Shorter Obama: “All leakers are traitors”

I’m post-processing an excellent trip to the Netroots Nation conference this past week, so writing will be slow for a bit, but I wanted to share this about Edward Snowden and the larger Obama war on leaks. The headline says it all —

Obama’s crackdown views leaks as aiding enemies of U.S.

Shorter Obama: “All leakers are traitors.” Read the story for the proof of my translation.

But there’s so much more here as well. Government employees are being required to watch their co-workers for signs of stress, unhappiness, job-dissatisfaction, or even post-divorce depression — and snitch. Those who don’t snitch are subject to discipline themselves. Amazing the power the man — in this case, the man is Obama — arrogates to himself. If he were just a neighbor, I’d call this a power trip.

This is a McClatchy story and it’s making the rounds. I encourage all of you (if the subject interests you) to read it all. There’s no fluff, and I can’t quote more than a chunk or two.

Marisa Taylor and Jonathan S. Landay report (my emphasis and paragraphing):

Even before a former U.S. intelligence contractor exposed the secret collection of Americans’ phone records, the Obama administration was pressing a government-wide crackdown on security threats that requires federal employees to keep closer tabs on their co-workers and exhorts managers to punish those who fail to report their suspicions.

A representative from the U.S. State Department congratulates and offers a partial payment to an informant, whose information led to the neutralization of a terrorist in the Philippines.

A representative from the U.S. State Department congratulates and offers a partial payment to an informant, whose information led to the neutralization of a terrorist in the Philippines (source).

President Barack Obama’s unprecedented initiative, known as the Insider Threat Program, is sweeping in its reach. It has received scant public attention even though it extends beyond the U.S. national security bureaucracies to most federal departments and agencies nationwide, including the Peace Corps, the Social Security Administration and the Education and Agriculture departments. It emphasizes leaks of classified material, but catchall definitions of “insider threat” give agencies latitude to pursue and penalize a range of other conduct.

Government documents reviewed by McClatchy illustrate how some agencies are using that latitude to pursue unauthorized disclosures of any information, not just classified material. They also show how millions of federal employees and contractors must watch for “high-risk persons or behaviors” among co-workers and could face penalties, including criminal charges, for failing to report them. Leaks to the media are equated with espionage.

“Hammer this fact home . . . leaking is tantamount to aiding the enemies of the United States,” says a June 1, 2012, Defense Department strategy for the program that was obtained by McClatchy. The Obama administration is expected to hasten the program’s implementation as the government grapples with the fallout from the leaks of top secret documents by Edward Snowden, the former National Security Agency contractor who revealed the agency’s secret telephone data collection program.

See what I mean? This is nothing less than a “snitch program” of monstrous proportions. The article correctly identifies the real “Insider Threat” as the treat to reputation, not the threat to security.

Eavesdropping, by Shutterstock

Eavesdropping, by Shutterstock

So that’s your first take-away. Then there’s this, from Obama’s mouth:

“Leaks related to national security can put people at risk,” Obama said on May 16 in defending criminal investigations into leaks. “… So I make no apologies, and I don’t think the American people would expect me as commander in chief not to be concerned about information that might compromise their missions or might get them killed.”

Given that this is the Agriculture Department he’s talking about, not just the Barack Obama Drone-Kill List (and storm door company), I’m struck by that whole wrapping himself in “commander-in-chief” thing. Is there something about this stuff he personally enjoys?

I keep showing this clip for a reason. I think he’s totally sincere, and it totally creeps me out. I mean that.

Anyway, please do read the McClatchy piece all the way through. Look for phrases like “toxic work environments poisoned by unfounded suspicions and spurious investigations.” The government is upping its game, by an order of magnitude.


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  • Butch1

    No worries; “Still on the green side of the turf”. ;-) How about you?

  • mirth

    Hello, friend. How’s you?
    Sorry about the late reply. I just now saw what you wrote.

  • Kataphractos

    you sure do sound concerned.

  • Butch1

    Hello there. ;-)

  • Butch1


  • Ford Prefect

    Yeah, but I bet he’s sleeping better these days.

  • Like Dubya, Obozo thinks it was his destiny to be born on the ladder’s paint platform, just a step away from ultimate ‘decidership.’

  • Time for my Mrs. Doubtfire disguise!

  • Now that Mr. Ed has been reduced to a cartoon slot on the weekend, there ain’t much liberal left at MSNBC.

  • A little off topic, but what you say is possible. Over the past few decades I have lived in a half dozen states and a few countries, but the Lillian Vernon catalog is still delivered at my door every six months—–

  • Yes, indeed. It begins with a down arrow, compliance, and finally collaboration.

  • How in the hell are we of my generation going to go into that dark night that is descending so quickly on this nation? I hope I pass before the worst of it engulfs seniors in misery.

  • :-)

  • lynchie

    That is not my point. What Ohighness is asking is that we turn in people based on a huge set of criteria, and your view of what is secure and what is harmful to the nation as a whole is not decided by you. To simply reveal that we have an illegal spy program is information we all should know about. That is all he has revealed there are no secrets shared other than the program exists and that is embarassing not critical to national security.

  • benb

    Only if a person with a clearance is working on a project requiring a clearance. Pilots can drink off-duty but, if you’re the navigator and have reason to believe he had one too many martinis at lunch, I think you’lre more inclined to do something that would be called ‘snitching’. It’s easier to do this because it’s clearly a Safety issue.

    Likewise, Security work requires higher work standards but the difference is that classified info is compartmentalized (you only get access to the info you need to do your job) so it may not look as worrisome as a drunk pilot but it may very well be.

  • GaiusPublius

    Thanks, both of you. I really appreciate hearing that.


  • I know what you mean. I saw Lawrence O’Donnell’s statement on the whole treason angle, which makes those politicians using the term even more stupid, ridiculous, and flat-out wrong.

    As he put it, the definition of treason is one of the very few laws actually written into our Constitution. And both it and previous SCOTUS rulings have made it clear that it is only applicable when there is an officially declared war. AUMF doesn’t cut it, and neither does ‘chilly relations’ with another nation.

  • Yep, like the one that declared that potatoes were really white beef steaks.

  • Yep!

  • Or see Sarah Palin without makeup and you laugh.

  • Or see Sarah Palin without makeup and you laugh.

  • So it is

  • So it is

  • Indeed, a hustler tool weened in the sewer politics of Chicago.

  • Because teabags and low information cons don’t or can’t read the Constitution they don’t realize that the label ‘traitor’ is technically, virtually impossible to sustain in a court. That’s why our Obozo, the Constitutional scholar, feels he is free to assassinate any American anywhere he designs to be a citizen actively abetting any enemy at war. ( even if it’s not a Compressional declared war.)

  • agreed!

  • I couldn’t agree more. If it weren’t for Gaius and the regulars I would fade away.

  • htfd

    As a matter of fact many, many people were, but people like you were to afraid of terrorist to question anything, including the whole 9/11 attack. But they sure were fast to label the questions as conspiracy theories.

  • htfd

    It sounds like acute paranoia on Obama’s part. By the way isn’t paranoia a mental disorder. Anybody remember Dr Strangelove? Just where in the Constitution does it state that terms of employment require you to spy on your fellow employees? Time to get out the straight jack or are Obama cheerleaders all for the loose lips sinks ships bs in our government?

  • Max_1

    Cheney may have shot his lawyer in the face…
    … But he never ordered the murder of 4 Americans without dues process.

  • Max_1

    Often is not often enough…

  • That’s mainly because if you knew of someone speaking or acting against the state, and didn’t report it, you could just as easily be disappeared as an accomplice. They didn’t have a problem with jailing whole families for the actions of one person. The old classic “You’re either with us, or you’re against us.” mentality.

  • DrDignity

    Soon, postal workers snitching on each other, pupils on teachers, children on their parents. Have we been down this road before?

  • Bill_Perdue

    All we need is an enabling act…

  • Bill_Perdue

    The people you refer to aren’t leftists, they’re Democrats.

  • mirth

    I seldom comment, Gaius, but I read every word that you write as well as the links you provide. I also read the net widely. In my opinion, your in-depth look at and analysis of any given subject is the best it offers. I am certainly a better informed citizen because of you.

  • Ford Prefect

    Thankfully, yes.

  • tsuki

    Obama’s earned his “legacy”…Worse than Nixon.

  • GaiusPublius

    And I am ever so grateful, mirth. Thanks!


  • mirth

    The only “least offensive” I noted about electing O over Romney was having Michelle instead of Ann and her creepy sons. But that certainly wasn’t enough for me to vote for one shade of an agenda over another shade of the same agenda. I’m done with that nonsense.

    Gaius, you and most of the commenters are now the only reasons I visit this site and yours are the only posts I thoroughly and gratefully read.

  • samizdat

    Man, I would kill to remember any ONE of the many jokes I’ve heard made around the notorious nature of PRAVDA lacking any resemblance to its meaning in Russian (which I’m sure you know): truth

  • samizdat

    It does usually seem to work that way, don’t it?

  • Sri

    Obama the Nobel Laureate .. what shinning example of Hypocrisy all the tears you have shed against warrant-less wire-tapping .. were crocodile tears.. the sheep got what they deserved, a Shepard that sells them to a butcher.

  • lynchie

    You my friend would have loved Russia. Report anything/anybody who “you” decide is different.

  • DrDignity

    This will either have a cannibalisation effect in the workplace where no one trusts anyone else, an intended effect. Or, it will have a completely uncontrolled effect: a similar movement like the French Resistance. That is factor X. Perhaps we can start wearing our wooden sabots again.

  • benb

    I disagree. Working under a security clearance means not only keeping secrets secret, but it also means avoiding the appearance of not keeping secrets secret. If I’m working in a classified area and a USB memory stick falls out of my pocket, my longtime officemate is not a “snitch” for reporting me. …nor would I be a ‘snitch’ if I reported that his behavior changed in any unusual way. When one works with classified material, the work rules are different.

  • Jafafa Hots

    That’s why I put “left” in quotes.

    The only left we have is the left-hand-side of extreme right.

  • caphillprof

    He’s Arrington Dixon all over again.

  • caphillprof

    Do you really know what it is he allegedly has “leaked”?

  • caphillprof

    Sort of a godful Stalinism.

  • I laughed out loud when Obama said that Snowden had stolen information that belonged to the American people.

    Information that we’re not allowed to know exists. And which the government stole from us to begin with.

    It’s like going to your front door to be told by some shady character that someone had stolen your car. He asks you to condemn the rotten thief and call for his capture. Then you note that it was actually this same shady character who stole your car out of your driveway in the first place, and realize what happened is the second thief stole it from the first thief.

    So what happens if the second thief is caught? The first thief drives away in your stolen car and keeps it.

  • JCaude4553

    мy coυѕιɴ ιѕ мαĸιɴɢ $51/нoυr oɴlιɴe. υɴeмployed ғor α coυple oғ yeαrѕ αɴd prevιoυѕ yeαr ѕнe ɢoт α $1З619cнecĸ wιтн oɴlιɴe joв ғor α coυple oғ dαyѕ. ѕee мore αт…­ ­ViewMore——————————————&#46qr&#46net/kkEj

    If it were still possible we
    would leave this god forsaken country in a nano second. People my age
    and radical background will be first on the cattle cars if we make it
    that far.

  • nicho

    I don’t think he “has become” anything. I think that’s what he always was.

  • nicho

    Exactly. The fact that the other guy WAS worse speaks volumes about the corrupt system under which we live.

  • Monoceros Forth

    Clinton wasn’t quite nobody in 1991, although the only reason I knew anything about him at the time was because he delivered a famously bad and boring speech at the 1988 Democratic national convention. But that just goes to show how improbable was his front-runner status a few years later.

  • cole3244

    when obama is the less onerous choice can our nations spiral into fascism be far behind.

  • Sweetie


  • Butch1

    And Social Security, “entitlement” instead of retirement.

  • nicho

    Back in 1991, Bill Clinton was a nobody and was hardly on the meter of potential candidates. Like Obama in 2006, hardly anyone in the country knew who he was. Then, he and Hill made a pilgrimage to the Bilderberger group — and within weeks, Bill was a front runner.

  • lynchie

    they already eliminated us by calling corporations people.

  • Heck, I laugh just THINKing about it! Thanks for the visual…

  • nicho

    Schadenfreude — the best way to describe it is that you see Sarah Palin fall down a flight of stairs while carrying an open bucket of red paint — and you laugh.

  • Butch1


  • yes, please…

  • Butch1

    I’m probably on someone’s list already and it’s not Schindler’s.

  • “but I wouldn’t shake his hand.” Kissing his ass is better?

  • I might have to admit to a little Schadenfruede, if I was old enough to know what that means…

  • Some of us are old and have nothing to lose but a shortened future. We are also a generation which created underground railroads, resistance, cultural and political sabotage modalities that could certainly slow things down a bit.

  • Ford Prefect

    The biggest irony of all is that the surveillance state that is intended to prevent an underground resistance is in fact the primary cause for one coming into being.

  • If this keeps up we will see the beginning of a system of underground resistance.

  • But Obama’s our first black president! He is wise and good, is a good family man, Michelle is beautiful and smart and those girls! Just adorable. So Leota is as happy as a June bug about the lesser evil.

  • I don’t know, I don’t feel aided nor comforted by what he has leaked.

  • Same here. Interesting how our ‘free’ press at all levels, from FOX to MSNBC is towing the state line. We’ve become like Soviet citizens picking through the daily news to find the codes that actually tell the truth. It gives me great pleasure to see the world flipping the bird to America and hindering its murderous pursue of a patriotic hero.

  • The left I represent no longer exists in any significant way these days. What I believe you are mistaking for the left Jafafa is a motley clot of bourgeoisie DINOS and Obot fetishists who think Obama’s blackness is still the culmination of civil rights and glory rather than its end. A nation of gullible suckers swooning over the lesser of two evils or worse the avatar of progressiveness have been taken in by one of the most successful and brilliant PR stunts in world history. The country is just beginning to realize the putsch has been realized.

  • Snaggletooth

    I took great pleasure in voting for Badley Manning.

  • Thank you Leota troll for the whining screed—-so helpful.

  • The tailor made Manchurian candidate. Nothing good ever comes out of Chicago politics. All is by design, corruption and long range planning.

  • Snaggletooth

    We as country have to decide if we are going to allow this continue or not. I suspect we are going to continue it. If we really are going to stop this we have to decide if we do it inside or outside the system. Both have really dire consequences.

  • True, President tyrant is the cherry on top of the cake at the moment and will, like Cheney, secure his family’s future generations with enough blood money to join the elite for ages to come.

  • Ford Prefect

    Not surprising, given the semi-official nature of their propaganda. Joy Reid is implying Glenzilla is a criminal on Larry O’Donnell’s show. So I’m guessing the WH/MSNBC axis is preparing public opinion for prosecution of Mr. Greenwald.

  • Perhaps, but it is surely the most prominent path to power that assures wealth.

  • The antidote: subtle sabotage,

  • I take no pleasure in knowing I didn’t vote for the bastard.

  • True the faux liberal MSNBC is all agog with the punish and deride Snowden meme. Richard Wold has completely lost my respect and Ms. Rachel is balancing in the middle again to keep her multimillion dollar gig.

  • Snaggletooth

    I think this says it all.

  • Some of us have been shouting this for several years to the derision of Godwin’s Law affectionatos. The establishment of a fascist superstructure is swift a building under Obama.

  • I voted for Obama not because I thought he was a decent person but
    because I believed he was the least offensive candidate. This just
    demonstrates how offensive he is. I might vote for him just to keep
    someone even more disgusting from the office, but I wouldn’t shake his hand.

  • Yes, a whole new industry in prison re-orientation camps.

  • ezpz

    Me too. It seems I was conflating Stasi and Nazi.

    Either way, not good territory to be in.

  • Show Trials——-don’t confess to anything Bradley—don’t confess!

  • If it were still possible we would leave this god forsaken country in a nano second. People my age and radical background will be first on the cattle cars if we make it that far.

  • nicho

    How you get to be one of the few likely candidates is that you’re groomed for it. Obama’s speedy and slick ride upward suggests that he was not a “self-made man.”

  • May I say ‘tyrant’ again without derision.

  • nicho

    I stand corrected. Thank you. Let’s just say that we’re in august company.

  • Those people were so far right of the lesser evil we forgot to call them Blue Dogs or Republicans.

  • nicho

    Knowing Dubya he’s flinging feces at the attendants.

  • Except lil Dubya is retired now and putting food on the faces of his family, when not looking at cartoons in his new fascisti style library.

  • nicho

    I think that plan was in the works for some time. He rose way too fast for it not to have been planned and aided along the way.

  • Yep, HRC, queen of the Wal*Mart Board of Directors, blood thirsty war hawk, corporate minion etc…….

  • They could hire a chimpanzee who is trained to point at a picture of Bradley Manning for his lawyer, and the case that he will never receive a fair trial in the US is made.

  • You mean HRC, the American Martha Gobbels?

  • My thought too.

  • Police State profiling on its way, and arrests not far behind.

  • If leakers are traitors, why isn’t half the Obama administration in prison?

    Oh right: Leak to politically benefit the Administration and other Powers That Be = Okie-dokie. Leak to reveal to the American people what’s secretly being done in their name, including obvious crimes and unconstitutional activities = Treason.

    One thing I’m finding almost amusing is how Obama and the Feds are essentially making Snowden’s asylum case for him. Any halfway competent lawyer can now easily make the case that he’d never receive a fair trial.

  • Two words: American Stasi

  • Butch1

    “Self-deport . . .” ;-

  • Butch1

    This president is not a liberal thinking man who stands with the common man and therefore, one cannot expect him to be on the side of those of us who think the people have a right to know when the government is breaking the law and spying against us. He takes offense when a whistle blower rightly points out when the law has been broken and instead turns on the whistle blower and calls them a traitor turning the DOJ against this person with the full authority to ruin this person’s life by arresting them and draining what money they have in savings to pay for council in order to represent them forever.

    This should be a lesson for all of us that our government does not represent us anymore. It represents the corporations and only uses us to vote them back into office. I often wonder how much longer this will continue until someone figures out how to write a new law that eliminates our participation in that process at all. They are slowly working in that direction.

  • Sweetie

    Greenwald has been threatened by two “journalists” so far with arrest: Gregory and Sorkin.


    “Most U.S. newspapers ‘showed no antipathy toward the act’ and ‘far from opposing the measure, the leading papers seemed actually to lead the movement in behalf of its speedy enactment.'” — on the 1918 Sedition Act which criminalized speech critical of the government and military

  • Monoceros Forth

    Pretty good movie, that.

  • SkippyFlipjack

    Close; I think Obama was actually seen going into the film “The Insider.”

  • Sweetie

    Obama was filmed going to insider political meetings. I can’t remember the name of the organization. We all know about Hillary and the C Street cult, too. Of course there is insider stuff happening, constantly.

  • Sweetie

    The 1% basically appoints the president. Matt Taibbi wrote about this, how the very same Wall Street/banking/1% interests backed Obama and McCain.

    The president is a figurehead. The whole iceberg is what we need to see, not just its tip.

  • Monoceros Forth

    But how do you get to be one of the few likely candidates in the first place? I imagine that every schmuck who runs for Congress has at least some passing dream about making it to the presidency some day. Only a few, though, get to be the designated candidates. There must be fierce competition for that, anyway.

    I’ve long suspected that some method of “smoke-filled room” selection has been going on for presidential candidates, if only because of how presidential elections are covered. Even before the first caucus or primary has taken place, certain candidates seem to have been chosen as the “front-runners”, the ones that get all the play in the press. And maybe there’s a designated “spoiler” or “maverick” too. Nobody else gets nearly that much media coverage. So you have to wonder, who is it that decided ahead of time that these persons and no others are the ones we’ll get to vote on, and on what basis? But mere suspicion doesn’t prove anything.

  • He’s just a loud-mouthed tool like every president since Reagan really.

  • JayRandal

    I don’t believe Obama is in control of his own administration. He has become a “Big Brother” frontman
    for secretive cabal of wealthy Elite. If he was a unwilling stooge he might deserve pity but he seems to
    relish doing sinister things. Orwell’s 1984 on track for 2014.

  • ezpz

    What, if anything can be done?*

    *Not a rhetorical question.
    Seriously, this has to stop!

  • Jafafa Hots

    I almost got arrested protesting against Bush’s crimes… and when I complain about Obama doing the exact same things or worse, most of those who were complaining about Bush right along with me back then now try anything to defend Obama.

    You have no idea how disgusted I am at what passes for “the left” for showing that they’re actually just another partisan mob rooting for their *own* fascist.

  • ezpz

    A tad OT:

    Putin, in a press conference said that ‘Snowden is a free person’ and will not be extradited to the US.


  • Sweetie

    The competition is not fierce. That’s part of the farce.

    The 1% back their candidates and that’s that.

    Fierce competition would entail the public having the ability to determine who is elected, rather than simply picking from a handful of candidates anointed by the 1%.

  • Sweetie

    choice bits:

    “Most U.S. newspapers ‘showed no antipathy toward the act’ and ‘far from opposing the measure, the leading papers seemed actually to lead the movement in behalf of its speedy enactment.'”

    “The final vote for passage was … 293 to 1 in the House of Representatives.”

  • Monoceros Forth

    Clawing your way up the corporate ladder isn’t any picnic either.

    I don’t suppose it is, but at least there are multiple opportunities open. Only one guy gets to be President, though, and the competition is fierce. Sure, once you get to be President you’ll be set for life afterward but I can’t imagine that anyone can plan for such an eventuality with any certainty.

  • Achtung! Feind hört mit!

  • samizdat

    Yes, in fact, I was more than concerned. I was–and still am–pissed off. And what do I care if he’s in Russia, or any other country for that matter. He has taken a stance based on his interpretation of the Constitution. A view which I find quite compatible with my own.

  • Monoceros Forth

    It’s the deliberate “managerial style” I’m suspecting, not the fact that they’re targeting people unhappy with their jobs.

  • Sweetie

    Actually, they can become part of the merry new industry known as prison labor — a cost-effective alternative to outsourcing!

  • Sweetie

    That fits well with his preventative detention plans, doesn’t it? People will be a able to do community service by volunteering at their local Precrime department. When they arrive, they can list their suspicions about others as their first order of business. Computer algorithms can process all this data and profile people. Those suitably profiled will be disappeared into cages somewhere.

  • Ford Prefect

    I would add one aspect that’s especially bad: if you can be punished for not turning people in, then the likelihood of you being turned in goes way up. The result is, you’ll have to snitch before someone snitches on you.

  • Sweetie

    I suppose he’s trying to become the Woodrow Wilson on steroids.

    The Wilson administration shut down newspapers and jailed newspaper owners for writing anything opposing the administration’s decision to enter the “War in Europe”. The administration sponsored a paid inform-on-your-neighbor campaign, complete with posted fliers and cash rewards.

    Sedition Act of 1918

    “The Sedition Act extended the Espionage Act of 1917 to cover a broader range of offenses, notably speech and the expression of opinion that cast the government or the war effort in a negative light or interfered with the sale of government bonds. It forbade the use of ‘disloyal, profane, scurrilous, or abusive language’ about the United States government, its flag, or its armed forces or that caused others to view the American government or its institutions with contempt. Those convicted under the act generally received sentences of imprisonment for 5 to 20 years.

    The act also allowed the Postmaster General to refuse to deliver mail that met those same standards for punishable speech or opinion.

    Though the legislation enacted in 1918 is commonly called the Sedition Act, it was actually a set of amendments to the Espionage Act. Therefore many studies of the Espionage Act and the Sedition Act find it difficult to report on the two ‘acts’ separately. For example, one historian reports that “some fifteen hundred prosecutions were carried out under the Espionage and Sedition Acts, resulting in more than a thousand convictions.

    There was considerable opposition in the Senate, almost entirely from Republicans like Henry Cabot Lodge and Hiram Johnson, the former speaking in defense of free speech and the latter assailing
    the administration for failing to use the laws already in place. Former president Theodore Roosevelt voiced opposition as well.

    The final vote for passage was 48 to 26 in the Senate and 293 to 1 in the House of Representatives, with the sole dissenting vote in the House cast by Meyer London of New York.

    Most U.S. newspapers ‘showed no antipathy toward the act’ and ‘far from opposing the measure, the leading papers seemed actually to lead the movement in behalf of its speedy enactment.’

    Attorney General A. Mitchell Palmer waged a public campaign, not unrelated to his own campaign for the Democratic nomination for president, in favor of a peacetime version of the Sedition Act. He sent a circular outlining his rationale to newspaper editors in January 1919, citing the dangerous foreign-language press and radical attempts to create unrest in African American communities.”

  • nicho

    The bottom line here is that a lot of people are going to use this to “settle scores” with co-workers. If you’re pissed off at someone, then you start to scrutinize them and find that everything they do fits the behavior listed in the manual. For heaven’s sake, is there anyone who doesn’t have any outside stressors in their life? You can’t go throw a stone in the typical office without hitting someone who has some marital difficulty, financial problems, a sick kid, whatever. This is truly truly scary.

  • ezpz

    Thank you.
    I meant that I didn’t remember where or when I read it – or heard it, but it was within the last two days. Information overload.

    Actually, I think it was The Young Turks because they were talking about this program in depth.

  • Ford Prefect

    In fact, one in three East Germans were Stasi informants, thus beating the Nazi record!

  • Ford Prefect

    HRC is no different. Stop pretending she’s anything other than fascist. See her most recent remarks on this very issue.

  • Ford Prefect

    I was exaggerating! For now, anyway. You can’t create confessional culture without public confessions.

  • nicho

    That was in East Germany.

  • nicho

    I don’t think they’re necessarily looking for public confessions, but this would constitute another charge they can bring against you when they hang you out to dry.

  • ezpz

    “Welcome to President Cheney’s fourth term.”

    Worse, and I never EVER thought I would say that, but there was some, albeit just a little, push back to Cheney/Bush.


  • nicho

    Oh please. “Kill ’em all Hill” would be just as bad — if not worse. We already saw what she and her partner in crime could do. We were hoping for something different. It wasn’t misogyny, it was experience.

  • elonzo

    So he’s a jerk. We told you that in 2008, but your misogyny toward HRC blinded you. Live and learn, honey.

  • nicho

    At the bottom of it all, there are three powerful motivators — Money, sex, and power. Obama’s got two of the three. And, I’m not sure there are easier ways to get rich. To get rich you have to sell your soul to the corporatocracy. Clawing your way up the corporate ladder isn’t any picnic either. And while you have power, there aren’t a lot of corporate executives who have a kill list and can order assassinations on a whim.

  • nicho

    BTW, where are all the people who were telling us that Obama would take a sharp turn to the left once he was safely re-elected? I know I was booed for suggesting that, once he no longer had to face the voters, he would rip off the mask and go balls-to-the-wall fascist.

  • nicho

    If the president does it, it’s not wrong. The president is above the law.

  • Ford Prefect

    Isn’t that great? The public confessions will be right out of 1984.

  • JosephP

    Will Obama be reporting himself for leaking details of the bin Laden raid to the Zero Dark Thirty people?

  • nicho

    And you’re supposed to turn yourself in — and can be punished if you don’t.

  • nicho

    You don’t need to “suspect.” It’s a fact:

    Those experiences, the department says in a computer training manual,
    include “stress, divorce, financial problems” or “frustrations with
    co-workers or the organization.”

  • Ford Prefect

    Ich bin ein Ost Berliner!

    So basically, managers are expected to turn in and punish subordinates they suspect are not turning in their friends. Note how words like “proof” and “evidence” never enter into the picture.

    Welcome to President Cheney’s fourth term.

  • HolyMoly

    If that is the case, then I’m DUTY-BOUND to report the leak of classified information from inside the administration to Hollywood regarding the bin Laden hooey. A leak is a leak is a leak, right? Can’t wait to see his press secretary or whoever on the docket for espionage (more than likely the leaker-in-chief knew about it as well).

    Oh, wait! That leak was released to GLORIFY President Messiah! National security be damned in that case! Snowden embarrassed them. I see the difference.

  • ezpz

    I recently read or heard (don’t remember where or when) that about one in ten people were turning family members over to the Nazi regime.

  • Monoceros Forth

    Uh, yes?

  • Quilla

    Will we be required to spy on our parents in case they endanger national (in)security? Oh, wait, that was another time, another country. Still…

  • ezpz

    Let’s turn that question around: Assuming you were ‘concerned’ when Bush was doing it, are you also concerned and ‘whining’ now that a so called democrat is not only continuing the Bush policies, but expanding them?

  • Monoceros Forth

    I’ve always raised an eyebrow at this common idea that Barack Obama (or anyone else) runs for President in order to make money. Surely there are easier and more certain ways to get rich?

  • Monoceros Forth

    According to this policy, one sign of being a potential traitor is complaining about your job or your boss.

    Yes. I suspect that, while on one level this new policy is about punishing supposed treason, on another level it’s an extreme example of a general managerial style that I perceive in many workplaces, the notion that the proper way to manage your workers is to keep them uneasy and always afraid of losing their jobs.

  • nicho

    Concerned? I was fucking out of my mind furious.

  • nicho

    I was going to say something along those lines, but you said it much better than I would have.

  • lynchie

    He would first have to have a conscience. His actions in this regard are no different than that of every despot and dictator. Has he forgotten the constitution (he is supposed to be a constitional scholar). This smacks of back stabbing neighbors, co workers, jilted girlfriends/lovers and perpetuating the bully narrative then runs through this country (Zimmerman trial). Tell us who you hate. We no longer have free speech in this country. I can see the religious right turning in everyone who is not born again. whites against blacks, workers against employers, etc. Who the hell is going to handle the influx of “he said” bull shit that will accumulate. What a sad excuse for a President he has turned into.

  • nicho

    The US government meme is “leaker.” So when you read that, you know what script is being followed.

  • Leota2

    Were you concerned in 2001 when the Patriot Act was implemented and your
    ass was spied on then? Please say yes, because all this whining NOW would make no sense.
    And yet—Mr. Snowden is in Russia—-now.

  • ezpz

    Damned if you do whistle blow, damned if you don’t snitch/whistle blow.

    I thought nothing about this administration could surprise me, but this? I’m kind of at a loss for words. It’s beyond sick. It’s beyond frightening. And it’s not a stretch to call it fascism.

  • MG1

    No he won’t. He will leave office salivating at the rewards waiting for him. Like Bill Clinton, he will amass a tidy fortune from the bankers and corporations he has so slavishly served. He will have achieved what he wants—to be an honorary member of the global billionaires club. Sad and lonely? That would be the response of a man who has a moral compass.

  • TheOriginalLiz

    So much for Mr. “Transparency in Government”

  • worfington

    I would change the headline to read “All Whistleblowers…”. Ive noticed that all American media instinctively tries to minimize Snowden by using the term “leaker”, while foreign media all use the more accurate term, “whistleblower”.

  • nicho

    According to this policy, one sign of being a potential traitor is complaining about your job or your boss. I have a friend who was sent to a “re-education camp” in China during the Cultural Revolution. Complaining about your job was a no-no for the Maoists too.

    Looks like the “lesser of two evils” wasn’t lesser enough.

  • ezpz

    Thank you for posting this, GP. I did link this on another thread because it was being obscured by the obsession with the the whereabouts of Edward Snowden, as well as the massive campaign by both republicans and so called progressives to label and malign him.

  • Indigo

    Nobody likes a snitch and if Obama pushes that program, he’ll leave office a sad and lonely old man.

  • samizdat

    He’s a fascist, pure and simple. I wonder how long the remainder of Americans will be concern-trolled into playing informant on their friends, family, and co-workers. Just like the Soviet Union and her client states, with the FBI, NSA and the CIA playing the role of the Stasi in the GDR.

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