Translated video shows Russian vigilantes torturing kidnapped gay 15 y.o.

New video has emerged of a 15 year old Russian boy, from a small village, apparently being kidnapped by anti-gay vigilantes, then bullied and basically tortured, on film. They then published the video on Russian social media sites.

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Keep in mind as you read this story that this kid is only 15 years old.  Imagine going through this at the age of 15.

The boy’s attackers have been kidnapping gay teens for a while now in Russia, videoing the crime, then posting them online – and have been doing so with impunity up until only a few days ago, when news of this ongoing atrocity hit papers in the West, and the Russians finally realized that the serial kidnapping and torturing of teenage boys might hurt their chances to avoid losing the 2014 Winter Olympics in Sochi, Russia.

There’s now new video of this boy being bullied, and it’s been translated.  It’s 1,000 times worse when you read the things they’re saying to this kid, and the thing he’s replying back.  The boy talks about how his dad would “beat the sh*t out of me” if he finds out the kid is gay and tried to hook up with someone (that’s how they capture these teens – they pose in online chatrooms, and the boys think they’re meeting someone else gay).

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To call this young boy a suicide risk is an understatement.  And it’s all because the Russian government, under President Vladimir Putin, thinks kidnapping 15 year olds and then torturing them is the Russian way of respecting human rights.  And he’s not far from the truth. Russia has instituted a draconian crackdown on gay and trans people over the past few years, culminating in a new law that basically outlaws anything perceived as pro-gay, including all speech ad even wearing rainbow suspenders.

I considered not posting this at all, but as the person who translated the video makes clear, this video has already been all over Russian social media.  The damage is done.

Here are a number of screen shots of the video, that pretty much tell you all you need to know.  And below that is the video itself, with the subtitles, it’s 20 minutes long, and truly horrific.

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They threaten to out him to his friends and family:

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Then they threaten him with violence:

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Note the guy in the ski mask on the right:

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Then they attempt to pour urine on his head.  They call it “urine therapy.” They do this to many of their victims:

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The boy realizes what they’re doing and tries to move out of the way of the urine.

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Welcome to Vladimir Putin’s Russia.

Oh, and the Russians have announced that if they finally catch the guys who did this, now that the foreign pressure got to be too great, the maximum penalty they’re going for is 3 months’ jail time.

Just for comparison, if you shoot a cat in Russia, you get 5 years.

There’s a reason people are increasingly invoking Nazi Germany and the 1936 Nazi Olympics.

Here’s the video. H/t to GailyGrind, and to Nikita Udovichenko, who explains more about the video on his YouTube page under the “about” section:

Age of consent in Russia is currently 16 years old. On video one can see allegedly a 15 year old teen lured by an organized Neo Nazi gang of self-proclaimed “pedophile fighters” who posted a fake personal ad from allegedly an older man (named “Uncle Dima”). This teen was forced to give out his full name, address, school name, parents names and etc. They laughed about his sexual preferences, bullied him, poured urine on him and kicked at the end. We would never know what occurred after the camera went out. Naturally, all his personal details were released to the general public and viewed by millions in Russia. Infamous Russian ultranationalist and former skin head, Maxim Martsinkevich, known under the nickname “Cleaver” (or “Tesak” in Russian) spearheaded a country wide campaign against (primarily male) LGBT teens using a popular social network VK.com to capture, torture and ultimately out unsuspected male teen victims. Over 500 online groups were created. As one can see, they operate under a broad day light. Bystanders either ignore or condone their actions. Police refuse to arrest them even though they are in violation of the existing criminal laws in Russia. Their excuse? They fight pedophiles … but attacking pedophiles’ victims. Certainly, they are selective and lure mostly gay male teens. Being outed in a small Russian city often equal death, torture, suicide. They track suicides publicly online and brag about those deeds.


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  • Hahaha

    These lot are soooo funny aren’t they, Russian sense of humour kidnapping a 15 year old gay boy and stuff like u fuck old men! Hahah hilarious!! Loser country! Russians are fucking animals that is all!

  • Geo

    Is there any way we can get a message to this unfortunate young victim to let him know that there are millions of people around the world who feel that the people who took part in this targeted attack are a disgrace to the human race. A bunch of cowards who ganged up on one young man. Yes man not boy, the way he, alone, stood up with such poise under attack showed he was a man with inner strength that none of his tormentors will never have.

  • Moderator3

    Did you read my reply to him? That’s important information.

  • Geo

    I don’t understand why anybody is responding to comments made by Bestor Gultom. Anybody who states as Bestor Gultom has, that pedophile are only gay is obviously an idiot who is poorly informed, bigoted and brained washed. Bestor buy yourself a dictionary and look up the word pedophile. Bestor here is a little free advice; it is best to keep quiet and be thought to be an idiot than to speak and prove to the world that YOU ARE AN IDIOT.

  • Alberto Gutierrez

    Ohhh WOOOOW!!! Now I understand everything, it is all about RELIGION! Of course, why didn’t I thought about that. Well in that case,I have nothing to say, because science an logic is not with you. It is even worse to know that gays are doomed in your country, just because your way to think and your religious beliefs.

    God loves us all!!!!

  • Moderator3

    You are banned. This post was a post of a deluded person attempting to be reasonable. The rest of your posts deteriorated into bigoted, homophobic remarks.

  • Moderator3

    Of course, you are banned. However, I’m not touching your comment. Everyone needs to understand the thinking of people like you.

  • Bestor Gultom

    ..”BIGGEST COMUNITY OF PEDOPHILES ARE HETEROSEXUALS”..

    LOL, Pedophiles is act of homosexuality so it make the convicted as Homosexual, you dummy!. where is your logic??. If the homos doing straight sex so its automatically make them Heterosexual???

  • Bestor Gultom

    Alex, its True occupy geromtophilay group is another conspiracy group made by Anti Government just like Pussy riot, you can’t believe what you just see from internet without checking what behind it, if you did then you are fool. Use your logic if this occupy geromtophilay group really exist than why it Just Happen today right after the Russian government enact new that so called “Russian Anti Gay Regulation”, why not 10 years ago, why not in Stalin era when Gay peoples persecuted because of being Gay?of course there something fishy right?. I just cannot understand why Gay peoples so obssesed with recognization, I mean if you Gay then fine but keep it yourself, you don’t have to declare to the world “HEY YAWN I’M GAY!!!” it just doesn’t make it any sense, of course the Ignorant peoples would react violently because its something new and considered not right according to their traditional values. it just the same happen when a bunch of straight peoples marching “Straight Pride” in front of Gay neighboorhood. What do you gonna do about that? change the world?

  • MK ULTRA

    Bestor, if you want to protect children, why don’t the stop the huge russian child sex trade? Isn’t is because most Russian men prefer having sex with children? Isn’t it true that Russian orphanages are filled with children with fetal alcohol syndrome because most Russians are addicted to alcohol which has caused Russian adult males to have a significantly shorter lifespan. It’s true that Russian skinheads lure young gay boys online then rape them and force them to perform sexual acts. Most Russian youth are obsessed with American pop culture and would sell and organ to leave the frozen graveyard Russia for sunny California. The fact is Russia is can’t provide the lifestyle for the citizens that the West enjoys, so now they are on an anti=western propaganda tour, just like in Soviet times and we all remember what happened to the Soviet Union.
    Don’t worry. The West will definitely embarrass you for a second? third? Millionth time. And you make it so easy. You act like pigs, so we show the world what pigs you are.
    If you don’t want to be thought of as a pig, tell your fellow fascists to stop their anti-human propaganda and crimes. Otherwise the West will be forced to humiliate your frozen wasteland further.

  • Alberto Gutierrez

    HAHAHAA, let me laugh please. “Yes we want to protect our childrens for pedo rapist homo jerk” statistically straight people is more than a 90% so technically the BIGGEST COMUNITY OF PEDOPHILES ARE HETEROSEXUALS, don’t you get that? and what is that you say “Gay Pride Exhibition propaganda” what the fuck is that, what? really?, WHAT IS THAT?, I’m gay so loving my boyfriend is EXHIBITION?. you can kiss, hand to your wife / husband and I can not do the say because i’m gay, I am an exhibitionist?really?, I see straight couples having sex in public parks ALL around EURORE and in the United States, and in Russia problably too. They leave condoms there (in public parks) where CHILDREN can touch it, swallow it, AND THOSE are STRAIGHT couples doing it !! STRAIGHT NOT GAY !!!! if you have to reject any “exhibition” propaganda why don’t you start with straight people? You know what is unhealthy, mentaly unhealthy for children?. Deny what they are, that causes suicides, that is what you are promotig, ¡YOU KID DENY WHAT YOU ARE OR DIE !!! OR worse, HIDE IT so you can get infected with HIV or any other STD because nobody told you about it. THAT IS what your people is promoting, what you particularly are promoting.

    And thank you very MUCH !!!! I don’t want any russian in my contry, is a despite for my eyes, I see one of your people and I have to content myself so terribly that it hurts.

    And tell me, What is gonna be next? ,life imprisonment for homosexuals,¡¡ PROTECT YOUR CHILDREN Homos are coming !! how many years is that gonna take? 5, 10 years?

    Oh my god, I never thougt that Russia could be such a disgraceful country! Terrible, teerrible place….

    so.. anyone who is gays is a suspected pedophile to your people….

    unbelievable….

  • Bestor Gultom

    MK Ultra or whatever your name is. You talk like you know every Russian, Generalizing, its really sad. If i could generalizing, I would say that LGBT infact doesn’t see human as human, do you read the news how Gay couple rapes and molest 10 of their adopted children?, or how Russian children who adopted by Gay couples being rape and killed sadisticly in USA and New Zealand? or how Gay catholic priest molesting children all around the world? or how Gay doctor infecting more than 6 innocent Babies in Ukraine? and many Gay other Gay crimes? you know what it really happen. But I would not generalizing just like you did, because it just close minded people trait. Russian peoples not religious at all, in fact most of them were LIBERAL but they refuse any western propaganda especially from the Group whose consist the with most infected HIV Virus in the world and the group with the most molesting child crime in the world. you don’t like it how the fact talk? then talk to your fellow gay men to stop their propaganda and their crimes.

  • Bestor Gultom

    Alberto, I’m never said that the boy in the Video “is not Gay” or the video happen to be Fake. I said many peoples In Russia believe that this video infact was FAKE. can you distinguish the different? its nothing new! many Anti Government groups using Video propaganda as tools to gather westerner support, at least that what Russian media said, like I said before if this true then I feel sorry for this boy. Yes we want to protect our childrens for pedo rapist homo jerk! yes there a lot rape crime made by Gay couple in Russia and we Russian as communal reject any “Gay Pride Exhibition propaganda” not because we Hate Gays but its not healthy for our Children mentality. you can say what you want, I respect your view but respect mine too. You never live or visit Russia so cannot figure out or how to react to this condition. I’m never like Spanish too, you just the poor country and all your peoples always making trouble all around the world just like they did in USA. Don’t worry I will suggest my fellow country to not visit your country anymore so your country’s tourism business will diminish. You can say what you want about Russia but it doesnt mean its true cause you never know what you talking about And you know what Russia still the one of the most strongest country in term of military and economy. We don’t have to copy Liberal USA to get what we had now. so suck it up!

  • MK ULTRA

    Gultom, Russia doesn’t see its LGBT as human, and so the free, western world doesn’t see Russians as human. If you want respect, you have to give respect. Your dehumanizing, degrading anti-LGBT law is very disrespectful. So in response, Russia and Russians will be degraded and humiliated in Western media. Don’t like it? Talk to your government.

  • Alex

    You lie! It is a true video! From so called occupy geromtophilay group! (Or occupy pedophilay) And there are a lot of them in Vkontakte social network all over the country!
    The law could be easily found in internet everybody could read it – don’t think people are silly!
    And russian TV issued a lot of broadcasting sayng all gays are pedophiles! If you are from Russia you should know that!
    Teacher will be fired if he is open gay… tescher… ALL open gays are fired if they are working in state organizations. The sane is for adopting a child – no one let you adopt is you tell you are gay/lesbian/bi/ trans.
    The thing is you need to hide you orientation to work and live normaly.
    If you are from Russia you should know that… moralist.

  • Alberto Gutierrez

    of course you think this is a fake, your anti gay propaganda and laws says so. nothing is gay, homosexuality “must” not exist in you country so… according to the “new” Russia, what we have seen in this video “never” happend. the boy “is not gay”, it was “a fake” of course, of course, what else can you say. Oh yeah… You only want to “protect your children” FROM WHAT?. Who is gonna protect that 15 year old boy and all boys coming after him?. You? the boys harrasing on him?, I hate Russians comming all summers to my country (Spain) I really hope they all burn in the sun with a great CANCER. I have never liked Russia much, but after this… Oh god, your people are not different from those muslim terrorists or to those who apply the sharia Law, to those who put woman and children to death. Your country will change the laws little by little, so slowly that when you want to react, you’ll be living in the 1940′s once more. Your country is becoming a very unfriendly country to the world, And not because how you treat gays, is because how you treat dignity, rationalism, how you act in international conflicts, how you treat your own people. In the last century Russia has been nothing but a deathly country, and apparently it is going to be once more

  • Bestor Gultom

    Listen, I’m not saying ” We just want to protect our children” to implying that Gays are danger to Children by meaning nor hatred toward gays. What I’m saying that we try to delimit imoral exposition which common made by Gays such as Gay Pride Parade, Nude Parade,Mass Kissing parade, transvetive parade and other kind of disguisting stuff, this action to protect our childrens. Please read the new so called Russian “Anti Gay Regulation”, the essence of this law is NOT againts Gay and some Law also had been made for hetero peoples in same subject. and about the no gay flag, please,,, Russian are as nation has strict policy in term of waving “foreign” flag in a public place . Many peoples in western world never know the fact that most Russian peoples is actually have Liberal point of view, they don’t care much about your bedroom business but when it come someone try to change general moral values then you should prepare for backlash because our country’s future is being attack. Russian peoples have suffer all time starting from Romanov’s Agenda, Nazism Agenda, Communism Agenda, Yetlsinsm agenda etc, so please we don’t need another Liberalism or Capitalism agenda so take it for yourself, just STOP! we happy with our conditon now. And about video, it had been confirmed by Russian offcial that this video was setted up by Gay organization to gather international support againts that so called “Russian anti gay regulation”, its nothing new, Video propaganda has been used as tools by anti Goverment to obtain westerner support, we just won’t buy it!. Why you guys not talking about how gay being treat badly in Muslim countries? at least Gay in Russia is recognized by Government, can have a job, can adopt a baby and many more. Try that in Muslim countries and you got yourself hanged in public by its peoples supported their government, that you should worry about!

  • Equality

    What do you mean “we just want to protect our children”?
    By saying that you are implying that gays are a danger to children; how is that not hatred towards gays?

    As for Pussy Riot, they made a stand because it was nessicary. Without them, gays would continue to suffer in silence. One action against a church and a countless actions against gay. Don’t you think that is incredibly radical?

    If a heterosexual group had disrespected the church, does that give the government a right to attack all heterosexuals? No. So it should not justify their attack on gays.

  • Bestor Gultom

    Really!! I see a lot of Bias Report on this article. I’m Russian and we don’t hate Gays or LGBT in general. We just want to protect our childrens. And about this Video, if this true then I feel sorry to this boy hope is ok, but many peoples in Russia believe this video infact was FAKE. How about video that shown LGBT peoples disrespecting Orthodox properties such as Pussy Riot did to Russian Church in ?

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  • filthykafur

    Yeah…You need to “Offend” a muslim to get the media up on their haunches!

  • filthykafur

    Youre right TampaZeke… dead right. Poor kid.

  • Johnny Bandana

    Homosexuals should exercise their right to privacy by keeping their deviant behavior locked in their closet.

  • http://fighttherightwingnuts.blogspot.com/ mike31c

    Of course these Russian pigs has to abuse a 15yr old. They could not take on an adult.

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    Russian thugs with the consent of the State torture a child on UTube and begin what appears to be a State sanctioned genocide against GLTBQ peoples.Obama is silent except to offer a passive-aggressive nod to how offended he is, but the show must go on. Maybe those gays will win a gold, silver, or bronze medal and that will show them. If I understand correctly Jesse Owen’s medal didn’t deter the murder and torture of over six million human beings by the Nazi’s. Seig Heil IOC !

  • Ninong

    FLL,

    I read the Forbes article you linked and it appears you misread it. Here is the very first sentence: “Oil prices are headed down, and I mean down at least $20 a barrel.” Clearly he’s not saying crude oil will drop to $20/bbl, he’s predicting it will drop by at least $20/bbl from where it was when he wrote that article in April 2013.

    West Texas Intermediate was around $88/bbl when he wrote that. It closed Friday, August 10, at $106/bbl, so it hasn’t moved down yet. If it were to fall by $20 from where it is right now, that would mean $86/bbl. If he expected it to fall at least $20/bbl from where it was when he wrote his article, that would mean $68/bbl.

    It appears that it has formed a base at around $86/bbl, so I seriously doubt it will fall as low as $68/bbl anytime in the near future. I believe it will probably trade between $90-$120 over the next 12 months assuming nobody bombs Iran, and that includes Israel. If anybody bombs Iran, oil prices will spike.

  • http://buddybest.tripod.com/index.html BuddyNovinski

    Gack! I wanted to take this boy and give him a long hug. Then tell him in Russian (which I don’t know) that there are people who abhor this psychological torture. As for the torturers, they should get a life. This boy is going to hurt for a long time; hopefully his parents will be outraged at this incident and support him unconditionally.

  • Butch1

    CNN is just FOX lite. All one has to do is watch Candy Crowley’s program to see that.

  • Tom in Lazybrook

    Doubtful. I work in Oil/Gas. Most likely case is that the price of oil stays in the 85-110 range this year. Now in the next 5 years, it is possible that oil could sink down to the 65-75 range, but only if we continue with exploiting unconventional oil and there is an economic slowdown in China.
    Either way, Oil prices are unlikely to continue to rise, which is very bad news for Russia.

  • Tom in Lazybrook

    RT has been a joke during all of this. They have been towing the party line. They even made one of the Gay employees (the Arts correspondent) go on TV and talk about how great things are in Russia. That’s right, they couldn’t find a Gay person not employed by them to go on TV and defend Russia. It was pathetic. http://rt.com/news/russia-gay-propaganda-law-069/
    RT is useful for two reasons. First, because it helps us see exactly how scared Russia is of this. Second, as an example of crude propaganda from a older time.

  • FLL

    An article in Forbes magazine from May of this year predicts oil prices to drop in 2013-2014… really drop, like to $20 a barrel:

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/billconerly/2013/05/01/oil-price-forecast-for-2013-2014-falling-prices/

    Great news for human rights and bad news for Putin.

  • dula

    Agreed. If we could offer asylum to Russian Jews in the 1980′s we can certainly provide refuge for LGBT Russians now.

  • anonymous poster

    Thom Hartmann…the “progressive” news anchor/commentator on RT..which is the news channel funded by the Russian government… what has he said about all of this? Has he said ANYTHING?

  • Ninong

    That poor boy! I hope they haven’t driven him to suicide. Clearly he doesn’t even shave yet.

  • Ninong

    Pat Buchanan won’t like that. Remember when he urged all of us to buy Kruggerands to show our support for the white appartheid government?

  • Ninong

    The Russians who made out like bandits under Yeltsin are moving all their money into Switzerland and other safe havens. Vlad Putin keeps most of his money in Switzerland.

    Russia’s economy is based on oil and when the price of oil falls, their economy crashes. Right now oil is above $100/bbl. Remember when it went all the way up to $147/bbl and they fell all the way down to $32/bbl? The Russian people’s affection for Vlad is directly tied to the price of oil. If oil drops below $60/bbl Vlad will be in trouble.

  • TampaZeke

    Keep this video in mind while reading the words of American Olympic runner and self-described “GLBT ally” Nick Symmonds:

    “Just as I would not accept a dinner invite to a friend’s house and then
    lecture them on how to raise their kids, neither will I lecture the
    Russian government on how to govern their people.”

    Keep in mind that the “friends” that he self-righteously proclaims that he wouldn’t “lecture [about] how to “raise their kids” are harassing their kids, berating their kids, imprisoning their kids and standing silently by while thugs are beating, murdering and driving their kids to suicide right in front of their eyes. But Nick would keep his opinions to himself for the sake of being a gracious guest.

    Yeah Nick, you’re a fine guest but a sorry excuse for a human being! You’re no ally to the gay community.

  • quax

    That’s the ticket! They need to be treated like South Africa in 1985.

  • the truth

    that doesn’t surprise me. Trip Advisor is run by a bunch of bullies that allow bogus reviews to pass and delete legit reviews.

  • Ninong

    Maxim brags that his grandfather was a Nazi SS stormtrooper! His caption for that photo of him wearing the black Nazi SS uniform is: Дед мой был штурмфюрер СС which translates as “My grandfather was a SS Sturmführer.”

    His idiot fans don’t understand that they’re worshipping the people who killed more than 35 million of their ancestors during WWII. And Maxim’s grandfather probably raped a good number of their babuskas!

  • Tom in Lazybrook

    Huge story coming out of California on Russia. Several California legislators, including Sen Leno, will be introducing legislation directing CalPERS and CalSTRS to divest from Russia. This represents a significant pushback to Russia. And one that they cannot afford to ignore. I can not understate how big this could be. Instead of just embarrassing Russia (which is what we’re doing with Sochi), this is the kind of stuff that can get a law repealed (or more likely, have Russia’s courts invalidate it).
    Russia has an grossly underperforming economy, when measured next to their developing peers. The weak Russian economy is causing Putin some issues. One of the reasons Russia’s economy sucks is that investors, both within and outside of Russia refuse to invest there. The biggest symptom of this is their really low P/E ratio (meaning that the world’s investment community would rather make less somewhere else than invest in Russia). In other words, Russia’s businesses face a capital market that is much more expensive than elsewhere. This just kills the Russian economy. Its a significant sore spot for Russia. Actually, it might be their weakest spot.
    Russia can’t afford the two of the largest funds in the world to publically rebuke them like they’re South Africa in 1985. And its likely that if CalPERS does do this publically, that others will follow.
    My guess is that the Russian Finance Minister is about to have a VERY bad day on Monday. Stay tuned. And if you’re in California, call your state Senator and state Representative and let them know you want them to call for divestment from Russia as well.
    Wow. This thing could actually get repealed.

  • Ninong

    What idiots! Hitler hated the Russians. He intended to make them all slaves! He killed between 35-40 million of them during the war, mostly civilians.

  • FLL

    I think you have a good point from a practical standpoint. These skinheads represent the majority group, which is to say, ethnic Russians who are hard core Eastern Orthodox Christians. Even if they choose Hitler as their patron saint, they are putting their Russian countrymen in no danger of being massacred by German Nazis. Even when Orthodox Christians fall out of power in Russia, as they probably will, they will never be persecuted. You can see the same situation in countries like the U.S. and France. Look at those groups that held power historically, but have fallen out of power—Bible-believing Protestants in the U.S. and traditional Roman Catholics in France. They are minorities now, but they are certainly not persecuted. In fact, they will never be persecuted, but rather will just slowly fade away. I think the same will be true in Russia.

    The only danger that I see for these Russian skinheads is from a public relations standpoint. By choosing a Slavic-hating loony like Hitler as their patron saint, the Russian skinheads are making fools of themselves on the world stage. They are turning themselves, and to some extent their country, into a laughing stock. That is not a physical danger. You point out in your reply that they will always be “included in the club,” since they are the historically privileged group in Russia. But being a bunch of Russians who worship Slavic-hating Hitler makes them a target for comedy and satire—never a desirable situation. If they had more sense, they would have chosen a Slavic patron saint. The Comedy Central script just writes itself.

  • sonoitabear

    Trip Advisor is allowing NO negative commentary or links to factual stories…
    Post one or more, the paid Russian tour operators come out and declare
    that you’re lying and next thing you know: POOF! your account is
    disabled…

  • sonoitabear

    Yes, John, really; they are allowing NO negative commentary or links to factual stories… Post one or more, the paid Russian tour operators come out and declare that you’re lying and next thing you know: POOF! your account is disabled…

  • http://www.rebeccamorn.com/mind BeccaM

    Perhaps. I wouldn’t want to personally, feeling like I need a scalding hot shower and a complete scrub of my Google search history.

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    I wonder if it is possible to bot swarm the Russian hate sites.

  • http://www.rebeccamorn.com/mind BeccaM

    All righty….

    Here’s some interesting tidbits–

    There are some 500+ local neo-Nazi groups, most of them recently created and comprised of young male adults and teens, who are ideologically aligned with and essentially worship Martsinkevich’s ultra-nationalist positions. As mentioned above, VK(dot)com is the most popular site for these individual groups to post their kidnapping, humiliation, and assault videos. Their young male, teen victims often commit suicide. When reported, VK will sometimes shut down the specific group’s site for a few days, then reinstate them as if nothing had happened. One rather disturbing and memorable photo from the VK site shows Nazi concentration camp victims standing in a line, with the caption (translated from Russian) saying, “We started to forget what gay parades are supposed to look like.”

    At first, I thought it was an odd Russian affectation to hold the thumb like that, as we’ve seen in many of the photos with the ‘thumbs-up’ gesture, with the thumb bent crooked. It is in fact a deliberate homage to Martsinkevich, who has said he cannot raise his thumb above that position due to a knife-inflicted tendon injury when he was younger. Groups use that gesture not to identify themselves with ‘Occupy Pedophilia’ (Okkupay Pedofilyay), but with Martsinkevich himself.

    Martsinkevich prefers to be called Tesak, which is Russian for ‘cleaver’ (or ‘machete’ or ‘hatchet’ — accounts differ). He also reportedly has 100,000 subscribers on his account on the Russian social network service VKontakte. Among his personal hobbies are dressing up in Nazi SS uniforms, expressing admiration for Adolph Hitler, and posting shirtless Grindr-ready selfies.

    Martsinkevich founded Format18 which, as I noted above, started its hate campaigns against immigrants. In 2007, F18 was shut down by the Russian government and Martsinkevich arrested after he shouted ‘Sieg Heil” and “kill the liberals” at a political debate at a cafe, and eventually served three years in prison for ‘inciting hate.’ Both F18 and its parent organization, NSO, were officially disbanded by the Russian government after the incident, but obviously they didn’t stay that way.

    I saw numerous reports that the Russian police are deliberately looking the other way when these anti-gay attacks occur and the suicides simply ignored.

    Various sources for this information, including:

    http://www.vocativ.com/07-2013/russian-neo-nazis-baiting-beating-gay-teens-in-a-twisted-take-on-to-catch-a-predator/

    and

    http://www.towleroad.com/2013/07/background-on-skinhead-maxim-martsinkevich-and-his-gay-hunting-russian-neo-nazis.html

  • Anonymous

    The same site that is full of paid reviews? Say it ain’t so…

  • deniz

    Pls confirm… If this is true then it DEFINITELY needs to be looked into and discussed (possibly here on AB).

  • Ninong

    I’ve never thought of CNN as “liberal,” more like Fox Lite.

  • PeteWa

    really depressing – I hope that kid is wrong about his dad (doubtful) because it’s a certainty he’s going to find out.

  • Anonymous

    I haven’t trusted the “liberal media” to be liberal since they reported Romney would win in a landslide. I’m looking at you, CNN.

  • Butch1

    They call this the “liberal media” and we haven’t heard a peep from them. Not. One. Peep! So much for the lazy reporting in the good ole US of A.

  • http://AMERICAblog.com/ John Aravosis

    Yes, have seen his name come up a lot. Did not know about the humiliating interviews though. I’ll try to take a look at this this weekend (it’s 11pm Friday night in Paris, and yes, I’m blogging). But feel free to research this as well, oh ye commenters ;)

  • A_nonymoose

    And from the major networks? Crickets . . .

  • quax

    Good to see that you keep this front and center.

    The thuggery of this is mind-numbing.

    This issue needs to become as big as Apartheid was back in the darkest days of South Africa.

    Keep up the good work!

  • http://www.rebeccamorn.com/mind BeccaM

    As I said the other day, they always assume they’d be included in the club. Plus, let’s not forget, in Vichy France, there were plenty of collaborators happy to load French Jews onto trains headed east.

  • FLL

    It just never made any sense to me why these Russian neo-fascist numbskulls idolize Hitler when Hitler wanted to decimate the Russian population and then make slaves out of the survivors. Don’t children learn anything in history class in Russia? People have talked about textbook reform in the American South and Saudi Arabia. How about textbook reform in Russia while we’re at it?

  • http://www.rebeccamorn.com/mind BeccaM

    I think my capacity for outrage has just been exceeded.

    John? I think we need to learn more about this Maxim Martsinkevich, who the remarks say ‘spearheaded’ this abomination. His Wiki entry is rather lacking in detail, saying only–

    Maxim Sergeyevich Martsinkevich (Russian: Макси́м Сергее́вич Марцинке́вич, born 8 May 1984) is a former leader of the far-right extremist group Format18, which was the ‘armed wing’ of the Russian neo-Nazi organization NSO.

    Format18 apparently got its start with similar attacks on immigrants in the early to mid-00s, and would do the same thing — videotape humiliating ‘interviews’ and assaults on them, then post the videos to their own website and to Russian social media sites, including VK(dot)com. (18 is a standard neo-Nazi homage to Hitler, 1 = A, and 8 = H, his initials.) According to Format18′s entry, they’re suspected of up to 600 immigrant murders — but none of them, not even Martsinkevich, received much in the way of prison time.

    One detail I find interesting in a tragic-ironic way: The pogrom was perfected by the German Nazis. It comes as no surprise violent Russian neo-Nazis fit right in with Russia’s pogrom against gays.

  • ckg1

    If that’s the case, put it somewhere else.

  • FLL

    The Department of Homeland Security needs to revise their policies concerning Russian immigrants immediately.

  • RyansTake

    All LGBT people from Russia should be immediately granted refugee status to the US and Western European countries, immediately. It is not safe for them in Russia, and quite frankly, we should be more than happy to have their talent, courage and hard work ethic here.

    What is going on there is disgusting, but ultimately there’s little we can do… but one of those things is to allow LGBT Russians an escape.

  • Tom in Lazybrook

    Sounds like Trip Advisor may be putting financial considerations over the health, safety, and well being of their customers. Hmmmmm.

  • http://AMERICAblog.com/ John Aravosis

    Really?

  • sonoitabear

    Don’t try to post anything like this to Trip Advisor; your post will be deleted and your account disabled by order of a consortium of Russian travel brokers and tour operators.

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