The government shutdown and the GOP’s slow-motion impeachment of Barack Obama

We’re hours away from Republicans shutting down most of the federal government, other than “essential” services like the military, due to the Tea Party faction that controls the GOP demanding that the President defund Obamacare, “or else.”

What we’re witnessing is part of a larger Republican strategy to take down President Obama.  Call it the Republicans’ “slow motion impeachment” of the President.

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Republicans are afraid of an actual impeachment

Despite the grandstanding of the more extreme members of the House GOP majority, they know full well that any actual attempt (currently) to impeach President Barack Obama is doomed to failure and would be a political disaster for the party.

If nothing else, they’d never collect enough Senate Democrats for the required 2/3 super-majority for conviction under the Constitution’s rules governing impeachment proceedings.

So the House Republicans will talk about it. Stroke their chins and nod thoughtfully when uneducated wild-eyed constituents bring it up during town hall meetings. Right-wing loonies and rodeo clown has-beens like Glenn Beck will advocate for it.

But it’s not going to happen. House Republicans know that actually voting on impeachment charges would harm them far more than help. If nothing else, they have the Clinton impeachment debacle as an object lesson.

Former President Bill Clinton speaking (untruthfully) about his  relationship with Monica Lewinsky

Former President Bill Clinton talking (untruthfully) about his relationship with Monica Lewinsky

For those who don’t remember the history, Independent Counsel Ken Starr was appointed by U.S. Attorney General Janet Reno in response to GOP demands that alleged White House misdeeds be investigated. It was essentially a years-long inquisition. A combination open-ended fishing expedition and witch hunt. Starr investigated — and found no evidence of wrongdoing — in a wide variety of supposed Clinton ‘crimes,’ including improper firing of White House travel agents (permitted), alleged misuse of FBI files (didn’t happen), alleged misconduct by Bill Clinton during a sexual harassment case filed by Paula Jones (settled out of court), Whitewater land deals (the Clintons lost money), Troopergate (unfounded), and the suicide of Vince Foster (which was just the tragic suicide of a clinically depressed man).

Unfortunately for Clinton, it was the Paula Jones matter that got him in trouble, because in the course of giving depositions on the case, he lied about having an affair with Monica Lewinsky. Lying to investigators is a serious matter. Technically, it’s a crime. However, as we’ve learned, a Director of National Intelligence (James Clapper) can lie under oath to Congress about a vital matter of national security and illegal surveillance, and nothing comes of it. Why? Politics.

Republicans have never accepted the legitimacy of the Obama presidency

It should come as no surprise to regular readers of AMERICAblog that many Republicans have never accepted the legitimacy of the Obama presidency. They’ve been cooking polls to make themselves and their policies seem more popular than they are. When the overwhelming majority of legitimate mainstream polls say their GOP candidates are going to get trounced, they deny the polls are accurate. When they lose elections, they cry fraud, and if there’s any way to tie up the election results in court, they’ll do so.

The Democrats, whatever their many and manifest flaws, don’t do this. Crooked Democratic ballot box shenanigans pretty much ended with Chicago Mayor Richard Daley. Democrats don’t need to cheat. Republican candidates and policies are unpopular enough, all the Dems really need to do is turn out enough legitimate voters.

Which is, of course, why the Republicans are pulling out all the stops to prevent Democrat-voting demographics from being able to cast a ballot. Their claims it’s because there’s rampant fraud are absolutely bogus.

Barack Obama's long-form birth certificate

Barack Obama’s long-form birth certificate

Everyone is familiar with the ridiculous “birther” conspiracy theories about Barack Obama. Anybody who isn’t as loony as Orly Taitz or ego-maniacal as Donald Trump knows those allegations are total rubbish. Unfounded. Ridiculous. Would not last ten seconds in a legitimate court of law. Nevertheless, the persistence of this meme is an important insight into the psyche of the political opposition.

Birtherism, along with other lies — such as referring to Obama as a Nazi/Communist/Socialist and/or secret Muslim — plus the constant lies about Obamacare “death panels” and the like are how the GOP leaders and their wingnut media lackeys keep the rubes both afraid and entertained. While Louie Gohmert and Michelle Bachman and Sarah Whatshername might actually believe the nonsense crossing their pouty, poxy lips, some ‘serious’ Republicans will dance around with birther language, but they don’t buy the snake oil they’re peddling.

The House GOP’s “Christmas List” revealed

While I was researching the post, “Is the GOP finally imploding?“, I tracked down what was referred to in some stories as the House GOP’s “Christmas List” of demands for allowing a debt ceiling and continuing resolution bill to pass. The National Review obtained a leaked copy of the GOP’s demands, in outline form. I’m going to list it here in its entirety, with particular emphasis and formatting, plus a few links and in-line comments, so you can see if the same things jump out at you as they did for me:

  • One Year Debt Limit Increase: Not a dollar amount increase, but suspending the debt limit until the end of December 2014. Similar to what we did earlier this year. Want the year long to align with the year delay of Obamacare. (Because the hostages need to be back on schedule to be retaken, of course.)
  • One Year Obamacare delay. (Just like the Bush tax cut extension, a delay fully intended to become permanent. Meanwhile, millions go without health insurance. Plus pre-existing condition people like me currently getting subsidized insurance through the temporary high-risk pool end up uninsured again, because there’s no provision to keep funding it.)
  • Tax Reform Instructions: Similar to a bill we passed last fall, laying out from Ryan Budget broad principles for what tax reform should look like. Gives fast track authority for tax reform legislation. (In other words, use the debt ceiling and continuing resolution bills to force enactment of a GOP dream-budget which never would make it past the Senate, much less avoid an Obama veto.)
  • Energy and regulatory reforms to promote economic growth: Includes pretty much every jobs bill we have passed this year and last Congress. All of these policies have important positive economic effects. (‘Every jobs bill’? That would be NONE. The only thing resembling a jobs bill passing Congress since 2009 was the stimulus — which the GOP opposed.)
  • Energy provisions: Keystone Pipeline, Coal Ash regulations, Offshore drilling, Energy production on federal lands, EPA Carbon regulations
  • Regulatory reform: REINS Act, Regulatory process reform, Consent decree reform, Blocking Net Neutrality (Okay, I’ll give you all a hint: These last two bullet items are the big ones.)
  • Mandatory Spending Reforms:
    • Mostly from the sequester replacement bills we passed last year (Translation: Make all of the non-defense sequester cuts permanent.)
    • Federal Employee retirement reform (They want to privatize the entire Federal pension program.)
    • Ending the Dodd Frank bailout fund (Because who doesn’t want a repeat of the last economic crash?)
    • Transitioning CFPB funding to Appropriations (Another important one in the point I’m about to make.)
    • Child Tax Credit Reform to prevent fraud (Gotta punish the poor.)
    • Repealing the Social Services Block grant (More GOP hate-the-poor-families meanness.)
  • Health Spending Reforms:
    • Means testing Medicare (Another line item from the Ryan “Zombie-eyed Granny Starver” budget.)
    • Repealing a Medicaid Provider tax gimmick (A ‘gimmick’ that has been used by many states to enable them to help fund Medicaid — the elimination of which would result in millions of people being kicked off the program.)
    • Tort reform (Because it can’t be a GOP bill without this in it.)
    • Altering Disproportion Share Hospitals (More GOP nastiness, in that this is the program where the Feds help with funding for hospitals that receive a disproportionate number of indigent patients)
    • Repealing the Public Health trust fund (Again, if it’s something that helps people stay healthy, apparently the GOP must eliminate it.)

Another measure the House Republicans want to add, of course, is to give employers the right to refuse contraceptive medication insurance coverage for their female employees if the employer believes that God, Cthulhu, or the Flying Spaghetti Monster has told them personally that women are oversexed whores with only the risk of unwanted pregnancy keeping us from sleeping with every man in sight. I’m sure it’s in the Bible somewhere. “And yea, I say verily unto thee: Women are not to be trusted to operate their own loins, for they are foolish and prone to sin. As with the cloven-hoofed and creatures that live in the water but do not have scales, hormone-based contraceptive pills, patches, and creams are an Abomination. But Viagra and Cialis are blessed and totally righteous. — Book of Pfizer 10:23-25″

Okay, quiz time: Those list items I marked with bold and italics above, what do they have in common? Add to it the GOP demand for a ‘conscience exemption’ for following PPACA regulations regarding contraceptive treatment. And what the heck, let’s also add the House GOP’s demand last year to be allowed to defend DOMA before the Supreme Court, even though that is supposed to be entirely up to the Department of Justice to do.

This is all about stripping the Executive of power

What they all represent are moves by House Republicans to strip the Executive of power. Not just any president, but this one in particular. I’ll take them in reverse order.

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The Public Health Trust Fund is run by the Department of Health and Human Services, which chooses from a number of prevention and outreach programs for funding to the tune of about $1 billion last year. Eliminating the funding cancels the programs.

“Transitioning CFPB funding to Appropriations” refers to the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, which the GOP absolutely loathes. It’s currently an independent agency under the Federal Reserve System — which means it’s part of the Treasury Department, which means it’s part of the Executive branch. Pulling its funding back to House Appropriations means, for now, that the GOP could completely gut the entire thing with the stroke of a budgetary pen. Or, if not total gutting, they could direct money to be used only for certain purposes, such as banning funds from being used to protect consumers.

climate change pollution global warming CO2

CO2 via Shutterstock

Now I’m going to lump “Energy Provisions” and “Regulatory Reform” together, because in this context they really are the same thing. The energy provisions are obvious: The House Republicans want those decisions to be removed from the President’s desk and given to them. “EPA carbon regulations” means they want the EPA to be stripped of the ability to regulate greenhouse gases. Keystone XL, off-shore drilling, ‘energy production’ on Federal lands — same thing. Republicans want the decision to be theirs (and to be ‘yes’, obviously).

The REINS Act and ‘regulatory process reform’ go together. I’ll be honest and admit I’d never heard of the REINS Act before now, nor did I know it had been floating around for several years now…and was first proposed by Senator Rand Paul in January 2011. (Surprise!? Not.) House Republicans, joined by four Democrats, even passed it in December 2011 — although of course the Senate never took it up.

Nearly every law passed that doesn’t involve changing a post office building name needs regulations for enactment and enforcement. For example, a law mandating a tax on something will usually need accompanying regulations to determine how and when it’s calculated, reported, collected, what penalties are appropriate for failure to pay, and so on. Or for another example, it’s up to the FDA to write regulations to govern when certain medications can be moved from prescription to over-the-counter.

The 1996 Congressional Review Act granted Congress the ability to override a proposed regulation through joint resolution. (Technically not really a necessary bill, because Congress has had that power all along. But Gingrich and House Republicans wanted to score political points against Clinton. Again.)

Admittedly, one problem — from the Congressional point of view — is that any such regulation-repealing resolution could be vetoed by the President. As a consequence (and also due to Congressional inertia), it’s only been successfully used once, in 2001 when a Department of Labor regulation regarding ergonomics was overruled.

The REINS Act, as written, doesn’t just eliminate the Presidential veto power over regulation-reversing bills. It changes the entire regulatory process so that Congress affirmatively has to approve any major new regulations. And if both the House and Senate do not vote “AYE,” the regulation does not go into effect, period. As bill sponsor Representative Geoff Davis (R-KY) explains it:

“It’s very simple,” he said. “When a rule is scored as a major rule — $100 million or more in cumulative economic impact — instead of it being forced on the American people at the end of the 60-day comment period, it comes back up to Capitol Hill under joint resolution for a stand-alone vote in the House, a stand-alone vote in the Senate, and then must be signed by the president before it can be enforced on the American people.”

As Kristina Costa wrote for the Center for American Progress, there are five terrible details about this proposal (summarizing her points, not entirely quoting):

  • It threatens our Constitutional system of checks and balances.
  • Congress doesn’t have the expertise to evaluate the implementation of every bill it passes.
  • Congress doesn’t have the time to evaluate the implementation of every bill it passes — after all, consider how little work it gets done in a good year, when not completely gridlocked.
  • The REINS Act confuses economic costs with economic effects — for example, an FDA regulation saying GMO food has to be labeled would cross the threshold, even though we’re not talking about something that costs $100m to implement. It merely effects a huge market. Even a change in passport fees would have to receive pro-active Congressional approval.
  • Congress already has the power to oversee and overturn regulations it doesn’t like — it’s just that the bar is set fairly high, and doesn’t require pro-active Congressional action for a regulation to go into effect.

All this isn’t to say I’m totally against Congress taking back some of the power it has let slip over to the Executive, especially in the last century. The power to declare war — or to engage our military forces in conflicts tantamount to war — is one I’d rather see back in Congress, where the Constitution says it belongs.

Why I call this a “slow-motion impeachment”

Ticket for the impeachment of Andrew Jackson

Ticket for the impeachment of Andrew Jackson

However, one reason I’m referring to this strategy on the part of the Republicans as a “slow-motion impeachment” is because none of what they’re proposing for this president came up during the last one’s tenure. When Dubya wanted to go to war, the GOP said, “Of course! And anybody who says otherwise is a cheese-eating traitorous surrender monkey. Now who wants some Freedom Fries?”

I’m also not really a fan of this current President, who I feel often doesn’t exercise the power he does have — legitimately, under the law. But stripping regulatory powers from the Executive would cripple the entire supposedly co-equal branch in ways that would make our system of government all but impossible to continue.

Now couple this with the other measures being proposed: De-funding or delaying the PPACA, and wherever possible, stymie its implementation. Giving Congress direct budgetary control over the CFPB. De-funding programs run by Executive branch agencies and departments. Constantly using the continuing resolution process and the debt ceiling to force the President to accept budgetary priorities he would otherwise veto.

(Okay, don’t get me started on the Simpson-Bowles Cat-food Commission recommendations…that’s grist for a future post, where I’ll demonstrate I don’t have ire just for one of our major parties and its leaders.)

The more important reason for calling this “slow-motion impeachment” is because, thwarted in their other attempts to delegitimize and actually impeach a sitting Democratic president, the GOP’s actions over the last five years have been an unrelenting attempt to make it impossible for this President to do his job. To render him essentially — and actually — powerless.

Everything would, in the GOP’s perfect world, devolve back to them as the House majority party, and to a lesser extent, as a Senate minority capable of stopping anything with just 41 votes. Budgets, continuing resolutions, and the debt ceiling would guarantee frequent bites at the apple, and enable them to force enactment of policies that would otherwise never get past a Dem-majority Senate nor Obama’s veto pen. Executive agencies the Republicans don’t like would have their lawfully granted powers stripped — such as with the EPA being banned from regulating greenhouse gases.

Through budgets and the requirement for Congressional approval for all regulations, Republicans would control the Executive branch, even when not holding the office of President.

Again, I go back to the big picture, and do some comparing and contrasting with the behavior of the Republicans during the last administration. With George W. Bush, they wanted him to be able to go to war at will, to have ‘fast-track’ authority on just about everything, and the GOP never would’ve dreamed of denying the Executive branch the ability to enact regulations.

Now they do. And it’s entirely because they want to take power away from the guy currently occupying the White House, by any means necessary. Because in the eyes of the Republicans, there is no such thing as a legitimately elected Democratic Party President.

If they can’t impeach Obama in actuality, they’ll do it the slow way.


Published professional writer and poet, Becca had a three decade career in technical writing and consulting before selling off most of her possessions in 2006 to go live at an ashram in India for 3 years. She loves literature (especially science fiction), technology and science, progressive politics, cool electronic gadgets, and perfecting Hatch green chile recipes. Fortunately for this last, Becca and her wife currently live in New Mexico. @BeccaMorn

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  • Theresa Menrath

    Wow, what backwater hog trough did you cyphen your news through? Hilarious, not news worthy, dribble!

  • Mike_in_the_Tundra

    You do realize that Obamacare was passed three years ago?

  • film tells all

    You wish. We have Obama on film denying hawaii birth, usa birth, usa citizenship, and stating clearly I AM BORN IN KENYA. So go blow. Propaganda die hard.

  • Blahblah34

    This fairy tale is so backward it is not even funny

  • Tusense96761

    Get a spine GOP impeach this enemy out of our White House, he is a fraud and is destroying our country.

  • Jordan Thompson
  • DC Elle

    You’re insane. I’m a registered independent that has since this past November been so disgusted with the radical statements, accusations and lets not forget the beaten until its deader than dead blame it all on Bush rantings that I wouldn’t piss on a democrat’s head if their hair was on fire. You people are so hung up on your party that you’ve forgotten what is at stake here. All of you make me sick. Our country is in financial ruin, we can’t pay for healthcare, education, or food and are losing our homes. You column writers (I won’t call you journalists because that would elude that you were reporting facts with some sort of responsibility) are heavily to blame. You lead uneducated, uniformed people to believe that one party is evil and the other saintly. People such as yourself have distorted the facts so terribly that Americans don’t know who they should trust and trust the people they shouldn’t.

  • Techi Reanimator

    Sure is allot of hostility in the tone of this article. I lost my job three months ago due to the sagging economy. I am not pointing fingers here but somebody is responsible for this messed up economy and Obama for damn sure has not improved anything in this country. In fact its worse.But some people have their head up Obamas’ ass and can not see, such as the blind person who wrote this article.

  • Mike_in_the_Tundra

    A lot of your claims seemed ridiculously stupid, so I decided to check. The pages were not numbered on the copies I found. I would like to see the copy to which you are making reference. I have suspicions about your integrity. So put up or shut up.

  • Jim

    lol seriously? If you cant find a page number then theres not much else i can do for you.

  • Mike_in_the_Tundra

    You’re going to need to give us a point of reference. I downloaded three copies of the ACA. None of them have page numbers. Can you direct us to the copy you are referencing?

  • Jim

    Your right, i am already paying for insurance which i previously mentioned above. I also pay state taxes (Louisiana) that go toward STATE hospitals which provide FREE care to those who qualify and discounts based on household income. Now im being told i have no choice but to pay for yet another insurance and to top that off, myself and thousands of others lost their job because of the mandates on small business. Whats REALLY scary is its just the beginning.

    Do you even know the full aspect of what your supporting? Any idea what your agreeing to when you sign up?

    Page 58 and 59: The government will have real-time access to an individual’s bank account and will have the authority to make electronic fund
    transfers from those accounts.

    Page 65/section 164: The plan will be subsidized (by the government) for all
    union members, union retirees and for community organizations (such as
    the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now – ACORN).

    Page 203/line 14-15: The tax imposed under this section will not be
    treated as a tax. (How could anybody in their right mind come up with
    that?)

    Page 241 and 253: Doctors will all be paid the same regardless of specialty, and the government will set all doctors’ fees.

    Page 272. section 1145: Cancer hospital will ration care according to the patient’s age.

    Page 317 and 321: The government will impose a prohibition on hospital
    expansion; however, communities may petition for an exception.

    Page 425, line 4-12: The government mandates advance-care planning
    consultations. Those on Social Security will be required to attend an
    “end-of-life planning” seminar every five years. (Death counseling..)

    Page 429, line 13-25: The government will specify which doctors can write an end-of-life order.

    And yet none of it applies to congress, also illegal. Our government hasnt been successful in running anything, just look at our national debt. Do you really think they are capable of running this? Its a joke and its only going to put americans further down the whole. They can sugar coat it and make it all sound great but its those details thats being kept in the closet thats going to come back and bite supporters in the ass.

  • Jim

    How do you get all that from my comment? I cant afford it, Government cant afford it. Its not legal to MAKE me buy ice cream, health insurance is no different. Im not going to buy it and no one else should have to either. So.. does that mean people should just suffer and die? Come on, be serious. We have state funded (charity) hospitals here already, medicaid, medicare, social security. Im all taxed out.

  • http://www.rebeccamorn.com/mind BeccaM

    I don’t like being forced to pay taxes to support a military bigger than the next dozen nations combined. But that’s how the law works. Democracy and living in a constitutional democratic-republic country means I don’t always get what I want.

    And actually unless you’re living off the grid and a total tax cheat, you already WERE paying for health insurance.

    It’s called Medicare and Medicaid.

    Do I object to having to buy insurance through private companies? Sure. That’s the biggest flaw in PPACA. Am I glad those insurance companies can no longer refuse to issue me a policy because, being honest, I put down on an application form that I sometimes need a prescription nose inhaler for hayfever allergies? You bet.

    Do I care that the fact I can finally buy my own insurance after ten years of doing without offends you for some reason? No.

  • Jim

    One could easily say the same for your situation ;)

  • Jim

    What isnt getting discussed is the amount of Jobs being lost from shoving this policy down the throats of small business. Until recent, i “was” a field supervisor for a 1000 acre sweet potato farm in louisiana that during planting employed just over 100 people and during harvest well over 200. Harvest alone lasted more than 6 weeks which put the farm in the way of ACA. Its now been scaled back to a 200 acre operation and 49 employees just to be able to keep the door open. Hours are so low that i had to find other work. Several other small business’s in the area are doing the same thing. Sadly though, its happening all across the country. Big business were granted another year delay while everyone else is laying off, cutting hours and even closing doors for good. Tell me, how is this helpful? This has been made into a R vs D issue but its really not. Its WAY more than that. Neither party have the best of ideas but “this time” the republicans (and most of the ACTUAL public) are able to see the damage that ACA is bringing to the economy.

  • http://www.rebeccamorn.com/mind BeccaM

    That’s a very selfish, self-centered attitude. Don’t you care what happens to your fellow citizens? “Just suffer and die if you can’t buy insurance” — is that your attitude?

    That’s pretty sick.

  • Jim

    So it makes sense to FORCE everyone to pay taxes for an insurance they cant afford and many dont want because YOU cant get the coverage you need? An insurance company has the right to take on whoever they want just like McDonalds has the right to refuse service to whoever they want. Thats where the word FREE comes in. No Government will ever FORCE me to pay for healthcare insurance. Its not legal or logical. If you want to pay for Insurance WILLINGLY, then go for it. Expecting everyone else to is ridiculous.

  • Tyler Ayers

    You mean the 80% of Americans who DON’T. Applying spin and altering numbers? You must work for the “elitist” clowns that are all going to jail soon. Enjoy the karma that’s coming for you!

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    That works

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    pppffffttt

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    Nobody wants except for the 80% of Americans who do.

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    The sky is falling, the sky is falling, run, run

  • stargazer914

    Thank you! Intelligent, refreshing, COMMON SENSE! The Republicans are scary! They’re not interested in the “public” only the rich and their own self-serving interests. This country was founded on principals of gold by men of principal and compassion and look what we have become! How sad. The U.S.A. (Unmotivated Sheep of America) need to tear their eyes away from their electronic doo-dads and who won what stupid game and start paying attention to the idiocy our “employees” (i.e. the government) are perpetuating. This is not only our future-it is the future of our children.

  • Torrance

    I guess I’m a drive-by troll, too. I HATE Obamacare and it’s forced mandate.

  • Torrance

    NOBODY wants it who will be stuck paying inflated premiums and fines for NOT paying for it. Also, I checked out the website yesterday, trying to register for an exemption; website barely worked and NOWHERE could I find what to click on to apply for the exemption. It’s all bullshit.

  • Tyler Ayers

    You smoke crack, Obama shut down the government because he didn’t get his Obamacare passed that NOBODY WANTS.

  • ahuman

    It really doesn’t seem like either party is doing what is best for
    anyone other than themselves. Now we see the one of problems
    with a 2 party system. Without wolf-pack.com or some other
    finance reform these people are just going to keep dragging us into
    the guttter.

    I got burned voting for Obama twice. I was expecting we
    would change to a country that follows the rules that they impose on
    others. 2 terms of more wars, more spying, more fear and I’m going back to independent candidates.
    These two parties are lost, but I will agree that the GOP is worse.
    They are the worst of us.

    Just reading the conspiracy theory crap and pure fear coming from
    the comments of GOP supporters in the comments of this article proove
    my point. It’s funny to think Lincoln was a republican president,
    but the parties were different back then and have flip flopped
    idiologies a few times in the past.

    How can you be against getting people health care and call
    yourself a human, try watching a family go bankrupt when their father
    gets cancer and tell them they should just let their dad die because
    you don’t think the government should help make health care
    affordable. You don’t mind the government building your roads,
    controlling your electricity prices to keep them low, giving you
    cheap clean water, making airplanes safe, police, fire departments,
    etc.. You need to think before you open your clap traps about this
    or any other topic and turn off fox news.

  • hairstylist67

    Obama is not going to give on his health care bill in any way . During this this government shut . With Obama he has said he will veto any ideal helping people get back to work during this shut down . his votes can be over rode By votes . It sounds like Obama is not taking any blame for this shut down He is just as much to blame . I think it is time to impeach Obama . I think if Obama was willing to work with congress & the rest of the government & for the people the government shut down would not of happen .

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcrEqIpi6sg Moderator4

    Yes, he is banned.

  • pappyvet

    The real problem Sis is that you are not “One with the body of Landru.”

    I must admit that people of Ms.McManus point of view have evolved significantly.
    500 years ago,weights were attached to you and you were thrown into a deep pool. If you sank,you were guilty,if you floated you were not guilty.[at least on that particular day.]

  • pappyvet

    Phew! Thanks for clearing that up

  • Badgerite

    Good post. What’s more, I think they want the Affordable Care Act delayed for a year so they have the misconceptions and lies about it to run on in the mid terms. They want total power soooooo badly. And it is so obvious. I could have told the public in 2010, you are electing people with an agenda that is kept hidden. But it is a real agenda and it will have consequences that are not good. What’s more, they rewarded the party that repealed Glass Steagal and pretty much owned the 2008 economic meltdown and the need for a subsequent public bailout of Wall Street with more power. What could go wrong?

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    Does he remind you of a certain cracked-pot Russian?

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    Checked your profile you sickening anti gay troll. You have no credibility here.

  • http://www.rebeccamorn.com/mind BeccaM

    His comment history would indicate Dan’s quite obsessed with it himself.

  • http://www.rebeccamorn.com/mind BeccaM

    Wow. The dude is obsessed with semen.

    Anyway, not to worry. I’ve been assured he’s gone.

  • BillFromDover

    And somehow, were supposed to take the word of someone working for the insurance industry (motto: a buck in your pocket is a buck not in ours) as an expert on insurance for the disadvantaged?

  • BillFromDover

    “her lack of grammar and written language skills”

    A badge indicative of and worn proudly by by baggers.

  • http://www.rebeccamorn.com/mind BeccaM

    lol. Sorry ’bout that. But hey, if you really want to, feel free.

    Me, I didn’t tell her to ‘shut up’, but I’ll fully cop to being patronizing as all hell in my remark above. It was a struggle not to critique her lack of grammar and written language skills.

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    Same here

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    Another, 10 comments drive by gay hating troll. Check the profile and x this creep.

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    Yep, Texas is a perfect example.

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    Republicans are political terrorists and now, more than ever, a threat to the nation and democracy.

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    On his head.

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    Oh please, you poor put upon martyr. FYI it gives me great pleasure to know that you are taxed to pay for my Medicare.

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    No, we don’t want to listen to your BS. Bye!

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    Opps. I just had to edit my comment after telling Mz troll to shut the F up.

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    How about shutting down that ignorant mouth 6 comments drive by troll.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcrEqIpi6sg Moderator4

    No, she is not.

  • http://www.rebeccamorn.com/mind BeccaM

    Thanks for your pithy rebuttal, Margie. You do know there are other places to visit and read on the Internet if you don’t like how I’ve exercised my 1st Amendment rights here, yes?

    You’ll probably find RedState(dot)com much more to your liking. Lots of folks there who will agree with you on just about everything. That way you won’t have to stretch your comfort zone or engage in critical thinking to consider alternative opinions or ideas.

    You see, here at AmericaBlog, we’re mostly a bunch of progressives and liberals — some Democrats, many not (including me) — who don’t believe that ordering people you don’t agree with to “shut up” is the way to have civilized discourse. Good day to you.

  • http://www.americablog.com/ Naja pallida

    Thanks for proving Becca’s point.

  • Margie McManus

    The only thing that’s legitimate about Obama is that everything he said he’d do if elected was a lie. He’s not done a single one, not one. Remember when he said this;” the N.S.A. not spying on everyday Americans.” Well we now know this was and is a lie, they are still spying on Millions of us, even during the shutdown. He’s always making these smart #@$ remarks like,” America I have two words for you Raptor drones, you’ll never see them coming”. What did he mean by this remark?? and Like this one,” To the far right who think I have a secret agenda, your right I do.” I don’t feel sorry for him at all just putting fuel on the flames.

  • Margie McManus

    Shut down Obamacare, by any means possible.

  • Margie McManus

    Becca Morn, please. shut up already. Are you sure your not a P.R. spokesman for Obama???

  • http://www.rebeccamorn.com/mind BeccaM

    Aye… and as Rachel Maddow remarked last night, a government shutdown was the Republicans’ “Plan A” all along.

  • ArthurH

    Funny! A poll taken on Election Day 1992 by The Gallup Organization found those voting for Perot would have voted 54% for Clinton and 44% for Bush if Perot had not been on the ballot.

  • http://www.rebeccamorn.com/mind BeccaM

    I concur, Trish: The Democrats do share much of the blame for letting things get this bad.

  • http://www.rebeccamorn.com/mind BeccaM

    I don’t have ‘free Medicare.’ I am a participant in the temporary ‘high-risk’ insurance pool because no insurance company would write me a policy, denying me coverage because I have the pre-existing conditions of migraine headaches and hay-fever allergies.

    I have an entire folder full of rejection letters, listing those two reasons as to why Blue Cross, Health Net, and a whole host of other insurance companies refused to cover me, starting in 2003 and running up until PPACA made subsidized guaranteed issue insurance available starting in 2011.

    I am PAYING for that insurance, Lauren. I am paying for it directly through my premiums and through the federal taxes I pay each year. However, that program goes away if PPACA goes away.

    You might want to reexamine your preconceptions and prejudices.

  • basenjilover

    quick get out your “Trollspray” before he scuttles into cyberdom

  • Rob

    There’s a lot more to the analysis than medical insurance.

  • Jenny

    I lost brain cells reading this. Or maybe it’s just the marijuana fumes in the air from Colorado. Or maybe it’s because this story doesn’t run smoothly and it’s the reason why my head feels weird. Or maybe it’s stress cause I worked in Medical Insurance and I know the ins and outs and how Obama care needs a lot of work before it is completely implemented. Maybe it’s because I know the Republicans are working their butts off – cause they know what’s up- and I read a bunch of “Republicans are bad guys” comments it makes me really want to grab all of your EOBS and Medical Bills and sit down with anyone who doesn’t get it and have a long, long, conversation. But if you want to listen to any one who doesn’t do that job for a living, go ahead, it’s America. I’ll go take a tylenol now. Bye!.

  • Lauren G

    You lost me when you started ranting about the free Medicare and how you need it for yourself and your already existing condition…obamacare shouldn’t be forced on the nation…this is suppose to be a free country. Sorry about your health situation but you can’t defend everything Obama’s done since being in office and the even worse position he’s put our country in morally and financially just because you deluded yourself into thinking the only way to get Medicare is if it’s in a free, communist-like fashion.

  • Trish

    This article is so succinct and scary. Let me thank the writer for educating me on the issues. As a first generation immigrant, I came to this country admiring this great nation and it’s democracy. The stuff that is happening today seems like a third-world country behavior and this is sad. The fact is the Democrats share some of the blame. They have not been vocal enough as a minority in the house to expose these republican frauds in congress. The republican minority in congress during the Clinton administration and the first two years in the Obama administration showed us how to operate as a minority even when it hurts the country as a whole just to have their way. The Democrats should be calling for mass protest in order to support the President and the people he is trying to help. What has Mr. Obama done to deserve so much hate that they are even willing to bring the American people down and this great nation?

  • http://www.newmillgay.com/ The_Fixer

    I had flagged the above comment, just in case it wasn’t seen.

    And yes, there is value in seeing what kind of disgusting things that some of the trolls will throw at us.

  • rmthunter

    Add in that the official Republican practice is now to ignore any reality that doesn’t fit the basic pattern: “We represent the American people, therefore any Democrat who becomes president does so illegitimately. Polls are all biased, elections that go against us are rigged, and judges that make decisions we don’t like are partisan hacks.”

    There is only one reality, and it’s what the right wing says it is.

  • Indigo

    That is a totally lame remark, it doesn’t even alliterate properly.

  • Indigo

    The Right Wing Terrorist message has not changed a bit. The wording keeps shape-shifting but the message is unmistakeable . . . “He’s blaaack!”

  • lynchie

    He was also heard talking to the disciples. Hey I can see your house from here

  • lynchie

    Oh the brilliance of a sixteen year old teen in the basement of his parents calling for meatloaf.

  • lynchie

    Oh so he is like GW who stole the election

  • lynchie

    Go back to the bat cave. Perot got 20 % because GHW was an incompetent boob.

  • lynchie

    Oh goodie you made your 50 cents for your brilliant but completely wrong post.

  • http://www.rebeccamorn.com/mind BeccaM

    I actually doubt ‘Dan’ has comment privileges here anymore. I do know that John likes to leave such comments up as examples of what the opposition has to offer.

    Which is rather pitiful, when you think about it. See how quickly ‘Dan’ devolved into crudity and crass/obscene insults?

  • HelenRainier

    It has already been passed. It is now a law. The Supreme Court has ruled that it is constitutional. What about that don’t you get?

  • http://www.newmillgay.com/ The_Fixer

    I think it’s time for a moderator to get involved here.

  • cole3244

    gay curious i see, or maybe a person of the clergy, inform me and yourself.

  • cole3244

    obviously the crazies aren’t only in the house, heil gop comrade.

  • Krusher

    Considering that polling is 80% against them, I don’t see how the R’s can pretend that theyy are the only true representatives of the will of “the people.” Perhaps they represent the will of their gerrymandered districts, but that is hardly the same thing.

  • Krusher

    Aside from childish name-calling, do you have a point?

  • BillFromDover

    the Earth is round and millions of years old.

    Way, way too much info in a sentence fragment for your average bagger to grasp.

    Now ya are only confusing him.

  • BillFromDover

    Even wonder why the hell the fetich these perverts have with sex and little boys?

    Yo Dan,

    Still studying for the priesthood?

  • BillFromDover

    “I suggest that you should learn something about politics first.”

    Why bother when he can be spoon-fed his beliefs by the likes of Glenn, Rush and Sean?

    What could possibly be easier… dealing with facts and the truth?

  • BillFromDover

    Did you send a bagger to congress, by any chance?

  • Thom Allen

    Your mom taught that class in Bible Camp 30 years ago. And it included a laboratory session for hands-on practiCUM.

  • Thom Allen

    So that makes Palin an even bigger bastard. She quit eleventy-teen colleges, a governorship, Alaska itself, Fox news, thinking clearly, seeing Russia from her porch and so mush more.

  • Thom Allen

    They don’t, they burn them instead.

  • Thom Allen

    Did you have trouble memorizing that Fox Entertainment News talking point?

  • Jafafa Hots

    What you mean the people “intended” to vote for bush but pushed the wrong button?

    People who voted for Perot voted for Perot because they INTENDED to vote for Perot and intended to vote AGAINST BUSH.

    I know, because I knew many of them including some of my state’s local organizers for Perot.

  • Jafafa Hots

    Hey – whattaya know – a bigot doesn’t like Obama.

    I’m shocked.

  • AnitaMann

    Aw I’ll give him a break. Whatever outfit pays trolls like that to post does not pay them enough to come up with cogent arguments, or to make sense. It’s what, 25 cents a post?

  • AnitaMann

    I’m confused. the guy makes it sound like semen drinking is a bad thing.

  • AnitaMann

    This is why right wingers should never be in charge of writing history books.

  • http://www.newmillgay.com/ The_Fixer

    Funny, the Republicans are all about the theory of the “Unitary Executive” as long as it’s a Republican who is the executive. It becomes considerably more flexible of a doctrine if it’s a Democratic chief executive holding office.

    The current Republican strategists are keeping their options open, trying every trick in the book to make the current president impotent until they think they can win back the office (and they’re trying every trick in the voter-suppression handbook in an effort to make that happen). They’re still pissed that Mr. 47% didn’t win. This gives them a bit of fuel (bile) to keep in doing what they’ve been doing.

    It’s obvious that they have a very “special” interpretation of the Constitution (look at the decisions that Republican justices have given us, and what the lawmakers want to give us in the way of laws). They feel that they are so very close to having a lock on this whole process that all they need to do is keep this president from doing what they don’t like, and bide their time until they can install one of their own into the office.

    Which means it’s way past time for the Democratic politicians to start playing for keeps and reminding the voters just what the Republican legislators were responsible for doing in the last couple of budget negotiation sessions. Don’t ever let the public forget it, and maybe they’ll have half a chance at getting rid of some of the Republican loonies. In spite of jerrymandering and voter suppression tactics.

  • Monoceros Forth

    No, no, she likes to suck dock. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sorrel) It’s got a kind of pleasant sour taste.

  • roy

    ugh…get the budget but forget obamacare..seriously…im supporting a shutdown if it means obamacare doesn’t go through

  • http://www.rebeccamorn.com/mind BeccaM

    Thanks Jim, although I wouldn’t call it ‘succinct’ exactly.

  • devlzadvocate

    REMINDER: If you have a conservative boss you have to call in tomorrow and say you’ve been called to serve on a death panel.

  • Anthony Doe

    brainwashed liberal loonies

  • pappyvet

    I’m still grasping with your wheremom likes to go down and suck duck?
    And you enjoy the same activity? I have nothing against wheremoms or wherewolves or the odd whererabbit but attempting to consume duck with a straw seems to me a rather labor intensive way to enjoy the meal.
    Please Advise ! ;]

  • pappyvet

    If they were meant for Bush,they would have been cast for Bush.

  • Monoceros Forth

    I think it’s just hilarious how right-wingers are still beating the drum of fiscal responsibility. Hilarious, but also a bit inexplicable. I honestly thought that after eight years of Bush the Lesser turning a surplus into a gigantic deficit the GOP would never again be able to pretend that they’re fiscally responsible but damned if they don’t still do it.

    Maybe it’s the GOP secret to success. Keep insisting without wavering that a fantasy is really the truth and people will start to believe it.

  • FLL

    When I provided you with the executive summary of the U.S. Constitution in my reply above, I swear that I had not yet read this comment. Honest. But now that I’ve read the comment directly above this, all the more reason to go over the executive summary of the U.S. Constitution, since you’re obviously too busy to read the Constitution itself:

    “You can follow any religion you want, but no one’s going to kiss your ass.”

    Now please commit that to memory. And don’t tell me that I’m being humorless and nagging. Nothing could be further from the truth:

    Q: Why doesn’t Jesus eat M&Ms?
    A: Because they fall through the holes in his hands.

  • pappyvet

    The federal budget deficit for that fiscal year 2009, which began on October 1, 2008, was already $1.2 trillion. President Obama’s additional ’09 spending added another $200 billion to the deficit, bringing the total to $1.412 trillion. Given the enormity of the financial crisis and the depth of the recession, there weren’t many other options on the table. Add Shrub’s two wars into the mix and there you go.

    But since then, deficit spending has dropped precipitously. Why? Chiefly because President Obama signed the Statutory Pay-As-You-Go Act in February, 2010, which mandates that new spending be offset with spending cuts or new revenue. Yes, a Democratic president and a Democratic Congress passed this legislation. Guess how many congressional Republicans voted for the law. Zero. Not one.
    Consequently,even the Wall Street Journal reported that the president is responsible for the lowest government spending growth in 60 years.
    Those are facts. Look the word up. I know they annoy bigots like you to no end and by the way,the Earth is round and millions of years old.

  • FLL

    So why didn’t the nation punish Obama for “not reaching out to the GOP” in 2010? Obama and congressional Democrats did just fine in 2012. Why should Obama kiss their ass? He won. Do you really think George W. Bush was interested in reaching out to Democrats after the big congressional win by Democrats in 2006? No, he wasn’t. Republican hypocrites. It’s time for the Republicans to stop expecting the world to kiss their ass. By the way, that reminds me of the executive summary of the U.S. Constitution. You know, it’s an executive summary for people who are too busy to read the entire text of the Constitution:

    “You can follow any religion you want, but no one’s going to kiss your ass.”

    Now haven’t I saved you a lot of time with that handy executive summary? Your welcome. What would you do without me?

  • pappyvet

    LMAO ! And I get complaints for saying that the repubes are filled with hatred,lies and poison.”If it keeps on rainin’,levees gonna break.”
    A whole lot of wingnut in those comments,nothing American though.

  • PeteWa

    lol

  • Jim Olson

    Thank you, Becca, for this succinct summary of the GOP plan.

  • Monoceros Forth

    “Had 9/11 happened under Obama, it would be much like his response after Fort Hood and Boston attack”

    You mean he would actually have caught the guy who did it? Lil’ Bush didn’t do too well at that.

  • http://www.rebeccamorn.com/mind BeccaM

    Oh, I needed that laugh. Thanks John.

  • http://AMERICAblog.com/ John Aravosis

    Senator Cruz, I’ve asked you before not to post in the comments after you’ve been drinking. Enough of the semen fixation, it’s getting embarrassing.

  • Dan

    He stole them because those voted were meant for Bush 1. And he was a b-stard since he quit his campaign and only to reappear months later.

  • Monoceros Forth

    No, that’s me. I’m the one who likes that. Rather a lot, in fact.

  • http://www.rebeccamorn.com/mind BeccaM

    It’s also funny to read that Perot ‘stole’ the votes that were legitimately and legally cast for him.

  • Dan

    Well your wh-re mom likes to go down and suck d–k.

  • Monoceros Forth

    Thanks. It’s been a downcast day and I needed the laugh.

  • Monoceros Forth

    Yeah. In a Clinton presidency I’m sure we would have seen, among other things, the insane charge that she and her husband got to their high offices by murdering their political enemies. Also a lot of the conspiracy theories about supposed Democratic fixing of elections would work for Democrat, e.g. the notion that they’ve been bringing in illegal immigrants to vote for them.

  • Dan

    That is fact. Clinton won in 1992 only because Ross Perot stole 20% of the vote.
    And the corrupt stuff about his wife are true. Difference was Bill reached out to the GOP after the 1994 Midterms. Obama never did after 2010.

  • http://www.rebeccamorn.com/mind BeccaM

    Well, consider what happened to the last Clinton to actually sit in the Oval Office.

    Starting with the 1992 presidential election, many Republicans felt Clinton did not win legitimately because Ross Perot grabbed a whole lot of votes that would’ve otherwise gone for George H.W. Bush.

    Hate-talk radio was full of vitriol and accusations that Clinton not only didn’t win fairly, he and his wife were corrupt and Bill Clinton was manifestly unfit to be America’s President. That was their narrative. It led to many standoffs with the GOP-controlled House, the investigations I mentioned above, and ultimately an impeachment over a ridiculously trivial matter.

    Just my opinion, but I don’t think it would’ve mattered which Democrat won the presidency in 2008 or 2012, or by how much. This is how the Republicans roll now.

  • Monoceros Forth

    Dude, Bush Lite hasn’t been President for years now. Stop dwelling on the poor man’s blunders.

    By the way, a “state senator” is different from a “U.S. senator”. If you’re going to criticize someone’s political accomplishments I suggest that you should learn something about politics first.

  • pappyvet

    The GOP believes in a balanced approach. Like the Roman Arena. The lions had all the teeth and the slaves had all the blood. When they look at us,they do not see lions.

  • Monoceros Forth

    I genuinely wonder if it would have been this bad if Sen. Clinton or any other Democrat had been elected President. I think the GOP had made up its mind already that if they lost the presidential election they were simply going to regard the Democratic winner as illegitimate no matter who it was. The whole Republican pose is that they are only true representatives of the will of the people; it follows that if a Democrat wins an election he or she must have cheated somehow. Because it was Obama who won the accusations of cheating took a particularly racist form but I suspect that had Clinton been elected the accusations would have been just as vicious, only from a different direction.

  • Bill_Perdue

    The Republicans partisan opposition to Obama is irony personified. In spite of the fact that much of their partisan opposition is based on racism, much like the racist attacks by the Clintons in 2007-08, Obama doggedly follows the Republicans political lead on most questions.

    What happens to Obama and his presidency of no concern to working people. He, as much as any Republican is an enemy of working people.

    He, and they, protect instead of prosecute polluters.

    He and they are mad dog warmongers who torture and murder their political and military opponents as a matter of course.

    He and they attack the Bill of Rights with FISA, NDAA the Paytriot Act, NSA, the FBI and CIA and by the persecution of heroes like Chelsea Manning and Snowden.

    He and they attack entitlements like Social Security and Medicare and attack unions, busing them and exporting union jobs.

    Far more leftists call for his impeachment than rightists, judging by the comments at HuffPo, AlterNet and other sites. my only concern is that I think Biden would be even more reckless, but that’s just a guess,

  • Matt Rogers

    I think Obama has been a fairly successful President. He took out Osama bin Laden, significantly weakened Al Qaeda in the Middle East, initiated diplomacy with Iran, introduced a waiver of NCLB that 42 states and DC have taken advantage of and 3 more states have applied for, reduced the deficit by more than half, and reformed federal policy to treat LGBT Americans much more fairly. As to his experience, he was also a professor at one of the most renowned law schools in the US for 10 years. His legal knowledge has contributed to his success as President.

  • Dave of the Jungle

    You may be a thoughtless propaganda dupe and not realize it.

  • Jafafa Hots

    You could go on for hours about how he has been “a total failure from the start,”, yet you don’t mention a single thing. Not ONE thing.
    *I* can mention several valid criticisms of this President, and I’m not even on your side of this issue.

    That tells me you are just echoing the empty whines played back from memory from the TV pundit’s you’ve been paying too much attention to.

  • brian

    What’s missing from your piece is any accountability of course from the Presidents total failure as president. Like always, it’s the GOP’S fault… I could go on for hours on how this Presidents has been a total failure from the start. Every policy has been the wrong policy at the wrong time in history. Remember, he had no experience other then a state senator and it shows!

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