Do these heels make me look Hitler?

I don’t invoke nazi analogies easily, but this is vomit-inducing.

It’s from Russian state media outlet, RT (aka Russia Today). And it’s an article demonstrating how happy and perky the Russian occupation of Ukraine really is.

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It’s such a fun invasion, pretty soon everyone will want one!

Oh, and do check out the last pic – the one in which the Russian official news organ is venerating Lenin.


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And finally, we have the official Russian news organ venerating Lenin.

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  • Alex

    Too bad, because they do not. As for the removal of the statues of Lenin – fine, but tell me first which statutes are going to be erected instead? Also – on the topic of statutes – in the Western Ukraine several non-Lenin statutes were demolished, e.g. a statute to Kutuzov (look him up). If it were not for Kutuzov, modern Ukraine would have spoken French now…

  • Ford Prefect

    How about the Lask base in central Poland? You’re attempting a “gotcha” with “NATO base,” but the baltic states’ pseudo-membership is considered “virtual NATO,” since they are “partners,” not actual allies. So all of Poland’s bases are “virtual NATO bases.” The US is currently moving additional air force assets to Poland and Lithuanian bases, so the basing rights and military cooperation are very much real.

    Go back to trolling central and come up with something better. Jeebus, why bother wasting our time with this bullshit in the first place?

  • Gizmo

    “Those Nazis were trained and outfitted by the US taxpayer on NATO bases in Poland. ”
    ooops… which NATO base in Poland do you exactly mean? Name any NATO base in Poland, not necessary the one where the Nazi protestors were trained in.

  • phylius1988

    No, a war against the dictator of Iraq is not the same as a war against the people of Ukraine.

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  • http://www.americablog.com/ Naja pallida

    Most Americans don’t have enough knowledge to form a coherent opinion on the matter, beyond “Russia, bad.” And that’s all they need.

  • PeteWa

    seems more Kali mid period to me… lol

  • http://www.rebeccamorn.com/mind BeccaM

    My spiritual teacher used to tell us students that humanity was moving into the Sai Yuga.

    I have my doubts. Or at least I think he was premature in the assessment.

  • PeteWa

    it seems to be a problem with a very solid majority of citizens.
    half the time I wonder if we are truly living in the Kali Yuga, the age of the one legged bull.

  • TruthNotReligion

    Their religious loyalty is to a particularly retarded version of religion, too. But obviously, the more religious you are, the more retarded you are, and the less religious you are, the more likely you are to having a functioning frontal lobe and so the less likely you are to support retarded ways of thinking: religion and totalitarianism.

  • lynchie

    I agree. I think a lot of Americans are tired of constant war and the draining of our treasury. But don’t count Fox out in ramping up the bullshit with the anti Russia, Regan strong/Obama pussy outrage. But no one on the right offers other real options. Just we aren’t doing enough. I will say watching and listening to Kerry is like watching paint dry.

  • http://www.rebeccamorn.com/mind BeccaM

    Hell, we have ample evidence most don’t even remember recent history. For a while, I thought it was a condition limited to Republican conservatives, but clearly I was mistaken.

  • 2karmanot

    That first line is brilliant.

  • 2karmanot

    “a) most Americans agree with our warmongering politicians” I’m not so sure about that.

  • FLL

    Yes.

  • http://americancannibal.org/ American Cannibal

    Like the American Diplomats say, Fuck the EU.

  • Alex

    Are you sure those citations belong to Lenin?

  • PeteWa

    yeah, that was rather laughable… tone deaf?
    nah, he knows the American public will not do the very simple math.

  • PeteWa

    well, of course there are differences between the two “enemies”, one was invaded because of disagreement with a trade arrangement, and the other was invaded because of daddy issues.

  • lynchie

    Saw a clip of John Kerry berating Putin for “invading a sovereign nation, blah, blah, blah”. Rewind to Bush doing the same thing to Iraq and Afghanistan. I am not for Russia’s move here just saying that we don’t have a leg to stand on by claiming our indignation at Putin’s move. When Russia moved in to Afghanistan we boycotted the Olympics, then Regan was elected and grew the defict almost 200% in a defense build up. But basically we did nothing. Lindsey Graham was all flustered this weekend, twisting his thong and screaming up Obama being weak, Palin claims she was able to predict this and meanwhile little is heard from any other country. Let NATO do the heavy lifting, they are the most threatened, they have a stake in this and let them spend their money with troops, aid and outrage.

  • Anonymous

    Republicans dried up our defense funding on useless “wars” in the Middle East that were supposedly in response to “terrorism.” Since these economic endeavors were such failures, they now need to blame Dems for our “wars.” A drone strike in Libya that lasted a few hours, and killed a murderer, is apparently much less effective and frugal than our 12-year war over nothing. Just repeat after me – Benghazi.

  • Anonymous

    You know what they should really be posting is that picture of the wounded kids. What kind of country is bashing the heads of people under 18 for their “activism”? That, if nothing else, should tell you how screwed up things are there. There are certain signs that a government isn’t civilized…this is a big one.

  • FLL

    Yes, my comment is directed at Ukrainians. John is being informative by including that nasty photo of the Lenin statue.

  • Anonymous

    He only posted them to make a point about Russian media supporting Lenin. If you look at surveys, a lot of Russians still support Stalin & Lenin (mostly the older generation though). We need to remember the mindset of people in this country.

    Also, I think studying Stalin & Lenin gives one an insight into why Russians are so opposed to democracy. Unfortunately it is ingrained in their culture.

  • Anonymous

    The bad thing is that we are now beginning to feel helpless as nations and take sides. Our politicians (of the US, Russia, and Ukraine) now speak for us, even though most people disagree with them all. It’s clear Russian and US leaders have betrayed the peaceful goals of people supporting these protests. The Ukrainians’ massive peaceful protests have gone unnoticed since the Neo-Nazis timed their violent takeover with the Olympics. The US and Russia are only reporting what they want us to hear. They claim that Neo Nazis and other extremists are in control for their own gain. Just like the picture John posted, the pro-Russians have been put into center frame. They’re pathetic in number and if they were so important to Russians, why would riot police have shot at them?

    I’m with you. I’m tired of hearing from people who take the US news at gospel. They aren’t reporting the facts. We forget that there are actual investments in wars as well as influencing the gov’ts of other countries. The US has certain interests that do not coincide with what the people want. So does Russia.

  • FLL

    John, the last photo in your post, the one of Lenin’s statue, is awful. From among Lenin’s nasty quotes, here are the worst of the worst:

    “He who now talks about the ‘freedom of the press’ goes backward, and halts our headlong course towards Socialism.”

    “Free speech is a bourgeois prejudice.”

    “Freedom of speech?! We are not going to commit suicide.”

    Sounds like the heartfelt sentiments of a few of the Putin supporters on this blog. Will you please remove those statues of Lenin? Don’t wait. Do it now. They have no place in the public places of a free nation.

  • Anonymous

    Ok, and what does “our” agenda have to do with the tens of thousands of Ukranians marching for democracy? So because the minority are Neo-Nazi extremists (and obviously paid shills), that invalidates what the majority of protesters fought for?
    You seem to think that because the US is fighting for its own economic interests: a) most Americans agree with our warmongering politicians, b) Russia is somehow better and “doing the right thing.” Neither are true. Politicians and fascists make up the minority of people involved in these conflicts. They just have the majority of the influence, and unfortunately now speak for Russia, the US, and Ukraine as a whole.

  • FLL

    I’ll only start with the most obvious example of the demonization of ethnic Ukranians (from Retired Catholic): “Western Ukrainians have a history with the Nazis going all the way back to the 1930’s.”

    Retired Catholic needs some information about Ukraine during the 1930s because the Russians also have a history with Ukraine going back to the 1930s. Stalin’s government perpetrated the Holomodor, the mass murder by starvation of at least 4 million Ukranians during the early 1930s. Putin fanboys don’t want to admit that because it makes Russian dictators look bad, and they wouldn’t want to do that, would they? Some Putin fans on this blog imply that Ukrainians, by virtue of their ethnic descent, deserved the mass murder of 4 million. If they don’t have the human decency to avoid spitting on the graves of 4 million people who were murdered at the whim of some asswipe Soviet dictator, then they need to crawl back underneath their flat rock. Yanukovych, Putin’s ally, followed that tradition when he recently killed 80 protestors by having his police forces open fire on them.

    Putin has acted against the interest of Russia—he has only acted in his own personal interest by launching a military invasion of Crimea. That will wind up being a disappointment for you, Putin fans, because the civilized world will urge Ukraine to join NATO. Russian citizens will inevitably become disenchanted with Putin. It is widely known that Putin has been obsessed with Ukraine’s Orange Revolution, fearing that it could happen in Moscow. It will eventually, and you will lose, Putin fanboys. History is not on your side.

  • Olterigo

    Reform and Orthodox rabbis in Ukraine (outside of pro-Kremlin Chabad) oppose Russian intervention.
    http://forward.com/articles/193695/ukraine-jews-call-on-russia-to-end-invasion/

  • Retired Catholic

    Western Ukrainians have a history with the Nazis going all the way back to the 1930’s. The Ukraine was never really denazified after WWII. I boycotted watching the Olympics over the LGBT issues, so I have no truck with their domestic policies. Using the word Nazi to describe the Russians is bogus, seeing has how they lost nearly 30 million people to those bastards in WWII. The fact remains that we and our EU cohorts are primarily responsible for the current turmoil in the Ukraine. The protests turned violent due to the activities of self described neo nazis in the Ukraine, and there is a great deal of evidence that a lot of the killing of peaceful protesters, Russian personnel and others was done by these Ukrainian Fascists-a campaign financed with money from the West.

    Russian diplomatic efforts to partner up with “The West” to bail the Ukraine out of its current difficulties were rebuffed. The Neocons want to make the Ukraine part of NATO, a move that the Russians will simply not permit in a country on their border. The original Ukrainian protests were against their own corrupt and incompetent kleptocracy, we foolishly tried to exploit the situation when we were really in no position to control events at all. The major members of the EU and the US are simply out to strip mine the Ukrainian economy through the good offices of of the IMF and the World Bank. A look at what was being offered by “our” side and what was being offered to the Ukraine by the Russians is most instructive in understanding the roots of what is going on.

    Putin has been outmaneuvering both the Bush and Obama administrations with a facility that we should find quite disturbing. The fact is the Russians are issuing Russian passports to virtually anyone in the Ukraine who wants to get out of Dodge, including members of the Ukrainian army and police.This includes people who are not ethnically Russian. The Commander of the Ukranian Navy has defected to the Russians, but has since been dismissed by the new government. Various localities throughout the Ukraine have disassociated themselves from the new central government and are making overtures to the Russians. Interestingly, the Neo Nazi parties in the Ukraine are now threatening the stability of the newly formed present government. Don’t confuse us with Mother Theresa here.

  • Anonymous

    I think “Retired Catholic” is especially shortsighted. I don’t think invading is the best option for the US. However, that does not mean I in any way condone or support what Russia is doing. Supporting a leader whose actions are corrupt and seem like an extension of the USSR is incredibly naive indeed.

  • Tom in Lazybrook

    So then why is Ukraine not as wealthy as Poland, that has had to deal with the EU and the IMF? What paranoid fantasy do you guys think didn’t apply to Poland that DOES apply to Ukraine. I’m no Conservative, and Wall Street has issues, but some of you Russophiles/Castrophiles are really naive. The people of the Ukraine know exactly what their advancement path is….its the EU, transparency, tolerance, and democracy……Not aligning themselves with racists, homophobes, thieves and violent fools. Take away oil and natural gas and no entity using the Russian/Venezuelan model has any economy to speak of.

  • Ford Prefect

    While it’s fairly accurate to call the Russian establishment plutocratic, even fascistic, the people wearing actual swastikas are a part of the new government resulting from the putsch. Also too Svoboda, whose ancestors fought along side the Nazis in WW2 and participated in the Holocaust. These ultra-nationalists now control ALL of Ukraine’s various security agencies. Those Nazis were trained and outfitted by the US taxpayer on NATO bases in Poland.

    That aside, here’s the Guardian on why the coup has put in place a government that cannot survive politically, given what they intend to do to the Little People:

    … this does not mean the start of systematic democratic change, or that the new government is in any way going to challenge the root of pervasive corruption in Ukraine: poverty and inequality. Moreover, it is likely only to aggravate these problems, putting the burden of the economic crisis on the shoulders of Ukraine’s poor, not on the rich Ukrainian oligarchs.The socioeconomic demands of the Maidan movement have been replaced with the neoliberal agenda of the new government.

    The cabinet, approved on Thursday, consists mainly of neoliberals and nationalists. Its official programme of action presented to parliament declares the need for “unpopular decisions” on prices and tariffs and its readiness to fulfill all the conditions of the loan from the International Monetary Fund.

    The IMF’s requirements to freeze wages and hike gas prices was one of the reasons why the former government suspended negotiations on an EU association agreement. No wonder so many people are calling the new administration the “government of suicides”. It is not hard to forecast mass disappointment with these antisocial policies and a collapse of the currency, further impoverishing ordinary Ukrainians.

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/feb/28/ukraine-genuine-revolution-tackle-corruption

    So for all the hyperbole, all the poor people of Ukraine have to look forward to is misery. Whether their pain comes from the boot of the Russian army, or our vaunted banksters, they are going to get stomped either way.

  • http://AMERICAblog.com/ John Aravosis

    Yeah perhaps they could go to Russia where neo-Nazi gans proliferate all over the country with the formerly tacit, and now public, embrace of the Putin government. I’m sure that would end well for them.

  • http://AMERICAblog.com/ John Aravosis

    I was just gonna say, the one fact we know is that the Russians are Nazis. The only question remaining is who exactly is in control of the Ukraine govt, and who controls the protesters. But the debate is over as to what kind of human beings control the Russian govt. The same inhuman people who ran the Soviet Union.

  • Tom in Lazybrook

    The Neo-Nazis are the Russians. They have invaded Crimea. They are engaging in a state sponsored/tolerated pogrom against its LGBT population and against racial minorities. They are hideously corrupt and undemocratic. While there are some anti-freedom factions in Ukraine, those know that their choice of the EU means that they’ll have to put up with Gay people and racial minorities.
    Russia is in total an complete abrogation of every single agreement they have ever signed.

  • Retired Catholic

    Let’s get who’s who straight. The Russian Soldiers here are not the Fascists. Read something besides the American press over that last couple of months. Initially peaceful protests by both Ukrainian and Russian citizens of Kiev were hijacked by three neo-nazi groups of the Ukrainian far right One of these partis bears the name of Stefan Bandera, who, depending on your view point is a famous or infamous WW!! partisan leader in the Ukraine, noted mostly for killing jews and collaborating with the SS and the Wehrmacht. Russian troops are in the Crimea because the have a status of forces agreement that allows them to legally be in the Crimea(a gift of traditionally Russian territory to the Ukraine from Kruschev) and other areas of the Ukraine. They are not only protecting Russian speaking people, but have a perfectly legitimate military reason for securing their naval base in Sebastapol.

    The neo nazi Ukranians have been on the German, French, British, but primarily American pay pad from the beginning. Sooner or later I hope enough people will trip to the fact that we invaded Iraq with unalloyed lies as a justification, bungled what should have been a short expedition into Afghanistan, initially to get the 9/11 perpetrators, into the longest war in our history(but then we join Alexander the Great, Ghengis Khan, the Tzars, the British and the Soviet Union in making the same mistake of thinking you could subdue these primitive, illiterate tribesmen and get away with it while expanding empires in the process). We have also destabilized Lybia(granted Qadafi was a jerk), Syria(led by a series of jerks who exhausted the country’s water resources, the real cause of the current internal strife) and Lebanon, to no good purpose. We are currently behind efforts to destabilize the democratically and majoritarian elected government in Venezuela, ostensibly for reasons that also apply in spades to Colombia(who, however, remains our bosom, ball playing buddy), all the while enjoying seriously deteriorated relations with most of the rest of Latin America.

    The fact that we are a major player in the current Ukranian drama should come as no surprise, but then the American public frequently gets surprised and blind sided by blow back because we have a compliant, often incompetent and frequently lazy media that fails to keep us properly posted, an abyssally deep ignorance of world and even our own history and largely believe OUR propaganda about the Shining City on the Hill. Oh, and one last note. I was in Naval Intelligence in what we refer to as the Viet Nam era. Don’t get started on that self inflicted disaster. I watched it unfold from the beginning. Time also forbids any comments about Guatemala, El Salvador, Nicaragua, Chile and Argentina. This does not excuse the execrable behavior of the Soviet Union, Maoist China or Idi Amin, for that matter. Then they don’t justify our toe dipping into the waters of barbarity, either.

  • Tom in Lazybrook

    I think that the world response to Russia should be as follows.
    1) Start treating Russia like Apartheid South Africa. Its not like Russia is in compliance with any of its agreements. Kick em out of the Council of Europe, OSCE, the G8, and suspend treating them as if they are a member of the WTO. Expel them from intra-European organizations such as UEFA and Eurovision. Announce that in the event that FIFA will not move the 2018 World Cup, that the US, Canada, and Europe will hold a World Football Championship somewhere civilized at the same time as the FIFA World Cup. The Paralymics should be postponed, as it is now in a war zone.
    2) An immediate asset freeze on Russian assets held in the west. That would include assets of Russian oligarchs tied to the Putin regime.
    3) An announcement that any aircraft or ship touching Russian occupied Ukraine will not be accepted in any Western airport or port.
    4) Encourage the Turks to cut of the Bosporus to Russian military traffic, thus removing the strategic importance of Crimea. Suggest the Turks do so in order to protect the interests of the Turkish Tatar minority in Crimea (who overwhelmingly support Ukraine).
    5) Announce that the EU will not accept any Russian natural gas sent through occupied Ukraine unless the Kiev government approves.
    6) Shut the borders between Poland, Lithuania and Kaliningrad. Make Russia support the enclave via sea only
    7) Have the Kiev government announce that all debts held by Ukrainians to Russian banks or governmental agencies are null and void.
    8) Announce the building of 3 more LNG terminals to go along with the new Polish one. The implications to Russia will be obvious.
    9) Institute a travel and visa ban on supporters of Russia’s government. Round up those supporters in the West and deport them.
    10) Cut off all diplomatic relations.
    11) Provide lethal aid to the Ukrainian military.
    Russia isn’t going to help us in Iran or Syria.

  • wearing out my F key

    I read that U.S. officials have conceded that Russian troops are only taking defensive positions, while the Crimean parliament work on a referendum for succession, which should pass easily. If their only job is watching out for the Ukrainian army, I imagine it is a pretty easy gig. The Ukraine army is no match for the Russians to begin with, and I doubt the Ukraine soldiers are too crazy about taking marching orders from a government who just took power a few days ago.

    There isn’t going to be any combat. Might as well flirt with the pretty girls and enjoy the win.

    http://news.antiwar.com/2014/03/01/ukraine-threatens-war-over-crimea-but-options-are-limited/

  • 2karmanot

    We can count our blessings that Kerry never made it to the Presidency.

  • Olterigo

    Thank you.

  • Anonymous

    I know this is Buzzfeed and it’s informal and likely has some inaccuracies, but they’re independent journalists and it’s worth checking out if you want a timeline of the conflict.

    http://www.buzzfeed.com/miriamberger/a-35-step-guide-to-understanding-why-russia-decided-to-follo

  • 2karmanot

    Good lord, even the babies are fascists.

  • Anonymous

    Poor Russians, they are a minority there…wah. So when does the genocide of ethnic Ukrainians by “minority” Russians start? The wingnut “majority is the minority” victim brigade is already starting. War is imminent.

  • Anonymous

    Daily Mail. They are notorious for a right-wing slant and unfortunately a very popular, often cited paper for wingnuts here.

  • Anonymous

    This propaganda is extremely stupid. Most people are not this stupid, as bad as they seem.
    The only logical conclusion is that poeple believe this stupidity because they WANT to. And that’s a really scary thought.

  • Olterigo

    I’m sorry I am drawing a blank – what is “DM”?

  • Anonymous

    And the DM commenters are gibbering out the same “facts,” literally exactly as you worded them. It’s pathetic. Russians are a de-facto minority? Give me a break.

  • Anonymous

    The conservatives (read: wingnuts) on the Daily Mail are already blabbing about how ALL protesters are NeoNazis, so I know something’s up. These Neo-Nazis are minority shills that hijacked a majority, peaceful movement. Russia will claim to acknowledge protesters as a whole, but will actually side with extremists.

  • Olterigo

    RT is right now just repeating what in Putin’s years most of Russian TV channels have been telling Russian viewers: neo-Nazis are in power in the former (pro-Western) republics of the USSR, Russians are being oppressed and marginalized everywhere (despite the fact that at least 20 people who dies in Independence Square for the anti-regime side were Russian)… It’s the same thing they did 4 years ago with Southern Ossetia. But now they’re trying to package it for foreign consumption.

  • Anonymous

    WW2 all over again. Many ignorant Russians still hate Jews and ethnic minorities and they will show us that. Americans raised in our own pro-Christian, pro-nationalist bubble will support them.

  • Anonymous

    Hopefully the US stays out, but given that it’s a very uneven match between Russia & Ukraine, we may try to step in as usual to curb them. Very scary when you think about how far other countries have surpassed us these days. We may not be a significant world power anymore. We will have to abandon the fighting like we did with Syrians. I just wonder if we will learn that the hard or the easy way.

  • Anonymous

    They’re about to remember, thanks to their macho posturing. These silly aggressive comments will soon turn to them riding a tank into the real deal.

  • Olterigo

    In Ukraine, it won’t be deaths. It will be the death of effective diplomacy for a generation.

  • Anonymous

    Who paid these shills? I also notice that the DM prominently posted an article about people taking “selfies with soldiers.” My first thought was that this has to be some kind of propaganda. RT is also dismissing protesters as paid, which is ironically what they themselves are doing with their “journalists.” It’s such a mess. To top it all off, Neo Nazis hijacked the protest and now pro-Russians are claiming that the entire thing was a sham. Even though hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians demonstrated against the gov’t with little fanfare a few months ago.

    But yeah, I know most people aren’t smart enough to follow along consistently. And that’s a darn shame, especially as they are trying to stir up a war. God help us.

  • Badgerite

    “The locals”. That’s one guy! An old guy. He probably knew Lenin personally.
    Interesting, they say nothing of the 70 some people killed in Kiev by snipers.

  • Olterigo

    Ahhh, the pro-Kremlin Chabad rabbi in Kiev. Here’s an excerpt fro Haaretz:

    “Putin has had Jewish partners in this, chiefly the Chabad-Lubavitch movement which has been given by the Kremlin effective control of Jewish communal matters in Russia. In return, Chabad rabbis routinely extol Putin and his vigilance against anti-Semitism while questioning the situation over the border.”

    “This attitude has caused much dismay among Ukrainian Jewish leaders who feel their community’s safety is being used as a political football between Moscow and Kiev. While this rarely comes out in the open, Rabbi Yaakov Bleich, the veteran chief rabbi of Kiev responded angrily to a statement of support for the Jews of Ukraine by Rabbi Berel Lazar, Chabad’s chief rabbi of Russia, regarded by many as “Putin’s rabbi” saying “plenty of anti-Semites in Russia can use the help of Berel Lazar before he worries about anti-Semitism in Ukraine.””

    http://www.haaretz.com/jewish-world/jewish-world-news/.premium-1.576372

  • http://www.americablog.com/ Naja pallida

    I don’t know about that faction on the left, but I do know Bill Kristol is creaming in his pants with glee right about now.

  • dula

    another generation who forgot what war really is

  • cole3244

    the lull before the storm and there will be a storm of what consequence no one knows.

  • Outspoken1

    ‘Silly people’ became Nazis.

  • http://liberawheeler.blogspot.com Elijah Shalis

    The NeoNazis make up 6% of the people in Western Ukraine. Don’t believe the Russian State Media or InfoWars.

  • http://www.rebeccamorn.com/mind BeccaM

    Sure, mostly the Republicans, led by Darth Cheney and his mini-Me, President Oedipus.

    But as I recall, in 2002, the Democrats had a one vote majority (along with Jeffords) in the Senate. There is no question they could have filibustered the AUMF. And the Byrd, Levin, and Durbin amendments, all of which would have limited the scope and duration of the AUMF were defeated, in every case with solid GOP and heavy Dem support.

    This isn’t a “Dems == GOP” statement. It’s how 40% of the Dems in the House and close to 60% in the Senate were on-board with the open-ended war declaration, subject to Bush’s inevitable decision to pull the trigger whenever he felt like doing so.

  • Thom Allen

    The question is: does the fun stop with Crimea? Putin was pissed when his vassal lost the Ukraine to the opposition. How dare they reject Mother(fucker) Russia and want to do things like join the EU? Even if Putin is able to restore his Ukranian-raping stooge Yanukovych to power, he’s going to have to prop him up with either troops in Ukraine or at its borders. In any event, Ukraine is either going to become a part of Russia or be totally controlled by it. I don’t think anything will put the Nightmare Bear back in the cage. He and his buddies are having too much fun having tea with the Crimeans.

  • Hetty

    John, you should be ashamed of yourself. Can’t you see the difference between silly people and neonazi’s?

    “Ukrainian Rabbi Moshe Reuven Azman, called on Kiev’s Jews to leave
    the city and even the country if possible, fearing that the city’s Jews
    will be victimized in the chaos, Israeli daily Maariv reported Friday.

    “I told my congregation to leave the city center or the city all
    together and if possible the country too,” Rabbi Azman told Maariv. “I
    don’t want to tempt fate,” he added, “but there are constant warnings
    concerning intentions to attack Jewish institutions.”

    According to the paper’s report Azman closed the Jewish community’s
    schools but still holds three daily prayers. He said the Israeli embassy
    told members of the Jewish community to avoid leaving their homes.”

  • Indigo

    Yes, but now the shoe is on the other foot. That changes everything in grassroots Amerika. But you knew that.

  • Indigo

    There’s no sense expecting them to learn from their Afghan experience, we haven’t.

  • http://AMERICAblog.com/ John Aravosis

    And more importantly, we can thank for the Republicans for that one. I was just telling a Republican last night that if he’s upset the US is doing more on Ukraine, he has his own party to blame. I don’t plan on spending another trillion dollars on another war just yet

  • goulo

    Indeed, but it seems rather unlikely that the invasion is all over and resolved already. We’ll see what happens.

  • ferd

    Oh, and lol on “…make me look Hitler.”

  • ferd

    Mobsters, warmongers, rent seekers, monopolists: These folks all shrink the pie, while taking bigger pieces for themselves.

  • http://www.rebeccamorn.com/mind BeccaM

    Your point is taken, but it’s cringe-inducing to see Sec’y of State John Kerry on Sunday morning TV saying “You just don’t in the 21st century behave in 19th century fashion by invading another country on completely trumped up pretext.”

    Especially considering former-Senator Kerry voted for the Iraq war authorization.

  • http://musephotos.wordpress.com/ GarySFBCN

    The Iraq war happened because Saddam tried to kill W’s daddy, and, the oil.

    But the result was 1 million dead. I can’t see any deaths in Ukraine, especially if they hand-over Crimea.

  • http://AMERICAblog.com/ John Aravosis

    I’m no fan of the Iraq invasion, but I think taking on Saddam Hussein is a tad different than invading Ukraine because you don’t like the country signing a trade agreement with the EU, and are more interested in reforming the Soviet Union.

    Not trying to take it out on you, but I get annoyed sometimes at a certain faction of the left that runs to create equivalences when horrific events like this happen. Their first instinct is to point fingers back at us. I’m not sure today is the right day to be arguing that we’re as bad as they are.

  • PeteWa

    it does look a lot less shocking and awful than when the US invaded Iraq.

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