Donald Trump’s mass deportation timeline is logistically and morally insane

Donald Trump expanded on his plan to deport eleven million undocumented immigrants — perhaps along with their family members who have citizenship — in a call with supporters and journalists last night. According to Trump, who has previously said that he will get Mexico to pay for a big, beautiful wall with a big, beautiful door separating us from our southern neighbor, he can round up and kick out every last one of the people in our country illegally in anywhere from 18 months to two years:

To put that in perspective, that’s between 458,000 and 611,000 deportations per month. Trump is essentially saying that it is not only possible but necessary to take the equivalent of the population of Boston and forcibly remove them the country. Or, put another way:

In the entire year of 2013, the Obama administration oversaw a record 438,000 deportations. Trump wants to multiply that by twelve. At least.

Let’s be clear: You don’t get from point A to point B on this plan with “management.” Baked into Trump’s assertion that he can execute this plan in, at most, two years if it’s “properly handled” is nothing less than the transformation of the United States into a dystopian police state, with the racial profiling, disregard for privacy rights, nighttime police raids and generalized paranoia to match. And even then, comprehensive mass deportation would still be a logistical impossibility.

Donald Trump, via Gage Skidmore / Flickr

Donald Trump, via Gage Skidmore / Flickr

What’s more, the plan is estimated to cost (because someone bothered to crunch the numbers on your angry uncle’s wet dream) upwards of 166 BILLION dollars, so in the obvious scenario in which Congress tells Donald Trump that his mass deportation plan has about as good a chance of passing as he has of playing striker for Cruz Azul, he won’t be able to self-fund the venture.

But for Trump’s supporters, none of these “facts” or “political realities” or “moral disasters” matter.

Bear in mind that, for many of Trump’s supporters — and many Americans — being president is thought to be an awful lot like being the boss on The Apprentice. They think the president sits in a room, barks out tasks, evaluates performance and fires the right people for the right reasons when things go south. Coincidentally, this is also the version of Donald Trump they most closely associate him with — not his failed casino ventures or whites-only apartments. So when Trump says that he’ll hire “incredible people” and manage them well enough to accomplish impossible goals, that makes perfect sense to an alarming number of people.

Even if there’s nothing there behind the overt white nationalism and bloviation.


Jon Green graduated from Kenyon College with a B.A. in Political Science and high honors in Political Cognition. He worked as a field organizer for Congressman Tom Perriello in 2010 and a Regional Field Director for President Obama's re-election campaign in 2012. Jon writes on a number of topics, but pays especially close attention to elections, religion and political cognition. Follow him on Twitter at @_Jon_Green, and on Google+. .

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  • east297

    Amen!!!

  • Scrodent

    He’s getting rid of the lazy and doing God’s work!

  • Scrodent

    I’ll do even better than that amateur! When God makes me Dictator of the Universe next year I’m having a total ethnic and religious cleansing of the world beginning with the United States first! My Final Solution will indeed by the final one ever.

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  • UncleBucky

    Trump says he will hire incredible people. The first thought I went to (right or wrong) was the image of this guy:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcyLRTB9fRY

  • UncleBucky

    Jobs. Construction. Guards guarding the guards guarding the detainees. Food services. Health services. Legal services. Deportation could replace the declining tech industry. Hah.

  • She/he/it has been banned.

  • UncleBucky

    Don’t feed the troll, boys and girls.

  • UncleBucky

    Meh. Hitler made the trains run on time. So could Trump with equally “good management”. Ptui.

  • susie

    The illegals have been given a free ride by Obama and have become unbelievably emboldened. Contrary to the media’s portrayal, they are a highly cunning and manipulative population. They play up the sympathy card “Don’t break up families!!!” But make no mistake – they are using the US taxpayer and are a most ungrateful lot. TRUMP 2016 !!!

  • Shorter Trump: If Germany can start a pogrom against 6 million Jews, I can double that!

  • Mike_in_the_Tundra

    Wouldn’t concentration camps and ovens be more effective?

  • 2karmanot

    :-)

  • K Brown

    You are absolutely correct. The Muslims are already robbing, raping, and killing people in Europe.

  • K Brown

    Trump’s deportation policy is logistically impossible. You can’t deport 30 million people in 18 months. And there is no way to rid the country of all of them. But you can deport most of them…and it’ll take 6-10 years to accomplish that. First you resume workplace raids, which is always effective, since most illegal aliens have to go to work. The second part is have ICE deployed outside the social service centers(welfare office) and require proof of legal residency when people apply for benefits. If they cannot furnish the necessary documents then the feds can take custody of them. Third, employ the same methods at colleges, where you are more likely to encounter DREAMERS and folks like that. Finally, expand the program called “voluntary departure”, which allows people who’ve admitted to wrong doing to leave in lieu of deportation. This plan is less glamorous but a lot more effective if carried out.

  • Bill_Perdue

    We know that people are paid to post for the RNC and the DNC. Maybe he’s one of the RNC staff. It makes no difference, ‘guest’ is racist who lies through his teeth.

  • Jim Olson

    Monitor? Seriously. This is the second one of these I’ve seen here tonight. Quality control is slipping, people.

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    “you’re a racist and an inveterate liar.”

    i.e., standard, garden variety Teahadist…

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    Troll is gone

  • Bill_Perdue

    Anyone who reads your comment history can immediately figure out that you’re a racist and an inveterate liar.

  • guest

    Yes, you’re correct. Obama undermining the African American community and hastening the decline of Western Civilization is racist. But…

    Why do we progressives support these tendencies and policies?

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    Troll be gone

  • Bill_Perdue

    Racist garbage.

  • guest

    Obama’s pandering to illegals at the expense of the African American community IS INSANE. Obama wants to grow poverty and crime.

    People, why do we progressives support these tendencies and policies?

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  • JaneE

    Trump’s plans sound like pogroms and ethnic cleansing. Plays well to the white supremacist crowd.

  • flattaxman

    BOTH POLITICAL PARTIES ARE COMPLICIT
    IN THE ILLEGAL ALIEN INVASION AND DONALD TRUMP WILL END THIS TRAVESTY AGAINST
    THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.

    IT’S absolutely nonsense to even
    believe that both political parties are honest about the illegal alien invasion?
    The statistics from the Census is as corrupt as this Administration, with the fudged
    population numbers just repeated lies. The once great state of California is now a tarnished
    replica of its once golden day’s, as they say legal and illegal aliens are now
    the majority over citizens. Since Obama took office nobody has told the truth
    about the incursion, which attributes to why Donald Trump has escalated to the
    top of the polls? What Mr. Trump said in his commencement speech was the truth and
    has not been stifled by the asinine ‘Political correct policing that usually
    silences the less plucky politician in the lower pecking order. It is the same
    with any personages or public speaker, excluding a few who dare to speak out on
    any issue?

    I LIKE BEN CARSON BUT MY DOUBTS ARE
    THERE; WHEREAS TRUMP HAS A TOUGH PERSONALITY TO DEAL WITH OUR ENEMIES AND IS
    COMPETENT TO GET US OUT OF A DOWNWARD FINANCIAL COLLAPSE? I MUST ADMIT TRUMP
    CAN BE OVER ZEALOUS, BUT ONCE HE HAS TO FACE THE CONSERVATIVES HOPEFULLY HE
    WILL MELLOW OUT? COULD IT BE THAT TRUMP IS SO STREET SMART, THAT AS A RESULT OF
    INSULTING THE OTHER CANDIDATES HE STAYS ON THE FRONT PAGE OF THE MEDIA AND IS
    INFRONT OF THE CAMERA’S CONTINUOUSLY?

    It is my suggestion although it looks
    on the outside quite honest, there are calculated goings-on; off the record in jamming
    terrible bills down the throats of the American people who in reality know
    nothing and except every issue as good law.
    However I feel there is so much connivance between the parties, to
    maintain their power, they will vote in any amendment so they can get the thing
    passed. Such as it is with the Obama’s
    illegal alien amnesty that thankfully is being suspended from action in the
    courts? Republican speaker John Boehner has more or less accepted this amnesty
    by funding it as the main issue, because the alternative is closing down the
    government. We have nothing but spineless Republican politicians who are in
    Congress to collect their salaries, benefits and retirement, while the
    population suffers from supporting every person who crosses our open borders.

    What Trump did not tell the American people
    was this, that these illegal newcomers are not the best and brightest, as they are
    the deprived, uneducated and some are disease-ridden from Mexico, Central and South America. There need is great
    and survival benefits are plentiful, which this government hands out to
    everyone who enters our nation. Then combine all of the gang members, M-13 as
    an example that has been allowed to pass through our open borders. The
    courageous job the US Border Patrol in the last 5 years of the Obama government
    has seen millions arriving, as his authority has delivered a shocking blow only
    to process if caught and let free to appear in court of their own recognizance—which few illegal aliens ever do? These
    are only the foreigners that are located through the apprehensions, but others
    slip past the border through the hundreds of miles of nothing but areas of
    private land, or government areas where the agents must get permission from the
    Bureau of Land Management or other agencies.

    Ask the land owners who must carry
    guns, evident that they are not safe on their own property. Forget the wild
    creatures, there are far worst human animals carrying drugs to our children.

    They are siphoning off this country’s
    health care, housing and education system. 50 percent of the illegal aliens who
    are here are on welfare, 76 percent of pregnant foreigners with children are
    taking our tax dollars, by using the “Anchor Baby” birthright citizenship amendment.
    It is NOT up to Obama to have an open welfare system, but Congress? Worst still
    is ‘Sanctuary City’ ordinances, which literary ignores federal detention laws
    and dumps murderous criminals back into the dark alleys of any-town, ready to
    commit another felony. Usually murders of heinous crimes by illegal aliens are
    kept quiet by the Leftist press, but the murder of Kathryn Steinle 32 on july 1
    brought the who hidden world of insidious havens for illegal alien criminals
    back into public focus. But the House and Senate are doing nothing,
    which is the usual situation. Hand sitting is no longer applicable—pass ‘Kates
    Law”—don’t let it fade away. Finally we have a tough American who cannot be
    intimidated, bought by the lobbyists, who are like permanent residents
    themselves crowding and harassing legislators. Trump knows who the pushy
    lobbyists are and has turned them away, with their pockets of cash. Unlike
    Trump Jeb Bush, Hillary Clinton is probably right in the faces of the retinue,
    who are in the chambers on behalf of the wealthy corporate donors.

    I have
    read about the layoffs at Disney and at other companies, including the Southern
    California Edison power utility that are raising new questions about how
    businesses and outsourcing companies are using the temporary visas, known as
    H-1B, to place immigrants in technology jobs in the United States. These H-1B visas
    are at the center of a severe debate in Congress over whether they accompaniment
    American workers or displace them. What is not justifiable is an Indian worker
    in one American company can take the jobs of US labor being displaced; that this company
    in question can restrain severance pay, unless they train these new arrivals.
    To me this is disgraceful and anti-American and both the Democrats and
    Republicans will pay dearly for this when Trump sits behind that desk in Washington.

    H-1B visas
    are intended for foreigners with advanced science or computer skills to fill
    positions when US workers with those skills cannot be located.
    Federal guidelines say, that foreign workers should not “adversely affect the
    wages and working conditions” of Americans. However, there are so many
    intentional loopholes, in its operation companies do not have to recruit
    American workers first or guarantee that Americans will not be displaced, which
    with a line of attorneys in corporate pay, the whole thing is a travesty. These
    visas are being utilized to convey in legal immigrants to do the work of
    Americans for far less money, with
    American workers intimidated to train their replacements.

    There
    will be so many changes in Congress, especially the growing threat of cheap
    labor and illegal aliens voting in our ‘citizens only’ elections on any level
    of government.

    As a last resort career politician
    Bobby Jindal, governor of Louisiana tried yesterday in attacking Donald trump ambition to be President. I
    would suggest he is a political scapegoat pressed on by GOP establishment, to
    try and undermine Trumps temperament. But most voters for the man know that
    nothing will even penetrate his tough hide. Jindal is sinking in the polls, so
    it was his last claim to prestige and who knows if he wasn’t intimidated by the
    upper status class behind closed shutters?

    I have been more or less been told shut up about the operation of major
    MANDATORY E-VERIFY commitment. Trump has seen through this worthless
    administration and hopefully reads that “OPTIONAL” E-Verify has no enforcement
    behind its mechanism—but mandated E-Verify will? It certainly wasn’t Trumps people, but the
    fact is business owners of any category do not want to be told, who they can
    hire and who they cannot? Under a potential new federal law constrains of an
    appointed E-Verify, employers will be constantly checked or a whistle blower a
    spy who works for a company will inform (ICE) agents that illegal aliens
    (presently and new hires) would be apprehended along with the employer who
    should not be shielded from huge fines, license business suspension or a time
    in federal jail. Employers would soon learn not to think you are above this obligatory
    law?

    Illegal immigration will be the
    foremost issue from now until 2016, because it negatively influences every
    black, white, Hispanic, Latino, Asian and every other American and lawful
    resident minority and the ‘why’ is because we pay for it all. Both parties are
    to blame for this growing issue. Democrats because they have given full
    authority to King Obama run the country as he sees fit, and Republicans as they
    has failed to cut off funds for the millions of illegal aliens. It doesn’t
    compute to my family and circle of friends that this government thinks I want
    my overtaxed dollars to financial support ever increasing flow of people to
    settle here. My heart first must go out to our impoverished, not the rest of
    the global poor? America has limits like never before? We have to think about our citizens and
    those who legally come here and fallen on hard times, not the majority of the
    world, who hate us because of the freedoms we have left.

  • Indigo

    Rush Limbaugh, Pat Robertson, Donald Trump . . . comedians of the Reich. The one thing I like about all three of them and their garbled messages is how easy they make it to recognize what fools their fans are.

  • 2karmanot

    Two words: Warsaw Ghetto. Trump is an unapologetic fascist racist. Eat s**t and die Godwin.

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  • FLL

    A further thought. The government doesn’t know where all these 11 million undocumented immigrants live and work, so the deportation of 11 million would involve military-style raids on random businesses and door-to-door searches in random Hispanic neighborhoods. Where does Trump think he’s going to get all the search warrants necessary to meet his quota of about half a million deportations per month? Or is he thinking of altogether scrapping our constitutional protections against illegal search, imprisonment and seizure of property? Becca’s use of the term fascist looks more and more accurate, depending on what Trump really has in mind with his deportation scheme. The details of all this will certainly be fair game in presidential debates, and American voters need to take a good look at those details.

  • Teddy Flyfisher Davis

    If he becomes POTUS, then I should be able to walk to the moon…It AIN’T gonna happen.

  • Bill_Perdue

    Trump is a right wing buffoon with an authoritarian streak and limitless political ignorance. He’s an extreme racist, a rabid misogynist and a union hater. Trump is defined by his party just as much as BS and HRH HRC are defined by theirs.

    There is no fascist mass movement in this country and he’s not creating one. There have always been a lot of racists in this country and he’s organizing the racists who identify with his party. At the same time, by undercutting efforts to turn back the decision by the Supremes on marriage he’s losing ground among the religious right. Gallup reports that “The results show that Trump does not, in fact, receive high levels of support from highly religious Republicans. His net favorable rating is 12th in the list of 17 GOP candidates among highly religious Republicans.” http://www.gallup.com/opinion/polling-matters/185438/trump-image-below-average-among-highly-religious-republicans.aspx Like Obama, he’s rebranding.

    Other racists embrace Obama, a racist who destroyed the lives and families of over two million immigrant workers by deporting them and who engages in arbitrary, racist murders of Arab Americans. Both parties endorse the idea of long waiting periods tied to low paying jobs, fines and fees. Both parties refuse to order the mass arrest and prosecution of racist and violent cops. Both engage in racist wars of aggression.

    But neither party, simply on account of it’s racism, is a fascist party. Every four years Democrats begin to suggest that Republicans and fascists. That’s election year hyperbole. Those charges and countercharges by both right wing parties are moot given the proven and demonstrated facts that the US is not a democracy and that elections have virtually no impact on policy.

    Like the Democrat party, the Republican party is right centrist. They’re both anti-union, both encourage and enable racist wars of aggression, and both attack the Bill of Rights. We will see, as millions radicalize and turn hard left, the growth of massive fascist movement but that hasn’t occurred yet. When it does the stench will be unavoidable.

  • Yeah, I thought Greg Greene’s tweet up there was especially apropos. But Jon has the right of it, too: Mass deportations would be logistically and morally insane. And have a pretty good chance of crashing the U.S. economy.

  • FLL

    And that means that Trump’s cost estimate may not even be honest. Trump’s plan would damage the economy; it would also damage the country’s international reputation during a time when the world is trying to solve refugee crises like the one in Syria, not create another refugee crisis in the U.S. and Mexico.

  • Indigo

    A fascist Charlie Chaplin?

  • He’s such a fascist.

    And after he showed up, I stopped using that word lightly.

  • Yeah, but let’s not forget: The Cheneyites flat out lied about how much the war would cost and then charged for it off-budget.

  • FLL

    Math fun. Let’s crunch some more numbers. The common estimate for the cost of the Iraq War is 1.7 trillion dollars over a period of 8 years. At that rate, the Iran War cost about 318 billion dollars during an 18-month period, the same amount of time that Trump is suggesting. So Trump’s proposal would cost about half as much as the flipping Iraq War for an 18-month period. Try selling that to the American public. Suerte… bonne chance… good luck.

  • Hue-Man

    Can we expect a Mexican Underground Railroad with the goal to reach “Heaven” or “the Promised Land”?

  • Mike_in_the_Tundra

    I’ve always felt that all politicians had a sense of entitlement, but no one can match Trump’s sense of entitlement.

  • Indigo

    He’s such a comic.

  • emjayay

    That would only increase the yearly deficit by a third, so no problemo for Republicans. Plus, jobs, jobs, jobs.

  • slavdude

    Well, it’s not like it hasn’t happened before.

    But remember, ‘Murka’s Number One!

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