don’t bother, read the comments and you’ll see that reason has no place here.

  • dannythetrucker

    Bernie has more Labor Unions and actors, you’ve been misinformed. no surprise considering your candidate is a liar.

  • TiberiusB

    Wow, the wild delusions that cloud the minds of rabid HRC boosters is a sight to behold. Calling out Dems in Congress who are corporate sell outs is a slur against Democrats in general? Sanders doesn’t like Democrats? I’m guessing he gets along with the odd one or two. And how are the words of a supporter automatically “from someone who isn’t a Democrat”? Please explain how that makes any sense. Is it the team or the candidate that matters?

  • dannythetrucker

    Why did you automatically think of Hillary when you heard he said corporate Democratic whore ?

  • Davie Graham

    Hell yeah, and Hillary was standing right next to her when she said that and started cracking up laughing. It really Rick’s me off when people call Sanders supporters sexist, that comment about woman needing to vote for other woman or they could go to hell, was extremely sexist, and almost no one is saying it! It’s also extremely manipulative, by that logic every woman should have voted for Sarah Palin!

  • dannythetrucker

    It is offensive that Hillary is such a corporate whore. You should find a candidate who isn’t a corporate whore to support.

  • timncguy

    so, we are claiming he called Democrats, including Hillary Clinton, whores.

  • Angela Walker

    Nothing quite so funny as a Bernie bro taking exception to being called a Bernie bro. What name would you prefer we use to refer to abusive, lying, misogynistic Bernie fans?

  • timncguy

    your explanation doesn’t even match his explanation. He is claiming that he was talking about “congress” in general. Of course, this rings false since he specified Democrats.

  • alwaysthink

    Give it up, your from Karl Rove.

    There is no real Dem who wants tRump or Cruz in the White House. And the most “corporate” Dem is better and any GOP any day of the week.

  • Angela Walker

    Will you all ever start talking policy and serious issues or will it always be parroting the same old bs vague truisms and fact free rants? I’m betting on the latter.

  • alwaysthink

    Dr. Paul Song is well known in California. As a famous Oncologist, owner of several BioTech firms, and a champion for the CA Public Option for many years until recently when he’s switched to a Medicare for All meme. Here’s his bio at one of his firms: http://www.cynvenio.com/team-and-board/2015/9/3/paul-y-song-md

    For those of you not from CA, The Courage Campaign is a major Progressive Watchdog organization in the state. As a result of his activism Dr. Song is now it’s Executive Chairman.

    The language he is using is completely beneath a man of his education, experience and stature. And especially bad to come from someone who heads a major Progressive organization that never endorses candidates. It’s focus is issues and the discussion of those issues. They also organize for and against various bills in the state house.

    Here is another link to The Courage Campaign page with Dr Songs bio http://www.couragecampaign.org/who-we-are

    The other twist here is that along with hailing from a famous family in Korean politics, he is also married to Lisa Ling. And you may remember that Bill Clinton negotiated the release of Song’s SIL when she and a friend had been captured by the North Koreans.

    Song is not some whack a doodle actor or rapper. The kind of hate language he used tonight is not acceptable in our politics. Progressives, Liberals, Dems should be better than this.

  • Chicktoo2

    Excuse me, but all the ranting and raving within these comments is about the singular use of whore, but that is not what the gentleman said. He used the plural “whores”. Does anybody know how to read anymore? Just wondering. It seems so elementary to me.

  • Sue

    Yes, very bad choice of words but most knew what he meant… The neoliberal arm of the Democratic Party that takes corporate money and claims they aren’t affected by it as they pass legislation literally written by their lobbyists.

  • Crime Reporter

    Calling Third Way Dems corporate whores is NOT more offenive than telling me I’m going to Hell. Bullshit.

  • Chicktoo2

    He did not call her a whore. He used the word “whores”. The truth is that there are some Democratic “pols” who are whores who take money, campaign contributions, if you will, from corporations and do their bidding instead of their constituents who voted for them. Google ALEC organization and find out About that organization abd how the corporations are getting laws passed to suit their needs, not yours, by the lobbyists who are employed by them. It will only take you a minute to understand how this government is bought and paid for by corporations through ALEC who let the Congressmepan know what the law is to pass in order yo benefit thrm, not you. That has nothing to do with any individual.

  • timncguy

    the idea that Bernie can make a generic statement that he isn’t responsible for what his surrogates say at the start of a campaign and that somehow frees him from criticism is asinine.

  • Crime Reporter

    He said CORPORATE Democratic whore. The very people this woman who has voted Democratic for 28 years will no longer support, including Hillary.

  • DaBoss

    The word “whore” was used to describe those politicians who enjoy a cushy lifestyle courtesy of corporate america at the expense of the American people. This guy’s whole speech was about how his patients die or go into abysmal debt because the healthcare system is broken. THAT IS WHAT WE SHOULD BE TALKING ABOUT.

  • Roni

    Sanders thanked him for his comments. He had the perfect chance to condemn his words but decided to thank him instead. Sorry there is NO backing out of this one.

  • timncguy

    this is far more offensive than anything said by Madeline Albright and Gloria Steinham. They were both forced to apologize and Clinton was asked to address their statements as well. In fact the media covered those statements for days. I expect the same level of coverage from the media for this.

    His apology was a non-apology and unbelievable. He claims he was talking about some in congress. But, he didn’t say congressional whores, he said corporate DEMOCRATIC whores.

  • Mawm

    When?

  • Mawm

    They can’t help themselves, and their hate cult leader doesn’t want to stop them.

  • AdrianLesher

    (1)Sanders didn’t say this, (2)The person who did apologized for his language. The outrage over this is over the top. As far as offensive remarks go, I think HRC and Bill Diblasio got treated pretty easily about their CPT jokes.

  • TiberiusB

    So, to be clear, only actors you deem to be “A list” get to have a voice in politics? Do any Hillary supporters think no one died as a result of our invasion of Iraq, bombing of Libya, the coup in Honduras, our financial and military assistance to the rebels in Syria, etc., all actions supported by Senator/Sec. of State Clinton? Do you know what a straw man is? When did Ms. Dawson whine about voting procedures? She mentioned registration changes, not voting. Everyone is guaranteed the right to vote, regardless of party affiliation, so long as they are registered at the county level. Primary rules vary from state to state, so there is no one law Rosario could change to reform the system. Besides, simply shifting to semi-closed primaries would allow independents to participate, but block Republicans. Only 11 states run fully closed primaries, with New York a part of that group, and that directly benefits Clinton. If HRC boosters are honest, they really want to block late comers to the party, regardless of whether it’s really smart policy to effectively mount a voter “anti-registration” drive, because those voters overwhelmingly break for Sanders. Regardless, if the late registrations were allowed, you’d have MORE Dems picking the Democratic nominee, so I’m not sure how you’ve made your point about Rosario being against the Dems picking Dem nominees. For someone who doesn’t seem to know what a straw man is, you sure do use them enough.

  • Davie Graham

    No you idiot, as Secretary of state she helped over throw several different government s in order to replace them with people they could control, that’s why the former president and VP of Guatamala are in jail right now. And likely what’s behind the coupe currently going on in Brazil. As for what I said about her blind support of Israels policy’s you think I’m talking Republican talking points? No if you want Republican talking points listen to hillary’s AIPAC speach. There is a reason you don’t know about this stuff, and it’s the same reason you likely don’t know about the Panama papers or the Clinton s 4 separate businesses that have been tied to a single address in Delaware that has 280,000 other business registered to it ( it’s a tax Haven if you can’t figure that out).

  • timncguy

    and did he name Hillary specifically in the sentence leading directly into the whore comment?

    if you believe he was talking about congress in general why did he specifically say DEMOCRATIC?

  • Paulezy

    Sometimes the truth hurts. Suck it up buttercups. If that whore puts out pay her or him well.

  • Mawm

    I’ve been to plenty of Hillary rallies. There is no micromanagement. Everyone has fun and no one gets nasty. Bernie rallies have devolved into hate cult raves.

  • DaBoss

    No i didn’t read it. I watched it happen 50 feet in front of me and heard the entire speech with my own two ears.

  • steeler_fan_rene

    Catty women…. it’s nice to be nice……

  • dannythetrucker

    Thank you, I didn’t think I fit the profile. Here’s a novel idea. If you don’t like your candidate being called a corporate whore, support a candidate who isn’t a corporate whore.

  • Shoot4themoon

    Bernie seems perfectly happy taking from Democrats when it suits him.

  • Mawm

    Did you read the context? It’s obvious he was talking about Hillary without mentioning her.

  • Shoot4themoon

    You’re regurgitating GOP talking points.

  • Shoot4themoon

    Example ‘A’ for a Bernie Bro, right here.

  • dannythetrucker

    neither is vocabulary

  • timncguy

    Joy Reid, an MSNBC correspondent, is on twitter calling the event a “book properly closed” simply because Dr Song tweeted a non-apology apology. Of course, he didn’t apologize to Hillary or democrats. Just claimed he was talking about “congress” even though he specified Democrats and not congress.

  • RKitty01

    Lisa Ling is not an actress. She’s a “journalist” on CNN. Can anyone else say conflict of interest here?

  • Marti Salvato

    Nope. You can’t have Progressive. That’s been taken. Emprog prog purists or fundies could work, though.

  • RealityChic5

    And Bernie must likewise be scrutinized. No FREE passes for hate speech.

  • Cheydancer

    Hmmm. That’s really strange since MSNBC seems to be behind Mrs. Clinton, at least, Rachel Maddow is. (I adore Rachel Maddow, by the way).

    Reaction has already hit online via twitter, and of course a few online publications… Blue Nation Review, The Daily KoS, The Democratic Underground, Politics Points, to name a few.

    Broadcast news seems to be much slower than the internet, but I’d give it a day. Rachel may have some choice words and it will probably blow through quite a few news stations… unless they *really* don’t want any air time to go to Bernie… positive or negative.

  • Davie Graham

    Do you have any idea the evils that Hillary Clinton has done? Look up her involvement with Guatamala, Brazil, Colombia, Honduras, Ecuador, and Libya, and those are just the ones I’m aware of. It is no accident that she is friends with the war criminal Henry Kissinger! And her speach at AIPAC was absolutely identical to the ones given by Trump and Cruz, for votes she defended Israel murdering thousands of inacent people many many hundreds under the age of 5 years old! To support her, makes you an accomplice.

  • Marti Salvato

    So let’s see, little fella. You an American? What’s in your electronic stash? Laptop and a cellphone at a minimum, I guess. Bought from corporations, no less. Big corporations, probably. Yuge, even! Using some corporation or another to log in and make this bold statement. Welcome to Whoredom.

  • Gracie Bean

    Could you imagine if any other candidate’s surrogate said this?? And of course Sanders will not apologize: he is agrees with it, but can’t say it right now. But this is who is !

  • RealityChic5

    The remarks sums up the mindset of the Sanders contingent when they think they can ‘let their hair down.’ Just vulgar and divisive. Someone with such distaste for Democrats should not be seeking the Democratic Nomination.

  • timncguy

    not one word has been mentioned on MSNBC about it although they have covered the Sanders’ rally where it happened.

  • Tristan Hackney

    Get out of here! I was at the rally. His wife is a Hilary supporter and his family member was retrieved from North Korea by HILLARY CLINTON. He was not talking about Hillary when he used the words “democratic whores”. If you’re going to write a piece about something said at the rally at least use something that has a grain of substance to it. HE WAS REFERRING TO THE PLETHORA OF USELESS BOUGHT POLITICIANS IN CONGRESS AND THE SENATE. I know this because I was actually there. When the crowd boo’d Hillary’s name he quieted them and explained many of his friends and family support Hillary. To all you others posting here. Be careful where you get your news and what you choose to believe without any fact checking.

  • Marti Salvato

    Newsflash: you on a Smartphone? A laptop? Using a calling plan? An internet subscription service? Welcome to corporate whoredom.

  • Ken

    Your 3 paragraphs talks about Hillary and her campaign. You never address what Bernie’s surrogate said. You must think it’s pretty bad not to even comment on it. Hillary’s the problem because she runs a tight shit. Got it.

  • 4wonderland

    Just like Trump. Sanders is pulling out all the nasty stops. Way to go Bernie great support for your PARTY way to win those Super Delegates. You stupid old man go back to VT. You are helping the REPUBLICANS

  • Davie Graham

    And y’all wonder why you are called the establishment? And by the way though she got a lot of Union bosses that endorsed her, almost all of the members of those union’s are for bernie

  • MaryLF

    Sanders thanked the speaker.

  • Marti Salvato

    Right, because nutsack scrotum gigolo is so 2015

  • Marti Salvato

    “Even racists, misogynists, homophobes, and transphobes that are voting for Bernie because they aren’t dumb enough to vote against their economic best interests is fine”
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Uh, the Trump rally is that away.

  • Polar Girl

    Controlling supporters is a Hillary thing since it is necessary to advance venality.

    An honest decent candidate for the people doesn’t need to control what their supporters say hence aren’t responsible for what they say.

  • MaryLF

    Age is not a measure of maturity.

  • MaryLF

    Try convincing any woman that that was not a truly terrible thing to say.

  • Cheydancer

    I am sure they will. After all, they pressed him about the so-called ‘Bernie Bros’ without realizing, apparently, that internet trolling is a thing and both camps have trolls that are absolutely horrendous, as well as those who manage to stay polite and on topic. :)

  • Marti Salvato

    I’ve had enough. Seen enough. Heard enough.

  • timncguy

    I didn’t say Clinton apologized. I said the media asked her directly to address the issue of both women’s statements. Now, I will wait for the media to ask Sanders to address Dr Song’s statement. Let’s hold everyone to the same standards please.

  • Jim

    VERY low class. Extremely low, worse than Trump. I’ll vote for Trump before I will vote for Comrade Sanders. His wife should look under her third chin for those tax returns he won’t make public. RELEASE THE TAX RETURNS NOW! “BURNIE” BEFORE YOU DROP DEAD.

  • Cheydancer

    You know. I am surprised that I didn’t see her response before since I read the Guardian regularly. She didn’t apologize. She defended both ladies. But I suppose we should heed her words in this instance as well…

    ““I don’t want people to be offended,” Clinton said. But when asked if
    she understood why some women did take offense, she suggested political
    correctness had made Americans overly sensitive.

    “Good grief, we’re getting offended by everything these days!” she said.
    “People can’t say anything without offending somebody.”

    http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/feb/07/hillary-clinton-defends-madeleine-albright-women-female-voters

  • LH

    What an idiotic “defense” of a tasteless and insulting comment. Seriously? Then none of Sanders’ supporters will mind referring to their candidate as a Progressive bastard (bastard. an offensive or disagreeable person).

  • LH

    Well, since he’s a doctor, maybe that was a Freudian slip. Regardless, this is one Dem who will be voting for the REAL Dem, Hillary.

  • Wowzee! And according to Wikipedia, Lisa is a Hillary supporter… Good luck Doc!

  • dannythetrucker

    38 yr old small business owner. Nope, we don’t stop. From 3% to 49% and still rising nationally. Hillary has gone from 60% to 46% and falling.

  • TiberiusB

    Except for the calls for violence, explicit racism, anti-abortion tirades, jingoistic pandering, routine calls for mass deportation, outright endorsement of torture, a penchant for 24/7 dishonesty, and orange fake and bake tans, there really is no difference.

    Nailed it.

  • Doug105

    Those links aren’t working well.

  • wolfsongca

    Bernie loves it. It’s starts with him.

  • NaphiSoc

    Sanders is TOTALLY out of control

  • timncguy

    You need to check your news reels because Clinton was asked directly by reporters to address the statements of BOTH Albright and Steinham. So, let’s all hold our breath waiting for the same reporters to ask Sanders to address this statement

  • Borrowing pages out of the Sarah Palin playbook now?

  • S.L

    second PAC — http://www.ibtimes.com/...

    What makes this hysterical is that Bernie had a line in his standard stump speech, screeching about the evils of PACs. Right after he was busted for getting PAC help, he swiftly removed the line from his speech.

    Almost a thousand other Sanders donors have been busted by the FEC for violating campaign finance laws. The FEC also busted the Sanders campaign itself for not reporting the money properly, threatening an audit. By February, Bernie’s campaign had committed so many violations of campaign law that the FEC was forced to write a 43-page report just to make a PARTIAL list of the crimes. It apparently includes dozens and dozens of foreign donors, a big no-no. But it doesn’t include ALL of the people who violated the law in funneling illegal money to the Sanders campaign, and it doesn’t mention the PAC that illegally funded Sanders either. Read for yourself:

    docquery.fec.gov/…

  • Dee

    Thank you.

  • Dee

    Nothingness even close..

  • Dee

    Sorry, democratic whore to be precise. Regardless, Bernie needs to put a stop to this.. This is no different than a trump rally.

  • Dee

    You kids don’t stop do you.

  • Dee

    Bernie needs to controls his supporters.. Getting out of of hand!!!

  • Cheydancer

    I held Madeline Albright responsible for what Madeline Albright said. And I held Gloria Steinem responsible for what Gloria Steinem said.

    Both statements were foolish and not thought through very well.

    I think it’s funny how no one called for Mrs. Clinton to apologize when someone who supports her steps in it, but when a Bernie Sanders’ supporter steps in it, not only do they want them to apologize, but they want to hear it from Mr. Sanders and they want Mr. Sanders to distance himself from his supporter. Why is that?

  • timncguy

    well, let’s see if this gets the kind of national TV press coverage as what Bill or other Clinton surrogates have said. I doubt it will.

  • Vicki Stuart

    Such wonderful surrogates BS has Killer Mike, Susan Sarandon, One Senator from Oregon, Rosario Dawson (I had never heard of her), Tim Robbins Susan Sarandon’s ex-husband and a used to be actor, Dr. Cornel West, and Nina Walker a used to be office holder from Ohio. Hillary has every A-List actor you can think of, nearly all the labor unions, all of the democratic senators except the one from Oregon, writers, all the major office holders past and present from Vermont, and too many others to mention.

  • chuck

    Can I take y’all back to the time that Bill Clinton personally flew to North Korea to negotiate the release of Laura Ling. Years later, her sister’s husband calls Hillary a whore.

  • Kobi

    Hillary has had surrogates say questionable things too. That’s not an indication of her.

  • Kobi

    I’ve criticized what they’ve all said, but never equivocated them to being Hillary’s opinion. I’m very clear on that actually. What people’s supporters say and do are not an indication of their beliefs.

  • Doug105

    I’d be ashamed if I had to up-vote myself, but maybe that’s just me.

  • Polar Girl

    That is exactly what the oxymoronic Corporate Democrats are — Democratic Whores!

    Just because Hillary runs a tightly scripted, micromanaged campaign to cover her dishonesty doesn’t mean Bernie Sanders is responsible for the things his supporters say. Even racists, misogynists, homophobes, and transphobes that are voting for Bernie because they aren’t dumb enough to vote against their economic best interests is fine.

    Since Bernie doesn’t control like Hillary, he isn’t as responsible for what people say on his behalf. Venal Hillarybots will never grasp the concept of allowing supporters to speak freely since her campaign could not possibly survive without micromanagement. She really does need to stop projecting her tactics onto Bernie.

  • S. Parilla

    Awkward. Bernie’s taken a lot more money from many more people, and his campaign has become markedly dirty in the last few weeks..

  • dannythetrucker

    You mean the money he got from the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee ??you disgusting lying liar who lies. It’s pretty sick when you are in a campaign which encourages decietfullness. but that does happen when you support a corporate Democratic whore.

  • Sarah brownstone

    The dictionary defines whore as: a woman who has sex for money OR describing someone who is money hungry. The person who wrote this is ignoring one of the legitimate definitions of this word and trying to create a sensationalist article. Either that or the person has a limited knowledge of the English language which is an unfortunate quality in a reporter.

  • Davie Graham

    Do you seriously think the way you dismissivly write of any and all male Bernie supporters by calling them Berniebros (Hillary also called Obama supporters Obamaboys(wich also has racist undertones)) isn’t the definition of a double standard and there for sexist? Your expoliting gender in a discuting way and have absolutely no respect for equality amongst people.

  • stellalimelight

    It’s at his rally. He needs to stop this.

  • dannythetrucker

    Bill is a corporate whore too

  • timncguy

    So, this means that you’ve never held Hillary responsible for what Bill has said? You said nothing about what Madeline Albright said? Nothing about what Gloria Steinham said? You’re clear on that, right??

  • beaverbutt

    Didn’t take long the Bros to show up and mount a defense of misogynistic slurs.

  • dannythetrucker

    a whore is one who takes money to do dirty favors, if the shoe fits wear it

  • Steve Johnson

    Lazy? Ummm you support the one who’s lazy. Never worked a real job in his life, sucked off the government tit most of his years….and you call us lazy…….LOL…bitch please

  • Laura Hoey

    #BernieWhichWhore

  • Brent Showers

    This isn’t journalism

  • Davie Graham

    Look at the title of this article! What kind of journalism is this? Yiu r trying to make it look like Bernie said that! Also the speaker clearly said corporate-whore, that is not a sexist term. Though its a strange one cause it’s the American people getting screwed not Hillary Clinton.

  • Brent Showers

    It’s one thing to say what a speaker says it’s another to give context to it. We all know democrats today like republican are sellout to big corporations and Wall Street. They are whores to these businesses or come from them like Hillary and Walmart or Kasich and corporate America

  • Kobi

    Bernie has said in the past that what his surrogates say is their own opinion, not his. This is an obvious attempt to make Bernie out to be someone that he is not. It’s one thing to report on what the speaker said, it’s something completely different to attempt to imply Bernie shares the same belief. This is journalistically unethical and you should be ashamed.

  • Christine Olea

    Wow

  • Brent Showers

    The context of it was to kick out democrats who are whores to Wall Street selling their virtues for money . Like Barney frank did.

  • timncguy

    well, you have to take what you can get

  • Fran

    Four of the biggest donors to Bernie’s campaign for Senate were Goldman Sachs, Citigroup, Morgan Stanley and Morgan Chase. Those kind of “corporate Dems?”

  • Phil in FLL

    kick out the “Democratic whores” and replace them with “Bernie-crats”

    Not Democrats, but Bernie-crats. That sounds like a third party. If that’s not the speaker’s intention, then why not just say “Bernie supporters?”

  • Fran

    “Some of the people running?” More straw men (women)? Spell it out Rosario and stop hiding behind your demagoguery. And if you want to whine about voting procedures then run for office and change election law. Everyone is competing with the same rules – we’re supposed to change them because you don’t like Dems choosing a Democratic nominee? Lastly, does anyone really care what a B List actress has to say about politics? Why is this woman a surrogate?

  • timncguy

    squirrel !!!!!

  • timncguy

    Now Rosario Dawson is speaking

    Rosario Dawson onstage at the #bernierally now. Says “too many people have died because of the policies of some of the people running.”

    Dawson hits closed NY primary, says “7,000 Suffolk County voters just
    got letters saying you haven’t changed your registration in time.”

  • Fran

    This campaign really attracts winning surrogates. Either Bernie agrees with this inflammatory and insulting language or he needs to apply some discipline re: who speaks for him. ‘Tis ugly stuff and isn’t helping him win over new voters outside this narrow coalition.

  • Fran

    Well apparently they’re not working hard enough because they are losing.

  • Voodoo Chile

    I don’t like that term either, and I am a Bernie supporter.

    Anyways, since John is very concerned about such language, I wonder how he feels that his site has turned into a place where liberal politicians and voters get called the following: racists, sexists, communists, parasites, scum of the earth. Where they are told to get out of the county or die.

    Is this language indicative of the Hillary campaign? Can I start writing articles about how Hillary wants Bernie Sanders to die within a month, like AmericaBloggers were salivating for in the other thread? I mean, at the very least I can use the logic of John Aravosis to say that John Aravosis is calling for the death of left-of-center politicians, right?

  • timncguy

    Then, Tim Robbins was speaking and said, per Joy Reid’s tweet:

    Robbins says Sanders is winning young people, independents and “the people who do the hard work.”

    Which I guess means that the Clinton supporters are “lazy”

  • angryspittle

    Would corporate Democrat be more acceptable?

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