CNBC calls out Rick Perry for comparing gays to “alcoholics”

You know you’re in trouble when CNBC calls you intolerant.

Republican Texas Gov. Rick Perry was pushed pretty hard on CNBC today by one of the hosts who took offense to Perry recently comparing being gay to being an alchoholic.

Perry recently was asked in San Francisco if he believed being gay was a disorder. Here’s what Perry said:

Commonwealth Club interviewer Greg Dalton then asked him whether he believes homosexuality is a disorder.

“Whether or not you feel compelled to follow a particular lifestyle or not, you have the ability to decide not to do that,” Perry said. “I may have the genetic coding that I’m inclined to be an alcoholic, but I have the desire not to do that, and I look at the homosexual issue the same way.”

I’ve long contended that only someone who was himself gay, or conflicted about his sexuality (bi, perhaps?), would think that being gay is a choice, something you can cure, or something that’s a temptation that can be tempered, like “alcoholism.”

100% straight people don’t have urges to hop into bed with someone of the same-sex in the same way that an alcoholic has a yearning for a drink.  I, for example, do not have an urge to sleep with women. (I do, however, face a nightly temptation to chow down on brownies.) But if I did have the lady-sex urge, in the back of my loins, I might just think it was some kind of oddity that I could control — must control — if only I could find the willpower.

I have always found these kind of comments to be a “tell.”  A reveal. And they, in my mind, have always spoken volumes about the person making them.

Well,  “Squawk Box” host Joe Kernan was having none of it today (see video below):

Texas Gov. Rick Perry has a growing gay problem that goes far beyond his "Brokeback Mountain" jacket.

Texas Gov. Rick Perry “Brokeback Mountain” jacket from the 2012 presidential campaign.

“I have a really high bar for what I would take offense to, but that would exceed the bar for me on being an offensive comment. I don’t think gay marriage leads to cirrhosis of the liver or domestic violence or DWIs. I don’t understand how that’s similar.”

It just seems like the Republican party is going to forever behind the curve on issues like this, and it doesn’t help the party win itself.

Perry responded by saying, “I don’t necessarily condone that lifestyle; I don’t condemn it either.”

Whatever, Mary.*

(*Apparently, it’s now necessary to provide trigger warnings for self-loathing gay Republicans who aren’t entirely fluent in Gay. “Mary” isn’t a slur.

And let’s face it, “Mary Perry” does have a certain ring to it.)


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  • 2karmanot

    If sexuality is a choice then why, why, don’t more ‘straight’ people choose to be gay?

  • http://parkandbark.wordpress.com/ Houndentenor

    Because our lazy media elite don’t cover state-level stories unless it’s a slow news day. If it doesn’t happen in a press conference in White House or isn’t a natural disaster or headline-making crime, they don’t notice.

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  • Ninong

    Rick Perry has been saying this for years, so why is it suddenly news? He ran for president saying exactly the same thing. He has repeatedly said that according to his faith, homosexuality is a sin but he believes we should hate the sin and love the sinner. He has always said that he believes homosexuality is a choice and it can be cured with therapy.

    He has been saying batshit crazy stuff like this for years. He says it in Texas all the time.

  • Ninong

    Whatever happened to Geoff Connor, the guy Rick appointed Secretary of State? Weren’t they an item at one time?

  • jomicur

    We really need to keep reminding everyone that Perry thinks alcoholism is a “lifestyle choice.” That will tick off a lot more people than just the LGBT community and our allies.

  • jomicur

    And don’t you just love the implication that alcoholism is a lifestyle?

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  • mark_in_toronto

    Rick Perry is stupid. Of course he will say stupid shit.
    Why so surprised?

  • chris10858

    Calling the Governor “Mary” is highly offensive… to women named Mary. LOL

  • The_Fixer

    1) Why do all of these sanctimonious assholes have such plastic smirky grins? Self-satisfaction?

    2) Dismissing homosexuality as being an abnormal compulsion is counter to everything that honest mental health professionals have discovered through research and trial-and-error. History supports this.

    3) This dismissal is a dumb-ass view of human sexuality and reflects a belief that human sexuality is completely behaviorally-based. There is no understanding of affection and attraction with these people. They take heterosexual attraction for granted and simply can’t understand anything else. It’s like they don’t understand why someone would be happy with blond hair – “can’t ya just dye it so it’s brown or black?”

    4) While the CNBC guy is a tool in other areas of policy, he reflects changing attitudes toward LGBT people in society at large. This is going to be a mighty struggle for the Republican party, and will keep them from attracting young people.

    5) Anything that hinders the Republican party is a good thing. Keep arguing, my little wingnuts!

  • Indigo

    good one!

  • caphillprof

    I’ve said it before; I ‘ll say it again: I feel that Rick Perry is the kind of guy who uses alcohol to enable having sex with men. In his case there may well be a connection wit alcohol and gay sex.

  • usagi

    Now known as a “brojob”.

  • slappymagoo

    Or very over-hung?

  • emjayay

    He’s sort of right in a way. A person can decide to not drink. People can decide to stop using heroin. If they are addicts they might really, really, not want to stop and may experience horrible physical and chemically induced mental effects, but it’s possible. A person can decide to not have any sex, like monks and nuns (well, some of the good ones) or can decide to have maybe enough sex with someone they don’t really want to have sex with that much in order to have a family and survive in society. It’s been going on forever.
    But of course basically his head is totally up his ass. The wingnut moderator agrees with him on everything but one little thing, sort of.
    I’d like these guys to actually discuss in detail someday exactly what regulations they are talking about that are killing jobs or whatever. With someone on the other side.

  • emjayay

    They don’t love us. Jesus loves us, so they grit their teeth and put up with it.

  • http://www.americablog.com/ Naja pallida

    As usual, Rick Perry has no idea what he’s talking about, on any subject.

  • http://www.rebeccamorn.com/mind BeccaM

    Perry gets alcoholism 100% wrong, too. It’s not some ‘tendency’ that can simply be avoided through choice or force of will. If desire alone was enough, there’d be no alcoholics nor Alcoholics Anonymous, where the very first admission members have to make is that they’re personally powerless over alcohol and their addiction to it.

    An alcoholic is an alcoholic. Some of them drink, some manage to keep their drinking under some degree of control, and some manage to abstain. They’re still alcoholics. The plain fact is a lot of ‘em DON’T have “the ability to decide not to do that” — and can’t just decide not to drink.

    And some, as I suspect might be the case for Governor Perry, delude themselves into thinking they have their alcohol and drug addictions under control. (There were lots of stories about him being stoned on pain killers during the ’12 campaign.) Besides ‘gay face’, he also has that “I do mountains of blow” look about him.

  • Drew2u

    “Wow, I was out binge-gaying last night and I woke up very hungover..”

  • http://washingtonspectacle.com Robert Price Rifkin

    The victory of the Tea Party over
    Eric Cantor has thrown a lot of cold water over the idea that “Mainstream”
    politics might still be alive in the United States. It seems as if “fringe”
    politics is moving into the mainstream of both parties and that fringe movement
    promises to overtake a decades drift of the American body politic toward the
    center. What’s the cause? A feeling among voters that Washington has turned a
    deaf ear to its needs and wants for far too long. Simple. This throw-the-bums
    mentality in the minds of voters is prevalent and no single politician has
    emerged unscathed. Therefore we’re headed toward even more polarization and
    division–redder states and bluer states, with voters in the middle ground lost
    somewhere in a far off desert of thickening quicksand.

    Or is that really the way it is? As
    I write in my proudly Centrist political blog, http://www.WashingtonSpectacle.com, the
    death of the Centrist voter and Centrist politics, in general, has been wildly
    overblown by the national media, which is, after all, always looking for a
    spicy, sexy story with long legs. Let’s face it, the middle ground just isn’t
    very alluring. Extreme behavior and loud, raucous politics are the two things
    that delight readers and motivate viewers. Would there be a Fox News Network is
    fringe politics didn’t add bright color to those blue and white screens?

    The truth is that America has always
    been a Centrist nation at heart–it has almost always roundly rejected focused
    Left or Right agendas–it might surprise many voters to realize that, after
    looking closely at the record, even Ronald Reagan was a lot more Liberal than
    the media painted him. Even Richard Nixon passed a carload of legislation that
    would today be considered downright Socialist. Even Jimmy Carter supported a pretty
    middle-of-the-road agenda. That’s because the voters of America don’t
    particularly embrace the Left of the Right. They never do. They complain a lot.
    They threaten a lot. They dare politicians to go against their wishes. But, in
    the end, they’re comfortable in the quiet Center. Politicians of both parties
    need to wake up to that reality. Or else, get their resumes in order as fast as
    possible.

  • http://www.rebeccamorn.com/mind BeccaM

    It almost doesn’t matter what specific disease Rick “Governor Hair” Perry picks — or the rest of his GOPer compulsive wanker friends. The point is what they’re saying: “To be gay is to be defective. To accept being gay doubles down on the defect. For a gay person to find love and settle down with a family and maybe some kids is three strikes.”

    Morally, physically, psychologically — take your pick. The only part they ever disagree on is whether non-heterosexual orientation exists and if so, what is to blame for it happening. What they do agree on is that gay people are supposed to suffer, be ashamed, and be terribly unhappy. No jobs, no housing, and no family. Only the closet is permitted, so straights can go back to pretending they don’t personally know any gay people.

    Then they have the gall to say it’s because they love us.

    And it’s bullshit if in one breath Perry can equate being gay with alcoholism, specifically refer to it as a ‘lifestyle choice’ — and then try to claim he’s not condemning the ‘lifestyle.’

  • Indigo

    Right. The oldest line in the book . . . “I was sooo drunk!”

  • http://buddybest.tripod.com/index.html BuddyNovinski

    Even if he had compared alcoholism to sex, it does not wash. We can choose to drink alcohol or to have sex, but the comparison should be an occasional drink. Alcoholism is an addiction, and sex is a natural tendency. Calling homosexuality the equivalent of alcoholism misses in both the kind of drink we choose and how much we drink it. I personally like red wine, but I avoid it because I eat too much and get fatter, besides red grapes are cheaper to get the resverol!

  • slappymagoo

    Of course he compares homosexuality to alcoholism.

    Because he probably “forgets” that “he’s not gay” when he’s been drinking.

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