GOP now demanding we sign a DNR for America

Republican House Speaker John Boehner showed up this morning at a press conference to announce the House Republicans’ response to the shutdown / debt ceiling deal brokered last night between Senate leaders.

And… Boehner and company had absolutely nothing to say:

“There have been no decisions about what exactly we will do.”

The House GOP meeting was clearly in disarray.  And House Speaker John Boehner didn’t even have the votes to pass his own too-extreme proposal that no one else would even agree to.

Some immediate reactions on Twitter to Boehner’s odd, 15-second statement:

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HuffPostMedia: RT @ZekeJMiller: Pelosi: “What you saw here…was a Speaker who didn’t have the votes for his proposal”

brianbeutler: Reid: The House plan “can’t pass the Senate. It won’t pass the Senate.”

TheFix: Also, I am very confused. Boehner didn’t mentioned the alleged House GOP bill at all. So….

NoahCRothman: Bash: GOP in House does not have the votes to pass this plan. Evidently, conservatives still holding out for defund. Insane.

brianbeutler: Boehner didn’t sound very confident just now that his plan can pass.

DavidCornDC: Looks like Boehner still unable to lead his Republicans in any coherent direction. And he’s back to echoing far-right talking pts re Ocare

mmurraypolitics: RT @ktumulty: At news conference, House leaders talking about “fairness,” but blinking SOS in Morse code.

As I’d reported earlier, last night’s Senate deal included:

* Fund the government until January 15th, 2014.

* At the same time, budget negotiations start and finish by December 13th, 2013.

* And the debt ceiling, that expires this Thursday, would be lifted and extended through February 15th of 2014.

It also included income verification on Obamacare subsidies (I’m having a hard time believing we’re not already verifying people’s income eligibility for the subsidies) and a one year delay of the medical device tax because the medical device tax industry apparently lobbies very well.

Hostage via Shutterstock

Hostage via Shutterstock

As for the GOP counter-offer, it appears to include, among things, a provision to guarantee that we don’t avoid default next time the Republicans take the economy hostage.

According to Ryan Grim at the Huffington Post, “the GOP plan bans extraordinary measures to avert default, which is the precise opposite of the prioritization they call for.” Meaning, the GOP plan would forbid the President from prioritizing payments to US debt holders in the event we reach the debt ceiling and Congress has not raised it.  In other words, the House Republicans want to ensure that if we reach the debt ceiling limit, we fall hard.

Essentially, the Republican party is demanding we sign a DNR (do not resuscitate) order for the entire US and world economy.

The House GOP offer also includes:

* Fund the government through January 15.

* Lift debt ceiling through February 7.

* Make President, VP, members of the Cabinet, and members of Congress find health insurance on the Obamacare exchanges and NOT make them eligible for the employer contribution to their monthly premiums (which means they’d have to pay what the rest of us using the exchanges without employer contributions pay).  Congressional staff would still get the contribution.

Contrary to some of my progressive brethren, I’ve not been sympathetic to anyone in Congress getting this employer contribution. I’m not getting an employer contribution to my healthcare (or my retirement for that matter), let them experience the true cost of healthcare in America, then see how quick they are to poo-poo Democratic proposals to make healthcare cheaper and more effective.

* Delay medical device tax for two years.

Presumably the House offer would also include income verification for the subsidies.

The White House has already dismissed the House GOP’s proposal:

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As for why revisit all of this in December and January, keep in mind that Republicans would like nothing better than to delay this entire battle for another year. That way the sequestration levels of funding for the federal government would continue. Democrats are hoping to get the government fully funded again.


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41 Responses to “GOP now demanding we sign a DNR for America”

  1. Bill_Perdue says:

    Why on earth would anyone want to save the institutions of a banana republic in it’s death agony.

  2. MACV says:

    As The New York Times ably pointed out, this shutdown did not just happen. It was plotted for months by a coalition of more than three dozen conservative groups led by Edwin Meese III. You remember Meese. He was Ronald Reagan’s attorney general, who was forced to resign in the Wedtech scandal while under investigation by a special prosecutor. This is not about Obamacare (AND NEVER WAS) … President Obama didn’t even come up with this Healthcare Plan. He took it from Mitt Romney, who implemented it as Governor of Mass., and the extremely conservative Heritage Foundation, who created the “individual mandate in 1993 … to counter the healthcare initiative proposed by the then 1st Lady … HILLARY CLINTON!

    This is a Civil War … 21st Century style. Remember the ACA is their plan … Obama just made it work. They’re like the Old Southern Racists … they wouldn’t take a “helping hand” or a glass of water from a black man … unless he was a “porter”.

  3. Roger says:

    Reid and Obama are the two main players in saving the presidency as a viable institution. I have admired Reid’ determination and steadfastness.

  4. Moderator4 says:

    You have posted this exact same comment twice on this blog (I deleted the other one) and in numerous places all over the web. Stop the re-posting or you will be banned. You are warned, brian.

  5. ericxdc says:

    GRRRRR!!! I know, right? Just big capped weird sentence bagger talking point salad GRRRR.

    feel better now, sweetheart?

  6. ericxdc says:

    oh Brian, Brian, Brian.

    Stop trying to shift blame. Republicans caused the shutdown and only republicans can stop the shutdown. It’s pretty simple. Anything else is pure deflection (but hey, that’s something you’re used to by now, isn’t it?)

  7. brian says:

    Where is OBAMA?? On WABC Talking about phones.
    Obama: Coolest thing about being president is everyone takes your phone calls
    Let’s go over the next cliff… Then Government will be forced to live within it’s means like everyone else.. They take in 260 billion a month (TAX) a month, then work with that!! 2.4 trillion a year is enough!

  8. karmanot says:

    Have another drink and take your paw off the caps.

  9. karmanot says:

    What I’m not seeing in discussions about the probable Debt Ceiling collapse is the role of the banks. The big banks are larger than ever and virtually nothing has been done to regulate and prevent another disastrous collapse. Small business will be fried if the dollar loses it value. There will be a run.

  10. Reality For Liberal Naivete says:

    Um not avoiding default is THE POINT. Take responsibility for your actions – instead of idiotically empowering the government that gave you the rope to hang yourself before. Oh & stop calling everyone a fing racist just because they actually take responsibility for themselves by taking their politicians to task & being economically responsible. Not inflating money & living in a liberal LA LA LAND where everything is going to be free & government & corporations are relatively seperate. The illusion of safety is created by those you empower and throughout history these people let THE PEOPLE fall hard. NOTHING COMES EASY, YOU MESS UP YOU HAVE TO PAY FOR IT – PERIOD.

  11. karmanot says:

    Better get some cash for the future will be starved.

  12. Naja pallida says:

    Consider, that by generous estimates, the number of people worldwide calling themselves al Qaeda, even at its peak, was no more than about 50,000. That’s including the bunch in Iraq that only claimed the name after we invaded, and weren’t really al Qaeda at all. Once all is said and done, Harvard researchers have conservatively estimated that the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan will end up costing the American tax payers somewhere in the range of $4 trillion. We’ve already spent about $1.4 trillion, all straight on the debt, so that number is not hard to believe, considering we’re still fighting and have many vets to care for. Even if we wiped out al Qaeda to a man, it still will cost us somewhere in the range of $80 million apiece. And we have done no such thing. What a great investment.

  13. karmanot says:

    This is typical Harry Reid wishy washy, fumbling, bumbling appeasement as usual.

  14. Tony Mac says:

    Interestingly enough, bin Laden anticipated that exact move. He once noted that as a result of the 9/11 attacks — which cost about $500,000 to achieve — paled in comparison to the costs incurred by the United States.

    “Every dollar of al Qaeda defeated a million dollars, by the permission of Allah, besides the loss of a huge number of jobs,” he said. “As for the economic deficit, it has reached record astronomical numbers estimated to total more than a trillion dollars. (Remember, he said this in 2004).

    “It is true that this shows that al Qaeda has gained, but on the other hand
    it shows that the Bush administration has also gained, something that
    anyone who looks at the size of the contracts acquired by the shady Bush
    administration-linked mega-corporations, like Halliburton and its kind,
    will be convinced.

    “And it all shows that the real loser is you,” he said. “It is the American people and their economy.”

    And before anyone takes my remarks as some sort of praise for this criminal, which it is certainly not, I’m simply remarking on some historical positions which led us to this current situation…

  15. Naja pallida says:

    Except we’re not smart enough to stop our foreign occupations to save money.

  16. Tony Mac says:

    In the midst of this economic turmoil about “saving” the U.S. from a
    possible depression, the Republicans are completing the mission
    established by Osama bin Laden as one of his primary objectives –
    destroy the American economy. Al-Jazeera in 2004, aired portions of a
    bin Laden videotape and in part of the transcript they released bin
    Laden said: “We are continuing this policy in bleeding America to the
    point of bankruptcy. Allah willing and nothing is too great for Allah.”

    Bin Laden remarked how the mujahedin bled the Soviet Union dry
    for ten years…”until it went bankrupt and was forced to withdraw in
    defeat.” And now the Republicans have targeted this President and this
    country for economic defeat and they will continue their terrorist
    tactics until, at least in their minds, they have forced this President
    to withdraw and admit defeat.
    Hopefully they will be the ones
    going down in defeat…never to force their religious-economic fears on
    Americans again… The real enemy is now inside the United States Congress
    and the American people had best realize it…

  17. FLL says:

    The Democrats seem to have a pretty secure lock on the Electoral College in presidential races, and the Republican gerrymandered the House districts after the 2010 census although that has no effect on Senate races. Yes, the Republicans probably consider the presidency to be enemy territory, and they think their best shot is weakening the presidency itself.

  18. devlzadvocate says:

    The “no extraordinary measures” clause? It is like the last gasp of a dying man. Take no extraordinary measures to keep the GOP alive either.

  19. SFExPat says:

    “As for the GOP counter-offer, it appears to include, among things, a provision to guarantee that we don’t avoid default next time the Republicans take the economy hostage.”
    Why does ANYone think anyone would agree to this insanity? What on earth would be the purpose? Oh, I forgot. They want to weaken the presidency now that they can’t have it back.

  20. devlzadvocate says:

    Btw, keep your ears perked for the Michigan Marriage Equality and adoption hearing and decision tomorrow. a Federal Judge will be hearing the case at 10 am at Wayne State University in Detroit. It is likely that the judge will issue his ruling immediately after the hearing. Some counties have been issued orders to begin issuing licenses immediately. It is also expected that the Michigan AG will appeal. Inside track – the judge was appointed by GWB, but has a lesbian daughter. You can figure the rest.

  21. JayRandal says:

    GOPer Randites as I refer to them are American Nazis. Ayn Rand was a fascist and her followers in House are fascists. They want deregulation of everything. They want ZERO taxation of the wealthy. They want Social Security handed over to be fleeced till insolvent in Stock Market accounts. They want Medicaid and Medicare abolished. They want Food Stamps
    terminated. They want perpetual increased funding of Military-Industrial-Complex. They want
    Randism doctrine in entirety to be implemented therefore the wealthy Elite to be in charge.

  22. devlzadvocate says:

    The Randiites, anti-Federalists, whatever, don’t seem to be united on what they want, but they certainly know what they don’t want. They don’t want a Federal government that does anything except offer a general defense of the country (the DoD Marxist jobs program), a single currency, a court system and separate 50 and distinct state governments untethered from Federal authority. To me, it looks a lot like the Euro Zone run by Nazis.

  23. JayRandal says:

    GOPer Randites in House are trying to topple the government. They don’t want to negotiate because
    what they are doing attempting a coup. Until Congressional Democrats call them out as fascists and traitors the Randites continue their insurgency.

  24. BeccaM says:

    Aye, not a solution at all. They’ve had since May to ‘negotiate’ and what’s been the GOP tactic? Not to assign anybody to a conference committee or a negotiation team. To demand conditions and concessions they know will be unacceptable to the other side. To ensure, as I said yesterday, that all the fire doors are chained shut by changing House rules.

  25. Naja pallida says:

    A few months worth of extensions is really not a solution. We’ll just be right back in this same spot in 90 days, having accomplished nothing but cost the tax payers billions. The only hope with that is the closer we get to the midterm elections, the more Republicans up for re-election might get scared… but when many of them are running on a platform of obstruction and hate, they don’t really care.

  26. devlzadvocate says:

    The Constitution doesn’t say anything about political parties nor does justice nor does being on the correct side of history. It is what you make it or are willing to make it. Accept the status quo and you get status quo. Think outside the parties.

  27. Whitewitch says:

    Would that really work Timothy…can someone call the WH and make these suggestions…they don’t take my calls….sadly.

  28. Naja pallida says:

    As much as I am in loathe to agree with you, I think it would be a better option than doing this all over again in a few months by, yet again, caving to their absurd demands. The Republicans can’t be allowed to keep threatening to destroy the economy every three months, and it seems that the only way we’re going to get it through the heads of a few stupid people is to let them shoot a hostage or two. Then, hopefully, more people will finally see just how dangerous their political games really are. We haven’t learned from history at all… but every time they threaten default, the markets tank. Every time they get this close to killing the hostage, it costs the American tax payers billions in devalued bonds, increases in interest rates, and disarray in the markets. They’d be better off just keeping the government open, and raising the debt ceiling, and making a giant bonfire with a billion dollars on the White House east lawn. It would hurt less people.

  29. Whitewitch says:

    I think caphillprof that the default will happen and the future will be very very grim indeed. It looks as if the Grinch is trying to Steal Christmas again….hopefull all the Whos in Whoville will stop it somehow.

  30. BeccaM says:

    The Republicans really can’t help themselves, can they?

    That Senate deal is crap — just approx. 90 days worth of extensions — and still the GOPers can’t say ‘yes.’ They’ve got to have the concession that the Treasury department won’t interfere with future hostage-taking.

    This is extortion, blackmail, sedition, and a slow-motion coup, all rolled up into one.

  31. Naja pallida says:

    Boehner’s interest has nothing to do with helping America, it never has. His primary goal all along has been to grasp that gavel until someone pries it from his cold, orange hands. He’s always been a power seeker, for no other purpose than to claim he has power. Not to help people. Not to serve his country. He’s happy to get all weepy when he starts talking about the American Dream, and then piss all over it legislatively the first chance he gets. His entire career goal has been to claim that gavel, no matter what he had to do to get it. It’s simply not possible to negotiate in good faith with ego and covetousness like that.

  32. nicho says:

    Well, that might work if we had two parties — instead of two wings of the same party, the Corporate Party.

  33. devlzadvocate says:

    I disagree with , ” . . . just default now” and other throw in the towel rhetoric. At some point, the American people are going to have to put a stop this bull or it will only continue. Use the power you have to turn it around. “Shutdown” is also throwing in the towel. When you are fed up enough, you will DO SOMETHING about it. You go there, you confront the assholes and you take it over and you STOP IT.

  34. Phaerisee says:

    Now Boehner is fighting the Senate and his own party. How on earth is this helping America?

  35. Badgerite says:

    If these people are not stood up to, the rest of the world is going to start ‘moving away from us on the bench’. (see Alice’s Restaurant ) And I wouldn’t blame them.

  36. caphillprof says:

    We might just as well default now and get on with the future, as grim as that might be.

  37. Badgerite says:

    President Obama has to be ready to take action. The GOP has lost their ever loving minds.

  38. Timothy Sipples says:

    No.

    OK, Treasury will now pay off bond holders through FedWire and shut down most other payments (including perhaps even Social Security benefits), and what’s left of the Republican Party will discover whether their remaining supporters can fit in a one car garage or a bathtub. Or Treasury will deposit a couple trillion dollar platinum coins in their Fed account. (Good luck trying to refuse those, Ben.) Or Treasury will auction lots of $1,000 T-bills that each pay $200 per annum (i.e. premium bonds/quasi-consuls — and yes those are legal too).

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