First thoughts on Mozilla’s anti-gay CEO resigning

Brendan Eich, the would-be CEO of Mozilla (the makers of Firefox), has resigned after just 11 days in the position.

Although most of the news stories were noting Eich’s 2008 $1000 donation for the pro-Prop 8 campaign (the one that banned same-sex marriage in California after it having been legal for months), others were beginning to notice that Eich has a rather self-revealing pattern of donating to far-right politicians as well.

According to FEC records, he’s given $2100 to CA-4’s rabidly anti-gay (and anti-everything progressive) GOP Rep. Tom McClintock, between 2008 and 2010. GOPer Linda Smith, another Eich campaign donation recipient, said “homosexuality is a morally unfit inclination.”

Brendan Eich, official Mozilla Foundation photo

Brendan Eich, official Mozilla Foundation photo, with some embellishments.

Eich also donated to Ron Paul in ’96 and ’98 ($2500), according to another story in the Guardian. And $1000 to Pat Buchanan in ’91 and ’92.

In 1990, a year before Eich’s first donation to his campaign, Buchanan said in relation to the (AIDs) outbreak that “our promiscuous homosexuals appear literally hell-bent on Satanism and suicide”. A a few years earlier he said “homosexuals have declared war on nature, and now nature is exacting an awful retribution”.

When asked by the Guardian for a response or to clarify whether or not he still agreed with Buchanan’s positions on homosexuality, Eich declined to answer.

And as for Ron Paul… well, he’s long been dogged by accusations of espousing both racist and homophobic views, particularly in the newsletter that bore his name.

I stand by my observation and considered opinion that people don’t donate to the campaigns of politicians whose views they don’t agree with. And Eich sure does seem to have a predilection for the gay-haters.

Oh, also, OKCupid’s rather public boycott of Firefox, as well as reports of a brewing Mozilla employee insurrection might’ve contributed to Eich’s departure.


Published professional writer and poet, Becca had a three decade career in technical writing and consulting before selling off most of her possessions in 2006 to go live at an ashram in India for 3 years. She loves literature (especially science fiction), technology and science, progressive politics, cool electronic gadgets, and perfecting Hatch green chile recipes. Fortunately for this last, Becca and her wife currently live in New Mexico. @BeccaMorn

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  • TheKnowerseeker

    Not for long, eh Comrade?

  • TheKnowerseeker

    I’m going to form up an advocacy group of pedos to fight for “our rights” just like you gays are doing and have done until I can fire bigots who are against pedo and can legally marry children. So if you’re a pedophobe, you can go to India. See how that works?

    (P.S.: I’m not a pedo… just a Christian, but it’s well known that there are many “chickenhawk” gay pedos in the world.)

  • TheKnowerseeker

    This is how the liberals are becoming communists (in that they want to forcefully wipe out any trace of conservatism and Christianity).

  • TheKnowerseeker

    Mozilla can go f*** itself. I’m using Opera now.

  • TheKnowerseeker

    I think you two are on the same side but don’t realize it.

  • Jim Olson

    (You know I was being ironic, right?)

  • jhforsythe

    These perverts are disgusting! Every normal person should remove Firefox and other Mozilla products from their computers immediately. They hire and promote perverts who do not believe in diversity of thought. You must think the way they do, or else you lose your job.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcrEqIpi6sg Moderator4

    AugustineThomas, you are banned for your bigoted remarks. “Homonazis”? This is not acceptable discourse on this blog.

  • Aim4TheFace

    Legally, in THIS country, 5 is too young to consent to ANYTHING…but if that’s your thing, you can move to India where it is allowed…see there?? Problem solved…And no one is turning anything on it’s head…Just because you don’t agree with it doesn’t make it nonsense..

  • Buford

    Not really.

  • AugustineThomas

    I pray to God Christians start standing up to people like you before you’re that underpaid, bitter guard in a death camp torturing us like in your fantasies..
    St. Francis please pray for this depraved secularist!

  • AugustineThomas

    You guys are so much worse than the Christians of old you demonize. This guy invented Java and helped found Mozilla and worthless idiots like you are having him kicked out and stopping him from helping our society even more all over your depraved views and your insecurity about the fact that you celebrate a perversion and a sin which hurts people who call themselves homosexual more than bigotry ever did.

  • AugustineThomas

    You’re full of nonsense. There’s a big difference between changing some customs that surround marriage and turning the whole thing on its head.
    Why can’t I marry a five year old? Who are you to say the five year old is too young? Bigot!

  • AugustineThomas

    How did we get to the point where we have so many fascists like you who pretend that it’s just for judges to strike down a democratic vote of the people?
    You guys are would-be-Nazis and you need to be stopped before you do more evil!

  • AugustineThomas

    The Homonazis are doing a victory lap!!

  • ATrober

    I said “idiot” because of how far off base you are per how U.S. government was designed Constitutionally. “Granted by the courts” is right, and an anathema to the Founding Fathers.
    It’s a useless argument. You h0m0s are going to get the country you deserve, then go looking for someone ELSE to keep the freedom when you realize how destructive the lifestyle has been to a nation capable of being free, and it’s a TOTAL lie anyone’s EVER born that way.

  • Aim4TheFace

    As a meme that’s floating around states something to the effect of “since you haven’t offered your daughter for two goats and something or other, you’ve already redefined marriage” kinda nullifies your argument although I do agree with you to some degree. I don’t believe government should have ANYTHING to do with marriage whatsoever…abolish all tax breaks for marriage and make a clean break from church and state. It appears the masses want to use religion for their biases which makes them hypocritical since they selectively choose what to honor and what to ignore.
    Further to your points, civil rights was an aggressive push to destroy something non whites didn’t agree with…and rightfully so.
    Finally, i’m not sure I agree with the way it was done (pushing Eich out for his donation) but it appears we are the minority on that.

  • Whyiseveryonesoangry

    Why is “what an idiot you are” the initial response, is that tolerant and inclusive? I am ignorant on your side of this issue, I agree. I am far to educated and accomplished to be labeled an idiot however. The inclusion of other rules/laws you mention has no bearing on the definition of marriage. The founders believed a traditional family was the best structure for a self governed people and the american experiment. You may not agree, but that is what they said. A serious question from an opposing view, what is not acceptable with civil unions? Having some type of dialogue is required if we ever hope that it is civil discourse. I truly don’t know your sides opinion on that.

  • ATrober

    Why should he apologize?
    how about the homos apologizing for doing exactly what the Founding Fathers risked life and livelihood to protect: free speech.
    The phaggots are going to need someone else to build this country and keep it free. But, that’d probably make no sense to some punk inheriting what this nation has w/o risking a thing to build it. You probably think we’re free because we vote.

  • ATrober

    We got here by the *heirs* of freedom now out-weighing the *agents* of freedom.

  • ATrober

    “granted by the courts” … what an idiot you are.

    I won’t even bother past pointing out the Constitution, sodomy laws, etc. were all on the books by the Founders and their generation*s*. And, for a reason.

  • Whyiseveryonesoangry

    Actually it is a difference in meaning and choice. No person was ever denied the right to get married. The pro gay marriage movement is not one of “right to marry” under the definition of marriage, rather a movement to redefine the meaning of marriage. Any gay man or women could marry the opposite sex legally in theory. The definition of the marriage is what limited the it, not its application. I personally believed that civil unions made sure everyone was treated equal under the law. It allowed every gay couple all the legal rights as a traditional married couple without redefining the definition of marriage. If equality was the end game, civil union accomplished that goal. The push to redefine marriage is not one of equality, rather an aggressive push to “win” by destroying something you don’t agree with. I believe everyone is equal in every-way. I never stand in judgment of anyone, I am far from perfect, and don’t wish to be judged by others. What if your definition of marriage excludes siblings, cousins, animals, tangible property? I don’t say these to be rude, but once you redefine things it opens up “Pandora’s box”. I personally know of a case where someone will be pushing to allow his marriage to a son and nephew. He has a substantial net worth and is trying to pass his fortune without estate tax. As vile as that is, that is what happens. Marriage as defined is one of the building blocks for many of our societies structures, law, tax, community etc. Marriage is meant to have benefits to promote pro creation. We must continue our existence. Eich simply gave to a political party or idea that he supports. Why is any opposing view not to be heard? Correct me if I am wrong ( i am not in CA) didn’t the side of the argument he donated to get passed by the majority? Under you analogy, the majority of CA’s citizens should be terminated from their jobs.

  • Ricky

    How did we get to the point where Americans like you believe that you can take away the right to same sex marriage granted by the courts to punish gays and lesbians – to show them one more time that they are “less than” you – and when those gays and lesbians – and those that support them – become angry at the 5 YEARS of injustice while their rights wound their way through the courts – you think their anger is unfounded.
    Eich sought to take away the right for gays and lesbians to marry – and to nullify those marriages that actually took place – the crime here is not that he stepped down – but that he was ever allowed to be CEO in the first place.
    Don’t you dare lecture the rest of us about how to feel about Eich’s vicious, ugly, cowardly, attack of California gays and lesbians.
    This was NEVER about a difference of opinion.

  • Whyiseveryonesoangry

    How did we get the point were we can ruin your carrier and destroy your reputation if you believe something different than a small militant group? What if a anti-gay company fired a gay rights supporter? Is that right? HELL NO, its not right, but the pro gay lobby thinks the opposite of that is just and progressive. The man founded the damn company. None of these fascist, racist, exclusionary idiots would have a job if it wasn’t for him. If you want “open mindedness” why do you practice the opposite. IT IS OK for people to disagree with your point of view….. The one who fears an opposing view is the one with the weaker view

  • dcinsider

    Wish I’d said that.

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  • gekkobear

    http://dish.andrewsullivan.com

    “What if an employee went to a demonstration that his company found
    objectionable? Would that be a reason to fire him? What we have here is a
    social pressure to keep your beliefs deeply private for fear of
    retribution. We are enforcing another sort of closet on others. I can
    barely believe the fanaticism.”

    SO when the worm turns, and this bites the left in the ass too, and people are fired for liberal views, that’ll be good too?

    Or will you only be glad when you’re the one wielding the fascist hammer to silence dissent?

    Congratulations, you’ve got the same view as those you oppose. “It’s ok when WE do it”.

    Don’t be shocked when I chuckle at you while opposing those firing you when your inability to realize obvious consequences bites you. I both support freedom of thought AND think stupid people are funny.

  • gekkobear

    http://dish.andrewsullivan.com

    “What if an employee went to a demonstration that his company found objectionable? Would that be a reason to fire him? What we have here is a social pressure to keep your beliefs deeply private for fear of retribution. We are enforcing another sort of closet on others. I can barely believe the fanaticism.”

    When I can quote Andrew Sullivan, and he 100% accurately and concisely sums up my view on a topic, either it’s opposite day, or someone screwed something up ROYALLY.

  • JamesR

    LOL the right to march in a Straight Pride march with bags over their heads!

  • JamesR

    It’s revealing in a way that he’s on a couch and we’re taking notes and getting paid $300 an hour, or whatever the going rate is.

  • Monophylos Fortikos

    That’s not a question anyone ever has to ask an opponent of equality before the law, mind you. The sort of Jesus freak who gives a shit about stuff like that will let you know beforehand. Loudly, abundantly, and with enough glowing self-righteousness about his values to outshine the sun.

  • http://www.citizensforethics.org/ David D

    You should view
    Frontline’s big sky big money video
    Attitudes like this are the reason people argue political contributions should be secret.

  • Indigo

    From your keyboard to God’s monitor!

  • Rambie

    Mozilla should be fine.

  • http://www.rebeccamorn.com/mind BeccaM

    When the issue is our civil rights, hell yes, we’re going to fight for them and oppose having those in power who would deny them.

    How long do you think Mozilla’s anti-discrimination policies would’ve been enforced — much less survive at all — with a man running the company whose personal attitudes regarding gay people are in line with Pat Buchanan and Tom McClintock?

  • Monophylos Fortikos

    That…sort of misses my point, really…

  • cinorjer

    CEOs are, like it or not, the voice and public image of a company. It’s why they’re getting paid the huge bucks. Their public actions and history matter, and they cannot whine that we should only judge them on their job performance. Being the image of the company IS their job. If it wasn’t for the old-boy network that exists even in Silicon Valley, he would have been vetted better and his troubling history of embracing anti-gay causes and politicians would have been brought up at the board before he was offered the position.

  • McCarthy loves progressives

    1950’s – Are you now or have you ever been a member of the communist party? 2010’s – Do you now or have you ever supported traditional marriage?

  • Buford

    Funny but flawed… since none of their hatred is actually supported by any particular religion or faith, Christian or otherwise. So even if they developed ‘Faithfox’ to support Christian things and repress non-Christian things, it would still not have a stake in marriage equality… religion is moot when it comes to civil marriages.

  • Indigo

    I share that concern.

  • Sidus

    Eich, that’s really a bold step.

    Sidus

  • http://www.rebeccamorn.com/mind BeccaM

    I couldn’t figure out what the hell he was trying to imply with his comments about Indonesia, but I could read well enough behind the lines on the rest of it, especially with his frequent refrain of separating his personal beliefs from his work at Mozilla. Plus a whole lot of talk about being a terrific CEO, but serving at the pleasure of the corporate board.

    In a way, I appreciate his honesty to the extent he won’t actually say he thinks it’s okay to be gay. But he sure does dance close to the line of revealing his homophobia.

  • Tone

    I am not sorry to see him go. Eich has been both an embarrassment and a distraction and I hope that Mozilla gets past him and gets back on track with their products. No browser handles RSS better than Firefox, their live bookmarks are without peer. I still believe in Firefox but have been disappointed lately by inability to easily turn JavaScript off at will, and for lag where there didn’t used to be any. Firefox used to blaze but lately it just smoulders.

  • ashieuk

    Could this be the beginning of the end for Mozilla? Frankly, their browser has become an over-bloated shadow of its former self (if that’s physically possible!). It used to work with every site every time, straight away. Now it’s disable this, add that etc. Much as I hate to say it as a supporter of open software, Chrome is miles better. And appointing a nutcase as a CEO doesn’t inspire confidence in Mozilla’s strategy.

  • JamesR

    THANKS your post @ JMG has sparked lively response

    Big manual ‘like.’ (For some reason I can’t ‘like’ on this site through Disqus)

  • FuzzyRabbit

    A person much wiser than I am once wrote: “Scratch a homophobe and a racist will bleed.”

  • JamesR

    Speaking of getting galled form that interview, here’s another from Cnet: http://www.cnet.com/news/mozilla-ceo-gay-marriage-firestorm-could-hurt-firefox-cause-q-a/ – I can see how it may have been stitched together and might have been less emphasized, in person – but the way I read it the way Eich segued / deflected the issue of the Prop 8 (etc) to Mozilla’s expansion into the Indonesian market and compared they way Indonesians view things and have no problem with his politics, well, that kinda burned me up. I defer my burning to the fact it may have been edited more to emphasize that, but damn. Damn. Indonesia?? Either the man cannot explain himself very clearly or is confused. Or he really meant it as read – all of those possibilities are distinctly offensive and all may be true to one degree or other and at least one is.

    Indonesians have no problem with my homophobia and / or the idea you can vote to take way a group’s civil rights on religious or ‘principle’ grounds? Or let’s not appear too publicly Gay friendly to toady to Indonesians? WTF? Good riddance and don’t let the door hit your ass on the way out. ‘Cause then the door would need a good cleaning.

  • JamesR

    LOL

  • Monophylos Fortikos

    Jesus freaks like coming up with their own lame-brained “Christian” versions of useful things. Maybe he can make a “Christian” fork of Mozilla and call it, I dunno, Faithfox or something. And maybe a new faith-based scripting language, JesusScript, with an even muddier syntax than Javascript.

  • JamesR

    Exactly!

  • JamesR

    My first thoughts are “at an end your rule is, and not short enough it was.”

    It’s amazing that someone who knows so much about systems and programming and logic, knows nothing about that as it applies to humans. Some people are meant to stay in basements and eschew human contact. Or rather, if they emerge and interact with people as if they’re machines or apps then they should stay away from people.

    Seems to me a CEO needs to have people skills. Sure they need to know the product and the company, but they must steer that through the wider world of Other People. The idealistic politics of Buchannan, and Paul (as he represents himself) appeal to the type of person who interacts with society, with individuals, as they idealize, not as who they are. As those who promoted Prop 8 treated society, and the Constitution, as they would want them to be, not as they are.

    Maybe that’s a skill that’s great for creating programs and self contained systems with rules you make up, virtual worlds, but not a real world here people are different form you.

    But differences aren’t the real issue. Nor is The Gay, per-se. A leader of any group of humans needs to command respect. A CEO needs to answer for his actions. The moment he ‘took the 5th’ he was done. Done. Proclaiming that his personal life wasn’t relevant and not answering for his public actions that affected other people – that’s OK for the cheeto-dusted IT guy chained to a Wyse console in the basement but for a CEO? Not ready for prime time is an understatement. All the personal representative of a major corporations brings to the table, to his job and 24/7 IS his personal life and his integrity.

    The fact that Mozilla had two years to prepare for dealing with this should make me feel more confident they can deal with a virus they know will hit their whole company, with two years’ notice? Please. Certainly they do put more thought into their products, which is good, and they are good, but really?? Sure there’s a story behind the scenes, with three of five board members resigning right before this bozo took the reigns, and they can’t talk publicly about it… But the story put forth by Eich that their departures were unrelated is obviously pure artless bullshit.

    All Eich had to do was to EXPLAIN what he did, why he did it, and what he thinks now. I can respect someone who I differ with if they honestly explain their views and answer for their actions. He did it – that’s past – but avoiding talking about it? That’s a NOW issue. And that’s not alpha leader behavior. That’s not even beta. It’s cowardly. It’s not honorable, or, ironically given the issues, manly.

    I don’t know how he’d answer, given he’d donated to a campaign to take away rights of a class of citizens based on either a religious opinion (he’d thought belonged superior to our secular republic) or a warped secular opinion that cherishes some ideals way more than others. (illogically)

    But a leader would have tried.

    You can’t have your victim cake and eat it too. Or rather having baked it yourself, and you eat it, take responsibility for it. All the bloviating about his victimization, and how bad it is for us (Americans) to want accountability, makes me want to puke. Prime example Andrew Sullivan trying to toad to those he will never be respected by.

    Now I hope they can get to the important work of solving the most annoying Disqus-Firefox-Avast conflict Grrrr! I like Mozilla, and can forgive their corporate stumbles as long as they work them out and quickly.

    And THANKS BeccaM great to read ya here – I to have been extremely busy in the Real World – Happy Spring

  • Hue-Man

    The Barilla experience should have made this a scripted exercise. Either you haven’t changed your anti-gay attitudes in which case you tough it out or you go all-in. Sample script:
    “As I’ve learned more about LGBT people within our organization, I am now supporting equality for LGBT people in the workplace, in accommodations, and in marriage and will support local, state, and national campaigns to enact this legislation.”
    “I have appointed an LGBT Ombudsman to report directly to the Board of Directors on matters of perceived LGBT discrimination within our company.”
    etc.
    Replace gay-hating CEO with racist CEO, misogynist CEO, anti-semitic CEO and consider what kind of a workplace a person of color, a woman or a Jewish employee would encounter. What’s the expression? “Fish rot from the head.”

  • Jose Soto

    I can imagine the right wingers going bunkers over his resignation, but yet they also had a reversal of their own in the form of World Vision. I mean, aren’t they satisfied that they got MANY organizations and companies that support their petty causes already? You get to keep Chick-Fil-A, Hobby Lobby, World Vision, The Church, Boy Scouts, — and we get to keep Mozilla, Google, Starbucks, HoneyMaid, General Mills and the rest. I am comfortable letting go right wing organizations and companies, why can’t they do the same for normal companies like Mozilla and as well just let it go.

  • http://www.rebeccamorn.com/mind BeccaM

    Yessir! (salutes snappily) Actually, I think I’ll have a G&T and find something to watch on Netflix for a bit.

  • http://www.rebeccamorn.com/mind BeccaM

    Word of Eich’s pro-Prop 8 donation came out in 2012, but it didn’t generate nearly as much buzz because he wasn’t seen as terribly important. Being hired/promoted as CEO brings a whole different level of scrutiny.

    At that point, people like myself — and bloggers and journalists with way more experience than me — start digging. And most of us were very surprised at what we found.

    As I’ve remarked elsewhere, if Eich had simply said, “Yes, I did make that donation. I wasn’t thinking about who it would harm and I regret it deeply” — and if that’s ALL there was, he’d be sitting in the CEO’s office still. But he didn’t go that route. He was defensive. He didn’t explain how he personally felt about gay people.

    Then we began finding his political donations to far-right GOP politicians — and only them.

    Put simply, despite being a Mozilla co-founder and the architect behind Javascript, Eich wasn’t important enough for people to care about his politics. The hire as CEO changed all that, especially since it’s the CEO who is both the public face of the corporation, as well as the ‘captain’ who steers it. And no matter how many pretty words Eich might say about supporting and valuing Mozilla’s diversity and non-discrimination policies, if discrimination is in his heart, over time it will come to pervade the entire organization.

    Then eventually, there’d come a day when some upper manager is accused of treating a gay underling unfairly, and the word from the CEO’s office is it’s not a problem… for instance.

  • pappyvet

    A thousand and twentyfive hundred! ? Not only a bigot but a cheap bigot.

  • pappyvet

    By the way , get out of here. Go have a scotch use the counting breath meditation and relax. Turn your personal dimmer switch way down.

  • Bookbinder

    BUT, why didn’t we know earlier. He was a founder of Mozilla and has been its Chief Tech officer forever. But better late than never, glad this issue is beginning to bite a few in the ass.

  • AnthonyLook

    Racist, bigoted and forever labeling Mozilla as anti gay, homophobic and bigoted friendly.

  • http://www.rebeccamorn.com/mind BeccaM

    Thanks Colin, that means a lot to me. And I know exactly what you mean in referring to a ‘Circle’.

    Merry Meet, my friend.

  • http://www.rebeccamorn.com/mind BeccaM

    Understood, and appreciated.

  • http://www.rebeccamorn.com/mind BeccaM

    This time last year, we were wondering just how badly we were going to have to raid our meager savings to keep paying the mortgage. I had one client after another fall through for months. It wasn’t until May that one finally turned solid.

    That’s the life of the very, very small business owner: You make hay when the sun shines, because you never know when everything’s going to turn fallow again.

  • pappyvet

    Well damn, my wholr comment just vanished. so I will try again.
    Sis,you know well my opinion on such matters. You are a wonderful decent person period. And you are welcome inmy circle anytime. [For those of you who haven’t the knowledge ,”my circle” is a bit more important and deep than a circle of friends etc.]
    An episcopal priest once pointed out a curious occurance of what happens when a stunning woman or handsome man enters a room.Most people stop and look.

  • Bose

    Hey Becca… I’m just concerned about you in the midst of exhaustion borne of two full-time jobs after insightful contributions to Americablog. Please, just be you, stop when that exhausts you, and feel free to mention that you have no more to give, apology-free.

  • http://www.rebeccamorn.com/mind BeccaM

    Believe me, there’s no end to the “List of Wrongness” for anybody who supports or supported Pat Buchanan. Rank homophobia is just one item on a very long list.

  • Jim Olson

    Yes, we’re really appalled that you’ve managed to be successful at what you do, and to convince someone to pay you to do it. Please stop. /snark.

  • tamarz

    Pat Buchanan isn’t just homophobic, he’s a total racist, sexist, isolationist. There’s a reason Molly Ivins said this about Buchanan’s speech at the 1992 Republican convention:
    “Many people did not care for Pat Buchanan’s speech; it probably sounded better in the original German.”

    We should remember that anti-gay politicians are often terrible on a whole range of human rights issues. A person who supports those politicians is suspect on many fronts.

  • Julien Pierre

    Prop 8. was passed after an extremely deceitful campaign. The “Yes on 8″
    TV ads were blatant lies, and just horrible. Even some of my
    low-information, non-voting, gay friends who say them thought they
    should vote for prop 8 after seeing them.
    Prop 8 was unlike all other
    state constitutional amendments against same-sex marriage, because it
    revoked rights that were already legally recognized.

    I was
    deprived of the rights to marry my partner in California for many years,
    as many other LGBT couples were. Brendan Eich contributed $1000 towards
    that campaign. Unlike the 52% of the California electorate who voted
    for Prop 8 in 2008, this contribution was not the mere expression of an
    opinion, but something he actively did to influence the result of the
    referendum that stripped me and others of rights. While the Supreme
    Court declared in “Citizens United” that money is speech, I don’t accept
    that.
    I cannot simply ignore that he made that this contribution.
    Neither do I think the rest of the world can. I think some backlash
    against Brendan Eich is entirely warranted.

    Whether backlash
    against him should translate to a Firefox boycott is much more
    debatable. For better or worse, a CEO represents the corporation, and
    his political opinions cannot be merely considered private matters. I
    believe CEOs should be held to a higher standard than lower-level,
    non-management positions. In this particular case, Brendan Eich was
    already in a high-level position, as a co-founder of Mozilla, and
    previously CTO. He was not recently hired, but merely internally
    promoted to CEO. His “Yes on prop 8 “donation was uncovered years ago,
    and did not make headlines as big then as now. The Mozilla board
    probably underestimated how big of an issue this would become after his
    promotion.

    There is no evidence that he has taken discriminatory
    actions against Mozilla LGBT employees in the past. He has promised that
    he would not do so either as CEO in the future.
    However, he has
    never publicly discussed his reasons for funding Prop 8 in the past, and
    there is no evidence that he has changed his mind on the subject. If he
    did, I believe he would have told the world already, and ended the
    controversy already.
    In my mind, it is difficult to reconcile having
    funded Prop 8 and not being an anti-gay bigot. While many were deceived
    by their churches and very strongly encouraged to fund Prop 8, we don’t
    know if that was the case here. I believe he would have said so as well
    if this was the case. That leaves with him having been and still being
    an anti-gay bigot as the sole explanation for the funding Prop 8. He is
    certainly entitled to his bigoted beliefs. But free speech under the
    First amendment only means it is free of repercussions from the
    government, not from individual citizens. A boycott certainly falls
    under free speech as well. Several Mozilla employees have called for him
    to step down from his CEO role last week.

    I’m a long-time
    contributor to the Mozilla project, including 9 years working on the NSS
    security library – but never as a Mozilla employee. I certainly don’t
    want to see the Mozilla project disappear into oblivion. I am glad the
    controversy ended, before the damage to Mozilla and Firefox became
    irreparable. Having Brendan step down from the CEO role was the best
    outcome.

    Of course, Brendan’s $1000 contribution towards Prop 8
    was relatively small, considering the $40 million+ spent on each side. I
    incidentally also donated $1000 to “No on Prop 8″ – the same amount he
    gave to “Yes on 8″. But I’m proud of having done so.
    Other CEOs have
    contributed to anti-gay causes, even in tech . When AOL acquired
    Netscape, Steve Case donated millions to anti-gay organizations, all the
    while paying Netscape/AOL employees to contribute to the Mozilla
    project .
    And obviously, companies like Chik-Fil-A, Barilla, Wal-Mart, Exxon, and their CEOs have done much worse.
    In that light, the recent reaction to the new Mozilla CEO may be overblown.
    Ultimately,
    it comes down to how much intolerance we can tolerate. I think it’s a
    good thing that the bigots are being pushed into the closet, for a
    change. I worry that many will still continue to promote their bigotry
    anonymously, however.

    As someone who is in an interracial,
    same-sex marriage, I would certainly be just as upset if he had donated
    to a group that opposed interracial marriage. I suspect the rest of the
    world would be more upset about it than about his donation to “Yes on
    prop 8″.

    There is a line between political opinions and human
    rights. Most people nowadays recognize that racism affects human rights
    and is not just a mere political opinion.
    Many people, but not as many, also recognize that LGBT rights, including same-sex marriage, are human rights as well.
    Hopefully In 50 years, there will be as few homophobes as there are racists today, but that will still be too many.

  • caphillprof

    Now that corporations are not just people but religious people, we will need much more of these flash mob boycotts.

  • Jeffrey Karter

    What has rubbed me the wrong way most about Eich is his lack of apology, which has made it clear has not had a change of heart (and/or has not pulled his head out of his bigoted —–), and so would be likely to continue his bigoted, discriminatory ways, either by supporting bigots, or by acting out in bigoted ways.

  • pappyvet

    I’ll bet that with proper training he could be s first rate janitor. Then he could learn what hard work with zero respect is.

  • http://www.rebeccamorn.com/mind BeccaM

    Thanks hon. That’s not uncommon for young folks, for those coming to terms with being gay to declare Bi as a compromise, for a while. While I do have a great deal of respect for people and their declared self-identification, sometimes — especially when dealing with this particular issue — I look to behavior.

    I know nothing about Black’s boyfriend, but there the question is always, “Is he now or has he recently dated women? Has he expressed sexual interest in women?” If the answer is “no”, then the claim of being Bi is suspect. I mean, it’s not that difficult for someone to honestly answer whether there are any members of the same and/or opposite sex they find sexually attractive.

    Everybody here knows of my George Clooney obsession. I figure that alone gets me off the hook in terms of being classified as a lesbian, even though I’ve been monogamously faithful to my wife for going on 15 years now.

  • pappyvet

    You mentioned something the other day. Don’t stress. You whole is more important than you any other way. ;]

  • http://www.rebeccamorn.com/mind BeccaM

    Thanks Bose, but I’m so exhausted of late, I can barely think how best to compose my thoughts.

  • http://www.rebeccamorn.com/mind BeccaM

    Exactly my feeling. The CEO is the leader of the company. Attitudes and policies devolve from the top down, and just because a company as big as Mozilla might have inclusiveness policies on the books, that doesn’t necessarily mean it’ll translate into action.

    Plus, as we know, for every overt act of discrimination, there are hundreds of covert and subtle ways people can be discriminated against. The gay person passed over for a promotion. Or whose work is judged more harshly than his or her colleagues. Or who receives poor performance evaluations or undeserved punitive treatment.

    It’s one thing to be a senior manager or VP or CTO even. Another entirely to be the boss who answers to nobody but the shareholders.

  • http://www.rebeccamorn.com/mind BeccaM

    Just tell ‘em Eich donated a thousand bucks to Pat Buchanan. The same guy who, just last December, praised Vladimir Putin’s crack-down on LGBTs in Russia. Who last month said Gov. Brewer should’ve signed Arizona’s “gays stay away” law. And in his autobiography wrote,

    “Whose moral code says we may interfere with a man’s right to
    be a practicing bigot, but must respect and protect his right to be a
    practicing sodomite?

    There’s lots more here: http://fair.org/press-release/pat-buchanan-in-his-own-words/

    Then ask those same folks how much Eich can be trusted, or whether he was just playing lip-service for PR purposes to the very notion of inclusiveness and respect for diversity.

  • StraightGrandmother

    As far as I am concerned he can stay working there, just not as CEO. Not the LEADER of the company.

  • StraightGrandmother

    Somebody on Joe My God Googed him and he has his undergrad degree from a Catholic University, married with like 5 kids. These hardcore Catholics simply will NOT agree to Equal Civil Rights for Sexual Minorities. The refuse to hold their views for themselves only.

    Change of topic. Becca I was thinking about you when that gay young swimmer from the UK, the one Lance Black is dating, I guess he came out today and said that he really isn’t bi-sexual after all, but in fact gay. I was thinking of that discussion we had how this happens to you real bi people all the time. People jumping in claiming your orientation (bi) as a halfway point. I can see how that messes with you because ppl wonder if you really are bi or simply using it as a half way point until you are fully ready to come out as gay. Anyway I was thinking of you today.

  • Bose

    Hey Becca… I break out in allergic hives when writers/thinkers I like apologize for not publishing more due to paying gigs.

    Here’s my thought about a non-apologetic alternative…

    BTW, off-topic: I’d rather have been posting more at Americablog recently, but I have landed two full-time (paid!) gigs recently, and I will continue fighting for stuff that matters..

  • StraightGrandmother

    Oh no, I jumped on the bandwagon. I sent out lots of tweets on this.
    When one Mozilla developer wrote how he is collateral damage I tweeted back, don’t blame us is Brendans fault.

    When another one, a gay rights supporter a Mozilla Developer wrote how he supports peoples rights to political speech. I told him to stop pinkwashing it as *Political Speech* it’s a Civil Rights issue.

    I can be fierce on twiter, I’ll stay on it.

  • Indigo

    Whew! I see, though. It was a sideways promotion for an old cog in the wheels of Mozilla administration. An unfortunate decision promptly reversed. It’s good that he’s gone. I hope he stays gone. And I hope to gosh Mozilla gets through this mess without too much of a stain. I mean . . . I don’t like Chrome and I don’t want to operate IE again (good grief!) and I’m not tech-enough to go to some of the really kool kids operating systems, so Mozilla’s all I’ve got.

  • http://www.rebeccamorn.com/mind BeccaM

    Honestly, I was figuring this would last one news cycle and then be forgotten. My thought initially wasn’t that Eich would simply point to Mozilla’s company policies, but rather he’d say something like how he’d personally ‘evolved’ (to borrow Obama’s term) on the issue of same-sex marriage and apologize to the families whose donation he helped hurt during the Prop 8 campaign.

    Y’know, a kind of introspective, soul-searching type answer. Something that at least sounds like he’s changed on gay rights issues.

    Instead, he deflected and was defensive. And as I said, he claimed commitment to Mozilla’s policies of inclusion and respect — but did not say whether he personally believed in them.

    Still, I thought Eich would get a pass. That is, until word of his other donations began to be known, with his financial support of some of the wackiest of the whack-job radical right wingnuts out there, including McClintock, Ron Paul, and Pat Buchanan. Couple that with a total lack of public or political support for progressive causes… and well, let’s just say we didn’t have to scratch very deep to see his real opinions on a number of things.

    Learning just today how the Guardian had asked Eich about his donations to Buchanan and whether he still agreed with Buchanan’s positions, as he obviously must have done in the early 90s — with Eich refusing to answer — was an eye-opener.

  • Ryan

    When you first reported the story, I didn’t expect it to go anywhere. I must admit that you have better instincts for this than I do.

  • http://www.rebeccamorn.com/mind BeccaM

    Eich was picked because he was chief architect going back to the day when Mozilla was spun off from Netscape (after AOL’s acquisition). He’s been involved with the company since day one, and so as someone pointed out, he was essentially exchanging one C-job (CEO, CTO, CFO, etc.) for another one.

    However, what they didn’t count on is that CEO is waaaaay more visible than CTO or any other executive position.

    Basically, it wasn’t a hire but a promotion. On the other hand, yes, I agree with you that tapping him to be CEO definitely called into question Mozilla’s commitment to equal rights and respect for all.

  • bkmn

    In my mind Eich is not the focus here. It is Mozilla, a company that prides itself on being inclusive. So why hire a guy to lead the company when his history is full of examples of donating to causes that are anti-inclusion? If inclusion is important to Mozilla why did they put Eich in the big chair?

    Eich would not just be a figurehead, he would be making daily decisions on how the company is run that could affect so many people.

    The fact that Eich made it to the CEO position of Mozilla makes me question their commitment to diversity.

  • http://www.rebeccamorn.com/mind BeccaM

    BTW, off-topic: Sorry for my paucity of posts on Americablog of late. I am literally working two full-time jobs right now.

  • http://musephotos.wordpress.com/ GarySFBCN

    I’m posting this everywhere, but it keeps evolving:

    What’s been absent in this discussion is that the people who campaigned for proposition 8 – the people who Eich gave money to – used lies, deceit and demagoguery to malign and marginalize millions of us in order to win the election. We were portrayed as child molesters, perverts and worse.

    We did eventually win the prop 8 battle but not without great sacrifice of time, money, blood, sweat and a LOT of tears.

    Mozilla would never hire a CEO who is anti-black or anti-Jewish. We sure as hell are not going to let them hire a homophobic bigot and continue to use their products. Given how the prop 8 people told so many lies in order to win, I have no trust at all in anything Eich says now.

    Actions have consequences. None of the prop 8 promoters and supporters have asked for forgiveness for their roles in the despicable and hurtful campaign, which is revealing. I doubt that many of them have changed their opinions.

    According to the courts, prop 8 was motivated by animus. People who are concerned about what happened need to see it this way:

    When it is revealed that the personal actions of a CEO are contrary to a company’s values and that is damaging the company brand, and when that company is facing a massive boycott because of that CEO’s personal actions, and when the CEO’s actions are supporting prejudice or discrimination directed against a widely-discriminated-against group of people, this should ALWAYS happen.

  • MyrddinWilt

    Mozilla is based in Mountain View. I have several friends working there. Being anti-gay in the valley tech world is like working in the Manhattan diamond business and donating to the NAZI party.

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