Putin: Gays face no discrimination in Russia, are depopulating Europe

Russian President Vladimir Putin, apparently interested in earning his NYC-based PR firm, Ketchum, some extra money covering up his ongoing domestic and international human rights violations, today claimed, incredibly, that not only do gays face no discrimination in Russia, but that gays are responsible for depopulating Europe.

Putin is in the midst a multi-year campaign to save his failed presidency via Russia’s tried and true tactic of picking on a minority.  It used to be Jews (well, it still is Jews), but now it’s also gay and trans people.  Putin recently signed a draconian anti-gay law making it basically illegal for gay and trans people to be out, but it also makes it illegal for anyone (gay or straight) say, or do, anything perceived as pro-gay, including something as simple as wearing rainbow suspenders.

The Russian legislature is now working on legislation to take away the children of gay people.  What a lovely venue for the 2014 Winter Olympics.

In response to the culture of hate that Putin and the Russian legislature have fed over the past few years, a nationwide vigilante organization is now kidnaping and torturing young gay Russians in order to punish and/or “cure” them of their gay sexual orientation.  In one case just last week, the Russian vigilantes kidnapped, beat, put a gun to the head, and then raped with a bottle and baseball bat, a young gay Russian, filmed it, and then posted the video online.

The Russian authorities are generally uninterested in prosecuting the violent vigilantes, in essence giving them the government’s tacit approval to kidnap and torture young Russians who the Putin regime disapproves of. Keep in mid that most of these videos not only show the victims’ faces, they show the faces of the kidnappers and their small home towns. (See screen shots from some of the videos below.) So it’s not exactly rocket science finding out who these folks are.

Though it should be noted in one case, after the international media descended on the story, the Russians said they would attempt to prosecute the criminals, and that if convinced, they would get 3 months in jail. By contrast, you get 5 years in jail in Russia for shooting a cat.  Naturally, there’s been no word of progress in the case.

But Vladimir Putin says there’s no discrimination against gay and trans people in Russia.  Discrimination like this:

Image of the young man who was kidnaped, tortured and raped, via RFE/RL.

Image of the young gay man who was kidnaped, tortured and raped, in Russia on September 11, 2013, via RFE/RL.

Or this:

Trans woman brutally beaten by Russian vigilantes, who filmed the attack and then posted it online.

Trans woman brutally beaten by Russian vigilantes, who filmed the attack and then posted it online.

Or this:

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Or this:

15 year old gay Russian boy kidnapped, and tortured, by anti-gay vigilantes that the Russian government refused to arrest.

15 year old gay Russian boy kidnapped, and tortured, by anti-gay vigilantes that the Russian government refused to arrest. The vigilantes later tried to pour urine on the boy, after threatening to out him to his parents in his small village.

Or this:

Russian vigilantes show off a young gay boy they claim to have abducted and then doused with urine after entrapping him via a gay social media site. Reports from Russia suggest the boy may now be dead.

Russian vigilantes show off a young gay boy they claim to have abducted and then doused with urine after entrapping him via a gay social media site. Reports from Russia suggest the boy may now be dead.

Or this:

Russian vigilantes kidnap and attack a young gay Russian they first stalked on a local social media site.

Russian vigilantes kidnap and attack a young gay Russian they first stalked on a local social media site.

Or this:

An LGBT rights activist after being attacked by Russian thugs this year. (Photo by Ilya Varlamov, with permission)

An LGBT rights activist after being attacked by Russian thugs this year. (Photo by Ilya Varlamov, with permission)

Or this:

Russian anti-gay thugs kick an LGBT rights activist. (Photo by Ilya Varlamov, with permission)

Russian anti-gay thugs kick an LGBT rights activist. (Photo by Ilya Varlamov, with permission)

You have to keep in mind that Putin grew up in the KGB – and even took over the domestic follow-on to the KGB –  which was a key part of the Soviet police state, but also very pre-Internet.  It seems that Putin’s professional training as a paid liar for the brutal Soviet regime – a dictatorship that was in fact seriously adept at lying (they put Fox News to shame) – isn’t doing him any favors in the new millennium in which the Internet quickly debunks the Russian president’s hateful, bigoted and in this case, bizarre, lies.

Putin made a second, even more bizarre, point about how gays were somehow responsible for depopulating Europe, a continent that Putin claims is dying.

Putin says while some European nations have allowed gay marriages, “the Europeans are dying out … and gay marriages don’t produce children.”

And anyone wonders why Russian vigilantes are kidnaping and torturing gays, with President Torquemada at the helm.

As for Putin’s bizarre claim that Europe is dying, perhaps Putin should get out of Russia once in a while and see just how dying Europe is. It’s so dying that Russia’s top Olympic pole vaulter recently quit Russia all together and moved to Monaco, talking about how boring and ugly her former home town is.  That’s how “dying” Europe is.  Russia should only hope to “live” as much as Europe is “dying.”

Not to mention, France, where gay marriage is legal, has a growing population, whereas Germany, where gay marriage is not legal, does not.  So in addition to being ridiculous, Putin is also wrong on the fact (better ask Ketchum about this one too, Vlad).

Putin, like our own conservatives here in the US and in Europe, is pandering to worst of the country, and it doesn’t really matter to him if he tells them the truth of their lives, the truth of how we live in America and Europe compared to mafia- and skinhead- ridden Russia.  What matters is a lie believable enough to give the people an enemy to blame for their woes, rather than have them blame the man truly responsible, the guy running the country into the ground.

You do have to give Putin credit for one thing.  A lot of people, worldwide, had no clear idea what Russia was like since the fall of the Soviet Union.  I suspect a lot of people had hoped that things were significantly better now that the tyrants, the dictators, and the ensuing police state were finally gone.  Except they weren’t gone.  And now the entire world knows it.

So thanks, President Putin, for showing the world just how backwards, hateful and dangerous a place Russia is for every day life, for business, and for the Winter Olympics in 2014.


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  • Jack

    This site is so STUPID! ROFLMAO!

  • Chris Granzow XI

    “As for Putin’s bizarre claim that Europe is dying…”

    Are you implying Europe isn’t dying?? The demographics speak for themselves. Europe has been below A lot of European countries are worse off than Japan, which is notorious for its low birth rate. The lowest countries in the world are either in Europe or east Asia, far below the replacement rate of 2.1.

    -en. wikipedia. org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_and_dependent_territories_by_fertility_rate

  • Chris Granzow XI

    That’s because the majority of births in England and France are thanks to their high muslim populations. Same thing in America, with whites having the lowest fertility rate.

  • Dene Venter

    The high cost of living is depopulating the first world: It’s impossible to bring up children, cloth, feed, medicate, educate et al, and still sustain basic living expenses even with two incomes in an ordinary middle class society. For that reason most white people have less children – rather quality over quantity. As for the gay issue: Gays are discriminated against everywhere in the world, not just Russia, however, social depravity causes people to lack sensitivity and lash out at any designated group, in order to substantiate an in-group-bias. It is a clever tactic when used ‘politically’ to detract from the real pressing political issues and create focus elsewhere – on a designated target group. It servers as a ‘glue’ which binds them against an enemy real or imagined. What was different for Nazi Germany? It still comes down to the individuals choice though. Do unto others…Judge not lest yeah be judged…The ‘dharmic ethos’ of a group is precedent for its future and that alone – otherwise the sins of the father shall bear heavy upon their children…

  • neroden

    Putin is no Vlad.

    Vlad promoted a strict “rule of law” policy, and under his regime nobody had to worry about theft or assault or violence committed by thugs, because such thugs would be impaled — very quickly. If Vlad were running Russia, all those videos of thugs torturing gay people? The thugs would have their heads on pikes.

    Putin is quite the opposite.

  • neroden

    Your race is the human race. Get a clue.

  • neroden

    In addition to the extremely high drinking rates, they have extremely high smoking rates.

  • neroden

    The hysteria about dropping populations is a weird thing. Hasn’t anyone there heard about the overpopulation problem?

    I think we have to figure out what the root of this “birth hysteria” is.

  • Patriot1

    What’s a “homophobe?” I looked up the word in my Webster’s 1828 Dictionary. No such word exists. Must be a Newspeak word created by sodomites to vilify those who oppose their perverse behavior.

  • sanarose

    fg

  • Gindy51

    They have severe drug and alcohol problems, the likes of which we’ve never seen here. When you have 70K people die of drugs and 500K die of alcohol poisoning, you have a huge problem with the current population that more people being born will not solve. Many provinces have no treatment facilities and many of them are more like jail than a hospital, plus who the hell can afford treatments there?

  • GrantLV

    The social and political structure in Russia is the dream most Republicans have for this country. A two-class system, the few at the top and the many uneducated, underpaid, and fearful at the bottom. We must do everything in our power not to descend to this level. It cannot be achieved with a party whose sole aim is not to make the nation better, but to try and destroy the other party. They must be voted out of congress if they do not have the nation’s best interests at heart.

  • Emma Halington

    Right, except the United Nations and international human rights organisations saw right through this lie and have stated that rather than help children, it will in fact hurt children (i.e. gay kids).

  • Emma Halington

    Hey, they did with the Nazi games, now it’s the Putin regime games!

  • Emma Halington

    Proof? Let’s see if this proposed EU bill actually exists.

  • Luigi Proud DemoCat!

    Russians are responsible for the rise of Neo-Nazism and homophobia in Russia, just like Germans were responsible for the rise of Hitler, and Americans are responsible for the rise of the Tea Party.

  • http://www.americablog.com/ Naja pallida

    It says they live in a country where there hasn’t actually been any serious measure of political freedom since the middle ages. They are a people that has been oppressed by autocratic governments for their entire modern history. Even today with Russia ostensibly trying to step into the modern world, they still live in a place where dissent in general is only barely tolerated, and actual protest can have you thrown in prison. It is safer for an individual to keep their head down, and mind their own business, than get involved. Or even agree with the whatever the government says if asked, just to not risk being harassed. And this is how many Russians have lived for a hundred years. It’s very easy for Americans to point fingers, because we take for granted that we have the freedom to do so.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcrEqIpi6sg Moderator4

    LOL! Good for you, 3. :)

  • Moderator3

    Doubly so. I banned him yesterday.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcrEqIpi6sg Moderator4

    Sweandr, you are banned. Good-bye.

  • Luca

    In Europe country as Poland or Lithuania or Russia not very gayfriendly has lower birth rate then England, France or Iceland. But what about Green Greenwlad? He is working for an homophobic president. Russia homophobic propagande is more dangerous than NSA, he has sais that is homosexuality was the reason of his fight against NSA…

  • leoy

    Sodomites faggots like to rape our children and give them aids. Fag is bestialists is pedophiles is abnormal beasts.

  • Luigi Proud DemoCat!

    As a 62 year old white Anglo, I eagerly await the depopulation of you, Mr. sweandr and those who think like you. Thankfully, you’re spending you’re time spewing hate rather than impregnating women with your degenerate white seed.

  • Ninong

    Putin saying gays are welcome in Russia is like Fred Phelps saying gays are welcome at Westboro Baptist Church.

  • Luigi Proud DemoCat!

    Please remember that Putin and his buddies claim that their laws are not anti-gay, they’re only designed to protect the children. It’s this lie that the International Olympic Committee is using as an excuse to get in bed with Russian bigots and assist Russian with their anti-gay pogrom.

  • http://fighttherightwingnuts.blogspot.com/ mike31c

    Putin is a moron and I hope the LGBT stands up and burn the morons to the ground.

  • unreligious

    Since you have no concept of what the word genocide means perhaps you should not use the term.

  • politicalcynic

    “but it also makes it illegal for anyone (gay or straight) say, or do,
    anything perceived as pro-gay, including something as simple as wearing rainbow suspenders.”

    I wonder where the news coverage is of the proposed EU law making it illegal for anyone to say, or do, anything perceived as “anti-feminist”? Funny how the left is HAPPILY engaged in the EXACT behavior that Putin is-but ONLY criticizes Putin for it. Perhaps the left needs to start checking it’s privilege? Hypocrisy is a BAD way to try to convince those of us who ACTUALLY keep track of what BOTH sides are doing that the left has the moral high ground here.

    To be clear-I oppose Putin’s anti-gay laws. I ALSO oppose the EU law proposing to ban anything that is “anti-feminist” (which is not, of course, defined). BOTH sides are behaving like tyrants by seeking to ban “speech” that is “offensive” to them-and I decline to accept tyrants of ANY stripe. I find it fascinating, however, that the media is so HAPPY to report ONLY the side that is “pleasing” to the left..while ignoring the left’s own viciously anti-free speech behavior. (And yes, dear MSNBC-your bias is CLEARLY showing….)

  • Anonymous

    “Disgusting genocidal pig” sounds like a classic case of projection, lol.

  • Anonymous

    Right, that’s exactly what he said. You need glasses.

  • Anonymous

    Lol, using loaded words right away and we’re the unreasonable ones?

  • Anonymous

    Maybe you just can’t grasp what really affects population growth. So ignorant, it’s sad.

  • jiff363

    You are an embarrassment to the human race and most of all to the white race.

  • jiff363

    You are sick in the head and need to go…..

  • jiff363

    Do you think Russia will have concentration camps and human sized ovens ready in time for the Olympics?

  • FLL

    LOL. The Onion nailed it.

  • FLL

    Do you think that “trying to fight for the survival of my race” includes kicking gay people in the teeth as a way of increasing the white population? Don’t be surprised if gay people kick you in your teeth right back again. Your problem, apparently, is that you skipped kindergarten and went directly into first grade. You never learned all those important lessons that we learn in kindergarten:
    (1) How to share the crayons.
    (2) Other people can fight back. Duh.

  • Gaybygod

    Praise God for making it so clear, WHO is defending this law!
    So why not campaign to encourage straight white people to hump more, and pop out more children that they cannot care for, or educate!

  • Gaybygod

    Like Russia really needs to have a population growth! TAKE CARE OF THE PEOPLE THEY HAVE … at the most, educate them!

  • http://AMERICAblog.com/ John Aravosis

    So just to clarify, you like to fuck women, but if gays aren’t exterminated, you’re going to end up sucking cock because you can’t help yourself. Okay….

  • Badgerite

    There have been indications and reports of Russia being moved back toward a more authoritarian form of governance for a decade. Recent actions and statements by Putin confirm this. Putin was raised and climbed the institutional ladder during the days of the old Soviet Union. I think he internalized their ideas more than most and cannot really understand how democracy can work or how it can benefit Russia. Why any American PR company would do this guys bidding I cannot fathom.

  • Stev84

    Russia doesn’t need more births. The birth rate isn’t really lower than in comparable countries. They need less deaths. Especially the male population is drinking itself to death. The life expectancy is ridiculously low for an industrialized country. If they could raise that to normal levels, their population would be relatively stable.

  • http://AMERICAblog.com/ John Aravosis
  • johndesalvio

    In other words, gay people are preventing straight people from having babies? Riiiight…

  • johndesalvio

    Let us know when your IQ reaches double digits.

  • Thom Allen

    Poor confused bigot-troll. you haven’t a clue.

  • Moderator3

    Bye.

  • sweandr

    Of course, typical anti-white genocidal pigs to decline an opportunity to discuss and debate, because you know that 1) you’ll lose, and 2) you don’t have anything to say to begin with. NOTHING justifies genocide, you know this, yet this is what people like you push for.

    Disgusting, I hope you all rot.

  • Moderator3

    You have made your point. Now move on to something else.

  • sweandr

    Are you suggesting that there is something wrong with trying to fight for the survival of my race? You disgusting genocidal pig. Look at what you’re writing, you’re saying that we whites should not exist in the future. How brainwashed can you be?

  • sweandr

    Disgusting genocidal pig.

  • sweandr

    The person who wrote this article obviously has absolutely no idea what Putin is talking about, and what depopulation means. Or, said person KNOWS what depopulation means, but promotes massmigration of non whites into white countries.

    If the european people, the white race, caucasians, or WHATEVER you want to call us, is to survive, then yes, we DO need less homosexuality, we DO need less immigration and we DO need higher fertility rates. Anyone who does not agree is reponsible for promoting genocide on the white race.

  • chris10858

    … and it seems for the most part, the Russian people themselves are complicit in his crimes. What then does it say about the Russian people?

  • http://www.rebeccamorn.com/mind BeccaM

    One of the reasons it’s gays being targeted in Russia is because there are radical fundamentalist Christian wingnuts in every 1st world country who simply love what’s happening over there.

    We’ve even got them here in America — from David Duke to Bryan Fischer to Maggie Gallagher — crowing happily about what Russia has been doing. Openly saying that’s what we should do here.

    Sadly, propaganda doesn’t need to be true at all to do its work and accomplish its goals.

  • Phil

    OK. Fearless Leader wins the Boris Badunov award for human rights….

  • JPeron

    Good to see Krugman caught up on the birth rate issue. I covered that two years ago at Huffington Post.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/james-peron/are-gays-and-divorces-des_b_1114654.html

  • MK ULTRA

    Putin may claim anything he wants, the fact is that Russian brutes have foolishly documented their crimes and posted them all over the internet.
    It would be smart to make sure these videos are spread throughout mainstream media, that the general public is exposed to them as often as possible.
    These videos are traumatizing enough, but there are also ones where Russian skinheads brutally murder people on camera. That is the New Russia, and that’s the Russia the world should see.

  • Anonymous

    They’ve already spoken through their actions. McDonald’s and Coke sell poison and exploit cheap labor. NBC has already “reported” on the gay rights issue – but put a negative spin on it, blaming people for protesting. The IOC wants to give 3rd world countries a “chance” to host, but are really after cheap labor. The laws of these countries are never called into question. They sell to the highest bidder – athletes have been murdered before and they never reflected on what went wrong.
    I really hope the radiation clears up by 2020 in Tokyo.

  • http://www.americablog.com/ Naja pallida

    Why? Because the IOC would never admit to being wrong. They’ve turned being on the wrong side of political history into a sport in itself.

  • JayRandal

    I don’t understand WHY the Olympic Games still going to be held in Russia? Unless boycotted the nations of the world are tacitly condoning persecution of Gays in Russia. For myself I will NOT watch
    even one minute of news coverage of Olympic Games there. I will NOT buy any products of sponsors
    of Olympics.

  • Tom in Lazybrook

    This is, by far, your best post on this subject yet. Bravo!

  • jomicur

    And when adding race to the mix doesn’t get him what he wants, he’ll try something else. At a guess, I’d imagine he’ll be echoing Nienstadt’s rubbish about Satan. Hey, whatever works, right? Politics is the art of the possible, and our new Vlad the Impaler is demonstrating that inflaming his country against LGBT people works for him. May his carbonized bones rot in hell.

  • Thom Allen

    Putin has just solved the problem of anit-LGBTQ hate for us. It’s brilliant. Since we;re now officially “depopulators” the answer is simple. We should ban together in groups of 10,000 or so and move to areas like Russia, Poland, several Afrivan states, most of the Middle East, the Southern states and settle there. In time, we’ll depopulate them of gay h8ting straights and then – - problem solved. Thsnk you, Comrade Rats Putin.

  • silas1898

    The Government could give them all that nice land around Hanford, WA.

  • FLL

    So-called “white nationalist” websites in the U.S. are awash with comments from some of the more fundamentalist Xtian commenters who want to move to Russia. The option for the other white nationalists (who are not necessarily fundie Xtians) is some sort of “Northwest Option,” whereby they move to parts of Idaho, Montana, Wyoming and western Washington State. It sounds like “News of the Weird,” but there it is.

  • Monoceros Forth

    Exactly what I was thinking. This talk must surely be calculated to the right-wing nationalists, not only in Russia. It’s a clear hint that the forces at work behind this wave of persecution are darker and deeper than they might look at a cursory glance, and that comparisons to ’30s Germany aren’t as hyperbolic and inapt as they’re made out to be.

  • FLL

    Putin thinks that being a major nuclear power entitles his regime to host international sports events. It doesn’t. No country is so entitled. If you want the prestige of hosting an international sports event like the Olympics or the World Cup, you make your case to the world community.

  • FLL

    Putin is now adding a racial motivation to his agenda. He is being none too subtle in suggesting that non-white populations are out-populating white populations, and he is claiming that his anti-gay agenda is Russia is part of an effort to reverse that population decline among white populations. You know, black soccer players from Britain have complained about (among other things) Russian sports fans showing up at soccer games in Russia wearing Ku Klux Klan masks. I wonder if one of the faces under those masks is Pootie himself.

  • UncleBucky

    Boys and girls. This is fascism. In probably the first years BEFORE you-know-who took over in Germany. Or given the violence, the years between ’35 and ’45 when the thugs thought they could do anything and not get caught.

    ONLY. This is Russia. With nukes. With a HUGE back area called Siberia. With nukes. Did I say nukes?

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