The fake scandals hide the real ones (thoughts on Weiner-gate, and scandals that actually matter)

The Weiner scandal shows everything that is wrong with US establishment media.

The only sex behavior they recognize as a “scandal” is adultery, so the question every pundit asks is ‘what must his wife think,’ as if the only problem with Weiner’s tweets was that he was married.

The fake Weiner scandal grinds on. Meanwhile the true scandal of the New York city politician who was forced to resign after sending unsolicited pictures of his genitals to a constituent, and appears to have relapsed into similar behavior during a run for NYC mayor, is ignored.

The problem with Anthony Weiner is not that he is cheating on his wife. The original problem with Anthony Weiner was that he seems to have a problem with indecent exposure. The latest problem with Weiner is that he still seems to be seeking the same thrill.

I really have no problem with adulterous politicians. Let them post the necessary in Craigslist Casual Encounters, and line their paramours up in the halls of Gracie Mansion if they like. Borderline (or not so borderline) sexual harassment is a totally different matter.

This isn’t the first time the US media botched a sex scandal. The attacks on Anita Hill during the Clarence Thomas confirmation hearings demonstrated the extent of Washington’s lack of concern for victims of sexual harassment.

Gresham’s law holds that the bad money drives out the good. The same appears to be true of US political scandals. David Corn writing in Mother Jones reports on ‘Groundswell’, a group of lunatic electoral liabilities for the Republican Party who meet each Wednesday to discuss how to make the party more electable. Their plan earlier this year was to have Boehner and Company focus even more on the Benghazi, and Fast and Furious, scandals.

Contrary to what the establishment media would have people believe, there has been no shortage of scandals that the GOP could have used to their political advantage. Obama, for example, closed the torture chambers run by George W. Bush, but he continued and expanded the drone wars and the NSA war on privacy. The Republican party has had no shortage of genuine scandals that they could have held hearings on, but they wasted their opportunities and their credibility on stories that are only scandals to their supporters (anything involving “Susan Rice” comes to mind).

It wouldn’t take much for someone to become the grownup in the room on drone warfare. Just pointing out that other countries are going to find it much easier to acquire a fleet of drones than fighter jets on a par with NATO planes would be a start. And while the US establishment is congratulating itself on staying out of Syria’s civil war, the US military is de-facto fighting the government’s battles for them in Sudan.

Anthony Weiner is simply this week’s latest fake scandal to hide the real scandals.

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  • tsuki

    The NSA scandal is real, but the Republicans voted to back Obama. I think the electorate noticed.

  • lynchie

    Had some friends over yesterday and this was one topic that was discussed. I asked the women what they thought. They all agreed on two things. 1. He is all about his Weiner. 2. Huma was all about her power position. If he goes away, that takes her out of the mix and harder for her to maintain any power she has. I asked about the marriage they all agreed that even cobras mate. Huma found a congressman to marry which was high visibility, he screwed up, but mayor of new york is as visible as it gets they would be the power couple in New York state and all the wealth and influence that provides. They all agree his politics are unknown, he did nothing in Congress and is another self entitled pissant who thinks he is somebody. A jew and and arab married, how cool. One other thought how long has he been doing this, is it something he started two years ago or is some of this creepy behavior been part of his persona that he really can’t stop. Poll of 5 women, 4 liberal, 1 independent. By the way the ribs were great, the beer, greater (love me some Yingling).

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    Calling Mrs.Lorena Babbitt!

  • http://parkandbark.wordpress.com/ Houndentenor

    So we’re all qualified to diagnose “sex addiction” now? *rolls eyes*

  • http://parkandbark.wordpress.com/ Houndentenor

    and Eisenhower, Nixon, and Bush I. They all had affairs and it wasn’t reported even though the press knew about it. So long as there was no crime committed or national security breach, it’s none of our business.

  • http://parkandbark.wordpress.com/ Houndentenor

    The media only gives this much air time to scandals involving sex. You can commit whatever crimes you want and get away with them as long as you keep your dick in your pants.

  • http://parkandbark.wordpress.com/ Houndentenor

    He hit send all. Stupid mistake. He paid for it with his career. He’s not going to be mayor and his wife will file for divorce by the end of the year. I don’t think we’ll see any charges for indecent exposure. That’s just silly. And if it is then what about all the websites and “news” sources that have plastered the pics (those and others) everywhere for anyone to see. I still don’t think this story warranted the hours and hours of self-righteous posturing by the news media, and I guarandamntee you that at least one of those holier-than-thou commentators has done the exact same thing.

  • MyrddinWilt

    Only the second time round. The first time round he sent the crotch shot unsolicited and then lied claiming his Twitter account had been hacked. He spent $45K of campaign funds to research what he knew was a lie.

    Like an alcoholic back drinking again, Weiner’s latest behavior demonstrates that he has a control problem. Only indecent exposure is pretty damn serious stuff.

  • http://parkandbark.wordpress.com/ Houndentenor

    Nope. The women with whom he was sharing pictures were chatting with him and sharing pics of their own. That is not the same as flashing someone on the street. Sorry, but folks are reaching to make this into a bigger scandal that it was. If what he did was illegal, then charge his with a crime and we’ll have a trial. If dirty talk on the internet and sharing x-rated pics of one’s self are crimes, we’re going to need a hell of a lot more prisons because quite a few people have sent me pictures of their penises over the years. This is not something that is rare in our culture.

  • News Nag

    You are almost as bad as Weiner, emjayay, because you so grossly overlook the space invader indecent exposure aspect, which is the main problem with what he did. It’s as if he walked up to women he didn’t know and pulled a photo of his penis out of his pocket and shoved it in their faces. There’s no First or Second Life bullshit about it whatsoever. Are you so removed from reality by your own porn addiction, or whatever, that you can’t see the actual harm in forcing yourself on others. And yes you can watch porn, but the huge majority of its on-camera female participants are exploited and abused, mostly economically but also personally. It’s NOT consensual when it’s forced on you by the economy and its patriarchal inequality of income and opportunity.

  • News Nag

    Yes, but you overlook the worst aspect and it is the indecent exposure. It’s as if he walked up to women he didn’t know and pulled a photo of his penis out of his pocket and shoved it in her face. What he did was illegal and he’s a space invader, and they are not merely impish, they are dangerous.

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    “Lies, stupidity, possible sex addiction, ego, poor judgment, etc. are the problems here.” Bingo—-beginning and end

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    Either you are incredibly stupid, insensitive and racist or don’t realize what you just wrote. There is nothing fake about the murder of an unarmed child by an adult with a gun. Shame on you.

  • ArthurH

    Maybe if Anthony Weiner got a radio show he wouldn’t be befouling the New York mayor’s race. Whenever major players in a Republican scandal are identified, when its all over they get radio shows (often syndicated). Think Oliver North and G. Gordon Liddy (at least Liddy got knocked of Chicago radio when sponsors objected to him joking with a caller that he take a second gun with him on a trip to New York to put in the hand of his victim after plugging an unramed man he thought was trying to rob him). Even extreme right-wing Republicans voted out of office get local radio shows (the odious Joe Walsh now stinks up the airwaves week nights on Chicago’s WIND-AM). Couldn’t a needy New York radio station have found room for Weiner?

  • http://parkandbark.wordpress.com/ Houndentenor

    Do you have any evidence that he sent his pics to anyone under age? I am not going to deal in abstract possibilities. It’s only a crime if it happened.

    None of this convinces me that I should care that he likes to sext. It was stupid but if stupid is a crime we’re going to need a hell of a lot more prisons. We have a press corps that allows politicians to lie on the air and fails to point it out. They are allowed to make ridiculous statements with no proof and again they aren’t called out. But if you’ve gotten caught with your pants down, that’s a three day story. Minimum. I find that absurd. Again, I’d love to watch these talking heads get the same treatment they dish out. Every one of them has something embarrassing they’d rather we didn’t know. The sheer hypocrisy of it makes me want sick.

  • Thom Allen

    I don’t live in NYC, either.

    Whose business it is, or isn’t, is immaterial to the points I raised. Lies, stupidity, possible sex addiction, ego, poor judgment, etc. are the problems here.

    You seem to think that in the genteel past privacy was protected. Again, not so. I mentioned Rome and the fact that the plebs knew about the foibles of those patricians with feet of clay. The same holds true of other, older cultures. More recently, see Alexander Hamilton’s apology for his adultery. Hamilton was a victim of blackmail. Alan Turing was publicly outed and punished and eventually committed suicide because of his homosexuality. Rock Hudson probably wasn’t outed because it would have been really bad for business.

    The press isn’t to blame for picking up this story. There would be no story to pick up had Weiner kept little Oscar Meyer in the bun. Do you think that, with his past history, people wouldn’t be watching for a repeat of the same behavior? He’s also doing this online. Sending X-rated photos off to young women. Tell me, how can he be sure that his dick pics aren’t going to a thirteen year old pretending to be 21? Again, sheer stupidity on his part.

  • http://parkandbark.wordpress.com/ Houndentenor

    I wouldn’t have voted for Weiner anyway. (I lived in nyc for 15 years but don’t any more.) People are free to decide which candidates to support based on whatever criteria they choose. I still don’t think that private consensual behavior is anyone else’s business. Okay, since he was married, it’s his wife’s business. But it’s most certainly none of mine.

    As for privacy of public figures, no we no longer allow them any privacy. We did at one time. Everyone in Hollywood and in the entertainment press knew that Rock Hudson was gay but they didn’t print it. The same goes for the many affairs of our presidents before Clinton. The press didn’t report on it. I don’t think someone gives up their right to have private consensual relationships by becoming an actor, musician or politician.

    I can’t believe I’m in the position of defending someone I don’t even like, but this has gotten to be ridiculous. Every person shouldn’t have to sign up for some lurid reality show in order to do something in public. If there was a crime committed (as with Spitzer) that’s another matter. But the media’s hypocritical round of slut-shaming over this is absurd. I’ve had enough of it. Again, if you weren’t doing it with me and it wasn’t a crime, I don’t have any right to know about it.

  • Ninong

    Weiner should have stayed retired from public life for the sake of the Democratic Party. The Weiner news just keeps dribbling out day after day. Now it’s being reported that he paid more than $43,000 in CAMPAIGN FUNDS to a private detective to find the hacker who posted those crotch shots to his Twitter account — probably the same guy O.J. hired to find the real killer — plus thousands more to a law firm. No wonder his campaign manager quit.

  • Thom Allen

    Again, you’re missing some significant points about Weiner and his behaviors OTHER than his sexting.

  • Thom Allen

    I didn’t say that it WASN’T between the two of them. BrandySpears said that Weiner’s actions hurt no one. That’s obviously wrong.

    You’re missing the several major points:

    1. Weiner continues to LIE. Initially he LIED to the press, public and his wife. He said that someone had hacked his account and that this was all some kind of prank. Lies. Then he said that he had therapy and that this issue was behind him. Then he did it again, multiple times and got caught again. This leads to a few other points.

    2. Incredibly poor judgment. His first foray into sexting cost him his Congressional seat, damaged his marriage and made him an international laughingstock. In spite of that, he did it again. Can you say “sexual addiction”? Would you want a politician in office who was a known alcoholic or drug abuser and had been caught twice and continued to repeat the same behavior?

    3. These behaviors, repeated sexting and exhibitionism issues, can easily set him up for blackmail. Would you want a mayor with a known compulsion to continue sexting, and that compulsion is well and publicly known, to be in office? So a crime figure, major corporation, neo-nazi group sets him up, gets him sexting again then threatens to ruin him unless he does what they want. And Weiner, hungry to keep power, becomes a puppet. No, NOT a good choice for mayor or any other office.

    4. Incredible ego. He hasn’t accomplished much at all politically. He’s embarrassed himself, his family and friends, blatantly lied and yet he thinks everyone should forgive him and vote for him. Why? Just because Mark Sanford set a precedent? The South Carolina RepubliCONs may find fraud, abandonment of duty and lying OK, but I don’t think New York will or should.

    5. Public figures have never really have private lives. Hollywood actors, rock stars, politicians, millionaires, etc. are always having their most minor foibles broadcast. Even during the Roman Empire the plebes were aware of the Emperor’s excesses. To think otherwise is naive. And what is “private?” Weiner’s income tax returns? His social schedule? His campaign donors? Weiner stuck his cock in the public eye more than once. If he truly valued his privacy, and his family’s, he would have at least stopped after the first episode.

    6. Stupidity. How many other publIc figures have had their careers damaged or ended because of what they said, did or posted on the internet? Weiner obviously knew of many others who have done things similar to what he did and paid a high price for it. Yet he did it anyway (see 2 and 4 above).

    Weiner has nothing good to offer. He needs to get some serious treatment fir his psychological issues and work on repairing the damage he’s done to his family, if he can.

  • Ferdiad

    I don’t know who is going to be – but I know it isn’t this guy.

  • lynchie

    Then let him work for Bill Clinton. They can travel the world getting BJ’s and showing their equipment. All these asshats who want power and to some extent power over people have to earn it. Just because weiner (I just imagined his life growing up and the school kids harassing him over his name, probably where his preoccupation with his dick came from) wants to be mayor doesn’t give him the job.

  • Bill_Perdue

    Zimmerman is a mad dog racist murderer. Period. Full stop.

  • Bill_Perdue

    Weiner’s worst crime is that he’s in a party run by warmongers, union busters and lap dogs of the rich campaigning to cut Social Security..

    He and Quinn, the quintessential corrupt machine pol, are proud member’s of a party on the forefront of a suddenly much more dangerous attack on civil liberties which includes Obama ordering the racist murders of Anwar al-Aulaqi, Samir Khan, ‘Abd al-Rahman Anwar al-Aulaqi and Jude Mohammed, NDAA (1), the detention, trial and torture of Brad Manning and the attempted kidnapping of Snowden.

    (1) Section 1021 of the National Defense Authorization Act of 2012 calls for indefinite “Detention under the law of war without trial until the end of the hostilities authorized by the Authorization for Use of Military Force.” Of: “A person who was a part of or substantially supported al-Qaeda, the Taliban, or associated forces that are engaged in hostilities against the United States or its coalition partners, including any person who has committed a belligerent act or has directly supported such hostilities in aid of such enemy forces.

    Voting for Democrats is the same as voting for Republicans because both are enemies of the Bill of Righs, working people and world peace.

  • Max_1

    Washington Post Cartoon:

    Exposing the Media
    http://wapo.st/15gDIMQ

    July 24 2013 7:57 PM EDT —
    Comparing the coverage of Anthony Weiner and the NSA scandals.
    (Ann Telnaes / The Washington Post)

  • http://parkandbark.wordpress.com/ Houndentenor

    And that is between the two of them. It’s none of our business. As for trust…a politician? Are you mad? Weiner is a douchebag and we can talk about that but we should talk about his past campaign tactics, not his personal business.

  • http://parkandbark.wordpress.com/ Houndentenor

    Are we really supposed to believe than none of these media critics that are so fake-outraged over the Weiner scandal have never flirted with someone outside their marriage? How many of them have cheated on their wives and husbands? We are a nation of hypocrites who act appalled when people are caught doing things we ourselves have done. I call bullshit on the lot of them.

  • MyrddinWilt

    Tell that to Treyvon Martin’s parents.

    Treyvon’s murder was the result of Zimmerman’s racism and his belief that Florida’s stand your ground law gave him carte blanche to gun down people he suspected of being bad. We don’t know which of them assaulted the other first but Zimmerman’s behavior would have put many reasonable people in fear of attack.

  • http://parkandbark.wordpress.com/ Houndentenor

    and who is that going to be? Who has never done anything that some self-righteous hypocrites won’t be fake-outraged by? We actually allow judges to rule on cases involving friends who pay for their lavish vacations and that’s not a scandal. We allow them to lie and cheat and steal. But if they dare have an affair (which the majority of Americans have done, btw) or engage in a little sexual flirting online (which the majority of Americans have also done) that is what our pathetic excuse for a media fixates on. That’s what’s revolting. What pictures someone shares on the internet is none of my concern. It’s also none of my business who they sleep with. There was a time when the press focused on real news and left this kind of rubbish to the tabloids. There’s now hardly any difference between CNN and the National Enquirer. How sad for our country and what’s worse, these seem to be the only stories that viewers tune in for so we will keep getting more of them.

  • emjayay

    A lot of us enjoy ours and some of us kind of like other guys’ as well. But even if no harm done (I’m not saying there wasn’t, but at least it wasn’t in real life although it was First Life not Second Life.) Weiner is an complete idiot at least in the use of internet department. And guess what Anthony, we all have one of those.

    Clinton’s problem is that it was in real life and he was in a bit of a position of power and she was a much younger intern, even if she was really really looking for it. All rather undignified, and also idiotic. His famous quote was in my book actually factual, if totally intended to mislead – “having sex” is intercourse to me anyway. Doing stuff because you can may be lots of fun, but sometimes guess what – you can’t. When you are in public life it’s, well, public. It’s not 1940 or 1960. Watch porn on your private computer, politicians. I suppose even if you just watch porn on your private computer and then burn the thing someone may be able to figure out what you watched in various ways. Better use a DVD instead of the internet. Better yet, French postcards, politicians.

  • http://www.rebeccamorn.com/mind BeccaM

    Yes, especially if you include the treason Reagan engaged in, secretly negotiating with the Iranians before the election. The man should’ve spent the last 20-odd years of his life rotting in prison, not being idolized by the right.

  • emjayay

    Well he seemed to be. Until now.

  • emjayay

    Or FDR. Uh-oh, our Democratic saints. I’m guessing Harry was true to Bess. Oh, another Demo saint, Carter, was no doubt affair free too. I’m not being sarcastic – they all were saints, or at least inspirational stars. LBJ isn’t known as a saint but he did as much of God’s work as any of them. And was unfaithful too.

  • emjayay

    Iran-Contra was way beyond impeachable and convictable for all concerned including the genial actor who probably was actually able to believe it sort of never happened because those fine people couldn’t really have done anything wrong. It was way beyond Watergate. The whole crew should have been tossed out by any standard. Oh and the Clinton impeachment – jeeeze, give me a break.

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    And worse, a small bandy prick with a power fetish over women assuming high office. Weiner is a loud mouth loser and is sinking his own boat.

  • cole3244

    he’s a clown, get rid of him, spending anymore time discussing his fetish is a waste of valuable time and energy and shows how lazy the media really are and the short attention span of the public.

  • guest1

    George Zimmerman is a fake scandal to

  • MyrddinWilt

    Thinking about the issue a little more this morning, I think that the reason the establishment isn’t concerned about the harassment, borderline rapey behavior is that it doesn’t teach any of the lessons they want to teach. Calling that behavior a scandal doesn’t teach the virtues of heterosexual monogamous marriage.

  • Whitewitch

    Gosh I am tired of men and their love of their own penis. Sure they are really great and super fun…but man it is not the BEST thing ever and you don’t have to share it with everyone. I would not support a man that can not (a) who molests women without their consent; and (b) lies about cheating. Bill Clinton lost me when he just wouldn’t say, “yeah she blew me…and so what”. Sorry if you are so sure it is okay then don’t lie about it.

  • Ferdiad

    The other very important point that everyone seems to be missing is that it is very dangerous to have politicians in power who do things that allow others to hang something over their head. there are lots of unscrupulous people out there. But do you really want someone in control of lots of money and contracts and power who can be blackmailed? I don’t have a major problem with someone else’s adultery either, but that changes when that person is a public official. It is too risky to put someone with that weak of conviction in charge of so many important things.

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    Agreed

  • lynchie

    Agree. In addition what has he ever done as a congressman. Sure he yelled at a few Republicans but other than a bill to stop smuggling cigarettes he did nothing. Here is a site which sums up his career and at the bottom goes over the time line of is sexting. Apparently he even told the women he was involved with that his marriage to Huma was an arranged one for political reasons. Not a man I would vote for or trust.

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    Actually, Weiner, as mayor of NY, flashing his pud to the likes of Angela Merkle, Quinn, or having a micrometer contest with Putin does have a certain anarchist appeal to it.

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    One can only imagine what Kennedy would have experienced in an Internet age!

  • Thom Allen

    Of course, the REAL question is https://tinyurl.com/weiner-s-a-dick
    Can he still measure up to the job?

  • Thom Allen

    Weiner lied when the first sexting scandal broke. He lied to the press, public, to his wife – insisting that someone else had posted that photo. Later he finally admitted that he did it. Subsequent to that, he said that he changed and wanted to put all of that behind him, focus on the issues that face NYC. And he said that he went to counseling over the original sexting issues. Apparently, this latest series of pictures and messages to, perhaps, a dozen women started at about the same time he was reporting his “change.”

    I realize that all politicians lie. But this is a little much. I’m not concerned so much with WHAT he’s lying about, as I am with the fact that he has lied. That and the fact that this seems to be a form of addiction with him. He continues to repeat the same behavior that almost destroyed his career and marriage, made him an international laughingstock. He needs to step away from politics. I really believe that this is an addiction issue for him. Would we want to vote for a heroin addict for mayor who has just relapsed and been shooting up again. Then trying to push on, without treatment, saying that, everything will be OK? Clearly, he still has significant issues with performing acts that are career-damaging. He should not be in a position of power. Imagine, if he were elected and continues his sexting. Perhaps the next time he’s does it, the lady involved will use the photos and texts to blackmail him. So there would be a NYC mayor who, desperate to keep another scandal quiet, agreeing to the demands of someone.

  • Thom Allen

    I disagree. Unless Huma and their son don’t count. Or the people who trusted him after he said that he had “changed.” Te people who viewed him as a viable alternative to Quinn.

  • http://www.rebeccamorn.com/mind BeccaM

    The Powers That Be and their media lackeys ignore the real scandals because they don’t object to those ones.

    There’s no shortage of politicians with kinks, quirks, or pathological conditions that ought to make them ineligible for high office. Besides Weiner and his squik for exposing himself to women, there’s David Vitter and his diapers, Mark Foley and his pedophilia, Clarence Thomas and his weird attempts to turn his office life into a porn movie LARP.

    Yes, much of it speaks to their character, and we ought not be electing hypocrites and reprobates to high office. However, when a true scandal comes along, whether it was Iran-Contra, a stolen presidential election (or two), ignoring the 9/11 warning signs, lying us into a totally unrelated war, engaging in torture or the wholesale shredding of our Constitution, it’s ignored, minimized, and swept under the rug as soon as possible — why? Why the difference?

    It’s because the phony scandals are how the Powers That Be struggle among themselves for political supremacy. They work diligently to hide the real ones because those are the actions they actually agree upon and would seek to do no matter which of them was in control of the government.

    Or to put it another way, none of them wants to undo that which they’d like to have the option to do themselves when in power.

  • lynchie

    My issue with Weiner is the lying and his obvious love for himself and his parts. He needs counseling. I think he also loves that he is the story. It is all about him not the people of NYC.

  • BrandySpears

    Weiner’s actions were not criminal and hurt no one. Now, Elliot Spitzer, a lawmaker, prosecuted the johns of prostitutes, a Class E felony, all the while using a state issued cell phone to solicit prostitutes for himself. Spitzer should surrender himself for prosecution under the laws that he championed.

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