Russian propaganda ban author’s anti-gay tirade: Gays rape kids, commit all hate crimes

French journalist Julien Pain has provided AMERICAblog with exclusive footage of Russian anti-gay member of parliament, Vitaly Milonov (the author of St. Petersburg, Russia’s anti-gay propaganda law that became the template for Russia’s now infamous nationwide law), attempting to crash, and close down, a gay festival in St. Petersburg, Russia this past Thursday.

The festival is called Queer Fest, and this is the fifth year the Pride event has been held in St. Petersburg.

Pain, who works for the French TV network, France 24, was in St. Petersburg producing a report on the city’s gay community for a show called Observers Direct, that will air in France on November 4.  While interviewing attendees at the festival, Pain was informed that anti-gay member of parliament, Milonov, was just 30 feet away calling the police to get the festival shut down.

Vitaly-Milonov

Vitaly Milonov, the author of St. Petersburg, Russia’s anti-gay “propaganda” ban, is apparently a tiny bit crazy.

So doing what a good journalist does, Pain walked over, braved Milonov’s redneck thug security (why do they always wear those ridiculous Russian-mafia jogging sweats?), and proceeded to interview Milonov.

Oh, and did Pain get an earful.  Including a bizarre claim from Milonov that the French government used chemical weapons against anti- “gay marriage” protesters in Paris a few months back, which is of course absurd, in addition to being awfully odd.  (More on that below.)

There are two videos below, filmed by Ksenia Bolchakova for France 24.  The first shows Pain approaching Milonov, and Milonov going off on a tirade about how gay people rape children.  Milonov then explains that there are no hate crimes against gays in Russia, but in fact, Milonov claimed, gay Russians beat up straight Russians all the time.  Yeah, sure they do.

This is one of those times that it’s best to let someone hang themselves.  Here’s a quick transcript, video #1 follows:

France 24 journalist Julien Pain: Can I ask you what you’re doing here?

Russian member of parliament Vitaly Milonov: It smells worse here.

Pain: It smells worse?

Milonov: Yes.

Pain: What do you mean ‘it smells worse’?

Milonov: We are looking [at] how European country officials support those who rape kids. Those support sodomies. I think it would be nice for Dutch people to know that the representative of the Dutch government is supporting those who are against Christians. He fights Christian church.

Yes, I’m sure the Dutch people are very concerned that a representative of their government is attending a gay Pride event.  Clearly, Milonov doesn’t get out much.  That, along with Milonov’s notion that gays rape kids, pretty much tells you all you need to know about him.  The man is a bigot, not terribly educated, and if you read on, seemingly a bit crazy to boot.

Pain then engages Milonov in a discussion about violence against gay and trans people in Russia, which we’ve documented at length:

Trans woman brutally beaten by Russian vigilantes, who filmed the attack and then posted it online.

Trans woman brutally beaten by Russian vigilantes, who filmed the attack and then posted it online.

Pain: There’s so much violence going on against gay people…

Milonov: Oh no no no, it’s a fake, it’s a fake information.

Pain: Well, it’s everywhere on the Internet. People get kidnapped, beaten…

Milonov: Oh, oh it’s a foolish story. It’s not true.

Russian vigilantes kidnap and attack a young gay Russian they first stalked on a local social media site.

Russian vigilantes kidnap and attack a young gay Russian they first stalked on a local social media site.

Pain: You’re saying there’s no violence against gay people?

Milonov: It’s not true. I think that much violence goes from gay people to straight people. Much more violence.

Pain: You think there’s no violence against them?

Milonov: No.

Yes, when will those gay people stop committing all those hate crimes against heterosexuals?

Russian vigilantes show off a young gay boy they claim to have abducted and then doused with urine after entrapping him via a gay social media site. Reports from Russia suggest the boy may now be dead.

Russian vigilantes show off a young gay boy they claim to have abducted and then doused with urine after entrapping him via a gay social media site. Reports from Russia suggest the boy may now be dead.

You have to wonder if Milonov is simply stupid, presumes the rest of the world is as out of touch as far too many Russians are, since the country is far from a democracy and doesn’t have a terribly free press, or whether he actually believes this tripe, which brings us back to stupid.

Russia’s anti-gay violence has become world famous now that anti-gay vigilantes are kidnapping young gay and trans Russians, beating and torturing them, and then filming the entire assault and posting it on Russia social media sites, all with the tacit approval of the Russian government which pretty much gives them free reign to do whatever crimes they want, so long as the victim is gay or trans.

15 year old gay Russian boy kidnapped, and tortured, by anti-gay vigilantes that the Russian government refused to arrest.

15 year old gay Russian boy kidnapped, and tortured, by anti-gay vigilantes that the Russian government refused to arrest.

Though in all fairness to the Russians, as a result of the international outcry over the near epidemic of anti-gay vigilante groups spreading across the country, the authorities now say they may prosecute one vigilante, if they can find him (they do have his face and hometown on video, so how hard can it be?), and if he’s convicted, they’ll push for a whopping 3 months in jail for kidnapping and torture.  In contrast, you get 5 years in jail in Russia for shooting a cat.)

Here’s France 24’s first video – fyi, I’m trying to get YouTube to permit the video to embed, but every time I select “permit embeds,” YouTube resets it to “ban embeds.” Seriously annoying. So for this first video, just click through to see it on YouTube if you can’t see it here.

Right, no violence against gay and trans people in Russia. Uh huh.  This young man wasn’t kidnapped, beaten, then raped with a bottle a week ago in order to cure him.

And this trans woman wasn’t publicly beaten.

The second video is just as nutty, with Milonov claiming that France is a fascist country run by the SS, and anyone who disagrees with gay rights is beaten and thrown in jail.

But my favorite part of all is when Milonov claims that the French police used poison gas on religious right and far-right anti-gay demonstrators in Paris a few months back:

Milonov: “Why did you beat peaceful citizens on the street because they were protesting against same-sex marriages?  In France, they beat hardly, they treat with the gas, like Syria rebels.”

Yeah, I’m pretty sure the French government didn’t use Sarin gas against religious right anti-gay protesters in Paris. Good try, though. As lies go, Milonov wins an Oscar for that one.

When Pain tries to explain that anti-gay protesters were arrested several months ago in Paris for violently attacking the police, Milonov claimed it was all lies. In fact, Milonov is the one who is lying, as has been detailed repeatedly on this site, and via the French media and live video taken from the violent far-right anti-gay protests in France.

Milonov also had a rather telling “tell” in his talk with Pain. After Pain identified himself as a French journalist, Milonov kept suggesting that Pain was speaking for the French government.  It was almost as if Milonov couldn’t understand the fundamental concept that in most developed nations, the government doesn’t own and operate the press (nor do we murder journalists who refuse to be run by the government).

In many ways, watching Milonov in these videos, it brought me back to all of my years of Soviet Studies, and my trips to the Soviet Union and then Russia shortly after the USSR was dissolved.  Milonov would have made a fine Soviet. Lots of hate and lies, and ignorance, swirling inside that man.

Then there’s also the fact that he used to be a Baptist, which is odd and telling.  Russia is Russian Orthodox.  I’m Greek Orthodox.  It’s all part of the larger Eastern Orthodox Faith. It’s somewhat odd in those countries to choose to be a member of a different Christian faith.  Even odder, I’d argue, to then switch back, which Milonov did later on.  For someone who claims to care so much about his faith, he seems rather flighty about faith in his own life (Marco Rubio’s bouncing ball faith journey comes to mind).  It’s just an interesting observation about a man who seems to have a lot of issues.

Here’s France 24’s second installment:

The Russians are going to need to pay their Madison Avenue PR firm, Ketchum, another couple of million to clean up this mess.


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  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    Enema Was Here

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    They never abort a fascist fetus.

  • Elena Senik

    i hope Milonov will be punished for all that lie. it’s awfull that our government lies about gays and naive people believe that lie and they startin think that gays are paedofhiles and crime persons. it’s hard to live in russia not only for LGBT but even for gay-friendly straights like me. I was trying to say to my so-workers that this laws about “gay-propaganda among kids” are false and fashists laws, but people around me dont even want to listen the truth, they laughing at me, they saying that only a sick person can protect other “sick persons”((( they don’t even understand that homosexuality is NOT a crime and not a mental deseas, they don’t believe in science, in medicine, in psychitry which are saying that facts, they believe only the things which they heard on central TV (controlled by authorities), its fulled of putin’s homophobia propaganda… Noone listens to me, almost all the russians – are stupid xenophobic naive people, they brains are somewhere in medieval time. These people hate pussy riot and even wishing a death for them… Please save our country somehow. I don’t know when all this shit will be gone, but i hope i will see changes for good when i will be aged, unfortunately it won’t happen earlier.

  • Ivan Gayhaterov

    Mr.Milonov protects gays in Russia. Don’t you understand? The first gay parade in Russia is going to be the last one. We are going to linch’em on every tree with a piece of carton saying “it was a poo-piper”. So here’s a nice plan for you, dear us and eu tolerasts. Vote for giving refuge statuses to all the russian queers. Help us to clean our country from this scum, please.

  • http://AMERICAblog.com/ John Aravosis

    I don’t object to her suggestion. She might be right. But folks shouldn’t assume that we all know what they’re thinking. I’m sincerely interested in why she thinks it might help our case to include that info – but it’s rarely a good idea to suggest something and then say the reason behind your suggestion is “obvious and self-evident.” It’s often not, or we would have implemented your idea in the first place :)

  • http://AMERICAblog.com/ John Aravosis

    LOL he wishes he looked like that :)

  • Mandi Merlenbach

    Good Orwell quote my friend.

  • Anonymous

    And afraid of losing jobs that allow them to siphon huge amounts of $ for personal gain.

  • Anonymous
  • Palto

    I think they’re unanimous because the political sheep there are afraid of the personal repercussions if they vote against them.

  • Palto

    This piece of garbage parading around as a man should be raped with a beer bottle. In every orifice simultaneously.

  • http://www.rebeccamorn.com/mind BeccaM

    I’m guessing it’s because you didn’t write the post to Ms. Halington’s editorial satisfaction.

    I, for one, am not going to mention the UN or ECHR in every single post I write. Not only is it repetitive and redundant, but as you say, John, we’re not always writing for non-American audiences. It also makes little sense — especially given how utterly toothless both of those organizations are.

  • http://AMERICAblog.com/ John Aravosis

    mwah :) You’ve helped quite a bit too :)

  • http://AMERICAblog.com/ John Aravosis

    What are those obvious and self-evident reasons? American audiences don’t tend to care about the UN or the ECHR. So it wouldn’t really help win over folks here. Perhaps in Europe. So, I guess I’m asking what the obvious and self-evident benefit is to including it. Happy to, just curious how it helps?

  • PeteWa

    Milonov is a great example of what happens when stupidity and hate have a baby.

  • Anonymous

    Not to mention the “cure camps”

  • Anonymous

    This guy seems like a closet case to me, like Rick Santorum. Obsessed with anti-gay sentiments, unable to focus on any other topic, rabid emotional connection to the subject…

  • Bob Jones

    Okay, who’s the one actually spreading the propaganda again, because it doesn’t seem like it’s the gay people are the ones telling lie if what this article says is true.

  • Emma Halington

    This is a comment direct at the AUTHOR of this piece and any author who writes similar pieces: I urge that you, in every single article on this topic, mention the international human rights law aspect of the situation (what the United Nations, European Court of Human Rights, et al have said/ruled), for obvious & self-evident reasons.

  • http://www.rebeccamorn.com/mind BeccaM

    Remember, this isn’t just some homophobic loon. Milonov — along with Elena Mizulina and her deputies in the Duma — actually wrote the law now in effect throughout Russia. And had it pass unanimously.

    This guy says he believes gay people rape children.

    The next step, which they’re already discussing, will have the Russian gov’t seizing the children of LGBT parents. Think that won’t pass unanimously, too? In this climate of irrational anti-gay hate?

    I’d suggest the step after that is obvious and closer than anybody thinks: Forced institutionalization of gay people and imprisonment. Forced sterilization. Gulags and genocide.

    As I’ve remarked before, in a way, the choice of LGBTs as Russia’s new scapegoat is a brilliant (and monstrously evil) piece of propaganda. Why? Because the right-wing religious extremists in countries all over the world love what Russia is doing.

    Including the fundamentalist radicals here in America.

  • http://www.rebeccamorn.com/mind BeccaM

    Actually, there are groups here in the U.S. who claim to be ‘inspiring’ Russia’s anti-gay pogrom.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/19/scott-lively-russian-anti-gay-laws_n_3952053.html

    Then there’s Bryan Fischer, and NOM and FRC…

  • StraightGrandmother

    I want to give MAJOR PROPS to John Aravosis who more than anybody does the in depth reporting on Gay Hating Russia.
    As of right now, he seems to be the “Go To Person” for people who have evidence of what is happening in Russia. If you want to disseminate the evidence, send it to John Aravosis, seems to be what is happening.

    Our OTHER GREAT GAY BLOGGERS are on this like white on rice also, and I thank ALL OF THEM. Keep exposing the truth Gay Bloggers, keep it up.

  • http://www.rebeccamorn.com/mind BeccaM

    The German Nazis used to spout all kinds of ridiculous, slanderous propaganda about Jewish people.

    Saying that gay people rape children is just a page from the same book. It’s not merely an absurdity. It’s an attempt to use the Big Lie technique to cause an entire nation to hate a carefully chosen scapegoat.

  • http://AMERICAblog.com/ John Aravosis

    Pain is the journalist. But I suspect he’s now a pain in Milonov’s ass :)

  • http://AMERICAblog.com/ John Aravosis

    Lots of homemade vodka? Or the wrong Jesus.

  • http://AMERICAblog.com/ John Aravosis

    Correct, here they’re a glitch, there they’re a feature.

  • http://www.rebeccamorn.com/mind BeccaM

    Well, here in America, compulsive watching of Fox News and listening to Limbaugh and Hannity on the radio will do the trick.

  • http://www.rebeccamorn.com/mind BeccaM

    That’s the key difference, isn’t it: In Russia, the crazy bills are being passed, unanimously.

  • Thom Allen
  • Thom Allen

    It sounds like Milonov has been schooled by members of the Westboro Baptist Church. the Tea Party and the Orthodox church. If he mentions sex with animals, Sharia Law and Death Panels, we’ll know that Santorum, Bachmann and Palin were all part of his training, too.

    The really sad part is that he can make outrageous claims like these, without providing any facts, and millions will believe him without ever investigating for themselves. It just coincides with their world view so it must be true.

    .

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    The Orthodox Church for one.

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    It is time to amount a major tourist boycott against Russia.

  • Thom Allen

    Or, what does someone have to stop ingesting (his anti-psychotic meds) to get like this?

  • chris10858

    Obama needs to come out and speak about old school, “Soviet-style” politics being brought back there in Russia… then, in the same breath, Obama can talk about those Republicans who support Putin and the Soviet style of government. Use the situation to put the Repubs on the defense for a change.

  • wmforr

    I remember 50 years ago when the Conservatives here hated all things Russian–dirty commie Reds.

    Now Red means conservative and the Right has embraced Stalinist tactics–and this guy sounds like he might be in the Republican candidate pool in 2016,

    And they looked from the pigs to the humans and couldn’t tell the difference.

  • http://www.newmillgay.com/ The_Fixer

    You’re assuming that the majority of people who are watching this guy on TV are going to be perceptive enough to know that he’s crazy. After watching what’s been going on in Russia lately, I would not be surprised to hear that he is popular in his “district” (or whatever they call it over there).

    You’d hope that would be the case. But there are lunatics with a sizable amount of support all over the world. And they don’t even know how crazy they sound when they speak.

    I’d love to think that he would be roundly rejected by the world, and that Russia would pay attention. But it seems that defiance of human norms has become the custom over there. Not that things are perfect in other parts of the world (USA included), but this is particularly egregious.

  • jomicur

    To be fair, there are people in our own congress who are that batshit crazy (most but not all of them from the South). When he started ranting about hate crimes, the first thing that came to mind was Virginia Foxx’s claim that the murder of Matthew Shepard was a hoax. But to be equally fair, lunatics that obvious are in a small minority, and when they introduce their screwy bills, they get ignored. The
    Russian parliament passed their mad laws unanimously. I am constantly horrified by what is happening in Russia, with full official sanction.

  • http://www.newmillgay.com/ The_Fixer

    What does someone have to ingest to get so far removed from reality?

  • fletcher

    Pain is a pain in the ass!

  • Badgerite

    I was struck by that too. How very gutsy to hold a festival in that kind of environment. Courage personified.

  • Badgerite

    It’s a point. But check out the article in Slate by William Saletan about the interview Pope Francis gave to La Civilta Cattolica. This particular Pope has a whole different way of thinking on a number of issues than has previously been heard from any Pope. There are some rather breathtaking quotes. As to papal infallibility he states:

    “All the faithful, considered as a whole, are infallible in matters of belief,” he argues. “When the dialogue among the people and the bishops and the pope goes down this road and is genuine, then it is assisted by the Holy Spirit…..
    We should not even think, therefore, ‘thinking with the church’ means only thinking with the hierarchy of the church.”

    Another words, Papal edicts and pronouncements of the past and therefore the present and future can be wrong. (Yeah, I know. Obvious even to a dope, but the Church, to my knowledge has never let on that it could get an issue wrong in the present tense.) And it is an admission that the opinions of the rank and file Catholics may have as much validity as the hierarchies meeting in council or the Pope acting after solitary reflection.
    Things can change. Even in a religious institution as old and set in its ways as the RCC.

  • Inis_Magrath

    He’s not merely a lunatic. He is a lunatic whose virulent anti-gay delusions have been adopted into LAW by the Russian government. He is a very dangerous man.

  • Parque_Hundido

    This guy needs more microphones, more cameras. I can’t help but hope that his brand of unglued crazy babble is all people need to decide he cannot possibly be sane.

  • Badgerite

    The protesters themselves had threatened violence and gone on to claim that a violent reaction to the law was to be expected. Whether they ‘had it coming’ or not, tear gas is used in just but all countries as a means of crowd control when violent demonstrations are gearing up. Not to be confused with sarin gas which is used, not for crowd control and curbing violence but for crowd annihilation. Big difference.

  • http://michaelhawthorneonline.com/ MikeinSanJose

    So he’s admitting that all these ‘gay vigilantes’ posting videos of their hate crimes against gay Russian youth are actually homosexual pedophiles themselves?

  • http://AMERICAblog.com/ John Aravosis

    Well, yes they did have it coming. As for your first link, it linked to a page that basically proved they had it coming, but you didn’t say that (so it looked like the link proved that the police were unnecessarily violent, and the landing page doesn’t show that at all). And yes, you had the wrong link for that second link. It went to a generic Wikipedia page suggesting other searches.

  • olandp

    If they want to do something about the rape of children, the first step should be to ban the Catholic Church.

    Perhaps they have???

  • Badgerite

    I know. They just need to have some excuse to say it is about public good rather than what the real motives are. Because, of course, the real motives are not good ones or in the societal interests of the Russian people or any people really.

  • perljammer

    The HuffPost link says exactly what you say; I guess I don’t understand the difference it makes to the person gassed whether you describe the use of tear gas as “used against anti-gay protesters” or “forced to use against anti-gay protesters to stop their violence.” Unless, that is, you think they had it coming, which is a popular rationalization for all kinds of behavior.

    The Wikipedia article is not a “dead page.” It was last updated on Sept 4 of this year. Perhaps I inadvertently mangled the link? Here it is again:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tear_gas.

    If that doesn’t work for you, try the second paragraph here : http://www.opcw.org/chemical-weapons-convention/about-the-convention/.

    Or, maybe you like Slate better :http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/explainer/2010/02/why_isnt_tear_gas_illegal.html

  • Mike_in_the_Tundra

    I’m not sure about the molestation aspect, but I strongly suspect he is a closet case.

  • Mike_in_the_Tundra

    This really drives me crazy with the absurdity. I am attracted to adult males. Male or female children look nothing like an adult male. I don’t even find twinks attractive. Actually, I spent a good chunk of my life with a men 12 years my senior.

  • Bill_Perdue

    Fortunately for our sisters and brothers in Russia the Putin regime is being widely challenged by the left and by unions and that offers them plenty of room to build alliances and get broad support.

    As the Russian anti-gay groups coalesce and move further to the right they’ll spark even greater resistance and become even more vile. The fact that our sisters and brothers held a film festival is a sure sign that they have the courage and tenacity they’ll need to square off against the Putin regime and eventually make progress, just as we eventually progressed in spite of the Reagan, Bush (1&2), Clinton and Obama regimes.

    We won’t really win in either country until we have a workers government and a socialist state.

  • http://AMERICAblog.com/ John Aravosis

    Okay, you linked to two things to prove your point, and neither really does – your first link purports to back up that the French used tear gas against anti-gay protesters (the link itself however is to a story about the violence being done by the French anti-gays themselves, which caused the need for tear gas to stop their violence), and the second link was to a dead page on wikipedia. You didn’t really present the links that way. I have no problem with you expressing concerns about tear gas, but try to put links in your comment that are related to what you’re saying, otherwise it looks like you’re providing “proof” of your assertion, when you’re really not.

  • Badgerite

    The ‘rape children’ bullshit is just an excuse. They want to harass and beat up on gays because they find them somehow PERSONALLY threatening (God knows what that’s about) so they need to pass a law under color of some kind of societal interest. Enter the Catholic Church’s scandals. How convenient. They also find lesbians, transgender and bisexual people threatening as well, so they lump them into the law and with the same excuse. To my mind, the people covered by this law are not just convenient scapegoats. Though they are that. There are more then personal issues going on though. They are also threatening to ex Soviet types because somehow they threaten the tendency to conformity of thought at a time when Putin is trying to reassert control over any kind of free thought that would threaten his authoritarian moves. The more he can divide the Russian sensibility from a European one, the greater will be his ability to control it.
    Or, maybe I’m giving the guy too much credit and he’s just a mean idiot.

  • Monoceros Forth

    The level of hate this man exudes tells me he is a gay man who believes he is gay because he was molested as a child.

    Dare I suggest he may have been molested by a priest? I say that not to score a cheap point but because of the last observation of Mr. Aravosis’s about Milonov’s curiously fluid devotion to his religion.

  • Monoceros Forth

    It’s like he gobbled up every wild-eyed slander bandied about on the religious right, chased them with a few choice tidbits of his own making, and then vomited them all back up again in one nauseating, stinking mass.

  • perljammer

    As is usual in propaganda, lies usually contain a kernel of truth. “In France, they beat hardly, they treat with the gas, like Syria rebels.”

    No, of course the French government didn’t use Sarin gas against anti gay marriage protesters. They used tear gas (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/11/france-gay-marriage-homophobic-assaults_n_3059482.html), which though usually non-lethal, is nonetheless considered a chemical weapon and is banned for wartime use by the same treaties that ban lethal chemical weapons such as Sarin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tear_gas).

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  • Bj Lincoln

    The level of hate this man exudes tells me he is a gay man who believes he is gay because he was molested as a child. His extreme religious affiliations compounded the hate with lies based on fear and ignorance. He is so angry he will not listen to reason or facts and is bent on making life for the rest of us as miserable as he is.
    Why is it that one disturbed person can create such a horrible situation with lies but the truth from millions of LGBT people are not believed?

  • http://AMERICAblog.com/ John Aravosis

    I do appreciate that he at least is easily exposed. Better to know your enemy than not. But yes, clearly not a nice man, nor a particularly well informed or sane one either.

  • olandp

    There are some people with whom you just cannot reason. This man is stark raving mad.

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