Global-warming-truthers, Donald Trump, Fox use record cold to “disprove” climate change

Global-warming-truthers are back to using the cold weather to “prove” that global warming isn’t real.

Predictably, most of them are on Fox News.  Jon Stewart dove into the overall topic of using cold weather to “disprove” global warming last night on the Daily Show.

Fox idiot: “I think these scientists are laughing from their lavish laboratories and their vacations up at the arctic, and their nice boats that are well-equipped.”

Then Fox called in the big guns – Donald Trump.

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We’ve written before about the logical fallacy that cold weather proves that global warming isn’t real.  The fallacy is based on a basic confusion between the words “weather” and “climate.”  With weather being what happens on any individual day, and climate being long-term trends and averages.

Chris had posted a great video a while back showing the difference between the two by looking at a man walking his dog. The man’s path is climate, the dog’s path is weather.  But really, “climate” is the average path over time.  Meaning, the overall direction of the man and the dog is from bottom left to top right. As time goes on, you can pretty much bet that the man and the dog will end up even further up and to the right.

Here’s an image from that video, the full video is at the bottom of this article:

clmate-vs-weather

But the dog’s path at any one moment is up, down, left, or right.  If you look overall, at the climate, you’d say the man and dog are clearly going up and to the right.  But if you look at the dog at any one time, you might say, “that’s not true, their path is down!” And ten seconds later you’d say, “that’s not true, their path is up!”

Donald Trump and Fox are the dog looking down.  They pick a moment in time when the weather is cold and claim that this proves that the overall trend, over decades, is not towards warming. It’s an unscientific. and factually wrong, analysis, but it appeals to people with less education and overall intelligence, and/or people who have no interest in facts that contradict their worldview – i.e., the extreme far-right base that’s taken over the Republican party.

I’ll post the video below.

This gives you a pretty good indication as to why the less education people get, the more they tend to vote for Republican.

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One explanation might be that the more education you have, the less likely you are to believe a blatant lie.

As I’ve noted before, the Republicans found out long ago that voters don’t tend to like their agenda, so they lie about it.  Whether it’s opposing health care reform because it has “death panels” and covers the cost of beheadings (it doesn’t), or claiming global warming doesn’t exist because it got cold in north Georgia.  The truth doesn’t conform with the GOP agenda, so they lie.  And guess who’s more likely to believe a lie, especially one about science – people who haven’t studied as much science.


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Here’s the climate vs weather video:

And here’s Jon Stewart:


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  • Anarchy For All

    Global warming is not a mystery. However, how Donald “Trollip” Trump keeps that muskrat on top of his noggin in place is at this time still unknown.

  • Josh

    I concur the main issue here is that most people are complete simpletons – it would take an uneducated fool with impaired comprehension skills to dismiss the overwhelming scientific fact that we are living in an inter-glacial period that is in it’s final stages (our current inter-glacial period has lasted approximately 12,500 yrs) – and instead spend their time quibbling over whether they’ve “dumbed down” the idea of “trend vs. variation” (for Joe & Jane six pack) & cheering for their side of a broken two-party system….

  • DNPKIM

    John, as soon as you start calling people names you lose all credibilitty.

  • lilyannerose

    I suggest that they check out the weather in Australia.

  • jfreed27

    The media delight following the “ship in the ice” tells you everything you need to know about denial. Literally dozens of sites are dancing for joy. The Koch roaches are delirious.

    This is a juicy cherry to be picked, of course. Who would have expected otherwise?

    Look at the NASA temperature anomaly map. It records global temperatures.

    http://svs.gsfc.nasa.gov/vis/a000000/a004000/a004030/

    If you look carefully at this world map you can find a “colder” region (in blue). It’s a tiny little portion amongst the “hotter”red regions. Someone found one of the very rare blue areas (Antarctica) and the Priests of Drivel are howling their victory.

    Did anyone mention that Australia had the hottest year on record? Pretty extreme, as predicted.

    Denial kills. The Koch Bros. and Friends who have pumped hundreds of million into anti-science distraction/delay has conservatives tied up into knots.

    Example: a typical page from the anti-science denier playbook goes like this, given the following hypothetical.

    Let’s say scientists predict that 100 year floods will occur five times more often, every 20 years. So, for 19 “normal” years (on average) deniers would crow and hoot, “so where’s your climate change?’ Then on the 20th year (on average), after a massive record breaking flood, their standard meme will be “one cannot say with certainty that THIS flood was the result of climate change; we had a big flood in ____, too”

    Can’t lose, right? If climate had actually changed as above, deniers would simply ignore the fact that the odds (and the frequency and the cost to life and property) of destructive floods have increased fivefold.

    H0w do they sleep at nigh? Seriously.

  • Duck

    In Antarctica, one of the things that is being studied, is the apparent difference in sea ice extent on different sides of the continent – IIRC the western side of the continent is experiencing increased extent of sea ice with the opposite in the eastern region of the continent. Some of this change was attributed to a change in wind patterns causing the glaciers to move faster down to the sea. I know that it (and the changes ongoing regarding sea ice thickness and extent in the Arctic, as well as the effects on glaciers in Greenland and other places) is an area of ongoing and very active scientific study.

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    You must be tenured.

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    Not that amazing really, de Tocqueville got our number a long time ago.

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    It’s also matter of personality disorder. Trumpie is like a brat that take a dump in the kiddie pool and enjoys the commotion of evacuation.

  • Cold_in_Chi

    Donald Trump is not a dumb guy. I suspect that he knows that record cold does not disprove global climate change. He also knows that if he repeatedly goes on national television and tells lies that support his own political agenda, those who are less smart and less well educated will believe him. I think the term for this is avarice.

  • leftcoaster

    It figures. Fox features a guy that is full of hot air to be their expert on global warming.

  • guestposter

    theres also the big difference between “local” and “global.”

  • olandp

    Funny, we heard nothing from these idiots when we have record heat during the summer, not to mention record drought, record flooding, record storms. It is only about the record cold. How about record stupidity?

  • http://firefeeder.blogspot.com/ Stratplayer

    Just think of the myriad ways in which your life is controlled and dominated by the pointy-heads.

  • bptr

    Global Warming has nothing to do with differentiating short-term temperature directions versus overall temperature trend – despite Chris’ long-winded explanation of a simple concept.. “Global Warming” refers to the overall average temperature of the world going up – as measured by the ocean’s temperatures. This causes (with just a few degrees rise) major weather pattern changes and ERRATIC weather which includes more major storms in more unusual places and COLDER weather n some areas and warmer weather in other areas.

    Only a complete Simpleton (a typical “Conservative”) would interpret Global Warming as simply warmer weather all the time.

    Besides all this, there is NO DISPUTE ABOUT GLOBAL WARMING!!! Global Warming is a measurable fact !!
    The dispute is weather the global warming is due to man-made activity such as increased carbon dioxide emissions over decades.

    It is amazing how dumb people in this country are.

  • http://heimaey.us/ heimaey

    Thanks. The overall trend is bad – it’s hard to point to one single event. The climate is changing but it’s just cold out right now.

  • woodroad34

    The confusion (if it can be called that) also comes from the term “global warming”, which Republicans (and my very educated Republican acquaintance) will point to the East Coast and say, “See? No warming here! You alarmist liberals!” It’s so convenient to go for the byte and not the thought. I have to laugh at how Liberals are always painted as lazy hippies without a thought in their head except for love, sex, and welfare–while on the Wonderland side we have lazy corporatists who don’t have a thought in their head except for hate, rape, and….and…OMG! corporate welfare!

  • AD

    I want to hit my face against my desk so hard.. ..how stupid and ignorant can some people be. I am so glad I do not have FOX news here in Australia, what a Joke.

  • Indigo

    You mean that part isn’t true?

  • PeteWa

    and meanwhile, in Australia where Murdock is from, they have had record breaking heat.

  • perljammer

    No, the polar vortex is not caused by global warming, and it isn’t all that unusual as weather events go (I believe the last significant one was in the 1990′s). It’s the result of interaction between the very cold air above the pole and the warmer air closer to the equator. The cold air has not been “displaced” because it’s so warm at the pole. There is a polar vortex every polar winter; this year the diameter of the vortex is greater than usual because of the greater than usual temperature differential between the pole and the equator. Greater vortex diameter means the vortex extends further south.

  • John Fitzgerald

    The lack of reading skills and simple research capabilities is highlighted by the denier crowd constantly claiming that the increasing extent of ice in the Antarctic is proof that anthropogenic global warming predictions are false. The problem is that, lacking actual reading skills, the incorrectly assume that “global warming” means less sea ice extent in the Antarctic then falsly claim that less sea ice extent was predicted.
    In fact, since the beginning, the increase in ice extent in the Antarctic was predicted. (I was as surprised as anyone when I took the time to find out.) The process is one of the complexity of weather and climate. Precipitation, melting, and ice flows in the Antarctic balance in a way that the net result is increased ice extent. It is a fine example of the failure of real world comprehension repeatedly demonstrated by the “anti-liberal”, “anti-Democrat”, antisocial crowd.
    It is important to understand that 50% of the population has a below average IQ and reading skills. It is important to understand that 50% of the population are more sociopathic than the average. And, it is clear that the conservative/Republican default positions are most ammendable to individuals that are sociopathic or fall below the average for intelligence.

  • markofthebeasts

    I think that another area for confusion is that people don’t really know the difference between “heat” and temperature.

  • http://firefeeder.blogspot.com/ Stratplayer

    And possessed of immense power dwarfing that of mere international corporate interests.

  • John Fitzgerald

    Yes, when I want to know about science, Donald Trump is my “go to” guy!!!

  • John Fitzgerald

    Compared to the minimum wage that they make, yeah, scientists and college professors are wealthy.

  • perljammer

    I assure you that there are many, many terms far more than 39 years old, that are still complete concepts, and the ghosts from the age of enlightenment would be disappointed that you disagree. However –

    “knowing smiles of complexity from the countercultural side of the ditch”

    LOL. I know what each one of those words means, but I have no Idea what you are trying to convey when you string them together that way. You win.

  • Indigo

    Or obsolete. A 39 year old term is no longer a complete concept. It has been refined and developed to the point where a casual climate warming shrug elicits knowing smiles of complexity from the countercultural side of the ditch that the Propaganda Department has not yet fully explained to the Citizenry.

  • nicho

    If Trump’s father hadn’t left him a shitload of valuable NYC real estate, he would be spewing this nonsense while panhandling on a subway car — and not on national TV.

  • Monoceros Forth

    Yeah, I wouldn’t be surprised if we here the “God has withdrawn His protection from America” line at some point, especially something really disastrous happens on account of the weather, like a passenger jet crash.

  • Hue-Man

    Whitehorse, Yukon Territory, 60°43′N 135°03′W, 12:00 Noon PST, 25F. Forecast low 18F.

    You can pick a weather spot anywhere in the world to “prove” any point. I’d rather have the statisticians tell me what the climate numbers are.

    BTW, Sunrise 10:05 AM Sunset 4:09 PM. Normals: Max 7°F Min -8°F

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    —–Thus, the rising popularity of para-gliding.

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    It is the result of an inversion caused by liberal fetuses being aborted by the rise of the gay lifestyle and food stamps.

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    Don’t get me started. :-)

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    Seriously, what’s next—a bubble over the Hamptons?

  • Monoceros Forth

    I’m reminded of the actual gun-nut talking point that any violent crime committed with a weapon other than a gun proves that gun regulation never works.

  • perljammer

    39 years is by no means a long time in terms of global phenomena. It is, however, much more than enough time for a commonly-used term to become irretrievably entrenched.

  • Damien Scott

    Of course, the fact that Australia is coming off its hottest year on record means nothing because that’s not America and because Jesus.

  • Indigo

    It’s the same crowd that imagines all college professors are wealthy.

  • Indigo

    1975 was a long time ago.

  • jomicur

    And I suppose if we have an unusually cool day in August, they conclude it’s not really summer.

  • HolyMoly

    VIRGINIA BEACH, VA — Yeah, it’s cold out here today, about 20 degrees where I live. But I remember my childhood, back in the 70s, when the daily temp would be anywhere from 0 to 10 degrees for a two- or three-week stretch. Occasionally a -1 or something like that. The rest of the winter, December and February, the temp used to hover in the 30s and 40s. Just yesterday afternoon, our temp was 63, and we’ve had weather like that pretty much all winter, hovering around the 50s for the most part. On the whole, our lows in this area today, though they’re still pretty low, are not what they used to be. Has Trump and the other Fox-tards forgotten the balmy weather we had just a couple of days ago?

    We used to get at least two good snows a year, too, anywhere from 3 to 6 inches, which is a LOT around here. Enough to shut the city down for a day or two. I haven’t seen snow like that in almost 20 years. We’re lucky to get a little dusting once a year (like 0.1 inches, if that), sometimes once every other year (and yes, the city still shuts down…even at the THREAT of snow, the schools close).

  • http://www.americablog.com/ Naja pallida

    Cause and effect. The end result is still the same. Idiots deny what is happening around them, while it costs us trillions to keep our patch-work infrastructure functional through years that continue to get worse and worse.

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    Sigh

  • Monoceros Forth

    Oh, yeah, I’ve seen all those rich atmospheric scientists in their gleaming underground laboratories that put Blofeld’s to shame. Forget high finance or upper management: stockbrokers and CEOs all look at meteorologists and grumble about how they’re the ones pulling in the great bucks.

    (Seriously, are there actually people who think scientists are all rich?)

  • http://www.americablog.com/ Naja pallida

    Now you’ve done it. You should have just gone with “because it is the will of Jesus that you be cold.”

  • perljammer

    Heh. I see this terminology issue almost every time the subject comes up, and it always makes me smile. The term “global warming” wasn’t dreamed up by the “Truthers” (I thought they were called “deniers”, but whatever). The man generally acknowledged to be the father of climate change science, Wally Broecker, coined the term “global warming” to describe the phenomenon in his 1975 paper for the journal Science. The title of the paper was, “”Are we on the brink of a pronounced global warming?” If you want to challenge the “global warming” afficionados at every turn, why don’t you start by giving Wally a call?

  • http://heimaey.us/ heimaey

    Isn’t global warming causing this vortex? It’s so warm in the north pole that the cold air is displaced and pushed south…or that’s a theory anyway.

  • Badgerite

    One is the cause. The other the effect. If they focused on the effect, Climate Change, they might be less vulnerable to this ridiculous chortle reflex of the right every time it snows in winter. Because the people that listen to these people have never really looked into the effects of global warming, they really do not understand that this kind of weather extreme is exactly what the climate change models based on global warming predict.
    For instance, the gulf stream, ( the current of warm water that cycles up from the Carribean to moderate the temperatures in Europe ) might be affected by the temperature changes in the ocean and be suppressed by all the cool water from the melting arctic ice. If the Gulf Stream stopped cycling warm water and therefore warm air north to Europe, Europe could turn into Siberia. Those are the possible outcomes of global warming. Changing climates.

  • GoBlue

    The existence of a southern hemisphere, or any curiosity about what temperatures there are like when it’s winter in the northern hemisphere, seems to have escaped most Republicans. But then, a flat earth doesn’t have northern and southern hemispheres.

  • http://AMERICAblog.com/ John Aravosis

    I’ve got your death panel!

  • goulo

    Lots of idiot political cartoons use this “logic” too, unfortunately.

    I like this blog “If Global Warming Is Real Then Why Is It Cold” which collects all these repetitive political cartoons; they show up distressingly frequently:
    http://ifglobalwarmingisrealthenwhyisitcold.blogspot.com/

  • Ninong

    They can’t help it, they’re just plain dumb! Low IQ and conservative beliefs go hand in hand with prejudice and a natural hostility toward science of any kind. That’s why there is something called the Republican party. It’s the natural home for the idiots who vote for people like James Inhoff. It’s not their fault if they’re just plain stupid. We should feel sorry for them. http://www.livescience.com/18132-intelligence-social-conservatism-racism.html

  • http://www.americablog.com/ Naja pallida

    Seems to me that the people who are most likely to believe anything on Fox Noise are also the same people who are most likely to fall for the “I’ve got your nose!” trick with your thumb between your fingers. Like other things, they glom onto one single piece of evidence, no matter how tenuous, and use that to make their case. Whether it is with marriage equality, vaccines causing autism, or Obama being a secret Muslim Kenyan Socialist. Reality never ever matters. Just the ideology, and obeying the appropriate talking points.

  • Indigo

    The Truthers need the expression “global warming” because it is, in fact, conveniently misleading whereas, in the event that we’re ready to talk sensibly, the term that fits is “climate change.” Challenge the “global warming” afficionados at every turn, it’s “climate change.”

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