GOP shutdown fall out – uber survey of the news this morning

As you can imagine there are gobs of stories out this morning about the end of the Republican government shutdown, and the near-miss with defaulting on the federal debt.

Most look at the aftermath, especially for Republicans.  Many are quite interesting.

I went through the stories so you didn’t have to.  Here are some of the more interesting ones, in no particular order:

Guess who won last night? Uh, that guy.

Which House Republicans voted with us last night? The desperate ones. Ted Cruz, liar:

GOP’s Orrin Hatch slams Heritage Foundation, one of the main groups behind the shutdown and the debt default.

Tea Party has made Obamacare more popular.

Courtesy of HuffPo, a video showing Senators slapping each other on the back for a job well done.

More bad polls for GOP:

Chris Hayes says we won because the President held the line:

And here’s an advertisement, because God smiles when I can pay the mortgage:

Thank God our vets can finally visit their chunks of marble on the mall. (Oh yeah, and dying cancer patients also get possible life-saving treatments, if you’re into that kind of thing):

Astronomy pic of the day is back, hurrah!

NASA is back too!

Speaking of which, the GOP shutdown cost us an amount equal to NASA’s entire annual budget:

GOP spokesperson Dana Perino is sad:

GOP member of Congress promises to do it all again:

Pledging to vote against the plan to re-open the government until Jan. 15, 2014 and raise the debt ceiling until at least Feb. 7, 2014 Rep. John C. Fleming (R-LA) indicated that he’s already looking toward the next showdown. “I’ll vote against it,” Fleming said, as quoted by the New York Times. “But that will get us into Round 2. See, we’re going to start this all over again.”

There was an odd, and sad, event last night when the House stenographer had a meltdown on the House floor, and started rambling about God not being mocked, and more.

Journalist Ron Fournier grabs defeat from the jaws of victory:

Sarah Palin, one of the GOP’s most hated members, keeps sticking her nose into all of this, ensuring the GOP brand goes down even further post-shutdown:

Even northeastern moderate Republicans are being burned by the Tea Party shutdown:

EJ Dionne thinks it’s time to stop the lunatics:

David Dayen over at Salon has an interesting argument for why the Obamacare income-verification provision in last night’s deal might pose problems (I have no problem with income verification, and think the idea of using the honor-system to be idiotic, but Dayen raises a good point – why not just check people’s incomes with the IRS, which already has the best data?) DC’s wonderful Hirshhorm Museum is back open:

 And most important of all, Panda Cam is back! panda-cam

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51 Responses to “GOP shutdown fall out – uber survey of the news this morning”

  1. karmanot says:

    Yep, McConnell’s price was a s**t load of bribe pork amounting to a billion dollars or so.

  2. SamDaniel says:

    Some good stories composed here. I am going to take survey from SoGoSurvey after the end of Republican government shutdown.

  3. pappyvet says:

    “Rest well tonight, for soon we must focus on important House and Senate races. Let’s start with Kentucky — which happens to be awfully close to South Carolina, Tennessee, and Mississippi — from sea to shining sea we will not give up. We’ve only just begun to fight.” Palin
    Love the states that she mentioned. It’s 1860 all over again.

  4. BeccaM says:

    Yeah, well, his VP pick was a massive joke.

  5. karmanot says:


  6. karmanot says:

    Who knew McCain had wit?

  7. Zorba says:

    You know how far down the rabbit hole the Republican Party has fallen when John McCain is one of its most rational voices.

  8. Zorba says:

    LOL! Well, Magdalene always appealed to me more than the Virgin Mary. Who wants to remain a virgin her whole life? Boring! Magdalene must have had a far more interesting life. ;-)

  9. Outspoken1 says:

    RE: House Stenographer: OMG (pun intended!!)

  10. Outspoken1 says:

    But one of the real issues is the gerrymandering of the various districts in many states. Some are so tweaked, ONLY a Tea Bagger can win. I hate to say this, but the states power to set their representative districts needs to either be handled by a binding, non-partisan commission or the Federal Govt needs to set representative districts by a binding, non partisan commission

  11. karmanot says:


  12. karmanot says:

    I thought that was you! :-)

  13. BeccaM says:

    John McCain when asked about Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-Stupidistan) and the assertion that McCain supports al Qaeda:

    SEN. JOHN McCain: “Well on that particular issue, sometimes comments like that are made out of malice but if someone has no intelligence, it cannot be viewed as a malicious statement.”

  14. emjayay says:

    Yeah, I’m sure the AntiChrist angle is part of it. By the way, did you notice Scalia believes in a literal Satan? Yikes.

    From the left, I’ve also noticed sudden Obamabot name calling on ahem certain favorite websites for anyone who has anything not totally negative to say about him. Like saying anything else and you are in the mythical TheOne cult.

  15. BeccaM says:

    I think he pulled it out of his ass to make more room for his noggin.

  16. emjayay says:

    Actually, that’s what I meant. They want to cut the stuff that could be fixed by funding adjustments instead, without any analysis of the worth of it or the funding side or the demographics or anything else. If it’s big and they know about it, they just want to cut it. They just hate anyone getting anything. You know, the takers not makers. Except of course military, who get a retirement and medical and cheap groceries plan 100X better than anyone else.

    I would have discussed exactly the kind of solutions you did if I was going there with my little comment. I have no idea what the numbers are, but I bet you could solve the SS problem by just raising the cap to 200K or something instead of eliminating it. Of course statisticians could figure it out in a flash and suggest options and probably already have.

    I was just suggesting that in depth analysis of any program is not a bad thing at all, but that isn’t any part of the right wing agenda. And we just know them too well to ever want to let anyone to get a foot in the door.

  17. BeccaM says:

    Yeah, it’s always a bitch and a half when the responsible adults don’t clean up fast enough the horrific messes left by the previous Republican administrations and Congressional majorities, huh?

    I mean, by time the Republicans have the White House and complete control of Congress again, we might not yet have a surplus for them to squander on irresponsible tax cuts, unfunded corporate and healthcare giveaways, skyrocketing Defense budgets, and two or more off-the-books wars, huh?

    Sorry, but all those things plus crashing the economy during the Bush II administration was just a little too much all at once. Plus we have this problem with Democrats trying too hard yet to compromise with the right wing and failing to realize that ‘compromise’ is the one thing your side won’t ever accept.

    Now then, go play with your toys, because obviously even explaining that shutting down the government and defaulting on the national debt actually COSTS far more money than it saves is a discussion that goes way over your pointy little head. Now shoo. And don’t go eating the cat poop in the sandbox again.

  18. BeccaM says:

    Re: PPACA income verification — yes, I also foresee possible implementation problems, especially among the self-employed and (genuine) small business owners.

    At any given time, I could probably figure out how much I’ve made in the current year, but until the end of the year, I have no idea what my taxable income will be. Deductions and all that, and since my wife and I work in technology, we usually make some end-of-the-year equipment purchases if we can afford them. I can guess — which I do as the year goes along when it comes to paying quarterly estimateds — but I need my accountant next April to tell me how much I actually owe.

    I sure as heck can’t guess how much I’m going to make in 2014. It could be a good year. It could be a bad year. And as I said, I can’t even truly know how much I’ll be making each month between now and the end of 2013 because I could get more work or have my current contracts canceled.

    Now, if on the other hand they make income verification as simple as it was for when I applied for the PPACA high-risk pool — “Send us a copy of your most recent 1040 form” — then it’s not a problem.

  19. Zorba says:

    Why am I reminded of Man of La Mancha and the Golden Helmet of Mambrino song whenever I see comments like brian’s?
    “I can hear the cuckoo singing in the cuckooberry tree….”

  20. Zorba says:

    Well, I certainly didn’t, k. But I maintain that I did look an awful lot like Mary Magdalene. Long hair, long dress, and all. ;-)

  21. The_Fixer says:

    Morons like brian up there get a steady diet of Fox news, Rush Limbaugh, Hugh Hewitt and the like, and believe it because they want to believe it.

    No thought, no independent analysis and all of their problems can be laid at the feet of someone else (liberals, welfare queens and the godless, among others). It hurts to work the brain, so they just say “ditto” and repeat what they’ve heard verbatum any chance they get. As ’em for specifics, and you’ll be directed to some web site with nothing but conspiracy-theory content.

    I’m sure that you’ve known that a long time, but it still startles me to see it in action. It’s all I can do to keep from saying “Could these people be any dumber?”

    Oops, I just said it :)

  22. Indigo says:

    My question isn’t that respectful but okay . . .

  23. The_Fixer says:

    Thanks for takin’ one for the team by readin’ that, you Betcha!

  24. karmanot says:

    Nothing campier than high Noonan.

  25. karmanot says:

    I can see that propeller spinning on the top of your pinhead.

  26. karmanot says:

    Free floating schadenfreude is the best!

  27. karmanot says:

    The first thing to tell him is that we all have our cross to bear and get in line with the others.

  28. Krusher says:

    Thanks, John. I am trapped at work trying to hear the unhearable, so I don’t have time to fully research my causes for schadenfreude. I do most earnestly appreciate your doing it for me.

  29. karmanot says:

    Thing is Mr. Cletus, we all looked like Jesus in the 60’s. Been there Done That. :-)

  30. karmanot says:

    Thank the gods that Panda Cam is back!!! I mean it this time. :-)

  31. Bill_Perdue says:

    Most of what we saw in the last tow weeks was kabuki theater in preparation of attacks on Social Security and what’s left of Medicare.

    Obama won’t be doing any caving because he’s wanted to gut them from the beginning and it seems that he puts them ‘on the table’ at least once a week.

  32. JD234 says:

    She sounds amazingly like the religious nut on Orange is the New Black. In the ongoing debate about that show’s realism vs caricature, another notch on the realism side!

  33. Hue-Man says:

    I don’t know if this is true but it sounds like something I would do!

    “Unfortunately the five-foot-long meteor fragment crushed the weighing scale upon which it had been placed and promptly broke into three separate pieces, but the remains weigh 570kg, Voice of Russia reports.”

  34. NCMan says:

    What is this trillion in new debt your are talking about and where is it coming from?

  35. NCMan says:

    Social Security and Medicare have absolutely nothing to do with welfare. You’re falling for the right-wing talking points. Social Security is self-funded by law and cannot and does not contribute to either the deficit or the debt. Social Security is funded only by FICA taxes. And it has a surplus of over 2 trillion dollars right now. Thta’s enough to cover 100% of its obligations until 2037. Even after 2037 it can still cover about 80% of its obligations without making any changes at all. The problem is that the government has spent SS surpluses on other things and now the republicans don’t want to pay it back. That’s what they are talking about when they make the false claim that SS is going broke. It doesn’t currently bring in enough new money each month to cover its monthly payouts. So, it currently has to cash in some of its IOUs each month. So, the republicans want to implement a solution of cutting SS by 20% now so that we won’t have to cut it by 20% in 2037??? Does that make any sense? They really want to cut it now so that it brings in enough money every month to cover all its obligations without having to cash in anymore IOUs. Its the cashing in of the IOUs they want to avoid like the plague because that means bringing in revenue to pay back SS for the stuff they used the SS surpluses to buy.

    Here’s a better idea. Instead of cutting SS by 20%, just bring in more money on the FICA taxes. FICA taxes are currently only collected on the first $116,000 in earnings. Just eliminate that cap and collect FICA taxes on total earnings. It won’t cost anyone who earns less than $116,000 anything. But, it will make SS 100% solvent as far as the eyes can see into the future without having to cut anyone’s EARNED benefits (not welfare).

  36. fletcher says:

    Just read Sarah Palin’s latest comments on Congress ending the government shutdown. What a tantrum. If she acts any more childish she’ll end up competing on “Toddlers & Tiaras.”

  37. Indigo says:

    Irony does not become you. Just settle down and take your meds.

  38. Indigo says:

    Jesus is coming? Good! I have a couple of questions for him.

  39. Monoceros Forth says:

    And The One and Dictator. I’ve never gotten it at all.

    There’s probably at least a tinge of religious wackoism: if you’re dead set on believing that Obama is the anti-Christ then of course you’ll want to believe that he’s exerting some unholy influence on the people and is amassing an army of enslaved followers. I haven’t ever encountered anyone whose opinion of Obama is any stronger than “meh”, myself.

    I have encountered the stubborn belief that anyone who criticizes Obama is just some starry-eyed idealist with his head in the clouds (TBogg’s boundless contempt comes to mind) but liking Obama and hurling execration at critics are two different things.

    It’s hard not to conjecture that morons like “brian” up there somehow believe that Obama invented deficits and taxation and is personally responsible for their existence.

  40. emjayay says:

    I don’t think it would be a bad idea to actually analyse the long term effects of various programs in various ways. There is nothing wrong with looking at programs of all kinds periodically. Right wingers are correct in a way about subsidising something gives you more of it, and beyond that creating communities of multi (like four generations) of dysfunction and criminality has endless obvious negatives but is still going on for example in NYC to the tune of 400,000 people officially and and an estimate of 600,000 actually. Of course any looking at this stuff has to include the big picture of employment and minimum wage and education etc.

    As progressives we always just throw up a giant roadblock to any thought of any reductions in welfare state stuff because we know what the right is really up to, which of course is putting the big meat cleaver to anything that represents any money going to anyone who isn’t themselves because that’s what Jesus told them.

  41. Monoceros Forth says:

    Oof, let’s not go there. Noonan really should lay off the sauce.

    Seriously, does Obama have any real fans any more? Obviously I can’t take my personal experience as representative of the views of the nation at least but the opinions about Obama I’ve encountered from sane persons range from, “Eh, he’s not so bad,” to, “He’s an [expletive deleted] closet Republican.” If anyone, anyone at all, regards him as a rock star, I’ve never met that person.

  42. basenjilover says:

    Exactly my thinking. I’m still wary of Obama and fear he’ll return to his cave ins and 1 sided (the republicans’) compromising ways.

  43. fletcher says:

    Even worse than the necrophilia Peggy Noonan exhibits in her bobbysoxer writings about Ronald Reagan?

  44. emjayay says:

    And The One and Dictator. I’ve never gotten it at all. Plus this guy going on about all the taxes which are actually about the same or a lower percent of GDP except for a little bit of Bush’s giveaways to rich people resulting in huge debts getting ended. It’s something having to do with this wierd need for a Big Daddy because we don’t have a monarch for that role or something, then some kind of reaction formation thing going on because Obama is the wrong color with the wrong name. Or something.

    Just some random ideas – I haven’t been able in any way to put the picture together and haven’t read anything from anyone whose job actually is to figure stuff like this out and write about it either. But someone must have given it a shot…..

  45. Cletus says:

    RE: The stenographer going all Jesus/Masonry on the House floor:

    One thing’s for certain; either she and that JetBlue pilot who had a similar outburst on a cross country flight were on the same anti-depressants, or Jesus IS coming. If it’s the latter, everyone look busy…

  46. Monoceros Forth says:

    Sarah Palin, unbelievably, is right about something: we’re probably going to see a lot of frothing lunatics running primary challenges against incumbent Republicans.

    I had to look up what the Astronomy Picture of the Day was. From bottom to top it’s the bright star Regulus (Alpha Leonis), Mars (completely overexposed so there’s no visible disc in the photo), and (faint but distinct) Comet ISON.

    Here’s another bit of astronomy news: a large chunk of the Chelyabinsk meteorite has finally been dredged up from the lake it fell into: Every astronomy who studies meteorites is going to want a piece of that.

  47. Monoceros Forth says:

    Right-wingers have this weird hangup, I’ve noticed, when it comes to accusing Obama of being a “rock star”. They’re probably the same people who fapped themselves silly over Bush Lite in his flight suit.

  48. arcadesproject says:

    ‘Tame entitlements’ means ‘Cut social security, Medicare and Medicaid’. That ‘s something Obama
    wants to do as much as the Republicans do. I’ve had the suspicion for some time that the budget show was a diversionary tactic, designed to get the public to look away while they are being robbed.

  49. jomicur says:

    For once Obama actually acted like a real leader, dug in his heels and refused to negotiate (read: cave) with the crackots who run the GOP. If he had done this five years ago I’d be one of his supporters. And I’m certainly willing to give him full credit for the way he handled this. Whether this will mark a turning point in his presidency–a turning point for the good–remains to be seen. Given his performance since 2008, I find it hard to be too optimistic.

  50. brian says:

    I am so happy Obama won! We The People now have to live with another Trillion in new debt. Obama Care and a growing food stamp nation because America has been taxed into poverty under this President . I am so happy today! Go Democrats… Take down those evil Tea Party republications. Who cares how much debt we give them to pay in future taxes. I just love the President like a ROCK STAR! Now, I am so happy to tell my kids 3 things now guaranteed in life… Death, taxes and Obama care!! Whoosh!!! GO B.O. You win baby…

  51. Dan in Houston says:

    Hopefully now, they can porcess my amended tax returns, married filing joint now that the IRS will recognize my marriage to my husband.

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