NYT: IOC may ban Olympic athletes who stand up to Russian homophobia

A scathing news story from the New York Times‘ Jeré Longman about the fecklessness of the International Olympic Committee, and the US Olympic Committee, in the face of Russian threats to arrest gay, and gay-friendly, Olympic athletes and guests at the 2014 Winter Olympics in Sochi, Russia.

Longman reports that not only did the IOC not lift a finger to pressure the Russians to lay off their gay-bashing, but the US Olympic Committee in a recent letter published by Chris Geidner at Buzzfeed sounded like it was more concerned about competing than human rights:

“While we strongly support equal rights for all, our mission is sustained competitive excellence and our focus will be to deliver a well prepared team and to put our athletes in a position to be the best they can be.”

Why add that in a letter purportedly expressing concern about the safety of our athletes?  That’s the equivalent of the infamous “yes, but.”

©Ken Kidd.

Things are so bad in Russia that the Associated Press just reported that President Obama is canceling plans to meet Russian President Vladimir Putin next month in Moscow during the G20 summit.  Why? Because of Edward Snowden, but also because of US “human rights” concerns, aka gay rights in Russia, an administration official just confirmed to me.

What’s more, the International Olympic Committee may punish gay athletes who stand up to Russia’s attempts to – wait for it – punish gay athletes. That could pose problems for athletes like New Zealand speedskater Blake Skjellerup, who has pledged to wear a rainbow pin at the 2014 Winter Olympics in Sochi, a move that is illegal under Russian law.

Blake-Skjellerup

Of course, even more troublesome, if the IOC punishes Olympic athletes for wearing rainbow pins – which aren’t really political at all, the pin simply means you’re gay, which is no different than saying you’re black, or you’re Jewish – then the IOC will be agreeing, and enforcing, Russia’s perverse new law which states that anything that isn’t anti-gay is “pro-gay.”

The IOC will quite literally become an arm of the authoritarian Russian state, enforcing Russian law, and thus violating its own charter’s commitment to human rights, since the IOC will be agreeing that human rights are political, and politics are banned from the Olympics, thus human rights are banned.

I may not be explaining this clearly enough.  Russia says that if Blake Skjellerup appears on television with his boyfriend, just as all Olympians have their families at the Games with them, then Skellerup is committing an illegal political act. Will the Olympics be kicking Skjellerup, or any other gay athlete, out of the games if they appear in public with their spouses, since the host country clearly defines those acts are political, and politics are banned per the IOC?

And if the IOC refuses to let gay Olympic athletes, and guests, be arrested by the Russian authorities for simply appearing in public with their spouses, then the IOC will itself be acting “politically,” in violation of its own charter – since the IOC tells us that standing up to Russia’s law is banned political activity.

Thus, under the IOC’s own logic, not only must the International Olympic Committee not interfere with Russia’s efforts to arrest gay Olympics, the IOC must actively work with the Russians to commit gross violations of human rights against its own Olympians.

Still not sounding like 1936?

Here’s the NYT:

Olympic officials worldwide, including those in the United States, along with NBC and corporate sponsors, have put themselves and athletes in an awkward position by only tepidly opposing the Russian law that bans “homosexual propaganda.”….
[T]hose who organize, broadcast and underwrite the Games have offered little beyond tardy and lukewarm criticism.

The Olympic charter calls sport a human right that should be practiced “without discrimination of any kind.” But all the indignation the I.O.C. could muster about Russia’s new antigay law was a statement saying the Olympic Committee would “oppose in the strongest terms any move that would jeopardize this principle.”

Just as the I.O.C. said it had received assurances that the law would not be enforced at the Sochi Games, Russia’s sports minister said that it would be.

The Times didn’t have much of anything nice to say about the US Olympic Committee either, even though the Russian actions are a direct violation of the Olympic charter. More from the Times (including that earlier quote):

The United States Olympic Committee could have joined with Olympic committees from other nations and said they would not tolerate such a discriminatory law.

But that did not happen. And American officials decided not to speak out unilaterally. Scott Blackmun, the U.S.O.C.’s chief executive, sent a note to American Olympic officials saying, “While we strongly support equal rights for all, our mission is sustained competitive excellence” and not political advocacy.

The Times also notes that McDonald’s and Coke, two of the big corporate sponsors of the 2014 Winter Olympics in Sochi, Russia, have remained mute about Russia’s violent crackdown, even though the Russian actions are in violation of the companies’ own non-discrimination polices.

I’m actually kind of stunned as to how good this story is.  And coming on the heels of President Obama’s comments last night on the Jay Leno show, about Russia’s threats to arrest gay and gay-friendly Olympic athletes, the Olympics are finding themselves in quite a pickle.


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  • Temper

    TLDR: I am an educated and well-spoken bigot.

  • Sophia Mefford

    So the Taliban, Russia, and Conservative Christians are all very similar in their attitude towards the LGBT community. Who would have thought?

  • Guest

    If the IOC does go through with this. I think I will never watch the olympics again. There are other high level sporting competitions, and this is a completely unacceptable position for them to take.

  • fightback

    White wolf’s comment show just how little he knows about sexuality in all its forms. I cannot even begin to know where to start in counteracting his remarks, or indeed whether they would make any difference to his already ‘conditioned’ mentality. And as far as the ‘God Bless Britain’. for your information, Britain had quite a few ‘GAY’ warriors, exploers and inventors by the way. But as a Russian, you wouldn’t know that would you? Oh and Russia, particularly St Petersburg, has a long history of gay figures too, but as a Russian, i’m sure you do know that already.

  • Chris from Vancouver Canada.

    There is a petition to move winter Olympics,last host.vancouver just had gay festival. Including large
    Gay Pride Parade. Also have Gay Marriage in Canada.

  • Chris from Vancouver Canada.

    There is a petition to have Olympics moved from Russia to Vancouver. Not sure if time to get organized. Cost almost billion just for security. Had successful Gay Pride Festival last week.

  • http://www.rebeccamorn.com/mind BeccaM

    Thank you.

  • james Gay and PROUD

    like in Vancouver Canada

  • 2patricius2

    Congratulations!

    And as you so fittingly write: “Progress, but obviously we have a long way to go.”

  • 2patricius2

    Not to mention the “Rat Olympics.” They sued Tom Waddell to stop his use of the word Olympics for the Gay Olympics. But they never stopped the use of the word for the athletic feats of rats.

  • Cpt_Justice

    http://jonathanturley.org/2013/08/02/russian-gays-forced-to-drink-urine-and-beaten-as-part-of-cure-by-nationalist-thugs/

    http://americablog.com/2013/07/russian-vigilantes-kidnapping-beating-young-gays.html

    None so blind as those who will not see; there are only historical parallels to gays being like Nazis if you LIE.

    Oh, & the “corrective rapes” were not being laid at Russia’s door; Mr. Fry was speaking of worldwide bigotry. But I’ll wager you any amount of money we will see that next. Posts such as yours show a breathtaking callousness where such an idea would flourish.

  • Cpt_Justice

    Exactly. It’s not just them refusing to have a moment of silence for the Israeli athletes murdered at the 72 Games – it’s also their ongoing refusal to allow a “Gay Olympics.” They have a “Special Olympics” & a “Senior” Olympics. Of course, their excuse as always been “gays get to compete in the regular Olympics.” Well, OBVIOUSLY, NOT ANYMORE!

  • Cpt_Justice

    Unfortunately, you are absolutely correct.

  • http://www.rebeccamorn.com/mind BeccaM

    Thanks, Lynchie. We appreciate it very much. Take care!

  • Thom Allen

    When I read it, I thought that it was almost poetic.

  • lynchie

    A heartfelt congratulations to you both. We have come a long way but the journey is long and arduous. Enjoy each other.

  • lynchie

    That would be true here if we really followed the constitution, buy W wiped his ass with it and O’highness blew his nose on it.

  • lynchie

    I would not bet on it.

  • lynchie

    When Avery Brundige was head of the IOC he condemned John Carlos and Tommy Smith and sent them home in shame. He was on the U.S. committee during the 2nd world war when Jessie Owens won 4 medals when Owens returned and did some paid appearances Brundige stripped him of his medals. The IOC is a secretive cabal. They did not condemn China for civil rights violations before the Olympics there. They will do nothing and Obama will do nothing .They will cite the need for the athletes to compete, so NBC, IOC, Russian Government, Coke, Bob Costas all pull in their piles of cash. The games will go on and the Russians will do what they do and some very brave gay and lesbian athletes and attendees will stand up and be counted. Let us hope that some sanity will prevail. For me I have no faith in a President who kills almost daily and lies on Leno’s show about the NSA spying.

  • silas1898

    The Jamaican bobsled team might win the gold medal then.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcrEqIpi6sg Moderator4

    White Wolf, you are banned. Good bye.

  • http://www.rebeccamorn.com/mind BeccaM

    Thank you, Bomer. You’re most kind.

  • http://www.rebeccamorn.com/mind BeccaM

    And congrats right back at’cha! That’s wonderful. And yes, the San Bernardino county clerks office staffers are terrific. In fact, I’d recommend them for just about anybody in the U.S. southwest looking for a hassle-free California civil marriage.

  • Emcee, cubed

    Congrats! My husband and I were also married in San Bernardino last Friday (the closest CA county clerk’s office to our Las Vegas home). Everyone there was wonderful to us, and it was all very easy to manage.

  • Bomer

    Congratulations to both you and your wife!

  • Whitewitch

    Hi John – is it truly true that Obama cancelled because of his concern over this issue – or is it only because of Snowden. I hope that is true.

  • http://www.rebeccamorn.com/mind BeccaM

    Thanks Jim.

  • Jim Olson

    Hooray!

  • AmusedAgain

    Want the attention of the IOC and the USOC? Start with, “I’d like to buy the world a PEPSI.” Follow the MONEY. It’s all they understand.

  • http://www.americablog.com/ Naja pallida

    The Olympics, even with all the bigotry, is a huge cash cow for NBC, which has been struggling for years and slipping in the ratings. They’re not going to do anything to rock the boat too much.

  • http://www.rebeccamorn.com/mind BeccaM

    Thank you, you’re most kind.

    The number of bigots is indeed dwindling, and even the fence-sitters are moving toward the ideal of equality and acceptance. Of course, that doesn’t mean they’ll stop trying, even when they lose.

    To wit:
    http://justiceforall.firedoglake.com/2013/08/06/dear-prop-8-supporters-you-lost-stop-now-or-continue-to-make-fools-of-yourselves/

    (h/t Alvin McEwen at FDL)

    Alliance Defending Freedom (sic) is asking the California Supreme Court to require the state’s county clerks to continue enforcing Proposition 8. ADF asserts that the recent ruling on Prop. 8 by the U.S. Supreme Court did not address the measure’s constitutionality, which means a judge’s 2010 injunction does not apply
    statewide.

    In a way, they’re right. The Supreme Court did not address Prop H8′s constitutionality because two lower courts — district and 9th Circuit Appeals — had ruled that it wasn’t constitutional. What they did rule on was to say that 3rd party defendants did not have standing to keep appealing (and re-filing) the case. Only the State of California did, and they declined to do so.

    Despite the follow-up claim that the CA Supremes had said the measure’s defendants did have standing to file in Federal court, well, SCOTUS trumped that.

    “Public officials should enforce the marriage amendment because they
    are not bound by the district court’s injunction,” says ADF senior counsel Austin Nimocks.

    Wrong. They are. As is anyone serving in the California state or local governments.

    The group responded to the state’s attorney general and officials who say Proposition 8 should not be enforced. California’s governor and attorney general have mandated all county clerks in the state to issue marriage licenses to homosexual couples.

    Because that’s the job of the Executive and Judicial branches — to tell the administrators what the law says and means. It’s not up to county clerks to decide for themselves how any given law is to be interpreted or enforced.

    The clerks have latitude on how they run their offices and set up procedures, but that’s as far as it goes.

    “The U.S. Supreme Court did not rule on the constitutionality of Proposition 8 and the district court’s injunction does not apply statewide,” Nimocks tells OneNewsNow. “Therefore, county clerks in California should abide by the state constitution and Proposition 8.”

    Again, Nimocks is full of it, because the Federal District and 3-judge 9th Circuit Appeals courts did rule on the constitutionality and SCOTUS said 3rd party groups like ADF were improperly given standing to continue to defend the proposition.

    Anyway, most nearly everybody but the bigots are assuming the California Supremes will toss this right out. However, I do think it serves as a useful reminder how even when we’ve won, we dare not stop fighting for one minute. Besides a majority of our gay brethren and lesbian sisters in this country — including my newly wedded wife and me — still do not have full equality under the law.

  • cole3244

    capitalism is all about the bottom line everything else is secondary at best.

  • rerutled

    My glass ball tells me that a more effective protest — other than demanding boycott and moving the Olympics — would center around demanding that President Obama issue a Presidential Proclaimation that, for the three hours around the Olympic Opening Ceremony, the ceremonial flag of the United states will be the Rainbow Flag; such that it will be carried at the front of our delegation at the parade (and flanked by our official traditional Stars and Stripes as well), and at the same time flown over all government buildings, military installations and embassies world wide.

    This form of protest has the advantages that: (a) It would be an official act of the United States which would compel compliance by the USOC, and would not rely on the many uncoordinated decisions of individual athletes who would be threatened with expulsion prior to competing; (b) it could conceivably happen — Obama’s friends would want him to do it, his enemies would fulminate that he might do it, all because both could imagine him doing it; (c) if it doesn’t happen, it’s an embarrassment — the US wouldn’t even hold a simple flag at opening ceremonies to make a small statement on behalf of people who are oppressed? — and if it does happen, hey! it happened!

  • http://www.rebeccamorn.com/mind BeccaM

    And in any case, if the IOC rules committee told him to “butch it up, or else”, I have little doubt he’d do so.

  • http://www.rebeccamorn.com/mind BeccaM

    Asking people to go to Russia, defy Russian law, and put themselves at
    risk of jail is a quite profound request. Too many commentators are just
    flippantly proposing it.

    Particularly since I expect none of those proposing such have bought tickets to Sochi themselves as yet and never would.

    It’s entirely too easy to pretend to principle when it’s other people’s courage and personal risk on the line.

  • FLL

    You and your wife make America a stronger nation. The dwindling number of bigots look at the two of you and surely see that their hopes for anti-gay pogroms in America will forever be pipe dreams.

  • john simone

    I hope you hide your children from all the nakedness at hetersexual Mardi Gras Parades. Either that or you are a freaking hypocrite.

  • emjayay

    Yes it is getting traction in mainsteam media. That’s one reason why advocating for moving the Olympics or boycotting Stoli or anything else is all good.

  • Fellow Traveler

    Re: John Carlos and Tommie Smith- 1968.

  • rerutled

    You forgot juice of 1 lemon (however, I use one lime instead). The cherry and orange are considered “optional”; however, without them, the drink veers toward being a gimlet (with club soda added). Even so, I don’t feel bound by the convention.

  • FLL

    Creative video contest! Create a video for each Olympic sponsor. Depictions of atrocities are accepted. Awards for the best video. First entry is for McDonalds:

  • http://www.rebeccamorn.com/mind BeccaM

    ‘White Wolf’ is also apparently entirely unaware of the long tradition of shipboard buggery among British sailors and explorers…

    Then there’s the fact the Greeks — entirely accepting of homosexuality, up to and including Alexander the Great — invented democracy. And the Romans managed to create one of the greatest of the bronze age empires — and didn’t fall until the Christian emperors took over — and they even have records of same-sex marriages.

    Common thread? The adoption of intolerance and prudery as official state policy is what always precedes and accompanies the decline and fall of empires.

  • Skeptical Cicada

    I agree there are logistical problems with either relocating the Games or at least giving gay and pro-gay athletes the option of competing in a safe country. The challenges make the need for activism even more urgent. The hope, of course, is that the threat to yank the Games or provide an alternative venue would pressure Putin into repealing the law.

    I just don’t agree that a bunch of athletes waving rainbow flags would accomplish anything tangible. It would generate some minor media attention, but the law is already gaining media attention. If the idea is that waving flags would embarrass Putin into repealing the law, I don’t think that’s realistic. What it will do is provide some TV images to make straight liberals a false sense of pride that something has been accomplished.

  • emjayay

    2 oz gin
    1 tsp superfine sugar
    3 oz club soda
    1maraschino cherry
    1 slice orange

    That does sound nice. Is there a good substitute for the maraschino cherry?
    Another great maraschino cherry involved trad drink: the Manhattan. So Art Deco.

    Oh if superfine sugar sounds too challenging to anyone, you don’t really need superfine, and if you want it anyway (it is necessary in some other recipes), spin some regular sugar in a blender or food processor for a bit.

  • Skeptical Cicada

    He won’t qualify, and even if he did, he would do exactly what his precious Russia told him to do. He’s apparently too stupid to even understand what the problem is.

  • Skeptical Cicada

    What we need is an alternative venue outside Russia where gay and pro-gay athletes can compete in their events safely and with dignity.

  • emjayay

    There are a lot of logisical problems with relocating these Olympics at this point, even if the recently used for Olympics facilities exist in several locations. Like the venues and housing being already booked, etc.

    There is no reason to not agitate for any and all options at this point and see what happens.

    Three people wearing pins would not matter. Majorities of competitors from many countries pulling out flags during the opening march or whatever they can come up with would.

  • Skeptical Cicada

    LOL. cheers!

  • Skeptical Cicada

    LOL! Now that’s excellent.

  • emjayay

    Apparently there’s something to be said for British education after all. Fry studied English at Cambridge. Even the public (actually public) school educated Beatles were uniformly intelligent and articulate and funny.

  • Skeptical Cicada

    If nothing else, the USOC needs to demand that gay and pro-gay American athletes be allowed to compete in their events in some other country where they will not be at risk.

  • emjayay

    The way to get around it is stuff like Frank Bruni suggested in the NYT and I’m hoping is being organised already – big numbers of athletes pull out rainbow flags (easily hidden, you know, without the stick) during the opening march. Maybe more later on the medal winner podium, like the black power fist guys at Mexico City in 1968.

    And if this keeps getting biggger, marches in Sochi. Anything done when the cameras are rolling. Anything too big for the IOC to do anything about. What are they going to do, throw out the teams from every developed country after they get to Sochi?

  • emjayay

    Please.

  • MeathBedloe

    Anything from NBC yet on this matter?

  • emjayay

    I’ll go with retrogrades. Or prejudiced narrow minded imbecile peasants from the Middle Ages who were insulated from advances in human rights for 70 years and now live in a corrupt kleptocracy that combines the worst features of the Soviet system and the previous Czarist regimes.

  • http://www.rebeccamorn.com/mind BeccaM

    That bad, huh? Ugh. I guess the local geography is tailor-made to hold the smog in.

  • emjayay

    You should have seen the air there in 1970! Or try Bejing now.

  • http://www.rebeccamorn.com/mind BeccaM

    Thanks Pete!

  • KingCranky

    Poor baby, always wetting yourself in terror anytime you hear or read the words “gay” or “lesbian” or “homosexual” or “same sex marriage”.

    How does it feel knowing the people you irrationally hate are far better than you’ll ever be?

  • PeteWa

    Great news, Becca!
    Wishes for a long and happy life together!

  • kmcdevitt

    Succinct. Pert. To the point and well-structured. A+

  • kmcdevitt

    Oy, such a jackass. If you don’t like the way we do things here in the (much more successful, happier, healthier) states, haul your bigoted ass back to (sad, poor, oppressed but thankfully less gay) Russia, and take your hate with you.

  • kmcdevitt

    Thank you so much your reply to this person. Well done.

  • kmcdevitt

    You take some pains to make yourself sound like a reasonable person, and maybe you do sound like a reasonable Russian. Maybe you haven’t seen some of the video and photos that have been making the rounds lately with regard to the reprehensible way (“retrograde” isn’t nearly descriptive enough) you treat your own people who happen to be LGBT, but coming to a website discussion like this one, all shark smiles and condescending “reason” doesn’t fool anyone except possibly yourself. Finally, you round off your failed attempt at polite discourse with a reference to the twilight of the gods, or as Americans who share your mindset would call it, Armageddon, the Apocalypse, or whatever; the End of the World kind of shuts down the possibility of an further discussion.

    You know what I wouldn’t want my kid to see? The brutal beating and torture of your own young people. Like many of your mindset, your priorities are completely skewed. You make me tired. Stay in Russia.

  • Anonymous

    The amazing thing is that straight people think they’re safe. It’s a witch hunt; there are no rules.

  • http://parkandbark.wordpress.com/ Houndentenor

    If you do not like what happens in the gay pride parade, then don’t go. People have the right to say things I don’t like and do things of which I do not approve. No one is making me watch or agree with them. Suppressing their right to assemble or speak or express is NOT a right granted to me. Yes, England should be proud of any number of it’s gays including Alan Turing who broke the Enigma code and whose work led to modern computers.

  • http://www.rebeccamorn.com/mind BeccaM

    Thank you, sweetie. :-)

  • Anonymous

    So why don’t you live in Russia? (This is a rhetorical question.)

  • chris10858

    … and this is why your country is now being compared across the globe to third world countries in Africa and pre-WWII Nazi Germany.

  • http://www.rebeccamorn.com/mind BeccaM

    True enough, not very romantic at all. Fascinating and rather awesome topography on the way in to town via I-15 though, but insane amounts of smog as we dropped in altitude. The air literally looked dirty and unsafe to breathe. I don’t know how the locals can stand it.

    The important thing from our point of view was (1) would they take a phone appointment (you’d be surprised how many counties say they won’t) and (2) closest possible proximity to a drive in from New Mexico. San Bern fit the bill on both of those. Apparently we could’ve married in their county’s satellite office in Hesperia, but we didn’t realize it until after the fact. Besides, that extra distance might’ve been a problem for our witness friend.

  • http://parkandbark.wordpress.com/ Houndentenor

    Agreed. People can actually be jailed just for speaking up for gay rights, even if they aren’t gay. This isn’t about inheritance rights. This is about being jailed for what in most countries would be covered under free speech laws or Constitutional Rights.

  • chris10858

    I say it’s about time protesters started showing up outside the IOC and American Olympic committee members homes and workplaces protesting their inaction. Let them see how it is to be singled out and shamed.

  • chris10858

    We in the lgbt community need to push back on each organization that either seems tepid in it’s response or even oblivious to the cause. If Coke, McDonald’s or even the American Olympic Committee is protested like the vodkas were, they would fall over themselves trying to come out against the anti-gay laws.

  • Anonymous

    Keep believing the lies. You trust leaders to protect you, treat you as special, while they harm others. A snake is a snake, don’t expect not to get bitten.
    After the Olympics you are all screwed.

  • http://parkandbark.wordpress.com/ Houndentenor

    The IOC didn’t stand up for Jewish athletes in Berlin in 1936 (the American Committee pulled Jewish athletes from competing in the games) and they aren’t going to stand up for gay athletes in 2014 either. The only thing that will change is a huge public embarrassment. The pressure needs to stay on for the next six months.

  • Jeremy Hodder

    i have but one word for you white wolf you and your whole country since you think you all agree with this law. NAZIS. that is all. remember what happened to them last time around? get ready for your country to go under buddy, cause it has started for you. you won’t be prepared but worse is coming.

  • Anonymous

    Seconded. Oh, the irony.

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    Congrats my dears!!!!!

  • Monoceros Forth

    San Bernardino! I’ve been there. Not the most romantic spot for a wedding but then that’s not the important thing is it :)

  • http://www.rebeccamorn.com/mind BeccaM

    Thank you, SC. :-)

  • Skeptical Cicada

    Nice try. As you well know, we are facing an orchestrated full-court press to shut down any activism toward a boycott or relocation. The tactic of choice is to try to divert people into some idiotic and utterly pointless effort to get three kids to wear lapel pins in the opening ceremony. If you’re advocating that nonsense, you’re part of the problem.

  • Kelly Shelton

    Russians are nowhere near stoning gays? Really now? Could’ve fooled me since a Russian Lawmaker is pushing to publicly whip them.

    http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2013/06/20/russia-mp-calls-for-law-allowing-gays-to-be-whipped-in-public-squares/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Pinknews+%28Pink+News%29

  • Skeptical Cicada

    Wow! Hurray and Congratulations!!!!
    Perfect antidote.

  • Badgerite

    They do understand that we are not just talking about something like ‘equal opportunity’ at the workplace or something. People have been killed with the acquiescence of the Russian government. This goes a bit beyond the idea of marriage equality, where you could, conceivably, look the other way.

  • Mark_in_MN

    On one level, I understand the rule against political displays. The big problem, however, is that the way the IOC has long applied that rule is too broad. The demonstration at the Mexico City olympics, dealing with this issue in Russia, etc. shouldn’t be seen as political acts, but as pro-human rights acts. In other words, they would be acts that call attention to and further the supposed ideals of the Olympics, but which never really get anything more than (rather limp) lip service. To some extent, that’s not really surprising, the IOC membership has long been filled with elites and has become more of a business concern than a “movement” as they like to style themselves.

  • rerutled

    I don’t think you are reading carefully what I, or others, write on this page, because your comments aren’t responsive. You are simply venting anger.

    For example: I’m not Gay, Inc, or represent the Democratic party — if my opinions seem to have anything in common with them, I assure you we arrived at those opinions quite separately.

    Also, the subject of my comment is unrelated to supporting the boycott or relocation, which you assert I am “trying to shut down talk of”. I suppose you could say I am doing that by not using every word I write to demand it; I do think we should continue to demand it, but so far the tactics employed have been insufficient, and I think it’s because straight folks don’t understand the physical danger LGBT folks will face from thugs (or they don’t care — which they should, because it’s not like the thugs ask for your LGBT membership card, they just call you ‘faggot’ then unleash). Probably the best tactic would be for LGBT media to widely publicize the anti-gay violence happening all over Russia; done effectively, this would dissuade potential attendees from going (a prospect the IOC would take notice of). The mantra should be: “The thugs aren’t going to ask for your LGBT card; they’ll see you as a ‘Westerner’, call you faggot, and then kidnap, torture and kill you”. Because that is indeed what is going to happen.

    However, I do frequently stand about uselessly sipping cocktails. Recently I’ve been into the Tom Collins. You should have one.

  • nicho

    I’ll take gays over “warriors” any day. Apparently, you’re stuck in a previous century — just like your native country, which has turned into a gangster state — a backwards one, but gangsters nonetheless.

  • http://www.rebeccamorn.com/mind BeccaM

    Thanks, Nicho.

  • nicho

    Congratulations.

  • nicho

    Yes, a lot of Russians living in the US are religious bigots and not above violence themselves. A lot of them were sponsored by the right-wing hate churches.

  • http://www.rebeccamorn.com/mind BeccaM

    By the way, to offset the bigoted awfulness of the comments by ‘White Wolf’ below, I’d like to share some positive news:

    On Monday morning, 5 Aug 13, my wife and I — married previously in a private religious ceremony about 14 1/2 years ago — were legally married in a civil ceremony at the county clerk’s office in San Bernardino, California.

    A good friend drove up from LA to witness for us. The deputy clerk was wonderful and incredibly helpful through the entire process of applying, filling out the license, and finally officiating over the non-religious solemnization. We were actually done and back on the road to drive home to New Mexico in less than an hour.

    In a bittersweet note, our clerk told us that it was one of her co-workers who officiated over this very first wedding at their office:

    A Rancho Cucamonga man who taught 17 years at a Catholic high school was fired from his job days after he married his gay partner in a San Bernardino civil ceremony.

    While school representatives declined comment on the matter, an attorney representing 45-year-old Ken Bencomo says he was fired because of the same-sex ceremony.

    “The reason given was that the marriage occurred and the school’s position was that it violated church teachings,” said Chatsworth attorney Patrick McGarrigle.

    http://www.sgvtribune.com/news/ci_23767763/glendora-catholic-school-fires-gay-teacher-after-publicized

    I recognize the civil ceremony room shown in the story — it’s the same one my wife and I were married in.

    Progress, but obviously we have a long way to go. And a war we must never stop fighting against those who cheer Russia’s anti-gay pogrom.

  • sherman

    I lost enthusiasm for the Olympics 31 years ago, living in SF, when the USOC sued to prevent the Gay Olympics from using the name, which led to the Gay Games name. They seemed to be particularly nasty and vindictive.

    “The suit wreaked havoc on the life of Dr. Tom Waddell, a doctor and former Olympian who helped found the Gay Games. Waddell nearly lost his home as a result of the suit while he was suffering from the effects of AIDS.” http://web.archive.org/web/20060527003250/http://www.sfbg.com/News/35/49/49olysb2.html

  • Skeptical Cicada

    If you don’t like faggotry, then don’t engage in it, bigot. Meanwhile, get your bigoted nose out of this faggot’s business.

  • http://www.rebeccamorn.com/mind BeccaM

    ‘Faggotry’ huh? Enjoy your sure to be extremely brief visit here.

    Nah, never mind, I’ll say it again: Fuck off, you ignorant hateful intolerant bigot.

  • Skeptical Cicada

    Of course there won’t be, you fucking do-nothing tool. So stop running interference for the IOC and stomping on activist talk about boycotting or relocating the Games. You go to Sochi, wear your little lapel pin, and accomplish absolutely nothing but appeasement.

  • http://www.rebeccamorn.com/mind BeccaM

    Wonderfully put, Gridlock. Brilliant.

  • Monoceros Forth

    Doubt anyone (male or female) is that interested in you anyway, so I daresay you’re safe. Also you’re probably as Russian as I am.

  • Skeptical Cicada

    Which is exactly why shutting down talk of boycott or relocation of the Games in favor of this utterly ineffectual idea of wearing lapel pins is such an outrageous act of cowardice by Gay Inc.

  • White Wolf

    Umm, please try to read carefully. I am an ethnic Russian from Russia. And yes, I strongly prefer bigotry to faggotry=) Tastes differ, don’t you know.

  • Gridlock

    “this particular law truly represents the consensus of an overwhelming majority of Russians. ”

    Then the overwhelming majority of Russians are bigoted idiots.

    “Some may call us retrogrades, we prefer to think of ourselves as healthy conservatives.”

    See point 1.

    “We are infinitely far fromarresting gays, stoning them to death or whatever else”

    http://www.thegailygrind.com/2013/08/06/gay-teenager-kidnapped-and-tortured-by-russian-neo-nazi-group-is-believed-to-have-died-from-his-injuries-video/

    They’re being tortured and killed. You are not far from it. You are neck deep in it, you ignorant twit.

    “but we vote for prohibition of public demonstration of homosexuality.”

    .. and how would you feel if the public demonstration of heterosexuality was suddenly made illegal?

    “irst, it’s ridiculous:if I kissed a girl yesterday, why would I write it on some poster and make a
    manifestation?”

    … because LGBT citizens do not enjoy all the rights you were awarded when you were shot out of your mother’s vagina, an accident of birth. That’s why. It is unequal.

    “We don’t care what you do in your own bedroom, but for God’s sake, don’t expose it in public: there’s no sense, no logic and no dignity in it.”

    Holding hands, sharing a kiss, putting an arm around your partner, these things are done outside of the bedroom by everybody else, by people like you, and you are not beaten, lynched or murdered for it.

    “Second, I am sincerely amusedby Mr. Fry’s tales about poor fate of LGBT Russians. I’ve never ever heard of any “corrective” rape of a lesbian, for example, and can’t really imagine that happening.”

    … well because you have not personally experienced it, I guess it never happens. What a stupid argument. Educate yourself: http://www.hrw.org/news/2011/12/12/beyond-corrective-rape

    “isn’t it the same old good gay fascism which manifested itself in bullying the members of the American Psychological Association for reluctance in deciding if homosexuality is a deviation or not?”

    … No, that decision was arrived at scientifically. Something Russians could do with investigating instead of relying on hocus pocus from the Orthodox Church, presently in bed with Putin.

    Frighteningly enough, your opinion (blighted, bigoted, and uneducated as it is) seems to be du jour for this subject. Pretty much every Russian I’ve met on the internet is poopooing the entire thing and hilariously enough, too busy creating a victim complex about how persecuted they are for their “conservative” beliefs.

    It’s no wonder you remain as backwards as you are.

  • http://www.rebeccamorn.com/mind BeccaM

    Most likely. It’s certainly the same talking points. And thanks.

  • Skeptical Cicada

    Cheers! Probably living in the US and cutting and pasting bigotry from some religious right hate group.

  • http://www.rebeccamorn.com/mind BeccaM

    Your hatred of gay people is based on lies, particularly about what makes for human sexual orientation.

    Popular support for anti-gay oppression does not make it right. A great many Germans were entirely behind what they did to their Jews, their Romani, those deemed physically or mentally imperfect, and also the gays.

    Playing the Nazi card is entirely justified and appropriate in this instance. Why? Because the current Russian anti-gay propaganda is identical to what the Nazis used. Not just ‘similar’ but identical.

    So we’re the fascists for demanding to be treated like human beings? For objecting to your slanderous portrayal of us as deviants and pedophiles? You so do not belong on this blog and your views regarding homosexuality are reprehensible and disgusting.

    To repeat what my friend Skeptical Cicada says above: You are an ignorant bigot. Fuck off.

  • Monoceros Forth

    …but we still humbly insist on having our own opinion, ideas and mentality.

    Go ahead! Have all the fun being as opinionated, ideological and mental as you like.

    By the way, if you wish to accuse Stephen Fry of pomposity, try not to be pompous yourself.

  • Skeptical Cicada

    You’re an ignorant bigot, unworthy of any response to your nonsense.

  • Skeptical Cicada

    I’m so sick of mealy-mouthed gays trying to shut down talk of a boycott or relocation of the Games with the disgusting diversionary tactic of trying to get three people to wear pins on their lapels during the opening ceremony. Obviously, Gay Inc. has decided to stomp on talk of anything significant, and collaborationist like you are going its bidding. Fuck you, sell outs, I don’t give a damn what the Democratic Party has instructed you to shut down.

  • White Wolf

    As an ethnic Russian, an
    ordinary and undistinguished person, I’d like to share my own view upon the
    words of Mr. Fry.

    First of all, I’d like to
    point out that although I absolutely dislike Putin and his government for
    various reasons, this particular law truly represents the consensus of an
    overwhelming majority of Russians. Some may call us retrogrades, we prefer to
    think of ourselves as healthy conservatives. We are infinitely far from
    arresting gays, stoning them to death or whatever else, but we vote for
    prohibition of public demonstration of homosexuality. First, it’s ridiculous:
    if I kissed a girl yesterday, why would I write it on some poster and make a
    manifestation? Second, it is mauvais ton: for a noble person a single glance at
    the European gay “pride” parades is enough to feel utmost repulsion; no thank you, I don’t want
    my children to ever witness it. We don’t care what you do in your own bedroom,
    but for God’s sake, don’t expose it in public: there’s no sense, no logic and
    no dignity in it.

    Second, I am sincerely amused
    by Mr. Fry’s tales about poor fate of LGBT Russians. I’ve never ever heard of
    any “corrective” rape of a lesbian, for example, and can’t really imagine that
    happening. I am not sure if Mr. Fry knows Russia well, but the monstrosities he
    described are purely fictional. I must admit, however, that our police in many
    cases isn’t really helpful (to put it mildly) but its attitude to heterosexual
    Russians is not a single iota better.

    Third, Mr. Fry expectably couldn’t resist the temptation to play the Nazi card:
    the Godwin’s law in civilized societies clearly defines the border between a
    reasonable argument and a demagogy. Nazis, Hitler, Jews, fascism, all these words
    have so long been used just to label your opponents that all their meaning has
    faded away, leaving empty shells. If that is the case, I have a better reason
    to use them, as Mr. Fry is a vivid example of gay fascism on the march. The
    combination of pseudohistorical parallels, pure fantasy and overconfidence in
    defining what is good and what is bad in order to judge and condemn 140 million
    Russians for their choice, why, isn’t it the same old good gay fascism which
    manifested itself in bullying the members of the American Psychological Association
    for reluctance in deciding if homosexuality is a deviation or not?.. And now
    Mr. Fry is turning fictional stories of LGBT Russians’ suffering into a
    political weapon: a clear association with the Reichstag fire which was used by
    the Nazis to crack down on their political opponents. Historical parallels are
    a double-edged weapon, don’t you know…

    I wasn’t able to register on
    Mr. Fry’s website to leave this reply for him: the registration never worked.
    Maybe I had to sign a secret paragraph expressing my loyalty to the gay
    community or something *smiling*

    So, I just hope he’ll eventually read it here: you sound too pompous and
    nervous to have a point there, dear Mr. Fry. We really appreciate your
    itchiness to teach and “civilize” us, but we still humbly insist on having our
    own opinion, ideas and mentality.

    God bless Britain: once it was proud of its warriors, sailors, explorers and
    inventors. Now it can be proud only of its gays.

    Götterdämmerung.

  • nicho

    The Olympics is just a way for faux-amateur athletes to score enough points to get sponsorship contracts from shoe, clothing, and cereal companies.

  • 2patricius2

    Has the IOC ever been a bastion for human rights?

  • Drew2u

    Okay Olympians, who wants to be the first to call the IOC’s bluff and publicly assert that you will indeed be sporting a rainbow flag / pin / pink triangle / whatever symbol during your time at the Olympics? Who wants to be the first to potentially give up an Olympic title?
    Anyone?

  • http://www.rebeccamorn.com/mind BeccaM

    Beautiful. I wish I had only a fraction of that man’s command of the English language.

    The IOC, by ordering participating athletes and their trainers to comply with Russian neo-fascism and scapegoating, is essentially putting their stamp of Olympic approval on Russia’s anti-gay pogrom. They’re not even saying they’ll assure the safety of participants and visiting viewers; they’re saying “Don’t be gay, look gay, or say there’s nothing wrong with being gay, or the Russians can do with you as they please.”

    The proposal to move the games to a safer country isn’t just taking a principled stand — although that alone ought to be reason enough.

  • Jerry Callender

    absolutely!!!

  • Jerry Callender

    and what else does your glass ball tell you???

  • Jerry Callender

    As in China, the news only reports on what the Government permits the news reporters to see.

  • Jerry Callender

    Yesterday, there was a report of three men and two women beating a man in a Moscow bar because “he looked gay”, and NO ONE came to his defense. There is NO good that will come from allowing the Games to go on in Russia…

  • rerutled

    There is no universe in which even 10% of the US athletes — let alone 100%, plus all of those of Canada, Britain, Belgium, France, and so forth — train their entire lives to show up to the Olympics and take an action which will get them banned from the games. 100% percent of Olympic athletes show up with one thought only: to win, and be the best in the world. There will not be a massive pro-gay demonstration during the Olympic Opening Ceremonies. Nice fantasy, though.

  • sunmusing

    The Olympics are a dying venue…when constant war and brutal insanity runs rampant across our planet, the whole meme of the Olympics has been lost…I stand shoulder to shoulder with my LGBT brothers and sisters to fight the bigotry and the hate…There is more work to do in the USofA before we will see any change elsewhere…this is the “leadership” roll the US has been lacking for years…

  • Thom Allen

    E-mail the press office at the IOC with your comments: [email protected] Jacques Rogge is the Chairman of the IOC. His contact info is below.

    E-mail the US Olympic Committee: [email protected] and/or call: 719-632-5551 or 719-866-4997

    Contact the USOC’s Olympic Athlete Ombudsman’s office and ask what he’s doing to support gay athletes at Sochi:

    John Ruger – Athlete Ombudsman

    Sara Clark – Athlete Ombudsman Specialist

    1 Olympic Plaza, Colorado Springs, CO 80909

    719-866-5000 (office)

    719-866-3000 (fax)

    http://www.athleteombudsman.org

    http://www.facebook.com/usoc.Athlete.Ombudsman

    http://www.twitter.com/USOCombudsman

    Snail mail/phone/fax:

    Jacques Rogge, Chairman, IOC
    Château de Vidy
    Case postale 356
    1001 Lausanne
    Switzerland
    Phone
    +41 21 621 61 11
    Fax
    +41 21 621 62 16

  • Thom Allen

    Steven Fry’s excellent open letter to the IOC, Rogge and the IOC.

    An Open Letter to David Cameron and the IOC
    By Stephen Fry
    August 7th, 2013

    Dear Prime Minister, M Rogge, Lord Coe and Members of the International Olympic Committee,

    I write in the earnest hope that all those with a love of sport and
    the Olympic spirit will consider the stain on the Five Rings that
    occurred when the 1936 Berlin Olympics proceeded under the exultant
    aegis of a tyrant who had passed into law, two years earlier, an act
    which singled out for special persecution a minority whose only crime
    was the accident of their birth. In his case he banned Jews from
    academic tenure or public office, he made sure that the police turned a
    blind eye to any beatings, thefts or humiliations afflicted on them, he
    burned and banned books written by them. He claimed they “polluted” the
    purity and tradition of what it was to be German, that they were a
    threat to the state, to the children and the future of the Reich. He
    blamed them simultaneously for the mutually exclusive crimes of
    Communism and for the controlling of international capital and banks. He
    blamed them for ruining the culture with their liberalism and
    difference. The Olympic movement at that time paid precisely no
    attention to this evil and proceeded with the notorious Berlin Olympiad,
    which provided a stage for a gleeful Führer and only increased his
    status at home and abroad. It gave him confidence. All historians are
    agreed on that. What he did with that confidence we all know.

    Putin is eerily repeating this insane crime, only this time against
    LGBT Russians. Beatings, murders and humiliations are ignored by the
    police. Any defence or sane discussion of homosexuality is against the
    law. Any statement, for example, that Tchaikovsky was gay and that his
    art and life reflects this sexuality and are an inspiration to other gay
    artists would be punishable by imprisonment. It is simply not enough to
    say that gay Olympians may or may not be safe in their village. The IOC
    absolutely must take a firm stance on behalf of the shared
    humanity it is supposed to represent against the barbaric, fascist law
    that Putin has pushed through the Duma. Let us not forget that Olympic
    events used not only to be athletic, they used to include cultural
    competitions. Let us realise that in fact, sport is cultural.
    It does not exist in a bubble outside society or politics. The idea that
    sport and politics don’t connect is worse than disingenuous, worse than
    stupid. It is wickedly, wilfully wrong. Everyone knows politics
    interconnects with everything for “politics” is simply the Greek for “to
    do with the people”.

    An absolute ban on the Russian Winter Olympics of 2014 on Sochi is
    simply essential. Stage them elsewhere in Utah, Lillyhammer, anywhere
    you like. At all costs Putin cannot be seen to have the approval of the
    civilised world.

    He is making scapegoats of gay people, just as Hitler did Jews. He
    cannot be allowed to get away with it. I know whereof I speak. I have
    visited Russia, stood up to the political deputy who introduced the
    first of these laws, in his city of St Petersburg. I looked into the
    face of the man and, on camera, tried to reason with him, counter him,
    make him understand what he was doing. All I saw reflected back at me
    was what Hannah Arendt called, so memorably, “the banality of evil.” A
    stupid man, but like so many tyrants, one with an instinct of how to
    exploit a disaffected people by finding scapegoats. Putin may not be
    quite as oafish and stupid as Deputy Milonov but his instincts are the
    same. He may claim that the “values” of Russia are not the “values” of
    the West, but this is absolutely in opposition to Peter the Great’s
    philosophy, and against the hopes of millions of Russians, those not in
    the grip of that toxic mix of shaven headed thuggery and bigoted
    religion, those who are agonised by the rolling back of democracy and
    the formation of a new autocracy in the motherland that has suffered so
    much (and whose music, literature and drama, incidentally I love so
    passionately).

    I am gay. I am a Jew. My mother lost over a dozen of her family to
    Hitler’s anti-Semitism. Every time in Russia (and it is constantly) a
    gay teenager is forced into suicide, a lesbian “correctively” raped, gay
    men and women beaten to death by neo-Nazi thugs while the Russian
    police stand idly by, the world is diminished and I for one, weep anew
    at seeing history repeat itself.

    “All that is needed for evil to triumph is for good men to do
    nothing,” so wrote Edmund Burke. Are you, the men and women of the IOC
    going to be those “good” who allow evil to triumph?

    The Summer Olympics of 2012 were one of the most glorious moments of
    my life and the life of my country. For there to be a Russian Winter
    Olympics would stain the movement forever and wipe away any of that
    glory. The Five Rings would finally be forever smeared, besmirched and
    ruined in the eyes of the civilised world.

    I am begging you to resist the pressures of pragmatism, of money, of
    the oily cowardice of diplomats and to stand up resolutely and proudly
    for humanity the world over, as your movement is pledged to do. Wave your
    Olympic flag with pride as we gay men and women wave our Rainbow flag
    with pride. Be brave enough to live up to the oaths and protocols of
    your movement, which I remind you of verbatim below.

    Rule 4 Cooperate with the competent public or private organisations
    and authorities in the endeavour to place sport at the service of
    humanity and thereby to promote peace

    Rule 6: Act against any form of discrimination affecting the Olympic Movement

    Rule 15 Encourage and support initiatives blending sport with culture and education

    I especially appeal to you, Prime Minister, a man for whom I have the
    utmost respect. As the leader of a party I have for almost all of my
    life opposed and instinctively disliked, you showed a determined,
    passionate and clearly honest commitment to LGBT rights and helped push
    gay marriage through both houses of our parliament in the teeth of
    vehement opposition from so many of your own side. For that I will
    always admire you, whatever other differences may lie between us. In the
    end I believe you know when a thing is wrong or right. Please act on
    that instinct now.

    Yours in desperate hope for humanity

    Stephen Fry
    – See more at:
    http://www.stephenfry.com/2013/08/07/an-open-letter-to-david-cameron-and-the-ioc/single-page/#sthash.iQNOxLV8.dpuf

  • http://www.rebeccamorn.com/mind BeccaM

    This is exactly what I’ve been saying for days now would be the IOC’s official response: “Into the closet, all of you gays and all of you who support gay people, for the good of the Games’ profits, or else risk disqualification.”

    The IOC still isn’t even addressing the question, ‘Will it be safe for people to be in Sochi for the games, or do they risk assault or worse from the Russian gangs of thugs and anti-gay vigilantes?’

    Sadly, most, if not all of the athletes will agree to the terms, not having any other choice besides not competing.

  • Thom Allen

    No, if enough athletes do it, and were then banned, the Games would be a travesty and be ridiculed worldwide. Who would watch the Olympics if all of the athletes from the US, Canada, Britain, Belgium, France, the Netherlands, Norway, Sweden, Denmark, New Zealand, Spain and Australia were banned? They’d lose billions in revenue not only for this Olympics but would also cause losses for the summer Olympics and possibly the following set of Games. The IOC is too conscious of cash flow and publicity to self-immolate.

  • rerutled

    I suspect the IOC will play this way: (a) talk about facts about yourself, your life, and you’re on safe ground, but: (b) talk about generalities (“LGBTs are an oppressed people!”) or the Russian law, and you’re making a political statement. There’s an awful lot of space in (a) for LGBT athletes to run afoul of the Russian propaganda law (as is desirable to make a statement against it), without violating IOC rules. Of course, there’s no space for non-LGBT athletes in (a) OR (b); which means, the only people who can effectively oppose the law during the games will be non-athletes.

    What I don’t understand is, Russian thugs are violent, and the police are corrupt and complicit, and there *will* be violence against LGBT Olympic attendees (including perceived LGBTs! “You don’t have to be gay to be beaten to death as gay in Russia!” should be a mantra). Our goal should be to shout this loudly now, so that when 5 gay Italian tourists (for example) are kidnapped, tortured and killed, the IOC cannot claim “Who could have known that something so awful would happen?” It is *going* to happen. Guaranteed. We should be telling everybody this, now, everywhere, so that when it does happen, we can rightly point out that their silence now makes them complicit — and it is only the Western institutions which we can have any hope for shame in hypocrisy.

    The IOC, by failing to insure the host country is not involved in legal and extralegal bigotry, has failed its values, and the consequences will be borne by the attendees; the IOC should be told this, a lot, publicly, now.

  • rerutled

    This rainbow flag scenario is not going to happen. It would be viewed as a political demonstration by the IOC, and all athletes involved would be disqualified.

  • http://heimaey.us/ jim morrissey

    Anyone else see George Takei’s article this morning. Pretty cool. http://www.ibtimes.com/george-takei-move-2014-winter-olympics-out-russia-1374805 I agree we need to boycott or move them.

  • anon

    In reality this is worse then the Olympics in NAZI Germany….those Olympics even let Jews and Blacks play…..

  • Restmom

    I’ve never been down with the idea of an Olympic boycott and denying our athletes the opportunity to compete.But I’m starting to rethink that.Snowden aside how can we go in the face of all this .Our country needs to take a stand on this.Words aren’t enough.

  • FLL

    If he qualifies, Johnny Weir would complicate matters even further. He has a fan base in Russia, and his marriage to another man was widely reported in the Russian media. All he has to do is acknowledge a Russian reporter’s question that he’s married, and that would be considered a political act. Anything reported in the media could be heard or viewed by children, so it would fall under the Russian anti-gay law. Things only seem to be getting messier.

  • Thom Allen

    Not at all. He’s just bluster about how poor Mother(fucker) Russia has to suffer because of the benighted West as the economy sucks up billions more rubles from the games.

    We need to get McCain on our side. He’s looking to start a war and he’d push to nuke Moscow and Sochi in a heartbeat.

  • Thom Allen

    This is from the Olympic website:

    Fundamental Principles of Olympism

    1. Olympism is a philosophy of life, exalting and combining in a balanced whole the

    qualities of body, will and mind. Blending sport with culture and education, Olympism

    seeks to create a way of life based on the joy of effort, the educational value of good

    example, social responsibility and respect for universal fundamental ethical principles.

    2. ********The goal of Olympism is to place sport at the service of the harmonious development

    of humankind, with a view to promoting a peaceful society concerned with the

    preservation of human dignity.*********

    3. The Olympic Movement is the concerted, organised, universal and permanent action,

    carried out under the supreme authority of the IOC, of all individuals and entities who

    are inspired by the values of Olympism. It covers the five continents. It reaches its

    peak with the bringing together of the world’s athletes at the great sports festival, the

    Olympic Games. Its symbol is five interlaced rings.

    4. *******The practice of sport is a human right. Every individual must have the possibility of

    practising sport, without discrimination of any kind and in the Olympic spirit, which

    requires mutual understanding with a spirit of friendship, solidarity and fair play.*********

    5. Recognising that sport occurs within the framework of society, sports organisations

    within the Olympic Movement shall have the rights and obligations of autonomy, which

    include freely establishing and controlling the rules of sport, determining the structure

    and governance of their organisations, enjoying the right of elections free from any

    outside influence and the responsibility for ensuring that principles of good governance

    be applied.

    6. ******Any form of discrimination with regard to a country or a person on grounds of race,

    religion, politics, gender or otherwise is incompatible with belonging to the Olympic

    Movement.********

    7. Belonging to the Olympic Movement requires compliance with the Olympic Charter

    and recognition by the IOC.

    NB Numbers 2, 4 and 6 in the above. How can they even CONSIDER banning gay athletes based on what is written in their “Fundamental Principles?” Are those principles only applicable when they don’t inhibit the IOC’s cash flow?

  • http://thetimchannel.wordpress.com/ The Tim Channel

    Putin would hang them with rainbow colored ropes just to piss you off. He’s a lunatic. Enjoy.

  • http://thetimchannel.wordpress.com/ The Tim Channel

    If there was just some way to get the Russian bride industry involved in protesting I think we’d be onto something. That’s a Russian industry that seems to be booming by the looks of my rejected Skype call list. Enjoy.

  • Steven

    This is not going to end well. I can see this issue only getting more traction, and the videos of thugs beating up gay folks will be replayed over and over. That won’t play well in most of this country, even in some redder parts of the map. If the IOC thinks they can sweep this under the rug, they are sadly mistaken.

  • Indigo

    I prefer to boycott Russia entirely.

  • Indigo

    Oh? In that case, the Olympics are dead.

    May father Zeus rise from Mt. Olympus to cast thunderbolts against the treacherous IOC and may Pluto, brother of Zeus, sweep away the ruins of that false committee that dishonors Olympian virtue into Hades.

  • S1AMER

    I’d love to see an opening ceremony where most of the athletes from enlightened countries pulled little rainbow flags out of their pockets and waved them before cameras from the entire world. Then I’d dare Putin to arrest them — or the IOC to send them home.

    More likely, though, Putin’s government will go silent about their laws in the days before the Olympics, and nothing much will happen during the events because, well, it’s sports. So the world press will look the other way and then, after everybody’s gone home, Putin will go back to exploiting homophobia to get religious figures and the bigot-on-the-street ever more solidly behind him.

  • http://thetimchannel.wordpress.com/ The Tim Channel

    Well first off, this whole religiously inspired anti-gay movement in Russia should put to rest the lies of the right wing religious freaks who’ve been telling us all about those Godless Russian Atheist Communists for years now. Who knew that Russia and Mississippi had so much in common? While we’re on the topic of religious whackaloons, I will point out that part two of my article dissecting a stifled Mormon PDF document is now available for your viewing pleasure. I was asked to summarize it by a commenter here on AmericaBlog and I have done so. I have also linked to AmericaBlog in the post acknowledging the input from this blog. I’m trying as hard as possible to be the link whore you all know and love. Cut an old man some slack here. http://thetimchannel.wordpress.com/2013/07/26/mormon-blues-2/
    Enjoy.

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