Gay Russian neo-Nazis

My friend Julie passed along this interview with a gay Russian neo-Nazi, done by Nick Chester at Vice.com.  Julie was trying to point out the fact that Russia still has an ongoing problem with hating Jews, in addition to gays.  But I was more fascinated by the fact that Russia has a gay neo-Nazi organization at all.  So I did some googling, and found a lot more creepy stuff way beyond what’s in the Vice piece.

The group,  Gay Aryan National Socialists (GANS) says it’s been around since 2008.  And if it’s various Web postings are to be believed, they’ve opened a number of chapters in the Russian region, though a chapter could be as few as one pink nazi.

In a way, none of this should be surprising.  I’ve often said that racism, homophobia, sexism – all bigotry – aren’t exclusive to any one race, gender, or sexual orientation.  Gays can be homophobes, blacks can be racist, women can be sexist, and all of them can far too easily hate each other.  Prejudice is an equal-opportunity scourge. (Though you’d be surprised how many people on the (far?) left disagree with that statement. The irony, of course, is that many who disagree give off strong vibes of being bigots themselves, so it’s a convenient form of self-protection.)

According to Vice, this is the actual logo for the organization. (Sadly, vice didn’t link to the neo-Nazi site – but I found other sympathizers online, and have thus confirmed the logo independently.)  Take a close look at the logo.

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I couldn’t find the Gay Aryan National Socialist (GANS) page on VK.com, the site that supposedly was hosting it, but I did find other white Russian nationalist profiles, including one that did in fact appear to be a gay Russian nationalist skinhead who appears to have a thing for Hitler.  Here’s his home page:

gay-russian-nazis-home

And here are a few of his posts – this one for Hitler’s birthday:gay-russian-nazis-hitler

This was one was for some “right bear arms” protest:
gay-russian-nazis

By going through his photos, I was able to find that bizarre logo again on the first official t-shirt that the gay Aryan national socialist group has for sale:

gans-russian-gay-nazi-logo

Translation of the caption: “The first T-shirt with the symbol-GANS went on sale! Ask for it in the shops of the city.”

And this is reportedly the headquarters of the Belarus officer of the gay Aryan group:

gay-aryan-group-belarus

The caption notes the group’s opposition to “homophobia” and Judeo-hryusam, which I believe I’ve found is Christians, meaning Judeo-Christians. I did a bit of googling, and found this in Wikipedia: “The term ‘Judeo–Christian’ did not gain popularity, however, until after The Holocaust in Europe. Reacting against the anti-Semitism of Nazi Germany, European and American commentators sought to redefine Judaism as integral to the history of The West.”

According to the Southern Poverty Law Center, the whole gay Aryan thing is a tad fringe, to say the least, but they do in fact exist.  SPLC says there are even lesbian Aryans.  More from SPLC on the overall genre:

This reality has been acknowledged by some white supremacists. Long-time neo-Nazi Harold Covington, revealing his own homophobia, put it this way: “[T]his movement has a distinct tendency to attract faggots because of the leather-macho image that the System Jew media imparts to the SS uniform.”

Today, life remains tough for the committed gay neo-Nazi. After a heterosexual neo-Nazi chat room called the “Racialist Club of America” expelled “practicing homosexuals” recently, one gay man wrote, “[W]e will never win this war as long as they [straight neo-Nazis] are considered the NORM of white pride groups.”

Another man, in considerably more despair, asked this question: “What does belonging to a group, who would kill you along with everyone else the second they found out what you were really, make you feel like?”

Yes, that awkward moment when you realize that your friendly neighborhood pro-genocide group has a tendency towards intolerance.


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  • JohnBull

    It’s Russia. It’s definitely possible such a group exists.

  • http://AMERICAblog.com/ John Aravosis

    We’re aware that people often use fake, even joke, screen names when going online, especially when posting videos of themselves kidnapping and torturing people. Thanks for that clarification.

  • http://AMERICAblog.com/ John Aravosis

    Was that trans woman who was beaten in a public park, on video, a joke? You have a funny sense of humor.

  • Luigi Proud DemoCat!

    Are you sure this isn’t a joke? I once created a fake KKK group and then used it to offer awards to anti-gay corporations. When I told them they had received an award, asked for a comment, and permission to use their logo in the award announcement, i invariably received threatening communications from corporate attorneys.

    I did this to show these corporations who they were consorting with when they took anti-gay actions and to make them spend executive time and money to deal with me.

    Gay Nazis sounds a little far-fetched to me. I’m not doubting what you found, just wondering if further investigation would expose an attempt to discredit gays. Then, again, there have been a few Jewish Nazis over the years. so if a few Jews could be that depraved, i suppose we have to admit there could be a few sicko gay Nazis as well.

  • Ony Shemed Siemomo Kecil

    wow perfet…….i love nazi..

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/John-Mason/100002230953322 John Mason

    Out of fairness, I think someone should remind the aryan-gayettes of Ruskyville, that Russia fought against Hitler in WWII, and the main, if cloudy in vodka and cold weather, message from their guuvernmint, is that the Russian pols are concerned the birth rate, of having new Russian babies is not good enuf for their ‘central planning’, so dimwit Putin-puke-it up, is deciding to scapegoat gays. Being Nazi and Gay in Russia is like having leprosy and HIV in a gay nudist camp–NOT GOOD!!! lol.

  • Someone

    John Aravosis, it seems that you would believe literally any ridiculous nonsense related to Russia. Literally anything. Again, it’s not April 1st, so there’s no excuse. You go on these Russian sites, armed with a mechanical translator, thinking you know what’s going on, and mistake obvious joke sites for the real thing. And then you announce the discovery of this mythical cryptid – the gay Russian neo-Nazi! You expect to be taken seriously after this?

  • Someone

    It’s quite obviously fake, a kind of “satire” of Russian nationalists. Do you really need this to be explained to you? Those VK profiles are not of real people. The guy’s name “Eros Vsekhmoguschy” is an obvious (in Russian) joke name. It’s not April 1, so why are you posting such obvious nonsense?

  • http://AMERICAblog.com/ John Aravosis

    Yep, just happened to write about that one right after this post:

    http://americablog.com/2013/08/young-gay-teen-tortured-by-russian-vigilantes-reportedly-dies.html

  • http://AMERICAblog.com/ John Aravosis

    It’s not. I went extensively through that guy’s posting, and others. It goes on way too long, in number and time, to be a joke.

  • http://AMERICAblog.com/ John Aravosis

    It’s in English because I used Chrome’s translate button before grabbing the screen shot, so that you could at least understand something from the captions etc :)

  • http://AMERICAblog.com/ John Aravosis

    Not to mention, white supremacists with a sombrero!

  • Bill_Perdue

    Anti-semitism has always been a feature of right wing movements in Russia, the Baltic states and the Ukraine. It was official Tsarist policy, promoted by the Russian orthodox cult and the ‘old believers’ cult. After the Bolsheviks were defeated and purged by Stalin, it became a regular feature of Stalinist policy, as evidenced by the ‘Doctors Plot’. The lurid purge trials of Trotskyists were also lined to anti-semitism because Trotsky, who was murdered by Stalin, was born Jewish.

    “The charge that Stalin attempted to blow up the “Jewish doctors’ plot” of January 1953 to major proportions and convert it into a huge anti-Semitic trial involving high Soviet officials was made by Nikita S. Khrushchev, head of the Soviet Communist Party in an address at the recent Communist Congress in Moscow, it was reported today as the contents of Khrushchev’s sensational anti-Stalin address became known through-diplomatic channels. Khrushchev also charged Stalin with deliberately ordering the murder of two prominent Jewish generals of the Red Army, Gen. A. Yakir and Gen. Jan Gamarnik. http://www.jta.org/1956/03/19/archive/khrushchev-says-stalin-planned-huge-anti-semitic-plot-in-russia#ixzz2bFZ2kjAlurge

    Like the US, the RF is a cesspool of bigotry, racism and misogyny.

  • emjayay

    You have to be careful using the word fundamentalist without the Orthodox, or better yet Russian Orthodox. At least in this country! Two different planets, even if they do have some random things in common.

    The Russians have 70 years of homework to do.

  • emjayay

    I’m sure they teach a lot about their glorious victory over the Nazies.

  • emjayay

    I think Russia became a hotbed of AIDs, but probably as much about sharing needles. And probably because denying gays existed meant not giving out any safe sex information. Kind of like Reagan, but more so.

  • emjayay

    You forgot Rudy. But he left.

  • emjayay

    And the TV is a CRT.

  • http://blogvader.tumblr.com/ Blogvader

    It’s good to know that people in Russia are so conscientious with regards to history.

  • 2patricius2

    Or lack of uniform, as two of the above photos seem to indicate.

  • Fred

    And I thought a gay republican was an oxymoron. Wow!

  • Thom Allen

    I remember back when AIDS was breaking and the few known cases were in the US and Europe. The representatives of over a dozen nations (Japan, China, many in the Middle East and Africa) said that they weren’t concerned about AIDS because there were no gays in their countries. Russia seems to be moving back in time. Maybe next year they’ll start burning heretics, indenturing children into service and selling women as brides. Oh, wait, they’re ALREADY doing the latter. I keep seeing those ads for Russian girls who want to marry.

  • Mary O’Grady

    Bonkers. That is all.

  • txiconoclast

    I can’t help but laugh at this type of stuff (I guess it’s my defense mechanism). As a gay man, am I the only one who thinks they need to brush up on their decorating skills? Seriously…a sombrero on top of the TV? And who hung those flags?

  • http://www.rebeccamorn.com/mind BeccaM

    Nothing homoerotic about that there photo. Nosiree!

  • Indigo

    And that’s its own kind of clumsy.

  • Indigo

    They’re not thinking, like the German boiz of yore, they like the uniforms.

  • Indigo

    Here we have a dysfunctional country ready for boycott. Nut jobs everywhere.

  • jomicur

    Well, hey, we’ve already learned that there are no gay people in Iran. I’m sure it’s only a matter of time before we also learn there are no gays in Russia–and never have been. And Putin will do everything in his power to make sure both statements are true.

  • Thom Allen

    Maybe the young French women are attracted to hunkettes in pastel shorts playing with other hunkettes by climbing up and sliding down poles.

  • Anonymous

    Not to mention portraying slavery as a friendly arrangement.

  • Anonymous

    Rationality is not their strong point.

  • http://www.americablog.com/ Naja pallida

    That’s the problem with the loons these days, here and abroad. They’ve crossed the line into self-satire, and it’s impossible to tell the difference without further investigation.

  • nicho

    This is even more bizarre than the French “Homophobe Hunkettes.”

  • nicho

    People have hated since the beginning of time. It’s always been “Us” against “The Other.” Anytime people forgot that, you could count on religion to step in and stoke the fires — sometimes literally.

  • Thom Allen

    I just picked Tchaikpvsky as one example. I didn’t even include male Russian dancers like Nijinsky, Diaghilev and others. Is the Russian government “rehabilitating” their reputations or will they become unpersons?

  • jomicur

    Not just Tchaikovsky but Rimsky-Korsakov and Mussorgsky as well.

  • HereinDC

    Closted…..all of them!
    Come on……thus does protest.
    Good Grief.

  • FLL

    A smattering of good news from Russia: the “404 Kids” campaign (named after the Internet error message, “404—Page Not Found”). Hope this gets enough traction to become the Russian equivalent of the “It Gets Better” campaign. The translation for the picture below is “404–Kids! We stand with you! Love whomever you love!” Here is the link:

    http://dish.andrewsullivan.com/2013/08/05/the-404-kids/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+andrewsullivan%2FrApM+%28The+Dish%29

  • Burpy

    Well I think they missed a trick. If they had incorporated the lesbian aryans they could have called themselves GLANS.

  • Thom Allen

    Slightly off topic, but as Becca points out (below), the government may say that recorded history is inaccurate or just plain wrong. What are the Russians saying about Tchaikovsky. He was gay. Is his music banned because it might influence children? Have they removed him from Russian history because he’s an evil influence? Or have they “straightened” him out historically speaking?

  • cole3244

    all bigots have one thing in common, lack of intelligence, intellect, or just plain stupidity, regardless of IQ.

  • FLL

    Yeah, with everything happening in Russia, I’ve started wondering whether their elementary and high school textbooks whitewash the era of European fascism in the 1930s. After all, our textbooks here in the Bible Belt often disrespect science in favor of creationism, which is pretty crazy. Russia might also be in need of textbook reform.

  • AndyinChicago

    If you’re a despised minority and you don’t learn a little empathy, you’re a broken individual. I don’t care if you’re a gay, Russian neo-Nazi or just a GOProud member.

  • http://www.rebeccamorn.com/mind BeccaM

    I’d say “access to an accurate history book.” Let’s not forget that one of the favored strategies of demagogues and fringe extremists is to claim that recorded history was biased and inaccurate.

    Which, to some extent, isn’t wrong. But they’ll go so far as to claim things never happened, such as the holocaust.

  • FLL

    Exactly. I’ve always thought that people like the Koch brothers lure working-class teabaggers into voting against their own economic interests in the hope of getting a government that will pander to their sexual insecurities and harass gay people. Now that LGBT equal rights is attaining one victory after another, these working-class teabaggers are left with nothing. No theocracy. No paycheck. Nothing. The working-class teabaggers are almost tragic figures.

  • nicho

    Yes, just like the teabaggers never seem to realize that when the corporatocracy no longer needs them, they’ll be loaded into the trucks.

  • FLL

    Yes, I can understand these misguided fringe people (of whatever sexuality) trying to cook up some nationalist Russian version of fascism. Fascism is always a lazy non-answer to the real problems confronting a society. But honoring Hitler’s birthday? Any of their fellow Russians with access to a history book would laugh at them. And the present alliance between the fundamentalist Orthodox Xtians and the neo-fascists seems like a pretty tough nut to crack for these misguided gay neo-fascists. It all sounds like assorted varieties of s-t-u-p-i-d.

  • http://www.rebeccamorn.com/mind BeccaM

    The advocates of fascist authoritarianism always assume they’ll be among the select few and never among those shipped off to the concentration camps.

  • FLL

    If these were American websites, then I would agree with you and AnitaMann that this is satire. However, these websites and groups are spread widely across Russia and Russian-language websites, and in far-flung places in the Russian Federation that are just not sophisticated enough for satire by sophisticated straight frat boys. I have to come to a different conclusion than you or AnitaMann. I’m afraid this is the real McCoy.

  • AnitaMann

    Ya, my guess is this is a joke. At least I hope so.

  • FLL

    The first notion that does not compute, at least for me, is when Russian neo-fascists (straight, gay or in between) admire Hitler. Apparently they never learned enough in history class to understand that Hitler despised Slavic people and wanted to kill off a large part of the Russian population and turn the remainder into slaves of the Nazi state. Don’t they teach Russian children the truth about Hitler in history class?

    My second observation is a question specifically for gay Russian neo-fascists. How do they propose for the neo-fascist movement to divest itself of fundamentalist Orthodox Christians, who will always be homophobic? Have any of the geniuses quoted in your article addressed that challenge? Actually, this is a pressing issue for all Russians, whether democratically minded or more in favor of authoritarian government. How do you rid Russia of the oozing, medieval slime that is fundamentalist Christianity? This question is especially urgent for gay Russians, of whatever political allegiance. It looks like the Russian population has enough homework to keep themselves busy.

  • http://www.rebeccamorn.com/mind BeccaM

    The self-hating gay French homophobes are much hotter and better ripped.

    In any case, i think the Russian state-sponsored anti-gay pogrom is a far greater threat than this fringe loony group which doesn’t seem to comprehend who the true anti-gay enemies are. Then again, hate and tree stump stupid seem to go hand-in-hand.

  • Skeptical Cicada

    I don’t know. This seems like bad satire by straights to me. The crossed hard-ons in the logo. Seriously? It’s like a bad SNL skit. And why is it in English?

  • Ninong

    Cute name: Eros, the Greek god of love. That last name is a reference to a Russian poem about a white paradise.

  • Larry

    I must learn never to assume we have reached our freak limit. The two-penis crest is comic relief to this otherwise sad commentary. The only thing that doesn’t surprise me is that Russia is involved.

  • StraightGrandmother

    This is sicking, it really is.
    Why do people Hate?
    because it makes them feel better, that they are better than somebody else?

  • Tom in Lazybrook

    John, please see what you can do to help publicize this. http://www.gaystarnews.com/article/gay-teen-dies-after-being-kidnapped-tortured-russia060813 I don’t know see any proof of the allegations, but could you at least help us ask “Where is the child” and what happened to him? There may be a Russian Emmitt Till story. Currently, we do know that the there is a crime that was videotaped, involving a minor and issues of sexuality. I’m wondering if the VK owner, who lives in the US, could be guilty of breaking child pornography laws unless he cooperates to identify those who posted this (and who are filmed in it). In addition, we should certainly publicize any links between this group and Putin. Finally, as it relates to the Olympics, I find it very difficult to see how Russia can safely hold the games if they can’t even identify or wont punish those filmed in this act. I suggest, that if you don’t feel comfortable with the allegations in Gay Star Article, that you could perhaps assign a name to the child (such as Pavel) and simply demand an answer to the question “Where’s Pavel” And ask the media and the IOC to demand answers as well.

  • voltronforce

    Those guys look like some I have seen in Russian gay porn lol.

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