Russian thugs attack 2 Pussy Riot women in McDonald’s, one has concussion

Two members of the female Russian punk rock/activist group were violently attacked in Nizhny Novgorod, Russia today by thugs, which Amnesty International said appeared to be sent by “an organized group.”

The women went to the hospital, where one was diagnosed with a concussion:

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The women were attacked with pepper spray and a green chemical throw in their faces.  Thus, I believe the red you see on the one woman’s face below is blood:

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At least one of the women appeared on Stephen Colbert’s “Colbert Report” not a month ago.

In a video posted online, see below, you can see the men throw things at the woman, and spray them with pepper spray or something similar. The men yell epithets at the women, calling them “whores” and “bitches,” and telling them to shove their chicken meals “in your c*nt.”

You can hear someone calling for McDonald’s security, but McDonald’s security appears to never show up, while the attack against the women continues.

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Due to the video, the faces of the attackers are clearly evident. But the government of Russian President Vladimir Putin has a poor track record of prosecuting such attacks, even when the attackers are on film.

Here is the one shooting the pepper spray, in the video you can hear the women scream:

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As you can see, it’s not terribly difficult identifying the attackers:

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The attackers appeared to have their own cameraman.

As I wrote earlier, Russian neo-Nazis claim to have committed nearly 1,500 kidnappings of gays, blacks and Jews, and while there is abundant video of the abductions – the criminals video themselves and post the films on Russian social media site VK.com, where they also organize the kidnappings – the perpetrators are rarely investigated or arrested.

The Russian government is thought to either tacitly, or overtly, approve of this violence, as it’s occuring against “enemies of the state,” be they gays, blacks, Jews, successful industrialists who don’t toe the party line, or in this case, a couple of women in a band who don’t know their place in a country over-run by actual neo-Nazis.


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  • Bill_Perdue

    I’m a left oppositionist, and we do see the pre-Stalin USSR as being a force for good. We harbor no such feelings about the racist, anti-worker and pro-war Democrat and Republican regimes in the US. We dislike them as much, and for the same reasons, as we disliked Stalinism, for which tens of thousands of anti-Stalinist socialists paid the ultimate price. The Purge trials were all about the left opposition. “The Great Purge was a campaign of political repression in the Soviet Union orchestrated by Joseph Stalin from 1934 to 1939. It involved a large-scale purge of the Communist Party and government officials, repression of peasants and the Red Army leadership, and widespread police surveillance, suspicion of “saboteurs”, imprisonment, and arbitrary executions.” Wiki

    But that has noting to do with facts. I respect facts, not suppositions. There is proof of two murders, and proof of a couple of dozen every year here. NCAVP http://www.avp.org/

    Where is that data that shows that Russia is controlled by neo-Nazis, that they’ve won there. In a political or a military sense overrun means ‘to attack and defeat decisively, occupying and controlling the enemy’s position; overwhelm.”

    Putin is a right wing racist, a homophobe, a warmonger and anti-labor. He very much like Obama but with less power to do evil.

    Sorry this was a late response, I just found it.

  • Bill_Perdue

    As I said, you have no facts to back up your patriotic opinions. Try to get some at http://www.avp.org/storage/documents/ncavp_2012_ipvreport.final.pdf

    As for your statement that “We’ve never experienced it in the form of groups specifically created to promote homophobia” you’re totally out of touch. NOM and Obama BFs Rick Warren and Donnie McClurkin as well as scum like Scott Lively and dozens of other organization and cults make a living off of homophobia and promoting anti gay violence like the kind that been surging in New the last two years. .

    Get some facts.Then get back to us.

  • Bam

    You think the US is some hotbed of anti-gay violence? I’ve never once even witnessed anything like that. I mean it has happened but in this country we make a huge deal out something like that talk about it so much that it probably creates an impression bigger than it is. We also one of the world’s best reporting for anti-gay attacks. Whereas in most of the world those things aren’t even reported. In the US we have a very efficient network and great cooperation between law enforcement agencies. And young people in the US have been continuing to become more and more accepting of glbt. It’s very common now for people to come out younger and younger and there is usually strong peer support and schools have begun to develop programs to address bullying from the earliest years. These days in most schools if someone starts harassing a gay person or anyone for that matter the programs have taught the rest of kids to turn the attention onto the bully. This is a very effective in controlling the behavior and it extends into outreach to the parents which is a good thing. I feel good about where we are in the US at this point. Sure you might here of isolated instances of gay bashing, but in the overall society it’s not longer socially accepted. I’m sure there are circles where it’s just a coded homophobia or attitude that they share privately, just like racism, but the open presence of gays and lesbians as a normal part of society has been here for over 20 years and the backlash just has lost steam. Even conservative churches are starting to admit defeat in the marriage battle and the energy against gay marriage isn’t there anymore as states continue to legalize it. So yeah, I don’t feel a climate homophobia. Even in the military nobody cares, especially the younger generation. It’s very odd to see young people in Eastern Europe organizing themselves in homophobia campaigns. We’ve never experienced it in the form of groups specifically created to promote homophobia. Now that’s messed up. if that were in the US you’d see just ordinary parents going after stopping it because no one wants a group going around harassing children. Organized homophobia is a weird thing. We have Westboro but they’re like barking dogs in a cage. And have actually helped turn the popular opinion to support gay rights because the nastiness and unfairness of their argument made a lot of people cringe and then when started going after the military and funerals of people they enraged the public so much that they turned to support the gay community. Now Uganda is the place to watch. It’s almost as bad as Russia in some ways. But despite their rhetoric it’s mostly all talk. The international business community as well as most developed nations have put huge pressure on Uganda.

  • Bam

    That’s mild compared to my ideas but I think you are right. People like that only intimidate those who are weaker. Shame them and it would probably make them realize that this is not just a game. Fear and intimidation is terrible and they should know the other side. I’d like to force him into putting on a dress and makeup with wig, drag him down to a gay bar and make him do drag shows while streaming video of it and call everyone he to watch. Maybe then he’ll decide Nazism isn’t the best life path.

  • Bam

    This is the first of these videos that anyone has resisted at all and the little boys ran out when someone confronts them. I remember back in jr. high school there was a while where I experienced a little bullying, nothing compared this this stuff, but I remember it was similar in that I would cooperate and they’d laugh at how they could make me do things, nothing big, it was just teasing but the feeling of being under the control of another person through fear is terrible. One day I got so sick of it I got right in their face grabbed their shirt and told them I had enough of it and if you want to fight me then go ahead but I’m not playing your game anymore. He was so thrown aback that he just backed off saying it’s okay we were just joking. They never tried it again. It’s not that easy for people over there, but it does show that underneath their tough guy act they are just little boys who only have power over those they can bully into submission. When the the unseen guy began shaming him, he cowered away. This is an authoritarian culture where they prey on perceived weakness and submit to someone more dominant then them. This is part of why the gay community is being victimized. Rallies get like 10 participants at most opposed to a couple of hundred loud and enraged counter-protesters and maybe 20 cops.

    It’s pathetic that 10 people is the most they could muster up, but understandable with so much intimidation. The problem is that by hiding the community is showing their weakness and simply confirming suspicious that they must be guilty. Worse, there’s a constant message being sent to them that what is angering people is the parades and activism. Just keep it private and no one will bother you they’re told. And faced with that kind of intimidation the majority will gladly accept that deal. But this is no answer. For one thing that’s only a temporary reprieve to get you to silence. And it’s setting a precedent for your control. You will still not be safe in your own society. Sooner or later they’ll be back. Making deals with thugs only normalizes thuggery. Going into hiding is letting those still out there down just to save yourself. This is something you have to decide based on the situation and your ability. There is safety in numbers. That’s why the neo-nazis travel in groups of 50 or more.

    It cracks me up that the kid thinks it’s acceptable for him to approach woman in a public space, throw food on her, and then keep yelling at her why she was there and telling her to leave the city. We don’t want that activity here. WTF? Why is it even any of his damn business to begin with? In the U.S. if someone acted like people would intervene and tackle to the ground, the police would a net on him and he’d be take to psychiatric hospital. But in Russia that’s considered normal? I can’t stop laughing at his crazy pleas for her to stop her activity and leave our town. haha Why is he that bothered about what she does? I mean this stuff is weird to me. People here would be like, “why am I here? Why don’t you tell why you are here?” I would be like of your damn business psycho stalker, now runalong and leave me alone.

    And he keeps saying the same thing over and over. The best thing was when she started asking him not to do that to anyone else and that he hurt her. You could tell he was starting to crack at that point. Russian bullies are used to submissive victims who cooperate or those who halfway struggle and keep get smacked down until they give up. She flipped it on him and started asking him the questions and making the requests. That threw him off. And tone was one that wasn’t hostile nor submissive and pleading but more an appeal from a human to another human. You could see him getting confused because she was no longer the monster weirdo demon they expected, but an actual person. Then the other guy took that opening and shamed him. I’m glad to finally see someone resist and them leave. Of course, the fact that could happen in a public space and everyone just stand around is weird. Even the idea that a gang of people would feel the need to go up to strangers and demand they leave town. Like the sheriff who tells you to leave town by dusk or something. Who give him the authority anyway.

    The only way Russia is going to change is for it to be 100% defeated and shamed into humiliation, ever facet of the culture needs to shaken. An investigation and trial for every single incident of neo-nazi activity needs to be dealt. Leave no stone unturned and no violation not prosecuted. After Germany fell, it took a while but look at German people as compared to Russians. If the Germans can change then there’s hope for Russia. But it must be a complete and total defeat to work. No part of the old structure can survive This is how you move past a nationalist stage. If parts of the old remain it will grow back and continue. Sometimes you just have to beat the arrogance out of fascist before you can pray away the Nazi.

  • Bill_Perdue

    Anti gay hate crimes are likely unreported everywhere, here and in Russia.

    The facts, as we know them, are that there were 25 reported murders here in 2012 and 2 in Russia in 2013. That’s likely because Putin’s antigay campaign is relatively new there after being ended in 93 or so. But as John pointed out, it’s gathering steam and will likely get worse.

    There are dozens of murders in Brazil. The hangings in Iran and the kidnap-murders in Iraq are done by cops and the militia but they’re still hate crimes.

  • Bill_Perdue

    Because of the western banks push into Ukraine there will be lots of opportunities to criticize the Putin regime which can best be compared to an imaginary Trump regime, both are mad capitalists.

  • ComradeRutherford

    You guys are right!

    It makes much more sense that Pussy Riot built a movie set that looks like a McDonalds and hired a bunch of actors to be patrons and thugs.

    That’s the only explanation that makes sense.

  • Anonymous

    I think they should just stay in Moscow. Most of Russia is a cyclone of idiocy. These aren’t educated people by any means. People who have dead alcoholic fathers, are forced to chop wood from the age of 10 to survive the winter, and have no formal education…not exactly people I’d trust to be delicate with anything new or different.

  • Anonymous

    The closet cases would enjoy that too much.

  • Anonymous

    Exactly…these fictional stories are more accurate than anything the media tells us is going on…

  • Anonymous

    Because they’ve bred nationalists, except instead of communism of fascism we have so called “capitalism.” We’re always told capitalism is a perfect system, an honest system that works. In reality, we’re just brainwashed to give taxes and consumer dollars to businesses. The people at the top take more money than they deserve, embezzle funds, etc… Republicans are either in complete denial, or actually have a business that they have a vested interest in funding. They are so concerned with welfare that they don’t realize that the 1% live just as irresponsibly. And with MORE actual dollars. They need scapegoats that aren’t them. Romney would have been our next despot; he lied about his “tax plan” to make 99% of businesses “small businesses” and therefore get the associated tax breaks. People are so stupid, hateful and irrational that real arguments don’t work. The only hope is to calm down their nationalist fervor.

  • Anonymous

    We need to change the course of the 2016 election now…DEMAND better candidates than the Republican loons & Hillary, smear campaign them all…we can’t afford 4 more years of this nonsense. Otherwise I’ll just leave the country

  • Anonymous

    The world cup in 4 years will still be there, so they really can’t just fade form view. Russia has a good amount of money now and several allies (that they leech money from). I’d say Putin’s insanity lately is pretty relevant. At least in the past they kept quiet, now they are getting ansty and people will revolt.

  • Anonymous

    Bill, love ya, but the police in Russia aren’t reporting hate crime murders as in America. A lot of these thugs are never taken to court and don’t see much time in jail. That’s why America has more prisoners relative to other countries – things are actually illegal here, and well-enforced. How else would it be possible for so many lawyers to have jobs?

  • Anonymous

    This is true but at least in America we have an organized legal system, surveillance etc. and we at least know that violence needs to be removed from society. Some countries do not even realize that. Case in point…

  • Anonymous

    If you think about the fact that many Russia men are beating their wives, it’s not a surprise.

    Russian NHL player accused of beating girlfriend: “I would beat you more if we were in Russia”
    ‘He was having fun, he was laughing,’ said the model. ‘He has no concept of when to stop drinking, and when he drinks he turns into an animal.’
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2517282/Colorado-Avalanche-goalie-Semyon-Varlamov-laughs-court-beating-model-girlfriend.html

    This is just what goes on behind closed doors there all the time. They are drunk, violent and ignorant for the most part. No wonder the average American idiot who’s eking out a living in a trailer supports them. Both Russia and America have more money than intelligence, and unfortunately the idiots have “human rights”

  • Anonymous

    Who said anything about being anti-establishment you buffoon? Stop defending the actions of thugs, you are fooling no one. Trust me you aren’t as intelligent as you believe.

  • Anonymous

    I do agree it’s suspicious that these guys seemed so calm, and that nobody in McDonald’s did anything. And also, her husband was behind the camera just watching. But then at the same time, these Occupy Pedophilia guys have actually killed people. I don’t think criminals there really care about getting caught. The legal system is a joke.

  • Anonymous

    Oh really, motherfucker? I’m sure the majority wouldn’t agree with you. But if you think so, why don’t you try ganging up with some friends, then throwing acid, weapons and other shit at women just sitting in a McDonald’s? See what happens. Honestly, I dare you to try it in this country, and not in backwoods Russia. You’re so tough until you can end up being someone’s bitch in prison.

  • http://shan.bandcamp.com/ shantiq

    i personally think those guys are actors not thugs also as in the “Cossack” who looked to me like a dancer and not a hard military guy …. think the girls might be playing the media game ….. we all know they have real enemies but these do not look like the real deal …. is my personal reading of this info

  • Stevie Caldwell

    Awesome response

  • barada

    Maybe gay-bashing vigilantes could be kidnapped and made to watch the wrestling scene from Women In Love, hit in the face with a banana cream pie, and forced to sing “WMCA” loudly and enthusiastically on camera for a youtube video before they are left, handcuffed to a telephone pole wearing a bra and pink panties.

    OK, I know that is extreme.

    But SOMEthing has to be done

  • pappyvet

    I agree John.
    Here’s an interesting story from Reuters.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/05/13/us-russia-gay-idUSBRE94C0AX20130513

  • Bill_Perdue

    Two murders were reported. If you have evidence of more we’ll all be more informed. But we need facts and data.

    I agree that anti-gay violence is under reported in every nation.

    There is more reported violence in the US, in Brazil and in Uganda caused by right wing scum like Lively, Robertson, Swaggart Obama BBF’s Warren and McClurkin.

    My political tradition is the Left Opposition and we’ve been critics of Stalinism for decades.

  • Bill_Perdue

    The centers of antigay violence are Brazil, the US and Uganda, where a US inspired terror is beginning. Russia is also a center, as are Iran and Iraq. Now that Sochi is over Russia may move to the fore.

    We have to aim our fire at all of them, and particularly at bigots in the US who export their vile anti-gay bigotry, while acting in solidarity and under their direction with our sisters and brothers in other countries.

  • http://AMERICAblog.com/ John Aravosis

    I don’t see any neo-nazis gangs in 30 American cities kidnapping and torturing 1500 gay people, then posting the videos online where American companies refuse to take them down. Oh, and the kidnappers know the rule of law is so nonexistent that they have no problem showing their faces in the video. They don’t dare do that crap in America. Because their asses would be in jail in an hour.

  • http://AMERICAblog.com/ John Aravosis

    You don’t actually believe that there were only two murders of gay people in Russia in 2013, do you? I get that you like these guys. It’s the same problem I think that Katrina at the Nation has. There seems to be this lingering love with Soviet Russia, that “even though it went too far, it had its heart in the right place.” So now we’re going to pretend that it’s better for gays in Russia than the US. I’m sorry, but that’s absurd. You are familiar with American history, and thus the history of the world, and the way it works with reporting crimes? That just because crimes arent reported, or recorded, doesn’t mean they didn’t happen? Who would report a gay bashing in Russia when the Kremlin is in cahoots with the bashers? What gay person is going to publicly tell the authorites they’re gay in a country where being gay pretty much means your child was a pedophile, if not a mass murderer? What family is going to publicly declare that their murdered son is a fag in a country like that? The government is colluding with actual Nazis, and we expect people to go them for help? Occupy Pedophilia claims to have committed nearly 1,500 anti-gay kidnappings in the past 18 months alone. I’m sorry, but I can handle you longing for the Soviet days – I personally find it odd, but that’s your call. But please don’t play games with the numbers and attempt to tell us that Russia, a country overrun with neo-Nazis and skinheads that are in cahoots with the government is somehow akin to – nay, better than – life in America for anyone.

  • ComradeRutherford

    As I wrote, the Republocrats and the Demicans.

    Or, if you like ‘1984’ analogies, the GOP is the Inner Party, and the Dems are the Outer Party…

  • http://AMERICAblog.com/ John Aravosis

    I thought that with this video, and with the gay kidnapping videos, and with the Russian invasion of Crimea. I’d go all Red Dawn on their ass.

  • http://AMERICAblog.com/ John Aravosis

    Not to mention, though I’ve never been to Nizhny Novgorod, I have been to other Russian cities, and the place isn’t exactly known for its great selection of stores :)

  • Bill_Perdue

    They are not better than Republicans, they are the same as Republicans.

  • lynchie

    Go back to your basement and ask your Mommie for meatloaf.

  • lynchie

    Maybe they went there for safety. They have more balls in their little finger than you have in your pants.

  • lynchie

    sounds like one of the party platforms that came out of the CPAC meeting. The gathering of the criminally insane. Dems aren’t smart enough to hold a meeting of Progressives the bag of shit we would be throwing would put them off their meals. That is if they would even let the public in.

  • jared

    I really don’t know ;(

  • ComradeRutherford

    “large numbers of people fell for Obama’s BS.”

    I am proud to say that I knew how corrupt Obama was before the primary election. Both he and Ms. Clinton are pretty much the same to me.

    However, both of them are ever-so-slightly better than any GOP candidate…

    As a friend of mine put it, the biggest difference between the Demicans and the Republocrats is how fast to turn the US into a totalitarian police state. The Republocrats want is yesterday, and the Demicans want it tomorrow.

  • ComradeRutherford

    “when that didn’t work right away, they tried to kill him.”

    From the Simpsons episode where a comet was going to destroy Springfield, but the pollution was so thick it burned the comet up until it hit the ground no bigger than a chihuahua’s head:

    Moe: Let’s burn down the Observatory (that discovered the comet), so this will never happen again!!!

  • ComradeRutherford

    Apparently not enough. The GOP keeps insisting that we have to cut taxes for the tiny few insanely rich just so they can buy their third solid-gold mansion…

  • Stevie Caldwell

    Yeh because pussy riot would be shot

  • Stevie Caldwell

    Anti establishment ? Then why the hell were they in Mcdonalds ?????

  • profbarkingmad

    My alter-ego Therion is absorbing all of this hate and violence energy in order to recharge his evil supercapacitor of annihilation and focus it worldwide on the wives and children of these subhuman oligarchs

  • Peter

    I just love Masha. Thugs are really lucky I wasn’ near at the moment. Vova would not rescue them.

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  • HolyMoly

    Security didn’t want to intervene, lest they be identified and subsequently targeted by the attackers, either then or later. The result being that “when they came for the [insert group name here], I did nothing,” and it was too late to do anything “when they came for me.”

  • Badgerite

    Putin’s Russia! This is where he is taking them. Here’s a link to their appearance on NPR just after they got out of prison. http://www.npr.org/2014/02/06/272359826/pussey-riot-russian-prison-sentence-will-help-us-fix-the-system
    They have a book out about their time and their experiences in prison entitled
    Words Will Break Cement: The Passion of Pussy Riot
    Written by Masha Gessen.

  • alboy2

    Such brave men! What a bunch of needle-dicked, overcompensating thugs. Putin must be very proud of his bully boys…can’t take criticism from a bunch of unarmed women? Cowards, every single last one of them…it’s just disgusting. And thanks FOX, for supporting this “strong leader.” Criminals, all of them.

  • lynchie

    Just as the GOP tools would re-elect Regan or GW again. The south would vote for slavery again if given the chance.

  • lynchie

    It is fair to call them what they are “Russians”. The general population has to start taking some ownership over what is happening in their country. They can’t just look away and blame a few radicals. If they don’t want across the board judgements then demand that these type of actions be stopped.

  • lynchie

    Wall street and the banks do it every day. Screwing the poor and elderly and grabbing more off the buffet table than they can carry. I ask myself every time I read a story about the latest wall street broker getting off with no charges laid “how many millions are enough”? How many homes/cars/watches/airplanes do you need.

  • lynchie

    But if you have guns so will they. Russia is a completely lawless country if you are a minority and reflects Putin’s tough guy image. GW also portrayed a tough guy remember his “bring it on” bullshit and that feeling is rampant in the U.S. So many people feeling emboldened to threaten, beat and belittle others. Of course the easiest is the elderly and poor who can’t fight back. Our tough guy GOP who have never seen a homeless person they wouldn’t kick in the nuts just for sport.

  • Anonymous

    Things like this are the reason a part of me supports guns in America. At least people like this wouldn’t be able to pull shit here.

  • Bill_Perdue

    I provided data and links. You provide what, exactly?

  • barada

    The Ukraine situation makes Putin look pretty bad. But crap like this reflects on THE RUSSIAN PEOPLE and their culture. Personally, I’d like to see some Russian leftist vigilantes beat the crap out of these scum. But that’s just me, and I know that isn’t an admirable opinion to have. But, so be it.

  • mirror

    Is there a video showing the faces of the killers? Do they advertise in mainstream social media owned by people who lunch with the movers and shakers of the country? gettin old man.

  • Anonymous

    What could possibly be wrong with 5 cent, ammonia soaked patties with DNA from 100 cows each? It’s probably perfectly good for you, after all one doesn’t have so many calories.

  • Max_1

    John,
    I’ve long said that we should be boycotting McD’s as sponsor of Olympic hate.

  • Anonymous

    Dissidents show down the knee-jerk, mob mentality and bring about tolerance. When you inspire people to have a hive-mind, as with nationalists, their actions can become irrational. It’s basic psychology. Cult psychology is in effect where nationalism, religion, and other rigid groups are involved. It’s brainwashing, that simple. The Chinese used to brainwash POWs to “convert” them to communism. It wires your brain to believe that agreeing with the group is the only way to survive. That’s not freedom. Stockholm syndrome with your government is not freedom.

  • Bill_Perdue

    All Democrat candidates and all Republican candidates are reactionary simply based on the fact that they run in or for those parties.

    The US is a hotbed on warmongering wars of aggression, unreconstructed racism, immigrant bashing, attacks on the Bill of Rights and union busting to drive down the wages of workers.

    All of these problems stem from the actions of the Democrat and Republican parties and that includes progressives like Fox commentator Kucinich. Instead we should back socialists and labor party candidates, or write in Chelsea Manning or just sit it out. It doesn’t matter which reactionary Democrat or Republican wins, our job will be to create mass movements to Whigize those parties and replace them with workers parties, the political engines that can create a workers state.

  • Anonymous

    As we hear from trolls, blogging is a pastime…I guess these trolls don’t want to know how many Google hits John has. Lol.

  • Anonymous

    As well as irresponsible – it’s easier to justify your behavior when it’s part of a mob. If you can blame it on the other guy, it’s easier to get away with it.

  • Anonymous

    From what I see Russia still resents that Poland fought hard and got away. Especially the fact that they maintained a successful religious, homogenous culture (ie all the things Russia wants) BUT has a democracy. Russia is like a bitter ex.

  • Anonymous

    America is full of homophobia, crime and theocratic ideas unfortunately.

  • Bill_Perdue

    It, along with the US and nations run by the US and other colonial powers, like Uganda, are global hotbeds of homophobia.

  • Anonymous

    Especially since 2012. I’ve seen a huge rise in media coverage since then. Before, people were more or less satisfied with Putin, as he grew the economy for a while. But population growth has slowed again, and people are dissatisfied. He’s blaming gays for population stagnation, immigrants for taking jobs, women for not producing kids. And on and on.

    And I agree with you America is moving backwards and forfeiting its rights.

  • Anonymous

    I hate to be the one to say it, but the only comparison are Nazis. Even if it’s not on a mandatory scale yet, it’s casual political vigilantism. In the 21st century I think it’s pretty appalling, especially for a country we inexplicably see as developed, like the Germany of yore.

  • Bill_Perdue

    Russians have been waking up in huge numbers since Putin was reelected. They’re workers, socialists, LGBT activists, civil libertarians, and anti-war activists. They’re way ahead of us the US where large numbers of people fell for Obama’s BS.

  • Anonymous

    Rio has its own problems and the Olympics will be there in 2 years. I really shudder to think about it. It’s always been a hotbed of violence in general.

  • Anonymous

    It’s politically motivated. The right wing is always like this, get the stronger people (inevitably the male majority) to attack others. It gives them something to do and makes them feel useful.

  • Bill_Perdue

    A gay teenager has been tortured and murdered near the stadium that will host the World Cup opening ceremony in summer. Kaique Batista dos Santos, 16, had all his teeth pulled out with pliers and was battered to death by a gang of skinheads. His body was found in Sao Paulo just a mile away from the stadium which is hosting the tournament’s opening ceremony on June 12th. http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/kaique-batista-dos-santos-gay-3030613

    Uganda Gays Face New Wave of Fear Under Anti-Gay Bill – As President Yoweri Museveni signs a draconian new anti-homosexuality bill, Kampala’s openly gay members report an uptick in harassment and violence. … there have increasingly been unlawful house raids of suspected homosexuals, arrests, blackmail from landlords threatening tenants with eviction and that lesbians have been forced into marriage to cover up their sexuality and other have even been raped by family members and friends to cure them of what is considered a “disease.”

    25 LGBT folks were murdered in the US in 2012. There were two murders in Russia in 2013. … 73.1% of anti-LGBTQ homicides were people of color, while a staggering 53.8% of anti-LGBTQ homicide victims in 2012 were transgender women, up from 40% in 2011. What’s more, the report found that “LGBTQ people of color were 1.82 times as likely to experience physical violence compared to white LGBTQ people, and gay men were 1.56 times as likely to require medical attention compared to other survivors reporting.” http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/05/hate-violence-report-2012_n_3390090.html

  • Anonymous

    Putin sweats like a whore in church these days. He’ll eventually give up. When people realize that such a “great” leader doesn’t even like his post, they’ll wake up. When they realize he’s building palaces, they’ll wake up. People didn’t wake up under Hitler until their great leader, their “perfect man” killed himself. Someone has to say the emperor has no clothes before they realize he’s naked.

    He riles up their emotions tirelessly, makes them hate, makes them irrational. Until that stops, there is no hope. The sheer anger…the emotion coming out of there is an inferno. I’ve heard from someone who lived there that Russia has a lot of fighting and instability. Someone needs to slow that down somehow.

  • Anonymous

    The positive does help, I agree. But in a country where the leader is negative and hateful, and brainwashes people to be…how do you counteract that? Dissidents have no voice at all, dissidence in itself is seen as negative, even when it’s not.

  • jared

    I finally disagree. I truly believe people inherently want to do the right thing; but for all of our sentience/intelligence we’re remarkably easily swayed. Call me naive, but I truly believe this species will evolve beyond all of this crap sometime in the future. Doesn’t mean I base my ideology on idealism, I live in the now, but I do believe it will happen… and it will happen through the positive and not hate.

  • Anonymous

    Everybody has an opinion. There are reasons not to trust or like Hilary as the idealist candidate she wants to be. Look at how Obama turned out.

  • Sherril Stewart

    My two little “monsters” are very intelligent, playful, loyal, and unique. I love my Sphynx cats.

  • wearing out my F key

    Officer Big Mac tried to intervien, and was able to chase the thugs out of the McDonald’s… Unfortunately, a murder of hungry crows were loitering in the parking lot, and Officer Big Mac’s head is almost entirely a toasted sesame seed bun. By the time the birds were gone, so were the assailants.

  • http://musephotos.wordpress.com/ GarySFBCN

    You mean Michelle Bachmann?

    Idiot.

  • Anonymous

    Most people are unintelligent, superstitious, and too ignorant of complex dynamics in society to be educated voters. Letting them harm others is extremely dangerous. You could explain to a conservative that the economy is failing because of corruption, a poor budget, etc. and their attention won’t be held. But tell them the “solution” is something irrational, something quick that they can relate to, and they like it. Most people are not intelligent and are easily frustrated, and that’s why violence is so often the solution for them. Recall Hitler’s “final solution” – killing the Jews that he blamed for bank failures. And people STILL like that, because they think it sounds right, and that maybe Hitler WAS right because it “feels” right.

    Recall the movie “Idiocracy” – the smartest man on earth tried to change society to make crops grow, and when that didn’t work right away, they tried to kill him.

  • ComradeRutherford

    In Russia it is legal to video your assault on innocent people because no one will ever be punished.

    The Conservatives in the USA all wish they could get away with this here.

  • Anonymous

    Unfortunately if a black guy, woman, religious minority, etc. wants to have such a high position of power, they have to act like the usual guy. Obama proves that. Hilary will be a white guy in a white woman’s body. You can count on that.

    Better to just back a male democrat that looks like the majority but acts like the minority.

  • Anonymous

    People are absolute idiots for supporting the Russian version of the truth. First of all, Crimea was a coverup for other incidents that day and the oppression of Ukrainians in general. People really think that “this time will be different” but they don’t understand how predictable human behavior is. Leader posts himself despite not being elected by the majority, insiders say he is “going crazy,” he occupies a sovereign country claiming it’s “his” – hm, what could possibly go wrong? Unfortunately most people are stupid, and as ever, only the intelligent minority like us understand what’s really happening. Most people worship authority because frankly, they don’t have a say in the matter, and they want to avoid the cognitive dissonance of disagreeing with the majority.
    There WERE intelligent people in the ’30s, they were just ignored. People were warning others about Hitler; he killed the dissidents and people supported it. Then he went crazy and threw millions to their deaths, both with genocide and war. People will learn the hard way. WW3 – comin’ right up!

  • Anonymous

    Sometimes I really feel like it’s too soon, John. We post about Sharia law hangings and dismemberings. It doesn’t change a thing.

  • Anonymous

    Because Russia

  • Anonymous

    Hard to make them follow the rules, as these franchises are owned by different people…think about it.

  • Anonymous

    There are good people in Russia but at the end of the day, fuck the majority of people there. Maybe it really is too soon. The men there beat women and children, they don’t give a fuck about each other. I really don’t want to watch these girls die in the news; we get enough of that shit coming from Saudi Arabia.

  • pappyvet

    Clear pictures. Should be easy to find these guys. If they do not get arrested they will surely see it as a sign of approval. The next attack could be far worse.

  • Bill_Perdue

    Homophobia and misogyny are related – and so are racism, right wing religion mongering, union busting and warmongering.

    Hillary Clinton is excluded on the basis of supporting all but one of them. And if she still opposes free abortions on demand and without restrictions for women of all ages she’s guilty of holding all those views.

  • Anonymous

    They aren’t raised well anyway. They have problems on a family level and don’t respect their fellow man in their country. They aren’t used to human rights at all.

  • Anonymous

    Starting to lose my patience with them as a whole. Obviously there are innocent people there but if the majority support these thugs…then a part of me does not give a shit about them. Even if they are brainwashed, I don’t see an overnight solution to the whole thing, and most of them would reelect the leader that put them in this spot. There’s a problem here and it’s not just Putin. Even Hitler had millions of followers.

  • Anonymous

    Seems like a lot of Russian women are just used to being beaten by men. It’s sort of the etiquette there.

  • wearing out my F key

    Mayor McCheese calls for sanctions and revokes visas, but chancellor Grimmace remains noncommittal since Russia supplies 2/3rds of Europe’s golden fried potatoes.

  • http://AMERICAblog.com/ John Aravosis

    Positive never motivates. Though too much negative can kill motivation too. But positive sadly inspires no one to action.

  • http://AMERICAblog.com/ John Aravosis

    Was that McDonald’s where that trans woman was attacked a while back? And it was on video.

  • wearing out my F key

    McDonald’s doesn’t have the best record for in forcing the rule of law. The hamburgular has been operating both here at home, and internationally for decades. What chance do they have against Russian tuffs?

  • FLL

    The Putin regime relies on its proxies to terrorize and silence its critics every bit as much as “respectable” governors in the American Deep South during the 1950s and 1960s relied on the Ku Klux Klan to enforce their agenda. No one if fooled. The difference between the two cases is that the Ku-Klux-Klan-dominated Southern states never controlled a national government, let alone a nuclear world power—Putin does. That makes Putin many times more dangerous to the world than governors in the American South during the 50s and 60s.

  • cole3244

    these thugs are similar to the rw here in america, they love pushing around women or the weak but never take on someone who can defend themselves and are more than willing to do so.

  • http://www.rebeccamorn.com/mind BeccaM

    Most excellent question.

    From the photos, it is clear this attack went on for quite some time. Yet the McDonalds restaurant management was unable or unwilling to try to stop it or to intervene to protect its own customers.

  • http://www.rebeccamorn.com/mind BeccaM

    I never said or meant to imply that much of the criticism — especially that coming from the conservative right — leveled against Hillary Clinton wasn’t sexist.

    A TON of it was and still is. I object to that.

    What I took exception with was the sometimes kneejerk labeling of anybody who did not support her candidacy as automatically a misogynist, or worse, a self-hating woman and traitor to her gender.

    We have Gonzales’s remark right there at the top of this sub-thread. Everybody here knew what was being implied. And again, it struck me as incredibly ironic to refer to “the next time a woman runs for President” — and be oblivious to the fact there was a woman who ran in 2012. A Republican nut-case who shouldn’t even be allowed to visit the White House, much less be our President.

    Believe me, I dearly hope to see a Madame President of the United States in my lifetime. But I’m not willing to support just anybody and I’m sure as hell not going to settle for someone of Bachmann’s ilk. Like I said, opposing her candidacy wasn’t automatically misogyny. However, even she has to have known that a portion of the opposition to her candidacy in her own party probably was motivated by it.

  • jared

    You’re right! It’s just too bad they can’t rally around something positive like a music festival. I guess hate wins again :(

  • http://AMERICAblog.com/ John Aravosis

    I appreciate that. :)

  • http://AMERICAblog.com/ John Aravosis

    Again, I appreciate where you’re coming from, but at some point I have to assume my readers aren’t brain-dead. Obviously all Russians didn’t attack these women. Having said that, it’s not exactly the most advanced country on the planet. They like rulers like Putin. (88% of them supported that anti-gay propaganda law.) And considering the nationwide problem with neo-Nazis, that the government isn’t addressing, it would be wrong to make this sounds like it was an isolated incident, which I think it would come across if we tweaked it more.

  • http://AMERICAblog.com/ John Aravosis

    Just tweeted it.

    What is McDonald’s doing to prosecute attack on 2 women in its restaurant? Cried “security!” and none showed. http://americablog.com/2014/03/russian-thugs-attack-2-pussy-riot-women-russian-mcdonalds.html

  • http://AMERICAblog.com/ John Aravosis

    Seriously. I want to know more about why they cried out for ‘security’ and it didn’t show up.

  • jared

    I agree. One possible, albeit very clumsy, way to acknowledge this is to try to differentiate the actions of the gov’t from the actions of the citizens. For example, when America wrongly attacks another country, it would be more correct to say that it was “the American gov’t” rather than “the Americans.”

  • emjayay

    Well, I don’t know where Gonzales went, but I took what he said another way at least at first even if he didn’t mean it.

    As I’m sure everyone here understands, thinking of women as lesser is connected with thinking of gay men as lesser. In really misogynistic cultures of course actually being gay, specifically effeminate or a bottom, is a terrible thing and often grounds for the death penalty (officially or unofficially) mainly because it upsets and challenges the “natural” order of male supremacy. It’s betraying your male sex by acting like a far (and by far I mean in ways we wouldn’t comprehend in 1776) lesser woman. But in those cultures it is often fine and sometimes quite the regular thing for married men to have fun butt fucking other men or boys.

    This has nothing to do with Michele Bachmann being an idiot, but may have a lot to do with criticism of say Hillary Clinton if she runs for Number One Man and Daddy of the Country in 2016. Just like racism, although only sometimes directly referenced, has a lot to do with the supercharged Obama Derangement Syndrome.

  • MichaelS

    Well, now this attack has occurred in an American commercial establishment — or at least an American franchise. Time to start putting the screws to McDonald’s, to DEMAND publicly the arrest of these thugs, whose crime was committed ON THEIR PROPERTY. Anything less makes McDonald’s a co-conspirator in this thuggery, and we should all hold McDonald’s feet to the fire.

  • jared

    Agreed. I really can’t think of a “correct” way to categorize and provide these details without bringing about the unintended consequences. Probably a wash.

    And also please let me reiterate my own comment below. I absolutely do NOT think you were attempting to instigate anything at all. When I reread my comment, I was very concerned that it came off the wrong way.

  • http://AMERICAblog.com/ John Aravosis

    It’s the only way to stop it, give it light. Same reason the women themselves posted the video (it’s THEIR video we’re watching, not the thugs’ video), and they posted their own photos on YouTube. The only way you get people motivated to help, and push a govt to be embarrassed enough to stop the violence, is to keep publicizing the most brutal images you’ve got.

  • http://AMERICAblog.com/ John Aravosis

    Fair point but I thin it’s relevant to the story. Getting attacked by generic thugs means it’s a street crime, and nobody cares if they get pickpocketed by a drunk. If they are however targeted by an organization group inside the country, then it’s relevant that the attackers were Russian. Also, Russians aren’t a persecuted minority, so I think the threshhold is slightly higher for when mentioning the fact that they’re “Russian” is offensive.

  • http://www.rebeccamorn.com/mind BeccaM

    Personally I would have thought the fact ‘Russian’ is being used merely as an adjective to modify the noun ‘thugs’ would be enough differentiation.

    Your point is taken, but you don’t seem to have an alternative description for them. They’re thugs, and they’re Russian citizens, and moreover these criminal thugs seem to be operating with wink-and-a-nod from the Russian authorities. By some indications, these Russian thug gangs appear even to be carrying out Russian policies, what with their hate crimes against Russian LGBTs, women, and minorities.

  • Tom in Lazybrook

    The Poles will fight. I don’t think even Putin is that delusional. Poland has a large, better equipped, better motivated professional army. Russia has crummy gear, conscripts, bad leadership and would have no local support. Its fine for Crimea. But the Poles wouldn’t take it lying down. I think Putin could actually lose a straight up war between the two countries.

    Germany’s response to a military attack on Poland….Merkel might say “we will reduce our natgas imports by 2 Euro next month”.

    Its time that the US simply creates another multilateral organization to deal with in Europe. One that doesn’t have Germany in it.

  • keirmeister

    it looks like these are the same two women who were on Colbert. I thought Pussy Riot generally performed with masks…and these two have been both outspoken and unafraid to show their faces.

    Masha and Nadia are apparently no longer with Pussy Riot (http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/feb/06/nadia-masha-pussy-riot-collective-no-longer), but they are essentially the face of the group – and that’s why they were specifically targeted.

    It’s amazing though…they survived a Siberian prison and now they’re dealing with this new brutality. They are insanely strong women, and it’s infuriating to see what they’re going through – just to have the freedom to speak out.

  • http://www.rebeccamorn.com/mind BeccaM

    In that case, I’ll remove the ‘too’. ;-)

  • jared

    Let me clarify, by no means do I think you are or would ever attempt to incite hate against a group. I was just expressing a concerning thought that popped into my head.

  • jared

    It concerns me that these articles consistently refer to the attackers as Russian. I agree that the characterization is accurate, but this kind of talk can really impact other Russian people who are not behaving this way. It’s no different that qualifying a bunch of attackers by their race or religion. I think most people would be very disturbed by a series of articles starting with “Black men….” or “Jewish groups…” and it just seems that nationality is another extension of that. In fact nationality is even less of an innate trait that race. There are less intelligent people who may read a series of titles like this and make across-the-board judgments. The more I think about it, this is the exact tactic that the right uses to incite hate against a group.

  • http://americablog.com magster

    These women aren’t going to live into 2015 unless they get arrested again.

  • Indigo

    Keep the news coming, we’ve got to get the word out. There’s too many people looking away, pretending this isn’t happening, whistling past the grave yard. That maniac in Moscow is acting out like a Hitler and he’ll have to be stopped before he’s opened camps for the systematic torture of gays and dissidents and annexed Poland.

  • Indigo

    Worst of all, you’re a blogger! Oh, my stars and garters!

  • Indigo

    It is looking that way, including walking into Crimea and settling down.

  • Anonymous

    Tbh I really don’t want to see any more of this, or the gay people being hurt…it’s disgusting…I don’t want to give the thugs attention for their crimes. It seems like it’s mostly boasting.

  • http://AMERICAblog.com/ John Aravosis

    I LIKE the cat videos! That’s part of the reason it’s all so absurd!

  • Tom in Lazybrook

    Just like McDonalds supported brutality against Gays with their support of Putin’s Sochi Games, they’re supporting Putin’s brutality against others as well.

  • Anonymous

    So most Russian men are beating their wives…this is just what goes on behind closed doors out in the open. The girls even look used to it.

  • http://www.rebeccamorn.com/mind BeccaM

    The hatred is being encouraged by the politicians. Hence it is very much about politics, too.

  • Anonymous

    This isn’t about politics but general hatred.

  • http://www.rebeccamorn.com/mind BeccaM

    Most bullies are cowards, hence they prefer to run in packs.

  • Anonymous

    So they only attack women and gays…I guess they’re scared of actually getting hurt?

  • http://www.rebeccamorn.com/mind BeccaM

    Who needs Brownshirts when there are apparently gangs of neo-Nazis available and eager to do what they do best: Terrorize the populace and violently assault anybody who dares to step out of line.

    Putin must be so very pleased with himself.

  • Olterigo

    It’s not red and gold, it’s the Ribbon of St. George http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ribbon_of_Saint_George
    The Kremlin has successfully turned it into a sign of pro-government sentiments in 2005 or 2006, where they were spreading it for the civilians to wear to commemorate the victory in WW2.

  • http://www.rebeccamorn.com/mind BeccaM

    I hate cat videos too. Then again, I don’t much like cats either, probably in large part because I’m very allergic to most of them. And the ones I’m not allergic to, the bald ones, look like monsters.

  • http://www.rebeccamorn.com/mind BeccaM

    There are those of us women who do not equate opposing a particular female candidate for elected office with misogyny.

    And it’s bothered the hell out of me how we as a country were falling headlong into the practice of nepotistic dynasties. First, we get Dubya only because his daddy was President once, and we nearly ended up with his brother. Then we nearly ended up with Hillary only because her husband used to be President — and not because her policies were any more in keeping with populist traditional Democratic party ideals. She’s yet another free trade agreement-obsessed neo-liberal through and through, and the entire reason she lost the nomination wasn’t misogyny, but because Obama ran well to the left of her in his campaign rhetoric — and populist progressivism is something the American people crave deeply these days. (And sadly, both parties seem to agree on denying this to us.)

    I personally will admit to deep disappointment in Obama and unhappiness in my own support for him. But that doesn’t make me a racist any more than not favoring Hillary Clinton above all other candidates — including eminently qualified progressive/liberal women — makes me a misogynist.

    Oh, and by the way, a woman DID just run for President just a couple years ago. Her name was Michelle Bachmann. Ring a bell? Was opposing her equal to being a misogynist? Or was it simply knowing she was manifestly unfit for high elected office?

  • Ryan

    At around 1:58 in the video when the kid turns around he’s wearing a red and gold ribbon on his jacket. I’ve seen photos of the “local militia” people in Crimea wearing this same ribbon. What does it signify? Is this kid just showing his support for the invasion of Ukraine?

  • Ninong

    Putin’s Russia is becoming a lot like Hitler’s Germany in the late 1930’s.

  • http://AMERICAblog.com/ John Aravosis

    I’m not sure if that was a subtle jab at the fact that I switched my allegiance from Hillary to Obama during the primaries. If so, I like to think misogyny is also treating a woman who runs for president more nicely than I’d treat a man. I don’t buy that women are delicate wallflowers who can’t handle the same bruising we give men who run for office. I was a branded a racist when I spent two years beating up Obama in order to push him to keep his gay rights promises. Then I became a bisexual hater when I wrote a title with a bi pun, even though Jon Stewart made the same joke last week. And I hate trans people because I’m the wrong gender, race and sexual orientation. And I hate cats because cat videos are mean.

    If I didn’t care about women’s rights, I wouldn’t have posted this in the first place. :)

  • Gonzales 23

    Homophobia and misogyny=the same thing. Please remember that the next time a woman runs for President. Thank you.

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