Catholic Cardinal calls gay US ambassador nominee a “faggot”

A Cardinal of the Catholic Church called President Obama’s nominee to be ambassador to the Dominican Republican a “faggot” this past weekend.

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The President’s nominee, James “Wally” Brewster, is openly gay.  The Cardinal, who is also the Catholic Church’s Archbishop of Santo Domingo, Nicolas de Jesus Lopez Rodriguez, reportedly has a stranglehold on Dominican politics, and like most Catholic leaders is notoriously anti-gay.

The Cardinal’s bigoted comments were first reported by J. Lester Feder of Buzzfeed.

The blog Blabbeando took the original video of López Rodríguez calling ambassador-nominee Brewster a “faggot” and posted English subtitles. López Rodríguez was being interviewed in Spanish, and uses the Spanish slur “maricones,” which means “faggots.”

López Rodríguez’ comments occur around 49 seconds into the video:

This is pretty egregious, even by Catholic standards.  Using the word “faggot” for anyone, let alone the nominee to be the next US ambassador to a country, is bad enough.  But for a Catholic Cardinal – one of the leaders of the Catholic Church – to use words like “faggot” is really beyond the pale.

What’s next?  Does Pope Francis’s Vatican embrace the n-word for blacks, and the c-word for women now too?

What kind of organization tolerates these kind of slurs, let alone the rape of children?  Paula Deen, a TV chef, lost her entire career for admitting insensitivity to minorities.  But a Catholic Cardinal does the same, and it’s no big deal – just another day at the altar.  After all, when you aid and abet pedophilia, and the literal enslavement of women, what’s a bigoted slur against hundreds of millions of citizens of the world?

I grew up Christian, but not Catholic.  And even after coming to terms with being gay, I never fully understand why so many of my gay friends who grew up Catholic had such a visceral hatred for the Catholic Church.  Now I do.


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  • dave3137

    Thanks, UncleBucky. I’ll be listening to those!!

  • UncleBucky

    Hey, Dave, me, too. I still love the Gregorian Chant and the sung masses.

    Here is some stuff I found just recently that puts chills up my spine (in a positive way!)

    Sanctus of Missa Orbis Factor (with bells):
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGpz4KPNoxQ

    And the whole Mass:
    Kyrie: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyxVvGCeCJc
    Gloria: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZPCGV-bhYM
    Sanctus: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGpz4KPNoxQ
    Agnus Dei: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gg2eyBaR0Vo

    Next to Jan Vermulst “Mass for Christian Unity”, it’s my fave.
    kyrie: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJo2Pr-axt4
    Gloria, etc. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5XJ86EB2rA (best)

    Publisher: http://www.wlp.jspaluch.com/11548.htm

    Regarding the other stuff, you’re very right. I could not resist the chance to pass this music to you. Hope you like it.

    Cheers.

  • Ninong

    Somebody should ask Cardinal Nicky why he let Fr. “Alberto” Gil leave his archdiocese, possibly using a false identity, and escape to probably Poland after he had been accused of raping 12 girls, all minors! On July 3, 2013, Cardinal Nicky announced that Fr. Gil had been suspended effective May 30, 2013. What? Why the delay?

    Oh, I see, that’s different because all of the minors were girls, right Cardinal Nicky? The Vatican needs to inform the Polish bishop in whose diocese Fr. Gil is hiding out to pick up his ass and send him back to the Dominican Republic to face justice!

    In the meantime, what about Fr. Uriel Ojeda?

    Just this past Friday, July 5, 2013, Fr. Uriel Ojeda of the Sacramento Diocese pleaded guilty to a single count of “substantial sexual conduct” with a 13-year-old girl in a plea dead with the prosecutor. He did that ONLY after the judge ruled in pretrial that Fr. Ojeda’s admission of guilt to church authorities and a private investigator were not covered by ministerial privilege and would be admissable in court.

    Prior to that ruling, the Sacramento Diocese and Fr. Ojeda were prepared to lie and claim that the child’s accusations were false! So Fr. Ojeda accepted this plea deal, which could bring him 8 years in prison, and in exchange the DA’s office agreed to drop six other felony charges involving sexual molestation of the same 13-year-old victim that could have resulted in a 20-year sentence.

    Yes, the Catholic Diocese of Sacramento and Father Uriel Ojeda were prepared to lie under oath and deny the accusations of the 13-year-old victim of clerical sexual abuse because that’s what they have always done.

    The reputation of the Church is more important than the children of the Church. Nothing has changed!

  • UncleBucky

    Whooosh! You’re as mad on the keyboard as I am inside. I gotta respect you, what you say seems authentic.

    I feel betrayed. I feel like this Cardinal and the rest of them have left us behind and are protecting their behinds. Maybe, like you, if I got really angry (I’m just tired anymore), I would type exactly what you did.

    You’re right. The RCC is wrong. But lemme tell you, Jesus IS right, but the RCC don’t know him anymore.

  • UncleBucky

    John, it’s not just for this kinda stuff that I have come to have a visceral negative reaction to the RCC, but over the years many things that continued to show me that the RCC and many of its minions are not at all concerned about the People in general, or about the “little children” that Jesus was talking about (the poor, the abused, the sick, the isolated, etc — not JUST underaged people, eh?).

    The nun who emptied my desk on the floor because it was untidy (it was untidy because my sister was dying at the time and I was a wreck at 8 years old), the nun who pulled the hair of my other sister when she wasn’t fast enough to do homework, classwork and class participation, the nun who washed the “ratting” out of the hair of a girl in my 7th grade class — she took the girl into the janitor’s closet and washed out hair spray, washed off makeup and eye liner and lipstick — the girl came back crying and abused and looking like a drowned rat, the parish priest who yelled for 5 minutes during Confirmation practice, when I got a bit tired, and let out a sigh when we were genuflecting, moving forward and kneeling for the umpteenth time, the constant scolding at boys and girls in catholic high school when their hormones were doing what they ought to do, the mass rallies in the gym with Mass and no one feeling like he wanted to be there or could choose to be there or not. And of course, after 1968, the aftermath of the 60s (Vatican II being slowly reversed, no change in the clergy being our friends, no they were our torturers and disciplinarians. And all the way past John Paul I being “murdered” (?) and a super catholic being pope. Then a guy from the Holy Inquisition (or what it used to be called as late as 1868). And all this stuff about Opus Dei, Tridentine Mass people, empty churches (for the most part) and the rest.

    That’s why we are mad as spit at the RCC.

  • Greg B.

    Fucking Spic.

  • woodroad34

    Hah! I’m proud of you for making me proud of myself.

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    vox satana—what a fabulous drag name!

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    Well done!

  • Moderator3

    It is a long standing element of online etiquette. Using all capital letters is considered shouting. It would be considered shouting on a blog that had zero gay commenters.

  • SOMERSETBIG MIKE

    and the discourse should be as offensive as possible and only as long as it is written in proper case usage so as to satisfy the blog captain and his watchful eyes, you got some splanen’ to do ! no and i won’t by the double standard, you captain are above that charge.

  • SOMERSETBIG MIKE

    is the use of all caps in some ways anti-gay, or is it just electronic shouting, comment please. slight confusion !

  • SOMERSETBIG MIKE

    my my, and i was warned by the blog cop that all cap letters was reason to be banned, douchebag, mom bag, fluid amounts and can be shoved in many ports. . . .i almost feel vindicated but i will comply and stay off the all caps even though the blog is selective watched and kept proper for our common comfort by glasses on glasses off. . . .one must not shout ! LMAO !

  • SOMERSETBIG MIKE

    still waiting for your answer, second request, dude karmanot seems to be filled with drama and ears ringing, make a choice, Putin or the priest, benny and the jets ?

  • SOMERSETBIG MIKE

    dude karmanot, you have more to think about than what ever is making your ears ring. . . putin has made and signed sweeping laws against the movement, i personally don’t believe the russian leader is at all kind, but in the face of what the priest has said, name calling and direct political action against the peeps, far more destructive, agreed ?

  • Blabbeando

    As the person who added the English subtitles to the video: I was born in Latin America and speak fluent English and Spanish. I have also been a long-time advocate for LGBT rights in the Latino community in the United States and throughout Latin America.

    As you say, context is key. “Maricón” can mean a number of things depending the region and the intent. It can be used to call someone a weakling, a wuss or a coward – indicating someone is less than a man if not quite meaning “fag” —- or it can actually mean “fag” or “faggot” (some men also use it in friendly banter much like some in the U.S. call each other “nigg**”.

    But in this one instance, the good cardinal was specifically addressing questions about the U.S. ambassador nominee’s sexual identity and his opposition to the nomination and brought up the word “maricones” in that context. How anyone can argue that the cardinal did not mean to say “maricones” as in “faggots” considering the context boggles my mind.

    It’s not the first time the cardinal has called gays “maricones”. The reason he uses it with such ease is that he has done it before and gotten away with it. He has also blamed “effeminate” men for the U.S. church child sex abuse scandals and used “degenerate” and “social trash” to describe the LGBT community in the Dominican Republic. He was the prime mover behind a constitutional ban on same-sex marriage and opposed any recognition of LGBT rights in the island.

    If anything, what has been different this time around is the general outrage these most recent comments have elicited not only from around the world but also from the general population of the Dominican Republic. Other religious leaders have called on him to treat Brewster with more respect, members of the government have said that the ambassador nominee has the full support of the Dominican government and political leaders such as NYS Senator Adriano Espaillat (born in the Dominican Republic) have strongly condemned his words.

    The Dominican LGBT community, which celebrated its first public pride event just seven years ago have also found visibility and a voice. In some ways, there are very positive outcomes of this.

    And while you are correct that the word “maricón” is more widely used in Latin America than “faggot” in the United States, that does not mean it can be less derogatory. If anything, perhaps it’s used more because people are more willing to give rank homophobic sentiment a pass.

    I am glad the cardinal got caught saying “faggots” on camera and that he is exposed internationally for the awful man he is.

    I have additional information over on my blog: http://blabbeando.blogspot.com/2013/07/dominican-cardinal-has-no-problem-using.html

  • JHK1776

    Go to this mutts Facebook page and light it up —
    Cardenal Nicolas de Jesus Lopez Rodriguez

    another waste of air

  • JHK1776

    Fck this animal and that criminal organization known as the Catholic Church — I hope they all die in a fiery plane crash — Church is fake — Organized religion is FAKE — this guy is a big homo — he’s never been with a woman either — is he a faggot too?

  • Sweetie

    I think that in order to down-rate people should be required to post a rebuttal. I am quite interested in seeing where my logic apparently isn’t working.

    Americans generally don’t understand the concept of pedophilia. Pedophilia is sexual attraction to PREPUBESCENT bodies. That it’s illegal or undesirable for old guys to have sex with teenagers is beside the point. It’s another issue entirely. Pedophilia is a mental illness that is precisely characterized by the attraction, not to sexually functional/mature bodies, but immature bodies.

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    Sounds like a match maker!

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    Yep

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    Wash, Rinse, Repeat: BS

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    See above: I’m reading you quite accurately and that includes a diva snap AND a bobble head.

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    Quote: “It is BAD to use that word and it should NOT be used” and then “they really don’t find it a big deal.” So, by your logic it’s bad and no big deal. Well, Mr. troll it is a big deal and you are an asshole which just shows how much of a hive-minded bigot are you.

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    Oh we get you alright.

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    I’d think about it dude except my ears are ringing.

  • Anthony_McCarthy

    American Catholics poll as more favorable of gay marriage than the general population.

    The Quinnipiac University poll found 54 percent of Catholics support same-sex marriage while just 38 percent are opposed, compared to a 47-43 percent margin among all American voters.

    Both margins represent a reversal from the 36-55 percent opposition among all voters the group found as recently as July 2008.

    “Catholic voters are leading American voters toward support for same-sex marriage,” said Peter Brown, assistant director of the polling institute.

  • pappyvet

    Uh Huh. The church of Rome and it’s members who according to rumor,eat,breath and live their mythology from the time they wake up till they go to bed at night has such a good and godly record on these matters. right

  • Ninong

    There’s a very good investigative article that appeared in the British press a few years ago that details the complicated and widespread real estate holdings of the Vatican. Virtually all of their holdings that are not actual churches and similar religious structures, are held under a layer of hidden trusts — one hidden trust listed as the owner but with that trust owned by one or two other hidden trusts. The estimated value of their holdings exceeds $1 billion (I forgot if that excluded actual church buildings). I think it was just office buildings, apartment buildings, etc., that added up to the $1 billion.

  • Ninong

    The Holy See is the “sovereign entity” recognized in international law. Vatican City State was created by the Lateran Treaty in 1929. The Holy See is sovereign over the independent territory of Vatican City State. The pope is the head of the Holy See. It’s the Holy See that signs treaties and sends apostolic nuncios and apostolic delegates to other states.

    Each cardinal may be considered a “de facto diplomat,” as you say, but he’s not an actual diplomat and doesn’t have a Holy See passport or a Vatican City State passport unless he resides in Vatican City State or is an actual diplomat of the Holy See (e.g., apostolic nuncio). Obviously a cardinal who is employed by the Holy See and resides in Vatican City State, or one who is assigned to an apoltolic nunciature, would have a Holy See passport. Citizens of Vatican City State, such as the Swiss guards and others working there, would have Vatican City State passports.

    It’s a complicated situation under international law because in spite of the fact that the Holy See doesn’t meet the usual requirements to be considered a “state,” it’s the entity that has international recognition. Vatican City State is simply the location of the Holy See. They’re considered separate entities but the Holy See is sovereign over Vatican City State.

  • lynchie

    You saying he used the old “he didn’t mean it” defense.

  • SOMERSETBIG MIKE

    wrong window chosen, my error !

  • SOMERSETBIG MIKE

    10-4 good buddy !

  • Moderator3

    Using all capital letters is consider online shouting. I looked at your posts on other sites, and I can see you are used to doing that. Please do not do that on this blog or your post will be deleted.

  • nevilleross

    The PRC is just as worse, but I don’t see you going after them like you should, I see. Playing the ‘moral equivalence’ game will get you nowhere.

  • SOMERSETBIG MIKE

    NAME CALLING IS MILD, THE QUR`AN, AND SHARIA LAW (THE PEACEFUL RELIGION) CALL FOR DEATH AND DISMEMBERMENT, AT THE LEAST BANISHMENT AFTER PUBLIC PHYSICAL ABUSE. NOW COUNTING OUR BLESSINGS. . . .HATE THE SIN, LOVE THE SINNER, THE CHRISTIAN RELIGION. SO MUCH BETTER. . . .THINK ABOUT IT !

  • Cratus Galileo

    Resorting to making fun of spelling because you can’t come up with logical arguments. Very mature. Very intelligent.

    So ok, maybe these people do know that there’s the word ‘gay’ and there’s the word ‘maricon’. However, that doesn’t mean that they know how much more heavily one weighs than the other. Maricon is used so commonly in Latin America that I swear I’ve heard it more than the word gay. It’s BAD that they do it. It SHOULD NOT be used (as John said, but I’m sure you ignored because you fail hard at reading comprehension). However, distinction between that is not really made as much, so he probably casually said ‘maricon’ probably not with the best of intentions but he wasn’t saying it like “HE’S A FUCKING FAGGOT”. You get me?

  • Cratus Galileo

    He’s not fucking arguing that using the word maricon is correct. He’s arguing that the fact that he used the word was because of cultural reasons rather than religious reasons.

    Funny how you make fun of his spelling, yet you completely fail at reading comprehension.

  • Cratus Galileo

    Logical responses for the win!

  • Dakotahgeo

    Chalk up another loss for the Roamin’ Catholic Cult, which only adds to the strengthening of the Christian GLBT Community. (They will just never learn to not be stupid in public!).

  • Cratus Galileo

    I have lived in both a Latin American country (basically first 18 years of my life) and in the United States, and I can tell you that people use maricon a lot more freely in Latin America than they do in the United States. It is BAD to use that word and it should NOT be used (as John said), but in Latin America for the most part they really don’t find it a big deal. He’s trying to argue that it is probably a cultural thing and not a religious thing. The very fact that you so readily accuse him of defending religion just shows how much of a hive minded person you are.

  • John

    I agree with you, it was wrong. I thought I was clear when I said “It IS derogative and he SHOULD NOT have said that”, sorry if wasn’t.
    One of the links in this same article leads to another article which says that 60% of DR disagrees with the church’s position. So I’m not sure why you say that we have a “third world country” ridiculing a man. In that same article, it says the monsignor said he would suffer due to the significant cultural difference, not that he was going to beat him up…(maybe there is another article I haven’t read?) I really have no idea what your last paragraph has to do with what I said but ok. :)

  • Sweetie

    Actually, as far as I know, pedophilia is a mental illness, so I think we’re talking about guys who are a step worse. People who molest and rape children merely due to opportunity may not be actual pedophiles. Such people have less of an excuse, because they don’t have the illness to compel them.

    My characterization also fits because many of these cases involve the molestation/coercion of adolescents. Adolescents and teens, attraction to them, does not fall under the umbrella of pedophilia.

  • http://www.rebeccamorn.com/mind BeccaM

    My pleasure, dear.

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    They do, but eyes can kill.

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    THANK YOU!

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    High five Dave!

  • Thom Allen

    Let’s just refer to him as a used enema bag. That can be used by any sex, holds a larger volume of fluid and he can just shove it up his *ss

  • Thom Allen

    Regardless if he said maricon, faggot, gay, homo, mariposa, fairy it was wrong for a few reasons. It was derogatory. The new ambassador’s sexuality should have not even be mentioned. If the President had appointed a Jew to the post, would it be OK for the Cardinal to laughingly call him a “kike”? The cardinal is not showing what catholicism is supposed to be about: love, being non-judgmental, forgiving, treating others as he would want to be treated, forgiving, etc. Typical of what the church has decayed into in today’s world: pederasty, lies, cover ups, theft, lawbreaking, pandering and pimping.

    The cardinal is deliberately meddling in politics just as the catholics in the US do. So the cardinal disrespected the US and its appointee. His asshat buddy, the monsignor, threatened the ambassador saying that he would be made to “suffer” if he came to the DR. This is a threat against a diplomatic representative of a foreign power. Then he offers a classic Republicanology, by saying, “We don’t despise this person.” No, you just insulted him, his President, laughed about it and then threatened him. But you love him like a brother, don’t you? Of course, the government of the DR had nothing to say, since the church runs the island.

    So we have a third-world country, run by a second-rate religion, ridiculing a man that they’ve never met based on his sexuality and insulting him and the US. Of course, you realize that should a hurricane or other natural disaster befall the Dominican Republic, these two would drop to their knees so fast their cassocks would shred to suck and swallow thus making sure that they got aid from the US. The cardinal and his staff should get the Rush Limbaugh award for obnoxious stupidity, shallowness and bigotry.

    I understand that we may not be hearing much from the cardinal for the next few weeks. He will be training his DR choirboys in their oral skills as their choirmaster. I’ve heard that he’s quite good with his baton.

  • John

    You’re absolutely right. Gay IS the socially accepted word. That’s why i said ‘maricon’ IS derogative.

  • sJames6621

    This is standard fare for the chuch that claimes to respect the dignity and worth of every “human” person. (note the ” )

    The catholic bishop of Peru dd the same thing last year re gays

    Too bad t snot prctical now to get a whole bunch of countries to end relations with the vatican, refuse to accept their visas or passports etc

  • dave3137

    I grew up Catholic. I was 14 when I was confirmed, and chose the confirmation name of “Jude” after St. Jude, the patron saint of impossible causes. I aspired to become a priest, because in my naivete, I kind of assumed that a vow of chastity meant that God would somehow shield me from my zillions of sinful thoughts, desires, behaviors. Meanwhile, I was (honestly) enjoying sex in the church itself, in the church basement, etc., with the esteemed choir director. By age 19, I’d given up on the Church and most things connected with it — though I do confess that Gregorian Chant still sends wonderful chills up and down my spine. It wasn’t too many years later, that I realized that all they REALLY cared about was the image. Screw the kids, literally or figuratively. It’s like Lily Tomlin’s “telephone operator” sketches except not at all funny. WE are the CHURCH. WE are “God on Earth.” WE don’t HAVE to practice what we preach. YOU are the problem, not the priest who raped you or the bishop who knew and moved him around enough so he’d always have fresh meat. So I walked away and never looked back. The arrogance expressed by this so-called “Prince of the Church” is a perfect example of how the lessons of the past decade have NOT been learned. I suspect Francis is working on things — he’s cleaning house at the Vatican bank, has shaken up the Curia, etc. And in a huge, glacial, organization like the Church, that stuff takes time. But it’s not an excuse for decades, if not centuries of promotion of intolerance, degradation of the faithful, and absolute hypocrisy and faithlessness to the message preached in pulpits worldwide.

  • Butch1

    Too bad they don’t take a vow of silence. ;-)

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    Very like leota!

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    Waaaaa and BTW cultural differences are not objective.

  • http://www.rebeccamorn.com/mind BeccaM

    A casual Google search shows that the socially-accepted polite word in Spanish to refer to a gay person is… “gay.”

  • Stev84

    You can blame Mussolini for that

  • Stev84

    The word “cult” is often thrown around too easily, but there is a more specific definition that comes with some clear criteria. It has to do with the amount of direct control they exercise over followers and the techniques they use to do. Or in other words: mind control. All religions have a code of behavior that is enforced to some degree. But true cults in that sense take it an extreme and control every part of people’s lives. They try to isolate them from their social circles and make them dependent on the cult for everything. They control what information they receive. They control their relationships with everyone. They try to make any behavior fully accountable to the cult leader. They monopolize their followers’s time.

    Some of that may be a matter of degrees, but the Catholic Church having confessions for example is nowhere near the same level as “church discipline” as practiced by Protestant fundamentalists for example. Take a look at churches like Mars Hill. That one is truly cult-like by any definition. So are many, many other neo-Calvinist churches.

  • Ninong

    Supporters of Generalisimo Francisco Franco, enablers of Marcial Maciel, etc., etc.

  • Ninong

    We have a winner!

  • angryspittle

    Well I guess that is better than pedophile.

  • John

    You completely disregarded my argument and tried to discredit me by saying that I defend pedophiles. Almost by definition, that is what a personal attack fallacy is. My initial message agrees with practically everything you said now after your first sentence. We have to be objective and take into consideration cultural differences though.

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    Do’un the time warp again! I just knew you were also a Rocky fan!

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    Wrong, the first paragraph is wrong. “A douchebag, therefore, is someone effeminate.” Wrong

  • Labradrooler

    me thinks that the Cardinal and Msgr. Pablo Cendano (his sidekick) are pedophiles and are lovers. The ones that protest too much. Hello.

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    That works! But you realize, douchebag is also a tool for man on man sex and does not imply femininity at all. What you never heard the term Mom Bag?

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    “gay practicing Catholics” i first read that as prancing Catholics.

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    Those in quilt usually considering exposing them to the truth an attack.

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    Your objective ‘weather’ is a foul wind off the dumps. The idea that folks in South America don’t even know what to call homosexuals is beyond hilarious.

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    They call it mentoring in Catholic circles.

  • nicho

    I agree

  • FLL

    Rocky Horror Picture Show trivia: I always liked the Shakespeare quotation on the sign of the Denton Episcopal Church:

    “Be just and fear not.”

  • nicho

    I made no attack against you — only your defense of pedophiles.

  • woodroad34

    Sounds Satanish, actually. No wonder the “Church” doesn’t like Satanists–they’re two sides of the same coin.

  • woodroad34

    All cults do. Doesn’t mean they’re not. Just like the Family Research Council doesn’t like being called a “hate group”…doesn’t change the fact. As the saying goes: “Butcha are, Blanche; ya are!”

  • woodroad34

    As Nancy Pelosi said to Mz Bachman.

  • woodroad34

    No argument from me. As I mentioned above–with their involvement in our politics and endgendering the democratic government to be overturned in favor of a more theocratic one, they should all be sent to an island somewhere and really communicate with God way far away from the hurly burly. They should be seen and not heard–better yet, not seen and not heard.

  • woodroad34

    The church can consider them however they want (i think they’re more “princesses”, actually–Disney should come up with a new movie for that one)….we, on the other hand, don’t have to recognize their “statehood”. Their involvement in our politics and their debasement of our 1st Amdenment should be reason enough to send ‘em all packing as spies and terrorists. Again this is a political organization posing as religion. What other religious organization does that? Can you imagine the Southern Baptists calling something in Texas their own country? I’d say something about Islam, but they have several countries under theocratic rule or Judaism which has Israel (although, I’m not sure if it’s actually the state religion–but in practice). There was a woman in Beverly Hills who thought that all programs of the City and any event the City puts on should follow Judaic law, because the predominate citizenry are jewish…according to her, that is.
    And to those “revrhunds” that constantly and loudly proclaim that the US was formed on Christianity, they need to chew on this little tidbit with their mealy mouths:

    “In 1797, the United States Senate ratified a treaty with Tripoli that stated in Article 11:
    As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquility, of Mussulmen; and, as the said States never entered into any war, or act of hostility against any Mahometan nation, it is declared by the parties, that no pretext arising from religious opinions, shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.[25]” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separation_of_church_and_state#United_States

  • woodroad34

    Yeah, it starts with Hallow and ends with weenie.

  • John

    That’s a personal attack that has nothing to do with this story being exaggerated or my argument. We have to be objective is all, weather we like it or not.

  • arcadesproject

    Jeez. I wonder if Nickolas Cardinal Lopez Rodriguez is a child molester?

  • Sweetie

    Douchebag refers to the douche, a feminine hygiene product. A douchebag,
    therefore, is someone effeminate. Attacks on effeminacy, especially
    when shown by men, are hardly rare but certainly fall under both sexism
    and heterosexism.

  • Sweetie

    Douchebag refers to the douche, a feminine hygiene product. A douchebag, therefore, is someone effeminate. Attacks on effeminacy, especially when shown by men, are hardly rare but certainly fall under both sexism and heterosexism.

    Dunning’s point was mainly about the number of slurs/expressions of disgust that exist in a language in terms of who they are directed at. There are a great many, for instance, directed at women. There are few for WASP males. Dunning’s point also applies to the level of concern (consequences) that attends the use of slurs/expressions of outrage.

  • nicho

    Each cardinal may be a “diplomat,” but the Vatican considers each cardinal a “prince” of Vatican State. That’s not just hyperbole. They actually consider them princes, which is why I’m amazed that they are allowed to keep their US citizenship.

  • nicho

    Wow, you’ve sunk pretty low when you’re left with defending people involved in systematic child rape.

  • Sweetie

    Not just her. Society. It’s a simple fact that, just as Disqus blocks posts with the n word but not with the f word, anti-gay behavior is much more condoned.

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    Nothing more embarrassing than a drooping end.

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    And all this time I thought maricon was macaroon, so delicious at tea time.

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    BS

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    You are amazing at times FLL—positively Rocky Horror Picture Show and that is a good thing.

  • John

    This story is really exaggerated! There was a drastic change of topic in the discussion and he said laughing “wow, we jumped from “faggots” and lesbians to (he said something here I couldn’t catch) chickens” . “Maricon” is used much more liberally in Latin American countries (especially in less educated region) , sometimes people don’t even know another word to call a homosexual . His expressions was probably due more to his DR culture than his religious background. It IS derogative and he SHOULD NOT have said that. BUT he didn’t say: ‘James Brewster is a FAGGOT!!!’ (this message in no way supposed that latin american countries are bigoted, it is simply the way some talk in them)

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    ‘Douchbag’ is an ambidextrous polymorphous nomenclature that applies to either a list of names or terms, or to refer to someone that is a term or to the system of principles,
    procedures that is douche.

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    When I showed Bill, the latest apparition of Christ he nearly had a coronary

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    Let’s start with: virgin birth, eating bodies, drinking blood, torture and suffering fetish, Priests wearing dresses and raping children, bodies rising from the dead. OMG! a zombie cult—it’s worse than I thought!

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    If it were up to me Tracey Morgan would not have a career. We can thank Tina Fey, for molly coddling that bigot.

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    Or: “Nice drag your eminence honey, have I got a parade for you.”

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    We could add ‘fairy’ and ‘fruit’ as well.

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    The Vatican should lose its nation status, be turned into a suburb of Rome and taxed to the hilt.

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    One of the advantages of a first rate Catholic education is turning one’s back on the institution itself. There is nothing like critical thinking to put Mr. god, his priestly eunuchs and child rapists far in the mirror of one’s past.

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    Some monasteries are full of poisonous trolls like López Rodríguez. The Trappist Monastery of Abbique in New Mexico is run by a virulant gay hater.

  • http://fighttherightwingnuts.blogspot.com/ mike31c

    Headline: Random Internet citizen calls Catholic Cardinal an A$$hole!

    Yeah. bigot, not very “christian” of you.

  • Blazn13ri

    I bet he wouldn’t disrespect gay people anymore if one day a gay person hit him in the face about it

  • http://www.meetmarcadams.com MarcAdams

    time for the xians to reel another one in.

  • woodroad34

    ‘fag’ as in homosexual is a derivative of “faggot/fagot”; however, ‘fag’ (a word in its entirety and not a derivation of anything else) comes from Middle English ‘fagge':
    [1425–75; late Middle English fagge broken thread in cloth, loose end, drooping end > to droop, tire > to make weary > drudgery, drudge; (definition 6) a shortening of fag end]
    Hence a younger public school student would do all the drudge work. Hah! I wonder if that makes Matt Drudge = Matt Fag?

  • woodroad34

    “Fagot” is just a variant spelling of “faggot” meaning a bundle of sticks usually meant to be piled together so that a sinner, witch, heathen, blasphemer could be burnt at the stake. Another connotation that I remember reading about was that it was a Middle Ages slang for a ‘fish wife’.

  • woodroad34

    More commonly, maybe — but there was also the Avignon Papacy and the Eastern Church. ‘Roman’ just distinguished which sect it is/was.

  • jixter

    And don’t forget that just about everybody uses the word ‘dick’, and its variants, as a casual pejorative because … why? Penises are bad things? When females achieve the illusion of power that males now enjoy will the ‘c’-word be released from verboten-word-prison or will both of them be sent up the river?

  • FLL

    kbhmsw complains to John, in his comment above, that all slurs should be blocked. Your reply is a rebuttal to kbhmsw’s complaint because you point out to kbhmsw that Disqus blocks the n-word but doesn’t block the f-word.

    From your comment above: “You can tell who has the power in a society by how easy it is to insult them.” — Dr. Stephanie Dunning

    If kbhmsw were including this quote in a comment, I would certainly conclude that he meant it as a complaint. However, when you include this quote in a comment, your intention is unclear. Is it a complaint? Is it a statement of satisfaction?

    Let’s use the logic from your Dunning quote elsewhere. On YouTube, the n-word, c-word and n-word are all permitted, which means that YouTube’s guideline is that courtesy is a two-way street. As far as cultural clout, I think YouTube outranks Disqus.

  • Butch1

    We are just going to need to make the “f” word as negative to use and see in print as the “n” word.

  • Butch1

    How “christian” or should I say “christ-like” of him. This is typical of he hierarchy of the Roman Catholic Church; it is full of diseased rot like this fellow and if this church is ever going to free itself of this disease it needs to have this type of cancer removed from it. He is a hateful bigot who needs to go to confession himself or perhaps, a monastery where silence is maintained and one has to remain on his knees for hours praying for forgiveness for ones sins one has committed throughout ones life. This man could spend the remainder of his life there and not cover all of them.

  • woodroad34

    I was just reading an article the other day on this subject. The thought was that “the N-word” is viewed infinitely worse than any gay perjorative; perhaps because of the collective noise from the black community–whereas the gay community has adopted an opposite approach of owning “the f-word” so that it has no power to whichever outside force uses it.
    Actually, after saying that and my initial anger over this pompous sociopath, maybe that’s the best approach. Like the character of the gay Saudi diplomat from “Homeland”, the new US Ambassador should just go up to the prissy little cross-dressing Temple Priest and say: “So I like cock–yum, yum!”

  • FLL

    Even among straight Americans, I think lapsed Catholics outnumber practicing Catholics, probably by a lot.

  • clarknt67

    I can never decide which is more pathetic, gay Republicans or gay practicing Catholics? Can you imagine how tortured the soul is that’s BOTH?

  • jomicur

    So? Catholics, as exemplified by Bill Donohue, seem to get furious about virtually everything on the planet. Everything–EVERYTHING–seems to get them crying “persecution!” Their preposterous belief system is vanishing up its own ciborium. Ain’t that just too bad?

  • Indigo

    Egregious? Definitely. But by the standards of my generation of Catholics, typical. That’s Catholic Action in action and I’ll bet our Supreme Court Chief Justice talks like that in private. We can be very certain that Scalia does. I welcome the cardinal’s remarks because that’s what it takes to expose what they’re really thinking.

  • woodroad34

    Given that Vatican City is it’s own country, each Cardinal is a de facto diplomat. I think more praying is in order for this poor excuse for a diplomat. He needs more guidance than he can mentally or emotionally handle. Not a good frontman for “da church”.

  • caphillprof

    But in the United States, the use of the word “cult” is a disparagement.

    If I told Roman Catholics that they belonged to a cult, they would be furious.

  • jomicur

    His stated attitude is perfectly consistent with the way the Christian churches have treated gay people for most of the last 2,000 years. Anything even mildly pro-gay in Christianity is quite recent.

  • kbhmsw

    That’s bullshit. One slur is just as bad as the other. And if it’s not, then it should be! Such journalist cowardice to say that one slur word is “better” to use full out than another. They all denigrate entire groups of human beings, and are language much more foul than FUCK SHIT or any of the others. Grow up. The f-word is written out because Society tolerates that, still, when they don’t tolerate the n-word. And there are countless others. They ALL should be erased from our vocabulary/vernacular, and NONE should be written out in journalism in some sort of tacit approval or some kind of hierarchy among slurs. Ludicrous.

  • cole3244

    as they say the truth hurts, sorry to try and enlighten you.

  • jomicur

    From dictionary.com:

    cult [kuhlt] Show IPA noun

    1. a particular system of religious worship, especially with reference to its rites and ceremonies.

    All religions are cults.

  • Ninong

    Who cares what he thinks or says? Those guys are so full of themselves that they don’t realize how much damage they’re doing to their ‘image’ with their outrageous public comments. They still think they’re some sort of moral authority. It’s pitiful.

  • TomTO

    Sorry, I wrote to the Domincan Rep Embassy in the US.

  • TomTO

    I wrote to the Domincan Republic in the US and received the below response:

    We can confirm that Mr. Brewster has already been
    accepted by the Dominican Republic as the next United States Ambassador to the
    country. Indeed, the standard procedure is for a Government to grant the
    agreement for a proposed Ambassadorship before the nominating country announces
    its decision.

    The Dominican Republic is a democracy with a vibrant
    media and a wide diversity of opinions on every conceivable topic. However, it
    is the position of the Government of the Dominican Republic that a person’s
    sexual preference is strictly a personal matter and it looks forward to working
    constructively with Mr. Brewster in his official capacity once his nomination is
    approved by the US Senate

  • Monoceros Forth

    …all religions are cults…

    Meaning? I guess you’re think you’re scoring points off religion by saying this–I’ve seen it before–but I’m not sure why. Obviously “cult” is supposed to be pejorative here, which really is a sloppy and unfortunate use of language. Certainly I wouldn’t want (for instance) for discussion of classical “mystery cults”, e.g. the Eleusinian cult, to be contaminated by some silly notion that “cult” was a slur.

  • kbhmsw

    This is great! I’m re-posting! :)

  • kbhmsw

    Why is it that this F-word is written out in full, but the N-word is always referred to, in voice and print media, as the “N-word”? Why is there a double-standard on these offensive slur words? It is just as bad to write out the F-word as it is to write out the N-word. Let’s erase these words from vocabulary, both of them! And a few others, as well, that are slurs used to denigrate entire groups of human beings!

  • Monoceros Forth

    There are a few words rattling around in here with different meanings and from different sources. Just for a taste of what a mess this is, read the discussion on these pages: http://books.google.com/books?id=_m7k1Oi-cakC&lpg=PA68&dq=%22fagging%22%20etymology&pg=PA67#v=onepage&q&f=false

    A fag in the sense of a lower-form student being made to run errands for an upperclassman probably harks back to the use of fag to mean “servant”, dating back to the 18th century, about which the source I cited says, “Fag ‘servant’ is an improbable continuation of fag ‘bundle’.” There is also another meaning to fag, possibly connected, of “remnant” or “something hanging loose”, as seen in the expression “fag-end of autumn” that pops up in The Return of the King meaning the very end of autumn just before the coming of winter.

    In any case the notion that fag in the sense of “homosexual” derives from witch-burning times is utter rubbish.

  • Monoceros Forth

    This is incorrect, as nicho points out below. Really you should educate yourself from more trustworthy sources than books from the Llewelyn catalogue.

  • Sweetie

    Douchbag is a sexist term and somewhat heterosexist as well.

  • Sweetie

    And Disqus blocks it. Not the f word, of course.

    “You can tell who has the power in a society by how easy it is to insult them.” — Dr. Stephanie Dunning

  • Sweetie

    “What kind of organization tolerates these kind of slurs, let alone the
    rape of children? Paula Deen, a TV chef, lost her entire career for
    admitting insensitivity to minorities. But a Catholic Cardinal does the
    same, and it’s no big deal – just another day at the altar.”

    Similarly, Tracey Morgan has a career but what happened to Michael Richards and Helen Thomas?

  • cole3244

    this is another of many reasons i (raised catholic) decided to become an atheist at 17, scum like this that represents a supposed religious cult (catholicism as all religions are cults) are beyond reprehensible and for intelligent people to support and belong to a cult that acts like this and abuses their children says so much about the lack of morality in today’s world and the charlatans the masses follow and respect as religious surrogates.

  • David T.

    Actually, the word “fag, or fagot” with ONE “G” means “bundle of sticks” or slang for a cigarette. That word is still used in the Uk, but they use the word for what it means, simply a bundle of sticks or cigarette. The word “Faggot” with 2 “G”s is a derogatory slang word people here in the US have created to refer to gay men.

  • http://AMERICAblog.com/ John Aravosis

    A stick on fire?

  • http://AMERICAblog.com/ John Aravosis

    We’re adults who need advertising income to survive, and if I write the n-word out in this post, no ads are going to run :)

  • scottrose

    I am now as before a Catholic and will always
    remain so.”

    — Adolf Hitler, to Gen. Gerhard Engel, 1941

    “I believe today that my conduct is in
    accordance with the will of the Almighty
    Creator.”

    — Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, p. 46

    “I am convinced that I am acting as the agent
    of our Almighty Creator. By fighting the Jews, I am doing the Lord’s
    work.”

    — Adolf Hitler, ibid. p. 65

    “This human world of ours would be
    inconceivable without the practical existence of a religious belief.”

    — Adolf Hitler, ibid. p 152

    “Thus inwardly armed with confidence in God
    and the unshakable stupidity of the voting citizenry, the politicians can begin
    the fight for the ‘remaking’ of the Reich as they call it.”

    — Adolf Hitler, ibid. Vol. 2 Chapter 1

    “The National Government will preserve and
    defend those basic principles on which our nation has been built. It regards
    Christianity as the foundation of our national morality, and the family as the
    basis of national life.”

    — Adolf Hitler, Berlin, 1933, first radio address
    after coming to power.

    “The national Government sees in both
    Christian denominations the most important factor for the maintenance of our
    society.”

    — Adolf Hitler, speech at the Reichstag, March 1933

    “Secular schools can never be tolerated
    because such a school has no religious instruction and a general moral
    instruction without a religious foundation is built on air; consequently, all
    character training and religion must be derived from faith … We need
    believing people.”

    — Adolf Hitler, April 1933, from a speech made
    during negotiations leading to the Nazi-Vatican Concordat of 1933

    “The fact that the Catholic Church has come to
    an agreement with Fascist Italy … proves beyond doubt that the Fascist world
    of ideas is closer to Christianity than those of Jewish liberalism or even
    atheistic Marxism…”

    — Adolf Hitler in an article in the Völkischer
    Beobachter, 1929

    “I am personally convinced of the great power
    and deep significance of Christianity, and I won’t allow any other religion to
    be promoted.”

    — Adolf Hitler

    “Today Christians … stand at the head of
    [this country]… I pledge that I never will tie myself to parties who want to
    destroy Christianity .. We want to fill our culture again with the Christian
    spirit … We want to burn out all the recent immoral developments in
    literature, in the theater, and in the press – in short, we want to burn out
    the poison of immorality which has entered into our whole life and culture as a
    result of liberal excess during the past … (few) years.”

    — Adolf Hitler, quoted in: The Speeches of Adolf
    Hitler, 1922-1939, Vol. 1

    “We were convinced that the people need and
    require this faith. We have therefore undertaken the fight against the
    atheistic movement, and that not merely with a few theoretical declarations; we
    have stamped it out.”

    — Adolf Hitler, speech on October 24, 1933

    “As for the Jews, I am just carrying on with
    the same policy which the Catholic Church has adopted for fifteen hundred
    years, when it has regarded the Jews as dangerous and pushed them into ghettos
    etc., because it knew what the Jews were like. I don’t put race above religion,
    but I do see the danger in the representatives of this race for Church and
    State, and perhaps I am doing Christianity a great service.”

    — Adolf Hitler, 1936, to Bishop Berning and Msg.
    Steinman, representatives of Pope Pius XI

    “The work that Christ started but could not
    finish, I — Adolf Hitler — will conclude.”

    — Adolf Hitler, December 1926. Here, here, and here
    are more of his quotes on religion, God, and Christianity. Here are Nazi photos
    showing their alliance with Christianity.

    Note that Adolf Hitler was never excommunicated or
    in any other way officially censured by the Catholic Church. The only
    high-ranking Catholic Nazi to be excommunicated was Propaganda Minister Joseph
    Goebbels — because he married a divorced Protestant woman.

    “The party, as such, stands for positive
    Christianity, without, however, allying itself to any particular
    denomination.”

    Article 24, Program of the National Socialist
    German Workers’ (Nazi) Party

    “I swear by God this sacred oath that I shall
    render unconditional obedience to Adolf Hitler, the Leader of the German
    empire, supreme commander of the armed forces, and that I shall at all times be
    prepared, as a brave soldier, to give my life for this oath.”

    German WWII Military Oath

    “Our religion is Christ, our politics
    Fatherland!”

    — slogan of Hans Schemm, Bavarian Minister of
    Education and Culture during the Third Reich

    More Resources:

    http://nobeliefs.com/Hitler1.htm

    Further resources:

    http://www.spirituallysmart.com/nazi.html

  • RoughRugger

    Can we PLEASE stop using “n-word”, “c-word”, “f-word”, et al in rational discussions?? We’re adults here, and it’s not going to burn our eyeballs out to see “adult” words. As J.K. Rowling wrote, “Fear of a name increases fear of the thing itself.”

  • scottrose

    At the link below is the full text of the
    “Reichskonkordat,” the political treaty between the Vatican and Adolf
    Hitler. At the time this treaty was signed, the anti-Jewish racial laws were
    already in force in Nazi Germany:

    Here is an example of what is in the treaty:

    Article 3

    In order to foster good relations between the
    Holy See and the German Reich, an apostolic nuncio will reside in the capital
    of the German Reich and an ambassador of the German Reich at the Holy See.

    http://www.concordatwatch.eu/showkb.php?org_id=858&kb_header_id=752&kb_id=1211

  • FLL

    Interesting question, John, about whether the Pope is going to start using the n-word for blacks and the c-word for women. Honestly, some of these Catholic cardinals deserve the c-word more than any woman I ever met.

    I love being secular, but I was technically raised Catholic (although during my childhood, we went to church about once a year). The proper term for Cardinal Lopez Rodriguez is:

    Papist douchebag (although we could certainly get more vulgar and colorful)

  • douglas01

    And this man calls himself a christian? He is certainly NOT a man of god.

  • dcinsider

    I’m sure he meant it in the nicest way.

  • nicho

    Yes and no. Faggots were bundles of sticks often used to burn witches and heretics, but the term applied to a male homosexual didn’t come about until the early part of the last century — and in the US, not Europe.

  • JozefAL

    Now, please explain how that word became a slang for “cigarettes” (still used in Britain, even today). And, also how the word became used in the British “public” school system by older students for a younger student. (In the latter sense, it actually had the sense of “gofer” since the younger “fag” would be sent to get something for the older student.) Now, I can see how the slang for “cigarette” came about, since you light a cigarette but I’ve yet to discover how its use came to be for a younger public school student.

  • DrDignity

    How interesting! The term “faggot” is an English word which meant “bundle of sticks.” During the Reformation & before, a homosexual “faggot” was placed on the stake to make the fire hotter so a witch would burn better. How ironic for the good priest to use slang to describe someone the Inquisition persecuted. Women were often branded witches if they were in any way independent, educated, or self-sufficient or an object of jealousy.

  • kingstonbears

    Hmmmm, does that mean we can now call him a pedophile/enabler hate monger? Hey, if the shoe fits.

  • nicho

    Don’t forget the US cardinals who are considered princes of a foreign government and who have sworn allegiance to the leader of that government. Have they registered as foreign lobbyists? And why haven’t their US passports been revoked?

  • jm2

    you do realize the U.S. is going to back down & withdraw Brewster’s appointment? if they don’t, i would be the biggest one surprised! it would not be in keeping with the ‘make no waves’ policy of Obama………

  • http://voenixrising.com/ Mark Alexander

    So says the pedophile/enabler in the big fancy smock.

  • Guest

    So says the pedophile/enabler in the fancy smock.

  • Dave of the Jungle

    Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition.

  • sane37

    In all fairness it used to be preceded by the word “Roman”.

  • woodroad34

    Even the word “catholic” is a lie; well, except that it might also mean universally vituperative, criminal, amoral, venal, vox satana

  • Bill_Perdue

    Would you be surprised if, in that event, democrats had the guts to override them?

  • Bill_Perdue

    The roman cult is the second most dangerous organization on the planet in terms of causing deaths and engaging in criminal activities. The US government, of course, is the most dangerous. Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, etc, etc, etc. Millions and millions of dead.

    The roman cult is part of the entertainment industry.

    – Tax them and present them with a bill for back taxes.

    – Expel foreign born priests.

    – Treat the roman cult’s clergy as an international conspiracy to rape children, launder money, engage in massive fraud, including practicing medicine without a license and, after investigations, begin arresting bishops and priests wholesale.

    – Confiscate their assets, including real estate, precious metals, jewelry, bank accounts and investments to compensate their victims and pay for sex education and STD prevention.

    – Secularize, without compensation, their schools and universities, including seminaries, hospitals and other venues to prevent rape and fraud.

  • S1AMER

    I would not be surprised if Senate Republicans use local animosity as an excuse for blocking approval, ’cause, you know, the United States must be sensitive to local opinion in ambassadorial appointments.

  • Leota2

    Ahhh, the Catholic church, hater of women and gays—enabler of pedophiles and fascist priests.

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