Poll: People hate Obamacare, but they hate defunding it even more

I do enjoy the polls on Obamacare.

I’d written three years ago about how people hated “Obamacare,” but loved its elements:

When asked about Obama’s plan (without being given any details about what the legislation includes), 49 percent opposed it and 40 percent were in favor. But after hearing key features of the legislation described, 48 percent supported the plan and 43 percent remained opposed.

The NEWSWEEK Poll asked respondents about eight health-care-reform provisions that Obama and many Democrats in Congress have generally supported. It found that the majority of Americans supported five of those provisions, three by particularly large margins.Eighty-one percent agreed with the creation of a new insurance marketplace, the exchange, for individual subscribers to compare plans and buy insurance at a competitive rate. Seventy-six percent thought health insurers should be required to cover anyone who applies, including those with preexisting conditions; and75 percent agreed with requiring most businesses to offer health insurance to their employees, with incentives for small-business owners to do so.

And another poll found the same thing last year.  People hated the name – the concept – of the law, rather than the law itself.  The specifics of the law, they loved.

Contradictory? Indeed.

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Then another poll last year showed that people didn’t like, or understand, Obamacare – but they didn’t want it repealed either.

And now there’s a new poll showing that people don’t want Obamacare defunded either.  And in fact, they hate the idea of defunding it even more than they hate the law itself.

More from Kaiser:

Roughly half the public (51 percent) continues to say they don’t have enough information about the ACA to understand how it will impact them and their family, a share that has been fairly steady since 2010. The share who feel they don’t have enough information is particularly high among Hispanics (64 percent), the uninsured (62 percent), young adults (62 percent of those ages 18-25), and those with lower incomes (60 percent of those with family incomes less than $40,000 a year).

Further, a large share remains confused about the law’s status, with 44 percent either thinking the law has been repealed (8 percent), overturned by the Supreme Court (5 percent), or unsure whether it remains the law or not (31 percent).

Yes, 44% don’t even know if the law is still on the books?  Are we a great country or what?

Now for the poll’s findings on defunding Obamacare:

Public opinion on the ACA as a whole continues to tilt negative this month, with 37 percent saying they have a favorable view of the law and 42 percent expressing an unfavorable view, shares that have held relatively steady since February of this year.

Still, a majority of Americans (57 percent) say they disapprove of the idea of cutting off funding as a way to stop the law from being implemented, a finding that has been consistent in Kaiser Health Tracking Polls since January 2011. Republicans and those with an unfavorable view of the law overall are more likely to approve of attempts to defund the ACA, but even among these groups, about a third (34 percent and 33 percent, respectively) say they disapprove.

According to Kaiser, people think Congress should either repeal the law, or not pass it in the first place. But the appropriate response is not cutting off funding.

Of course, that’s exactly what Republicans have been talking about doing, cutting off funding for health care reform.

And what’s worse, Republican leaders are now talking about using the debt ceiling fight to force the President to defund Obamacare, or the Republicans will force the US government to default on its debt, sending the world economy into chaos.

In the case of Obamacare, House leaders have been trying to talk their members into claiming victory on sequestration cuts and abandoning the effort to defund the health care law. But assuming that won’t appease them (and it won’t), GOP aides have floated using the debt ceiling, instead of the government shutdown, as the bargaining chip. An aide to Eric Cantor told Reuters yesterday that the debt limit provides a good “leverage point” to try to force action on Obamacare.

Swapping the debt ceiling hostage for the government shutdown hostage, while even more dangerous, had the benefit of buying GOP leaders some time — or at least it did until the debt limit deadline got moved up.

Having a hard time paying your bills?  Threaten to kill the neighbors.

And the Republicans wonder why they’re having a hard time winning elections.


Follow me on Twitter: @aravosis | @americablog | @americabloggay | Facebook | Instagram | Google+ | LinkedIn. John Aravosis is the Executive Editor of AMERICAblog, which he founded in 2004. He has a joint law degree (JD) and masters in Foreign Service from Georgetown; and has worked in the US Senate, World Bank, Children's Defense Fund, the United Nations Development Programme, and as a stringer for the Economist. He is a frequent TV pundit, having appeared on the O'Reilly Factor, Hardball, World News Tonight, Nightline, AM Joy & Reliable Sources, among others. John lives in Washington, DC. .

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46 Responses to “Poll: People hate Obamacare, but they hate defunding it even more”

  1. Jeff Magnus says:

    Do you have a source for this quote? I’d greatly appreciate it if you do.

  2. ComradeRutherford says:

    I refer to him as the ‘Formerly Disgraced Speaker of the House’.

  3. ArthurH says:

    You never know. Back in 1998 Newt Gingrich predicted big gains for the GOP in the House and Senate. But voters thought otherwise and the GOP lost seats. The GOP blamed Newt and he resigned from the House three days later. Or as one radio host put it on the morning after the election, “The electorate has effectively castrated Newt.” And after Newt resigned, the host shrugged, “What else did Newt have to do but pick up his balls and go home.”

  4. ComradeRutherford says:

    You call me the ‘low-information voter’ when you clearly are unable to comprehend what I’ve written. And how is my knowing MORE about Obama and Clinton than the average Democrat ‘low-information’? I knew Obama was a moderate Republican while he was running in 2008! How is that ‘low-information’?

    You use the ‘low-information’ insult to belittle people that clearly know more about the issues than you do. This is bourn out in your ‘argument’ that because I want a Real Democrat as President instead of the fake Dems that we have been getting, that means I should vote for far-right extremists! Only a ‘low-information’ devotee such as yourself could make that crazy comparison.

    Please attempt to explain how voting for Moderate Republicans instead of Real Democrats makes me ‘another person who is unable to use logical reasoning processes to understand the issues’ and that I am ‘voting against [my] best interest’?

    I made a clearly logical argument and you responded with insults and lies, the biggest one is that I am ‘unable to use logical reasoning processes to understand the issues.’

  5. Zorba says:

    I disagree. Clinton was to the right of center. He may be more centrist now, but as President, he mostly governed right of center.
    Obama is, however, much, much farther to the right. I’ve often thought that he must be some kind of Manchurian Candidate. I don’t know why the Republicans hate him so much- he’s given them most of what they wanted.

  6. Perry Logan says:

    Bill Clinton is a centrist Democrat. Barack Obama is a fascist posing as a centrist Democrat. Kind of amazing that my fellow lefties haven’t figured this out yet.

  7. koralroget7yq says:

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    but if people do not start voting Third Party in significant numbers, we will never change things in this country.

  8. Monoceros Forth says:

    Bingo. The notion that the ACA is a stepping-stone to better things is just laughable. When, in the last couple decades at least of American politics, have things ever worked that way? Did McCain-Feingold lead to further campaign finance reforms? Did the FISA compromise lead to better control over lawless surveillance? Of course not! The pattern has been well established: legislators gingerly take up an explosive issue, finally put forth a weak and toothless bill to address it, and whether it passes or not the issue is forthwith dropped (q.v. gun control) it is not touched again.

    The ACA is a dead end. It leaves untouched–indeed it strengthens–the two idiotic assumptions on which American health coverage is based: first, that a private and for-profit health insurance firm is the best (indeed the only valid) recourse for an American citizen confronted with medical costs; second, that health care coverage ought to be tied to one’s employer. The ACA leaves the latter assumption unexamined and it strengthens the former assumption–strengthens it massively!

    Is the ACA better than nothing? I suppose. It’s like saying that what Peter Jackson did to Tolkien was better than nothing. He got a few bits right but mostly it was rubbish–worse, it was rubbish that ensured we’ll see nothing better for decades to come. Thanks to Jackson I’ll probably be dead before anyone treats Tolkien as something other than a quarry for Hollywood-style action set pieces, but that is trivial. Thanks to Obama I’ll probably be dead before anyone treats health care as something other than either a ruinous private expense or a grudging and strictly optional perk from an resentful employer–and thanks to Obama it’s rather more likely than not I’ll be dead before anything different comes anywhere close to being any more than a futile dream.

  9. DetroitSam says:

    The people who say they hate the ACA are too lazy and too stupid to make the effort to find out what the ACA actually does.
    The most disingenuous thing these pollsters do to manipulate the questions asked. Instead of asking if the person polled knows what is in the ACA, they ask if the person polled likes the ACA.

  10. DetroitSam says:

    I hope you do vote for republicans in the next and future elections. You are just another person who is unable to use logical reasoning processes to understand the issues.
    Just another low info person voting against his best interest and who is happy to cut off his nose to spite his face.
    Hope it works out for you.

  11. DetroitSam says:

    I was taking you seriously until this: “Obama needs to take 5 minutes away from trying to listen in on everyone’s phone calls and emails and start promoting Obamacare.” You obviously have not been following the “this” because President talks about the benefits of the ACA at every opportunity.

    It would seem that you have a comprehension problem that a bit of tutoring might help.

    P.S. Exactly what programs did Reagan and other presidents use evening broadcast to explain?
    By the way, you must have been home schooled.

  12. ezpz says:

    Comrade, you sound exactly like those Tea-Baggers…

    And you sound just like a neolib or faux democrat who puts party ahead of principle. The type of so called *democrat* who approves of everything this administration does, but (rightfully) decried the same things when they were carried out by a republican administration. IOW, a hypocrite.

  13. ComradeRutherford says:

    What good is having a female president when she’s a Moderate Republican? Look at how ‘great’ Moderate Republican Obama has been for America: Refusing to undo any of Bush II’s policies, and even increasing them and making them worse, passing the far-right extremists health care law, pre-caving to the GOP on every single issue time after time while knowing full well that the extremist GOP will never negotiate in good faith and only use his cravenness to move the goal even farther into extremist-right territory.

    With Democrats like Obama and Hillary, who needs Republicans?

    I want Real Democrats, like Senators Sanders and Warren. Those are the Democrats I vote for. The last time I voted for a Mainstream Democrat was 1992, because Clinton was Not-Bush. And boy were we all burned when he turned out to be a fake Dem!

    I am sick and tired of fake Democrats.

  14. ezpz says:

    The ACA and Social Security are worlds apart. They shouldn’t even be used in the same paragraph unless it’s to highlight the vast differences. And let’s not kid ourselves that this in any way will be ‘universal health care’ because it won’t be. Many will fall into that grayist of gray areas where they make ‘too much’ to qualify for subsidies tax credits, but not enough to be able to afford decent coverage. So they’ll be stuck with a penalty in the form of a tax, which won’t do anything for them, but it certainly will help the corporations to whom these taxes will flow.

    If anything, the ACA will guarantee a republican takeover. Why do you think its implementation was postponed until after the last two elections? And I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s postponed again until after the next election, too.

  15. ComradeRutherford says:

    Mathematically, single payer is the ONLY efficient and least expensive option. Having numerous for-profit insurers each with a CEO stealing hundreds of millions of dollars in premiums is the worst way to have a health care system.

  16. ComradeRutherford says:

    You are not paying attention to the polls. The GOP will increase their house seats, that is a given. They will increase their seats in the Senate and maybe even take it over. That is what ALL the poll data is indicating. And that’s before you factor in their anti-Democratic voter laws.

    It is not my ‘opinion’, it is cold, hard fact. Your predictions are what is opinion here.

    Meanwhile the Dems are falling all over themselves to become Moderate Republicans, just like Obama, but OT fighting back against the GOP extremists. Obama and the Dems pre-cave to every GOP demand, and now, emboldened by the craven Dems, the GOP is openly planing to crush the entire global economy in order to stop their own health care scheme.

  17. ezpz says:

    The problem, though, is that these aren’t even baby steps in the right (correct) direction. No, they’re giant steps away from what would work best, and has PROVEN to work, which is single payer for all – like Medicare, which would be the most cost effective all around.

    No, this is corporate welfare, plain and simple. Forcing all individuals to purchase an unregulated, unstandardized product from a profit & greed driven industry will ‘inevitably’ prove disastrous for all except those in the rapacious industries and those for whom money is no object.

    Let’s also keep in mind that no caps on premiums, copays, or deductibles were put in place. And when I say “unstandardized” I mean that the insurance companies can still arbitrarily deny claims if those claims affect their bottom lines. It happens all the time and there’s nothing in the ACA to protect members from these egregious practices. Nothing.

  18. Sugapea says:

    Comrade, you sound exactly like those Tea-Baggers:
    “I will not vote for any Republican who’s not actively destroying Obamacare, Abortion and LGBT Equal Rights. I want only total perfection”.

    A 2016 Woman President will be a robust second punch!
    After PBO..they will be in shambles with a Woman giving orders.
    There are no other women of HRC’s caliber, savvy, experience & passion.
    Please keep an open mind. The ‘President Hillary Clinton’ timing will be most potent.

  19. Sugapea says:

    Any new endeavor…understandably has stumbling-baby-steps.
    Inevitably ACA will require fine-tuning. We should expect that.

  20. Sugapea says:

    The following is why Republicans are fighting vehemently to destroy ACA.

    Newt Gingrich warned his party way back in 1993.
    He said, “Democrats gave us Social Security and Americans kept them in power for 50 years! If we let the Democrats pass universal health care, they’ll get re-elected for another 50 years”.

  21. Monoceros Forth says:

    Sure. It’s the electoral off-season, with its usual slackening of interest in politics and voting. The zealots, still fired up and vengeful after the 2012 defeats, will have a louder than usual say in the results. So the Republican Party will probably pick up some congressional seats and at least a few of those will go to fire-eating “Tea Party” nutcases who will use their victories as proof that the GOP ought to move even further right. Maybe they’ll even succeed in getting one of their number nominated for the presidency.

    And then in 2016 they’ll be slaughtered.

  22. runfastandwin says:

    That’s your opinion, and you are wrong. The re-election was never in doubt at any point. Further, I predict not only will the Democrats increase their numbers in the Senate, they have a pretty good shot of taking the House as well. It all depends on the Democrats GOTV operation.

  23. Zorba says:

    Well, very frankly, I was in favor of George McGovern in 1968. I never entirely trusted Eugene McCarthy, who wound up endorsing Ronald Reagan in 1980, and who also endorsed the Star Wars space “defense” in 1988.
    And, although I liked Bobby Kennedy a whole lot better than Gene, I also never entirely trusted him either, mainly because of the fact that he worked as an investigator for Joseph McCarthy’s infamous subcommittee, and never renounced Joe McCarthy later.
    So, what can I say? I have always been way to the left of Democratic Party mainstream politics, but at the very least, they were way left at one time of where they are now.
    And Mr. Zorba has never forgiven me for voting Ralph Nader/Green Party in 2000. And the he!! with that. I don’t regret it. Not that Nader was perfect (in fact, he is more than a bit of a jerk in many ways), but if people do not start voting Third Party in significant numbers, we will never change things in this country.

  24. ComradeRutherford says:

    Pelosi and Reid’s job is handing victories to the GOP by selling out the Democratic Base every chance they get. That is the sole outcome of everything they do.

  25. ComradeRutherford says:

    Agreed. Everything you said is right on target.

  26. ComradeRutherford says:

    They didn’t ‘lose big’ at all. It was very close. If Rmoney had not acted like an entitled rich kid expecting to be handed the Presidency he would have won.

    And, again because you seem incapable of addressing this point, the GOP will increase their hold on the House and may even take control of the Senate in 2014! They are NOT losing anything.

  27. Houndentenor says:

    Everyone should learn more about marketing and advertising. Almost all decisions we make are emotional, and then we rationalize them because we like to think we are logical more than we are emotional. it’s not true, but we like to think that. Look at how many low information voters like to accuse the other party of being emotional while they are logical. (happens on both sides, btw) People don’t like “big government” but they like the individual parts of the law if you poll them separately. But knowing this, there’s no excuse for Democrats not marketing the bill that way. Stupid comments like “we have to vote for it to find out what’s in it” are guaranteed to be played on a tape loop by the opposition for years to come. It’s why I can’t stand either Pelosi or Reid. They are HORRIBLE at messaging and to me that is the most important part of their jobs. If I sucked at my job that bad I’d be fired. We can only blame the Republicans so much since we know how the game is played and keep failing to play it well.

  28. Houndentenor says:

    Republicans will do well in 2014 because the map is skewed in their favor because Democrats tend to live in more densely populated states (giving us less representation in the Senate) and because much of the country is heavily Gerrymandered in the Republicans’ favor. At the national level I don’t see who they are going to run in 2016 who can win. Romney wasn’t the problem. No other Republican would probably have done as well. Romney at least comes off as a grown up most of the time unlike most of the clown show that was running for the 2012 nomination. He was their best shot and they still lost. The Electoral map actually favors Democrats slightly which is why Republicans are doing everything they can to suppress minority and younger voters. That only gets worse over time as their base is old, white and rural…all declining demographics.

  29. Houndentenor says:

    Here’s a good example of how the right operates. Last Saturday Mike Huckabee spent an entire hour on ACA. The show was full of nonsense, unworkable proposals and half-truths. But the most frustrating was a common practice. It does like this. They presented a supposed viewer e-mail that mentioned the death panels. Huckabee made no mention of the death panels in his response to the email. So he didn’t actually say anything either way which allows him to deny that he said ACA was going to create such a thing. At the same time he made sure they were mentioned and he didn’t refute the idea either. It was disgusting and perfectly transparent to anyone who hasn’t drunk the Kool-Aid (like my Dad who insisted on watching the show). Meanwhile this death panel meme is alive and well and scaring seniors while the GOP leadership talks about dismantling Medicare which is what OUGHT to be scaring them. It’s so dishonest and frankly effective because Democrats are so incompetent and putting out their own message and countering the lies from the right.

  30. Bill_Perdue says:

    Democrats – politicians and supporters – have been quickly moving right since they elected mad dog warmonger LBJ,

  31. Houndentenor says:

    Before ACA I had to fill out 20 pages of paperwork for every insurance claim (as in a single doctor visit or prescription) to rule out any possible pre-existing condition because I occasional (but not all that often) use asthma medication. it was a fight to get my insurance to pay for anything. That problem disappeared overnight thanks to ACA.

    The problem here is that the Democrats (as usual) did a HORRIBLE job explaining what the law would do and why it was important. Instead they stood back and let the Republicans frame the conversation. As a result I am still hearing references to “death panels” (most recently on last Saturday’s edition of Huckabee on Fox News). Yes, there were parties attempting to lie to and confuse the public. But the Democratic response to that was pathetic. People still don’t know what Obamacare does and that really is the fault of Obama and the Democratic “leadership.” If your message isn’t getting out and you have a platform on which to deliver your message, then you have no one to blame but yourself for not delivering it.

  32. ezpz says:

    The poll that will matter the most will be done AFTER the full implementation of this godawful law.
    We’ll see how “affordable” the ACA really is.

  33. ezpz says:

    …The Republicans DID propose the exact same law…

    And what I find really pathetic is that this is what the alleged *left* is using to defend obamacare.

    That was why it was defeated back in the mid-’90s: because it was way to far to the extreme right….

    Exactly why, as Glen Ford correctly said, Obama is the “more effective evil”.

    http://blackagendareport.com/content/why-barack-obama-more-effective-evil

  34. The first thing is to call it the Affordable Care Act and not the other term. The next thing is to let the House shut down the government. Maybe even the Tea Baggies will wake up this time.

  35. runfastandwin says:

    Just because you repeat it in bold doesn’t make it any truer. They were never close to Obama in 2012, anything over 50 percent these days is a landslide. The fact that they have so many advantages, from controlling the media to the gerrymander to the voter suppression, and yet they still lost big in 2012, tells me their days are numbered.

  36. Zorba says:

    ^^Exactly this, Bill^^. Mr. Zorba and I have been arguing about this ever since Clinton. Bill Clinton was also a right-centrist. The Republicans have also moved even farther to the right. I don’t care if it’s the Overton Window, or whatever, at work.
    Mr. Zorba finally admitted to me yesterday, with all the talk of military action against Syria, that maybe I was right, and that the Democratic Party has changed. For the worse.
    But then, I’m an old way lefty/hippie/whatever you want to call me. So what the he!! do I know? :-(

  37. ComradeRutherford says:

    “ready to vote Hillary”

    NO! She is EXACTLY the same as Obama: A Moderate Republican intent on selling out the Democratic Voters and helping the GOP turn the USA into a police state. That’s what Bill did, there is NO reason to expect Hillary to do anything differently.

    I am done voting for fake Dems that are actually Moderate Republicans. That is why I didn’t vote for Obama.

  38. ComradeRutherford says:

    “If the Republicans had proposed the exact same law as Obamacare”

    The Republicans DID propose the exact same law, shortly after the GOP defeated Clinton’s attempt at reform, Newt Gingrich waved the Heritage Foundation’s ‘Using Big Government to Force Americans to Buy Health Insurance From For-Profit Corporation Scheme’ and demanded it be taken seriously. At that time it (the exact same law) was so extreme to the RIGHT, that everyone laughed and laughed at such an outrageous notion. Everyone said it was unConstitutional.

    That was why it was defeated back in the mid-’90s: because it was way to far to the extreme right. Today that exact same ‘too-extreme-far-right’ bill is called Socialism because a Democrat agreed with the far-right extremists to pass their own bill…

  39. ComradeRutherford says:

    As I said, “The [Republicans] are on schedule to GAIN even more seats in the House and pick up seats in the Senate, and maybe even GET THE MAJORITY in the SENATE in 2014. And these numbers are before their voter-suppression tactics are factored in.

    Republicans ARE winning. Facts show that.

  40. Bill_Perdue says:

    The parties are the same on most questions, especially those that deal with wars of aggression, making the richer richer and putting the finishing touches on their police state.

    Democrats are not part of the left, they’re a right centrist party.

  41. chris10858 says:

    I agree with Comrade. The Republicans are masters at deception and win many elections across the country. If the Republicans had proposed the exact same law as Obamacare, they would have named it something like JesusCare or PatriotCare and would have 100% of Republicans supporting it and would have probably been able to get a couple of blue dog Democrats to support it as well.

    Democrat leadership (and indeed Dems across the country) need to learn to do better in marketing progressive ideals to the American public. Either that or take a page out of the Republican handbook and call out Republicans as liars in every single interview and debate.

    Plus, Obama needs to take 5 minutes away from trying to listen in on everyone’s phone calls and emails and start promoting Obamacare. I follow things like this and even I have no clue what and when things are being rolled out for the program this year or next year. Obama needs to be going on TV in a couple of those special Oval Office evening broadcasts that Reagan and other Presidents used to do and sell this program.

    No, he won’t do that though, cause he’s a pussy at standing up for what he believes in unless its standing up to progressives who are trying to get progressive laws passed. I love to listen to Obama speak and get inspired by him but as a force for good, I’ve given up on him and am ready to vote Hillary into the White House. She may not be that much more a friend of real progressives but at least she will stand up to the Republicans.

  42. Strepsi says:

    I don’t agree they’re winning, but the right has been MUCH more successful than the left at propaganda, it is true. Karl Rove (brilliantly) realized the flaw in the media is its tendency to show “2 sides” to everything, so he made the right’s side an outrageous lie on the far far-right. Thus the “golden mean” where journalists are taught the truth is, also moved right — and gives the lie 50% credence! Also, if you define your opponent before he defines himself, your branding sticks as much as his own: this is how the right beat Kerry, Dukakis, and Mondale.

    Propaganda gets to the heart of Obamacare — it is a branding issue

    @ John Aravosis, re: “People hated the name – the concept – of the law, rather than the law itself. The specifics of the law, they loved.” <– this is branding. it's marketing.

    New Coke had better features than Pepsi (100% of the taste-tests run by both companies showed it tasted better) but it ran against Coke's brand and failed spectacularly.

    Marketing studies show that people make many decisions for irrational, emotional reasons (which is why I believe Capitalism 101 of rational actors spouted by Republicans is plain incorrect). There is an opportunity for Obama here to clearly, easily brand and explain ACA in cool, simple terms in plain English relatable to that 60% Hispanic, young, and poor audience.

  43. Whitewitch says:

    They are not winning…sorry. The world is changing and becoming a better place, little by little. Some steps forward and some back. The truth is that it is better. American’s are confused right now, they are hearing things from the left and the right that are scary and intentionally so. For me I see little difference between the left and right sometimes…so I can understand their confusion. NSA – how is President Obama’s action any different than the scary right, Wars – everywhere and more heading our way. So I think doing the “Chicken Little” dance is not helpful.

  44. ComradeRutherford says:

    “The Republicans wonder why they’re having a hard time winning elections.”

    Republicans are NOT having any trouble winning elections. They are on schedule to gain even more seats in the House and pick up seats in the Senate, and maybe even get the majority in the Senate in 2014. And these numbers are before their voter-suppression tactics are factored in.

    They barely lost the White House to Obama in 2012 mostly because they ran Rmoney and his willfully ignorant privilege attitude. Had they ran an astute politician, Obama would have lost big.

    Republicans are winning BECAUSE they control almost all of US media that they have been steadily taking over since the 1980s. Republicans are winning because they’ve brainwashed their constituents into believing any lie they make up, like ‘Obamacare is Socialism’, when in Real Life, the whole idea of using Big Government to force everyone to buy health insurance from for-profit companies came from the far-right Heritage Foundation.

  45. cole3244 says:

    like most dems obama is a fraud as far as being different from the gop, and as far as the eye can see all the alternatives are just as bad if not worse than obama, at least as far as the true left is concerned.

  46. Bill_Perdue says:

    Obamacare is a travesty. It’s carefully crafted to
    make maximum profits for insurance companies especially HMO’s and
    pharmaceutical giants.

    Obama betrayed (1) the public option and never even considered socialized
    medicine, which is what’s really needed. His betrayal came after he had a
    couple of dozen secret meetings (2) with corporate owners and manager from
    insurance companies, HMO’s and Big Pharma. His betrayal was the result of his
    acceptance of over $20 million in bribes – aka, campaign contributions – from
    the same people. (3) Congress got similar bribes. (4) Most Americans, including
    the Congress, have a very fuzzy of idea of the basics of Obamacare and the
    corruption that crafted it.

    (1) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIHM-JxJqy0

    public option

    (2) “President Barack Obama has hosted at least 27 meetings with
    some of the most influential private health-industry executives in the country
    in an effort to lacate or at least quiet potential opponents of reform in what
    remains a tenuous legislative process… On Wednesday morning, the Los Angeles Times published a story
    revealing that the Obama White House was refusing to release records of
    meetings it had allegedly held with 18 private health care industry executives
    (the number ended up being 15).
    Later in the day, CREW filed a lawsuit against the Department of Homeland
    Security seeking to obtain those records. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/07/22/obamas-private-health-car_n_243115.html

    (3) “Obama Received $20 Million from Healthcare Industry in
    2008 Campaign – Almost three times the amount given to McCain – While some
    sunlight has been shed on the hefty sums shoveled into congressional
    campaign coffers in an effort to influence the Democrats’ massive
    healthcare bill, little attention has been focused on the far larger sums
    received by President Barack Obama while he was a candidate in 2008. A new
    figure, based on an exclusive analysis created for Raw Story by the Center
    for Responsive Politics, shows that President Obama received a staggering
    $20,175,303 from the healthcare industry during the 2008 election cycle,
    nearly three times the amount of his presidential rival John McCain. McCain
    took in $7,758,289, the Center found.
    https://www.commondreams.org/headline/2010/01/12-9

    (4)
    http://www.consumerwatchdog.org/newsrelease/health-insurers-and-drug-companies-contributed-262-million-111th-congress

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