Protester during Obama’s “I can’t close Guantánamo” speech: “You are commander-in-chief”

A Code Pink protester interrupted President Obama repeatedly today during his big “Why I can’t close Guantánamo,” plus Drone Transparency, speech. There’s video below. But first, from the White House Press Office and a pool reporter via email (my emphasis and paragraphing):

White House Press Office wrote:

Remarks are open press but some color from inside the room, including the protester, who interrupted POTUS in the middle of his speech. The crowd–about 300 people– was quiet throughout the speech. Some took notes, some took photos on their smartphones.

Towards the end of POTUS speech, the protester, from Code Pink began screaming. Her name is Medea Benjamin. She has strawberry blond hair and was wearing a black and white dress and blazer on top.

obama-heckled-gitmo-speech

Obama, as the Code Pink protester was yelling.

You are commander in chief. You can close Guantanamo today!” The woman began.

POTUS urged her to let him finish several times. “You should let me finish my sentence,” he said one time. Several security officials gathered around her and let her stay.

“It’s been 11 years!” She said later.

“Let me finish,” Obama said.

Finally, she was escorted out. “I love my country. I love the rule of law… Abide by the rule of law. You’re a constitutional lawyer,” she shouted at POTUS as she was escorted out.

More civil disobedience and disruption by a nation getting tired of getting had? Seems like it to me. Now the video, courtesy of CBS News. There are several versions of this out there; this one seems to be complete.

http://youtu.be/3ui43FWaZ6Y

More comment at BuzzFeed. Note the laughter by the press corps as Obama jokes with them as soon as the woman is escorted out. (Shades of “no WMDs here”? You decide.) Then Obama frames his Gauntánamo-prisoning self as the friend of civil liberties. Nice speech, though at odds with his deeds, clearly. But why this new tone? Where’s the guy with Osama on the point of his spear and hippie-hating in his heart?

Like Clinton during Lewinsky-gate, Obama now needs his base

I could not have said it more clearly than digby and Joan McCarter did on last weekend’s Virtually Speaking Sundays — it’s second-term scandal season, the IRS dust-up has right-wing legs, Fox is all over “Bengazi”, and Obama now needs his base. Joan and digby made their point in regard to why no more benefit cuts push from Obama, and tied it to Clinton’s abandoned plan to privatize Social Security after a certain blue dress failed to get a cleaning.

But the point is general. Watch for Obama to be lavish with base-friendly words so long as Fox holds all these phony scandals up for outrage. If the outrage or outrages start to take hold, as some have, Obama will pivot to suddenly liking the left, just as he does during campaign season. In my opinion — and also McCarter’s and digby’s — the pivot has already started.

My response? He’s still Obama, and we have way too much history with him. Don’t . be . fooled.

Posted for your amusement and his discomfort. After all, she’s right. Despite his framing, he really can close the place anytime he has the courage or the will to do so.

GP

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  • http://poodyheads.wordpress.com/ zorbear

    And do you have a union suit to match?

  • NorthAlabama

    no projection here – it’s your belief that skin color determines where contries defend themselves. i just pointed out the argument holds no water.

  • ezpz

    Project much? Your inner (and outer) bigotry is on full display from your comments on this thread alone.

  • NorthAlabama

    if it wasn’t so sad, it would be funny. you see alabama, and you automatically deduce someone shares the sentiments of a group of people who lived here 150 years ago? you don’t know where i was born, where i have lived, or where i have traveled. based on personal experience, there are good and bad people everywhere, and it has nothing to do with where they live.

    you sound just like the tea party who tosses out the word hitler every chance they get. never owned a flag other than the usa, and proud to fly it any chance i get.

  • NorthAlabama

    your welcome! happy to point out a bigoted comment, whenever it see one.

  • ezpz

    Thank you.

  • NorthAlabama

    an expert opinion, coming from you!

  • ezpz

    You seem to know a thing or two about having “very narrow and uneducated view”.

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    I am a union man.

  • NorthAlabama

    if you attribute war only to skin color or heritage, you obviously haven’t cracked a history book lately. attacks are being aimed back at those who struck us, in our defense. suggesting differently comes from a very narrow and uneducated view of why these attacks happened in the first place.

  • ezpz

    You’re right in asking the rhetorical question about skin color and geographical location. It SHOULDN’T have anything to do with it, but it does.

    No, *I’m* not the bigot, but I don’t hear about any drones or invasions or occupations in countries with mostly caucasian populations.

  • NorthAlabama

    again, how do you know they were innocent? and what does skin color or geographical location have to do with guilt or innocence – are you a bigot? and why don’t you trust those dedicated to protecting our country – are you a conspiracy theorist?

  • ezpz

    I know, right? lol

  • ezpz

    Again, how do you know they were guilty? And guilty of what? Having brown skin and living in a country where most people have brown skin?

  • NorthAlabama

    if you think war is like a disney movie, move to hollywood. i’m not going away or tying any yellow ribbons. i know that people fighting for this country have children, too, and aren’t evil people. if you prefer the soviet union, move there instead – we’ll all be better off.

  • http://poodyheads.wordpress.com/ zorbear

    If only everybody felt that way…
    :-(

  • http://poodyheads.wordpress.com/ zorbear

    You keep talkin’ like dat and Tejas will stay in the union just to spite you!

    :-D

  • http://poodyheads.wordpress.com/ zorbear

    Darned right! We need to do something about all those people standing around next to innocent bystanders while being targeted. That’s too much power to have. I say we nuke’em…

    As soon as I move over there….

    Okay — fire away!

    ;-)

  • lynchie

    but in a lot of cases the decisions aren’t made with all the information. The bounties paid encouraged people to rat out people they didn’t like. This is how the Soviet Union did it’s work. Neighbors turning in neighbors. The Shiites turning in Kurds.That is not based on anything. Why haven’t they been tried and convicted–there is no evidence against them, You have faith in the people making decisions have you not seen enough to question there judgement. Abu Grahab comes to mind, body counts in Vietnam (moving dead bodies to raise the count as a measure of success). WMD, trailers with biologics, the war will pay for itself, missing $10 billion, mission accomplished, ignoring warnings of a strike by Bin Laden. Go away, you sound like the people who appeased ever dictator because you felt if you agreed he wouldn’t come for you. Well you are wrong if you don’t question your leaders and keep them honest you are part of the problem. You totally trust them to decide the fate of your children or like i suspect you keep your kids home and let someone else fight in your name and you put a yellow ribbon on a tree and send your thoughts and prayers but little else.

  • JayRandal

    So-called treaty with Cuba is null and voided. US should shut-down GITMO base and return
    the land holding to Cuba. US should strip the base of anything of value shipping stuff back to
    mainland states. Demolish the buildings and port facilities then depart.

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    Like++++++

  • NorthAlabama

    when has a jury ever been required following a confession of guilt? if manning pleads not guilty after confessing, it’ll be interesting to see if the confession is presented as evidence.

  • Naja pallida

    Theoretically, it should be only by action of the Senate that a treaty can be set aside once ratified, but there are at least two precedents: George. W. Bush unilaterally decided to withdraw from the 30-year old Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty with Russia. And Jimmy Carter withdrew from the Sino-American Defense Treaty with China. In Carter’s case, Barry Goldwater tried to sue on Constitutional grounds, but the Supreme Court dismissed the case, stating that it was a matter of politics, not the judiciary. So the Constitutional question remains open… but with Bush making a second precedent, without Congress making any effort to fight it, that makes it a viable course of action to at leat attempt, if he was really serious about ending the travesty that is our foreign-soil gulag. Of course, that wouldn’t stop Republicans from crying about it.

  • http://www.rebeccamorn.com/mind BeccaM

    I’m nowhere near as trusting as you.

  • NorthAlabama

    does the president have the authority to unsign a treaty? even if it’s done (as with the previous president), without approval, at minimum, of the senate, is it legal or constitutionally sound? and what are the potential ramifications to other treaties?

  • NorthAlabama

    when has “innocence until proven guilty in a court” played a role warfare?

    why are you convinced of ignorance in affiliations? when have trials been held on the battlefield?

    yes, it is tyrannical power. paid for by our tax dollars through the federal budget, with funds budgeted by the house of representatives, for whom we voted into office. and i believe in our country’s ability to restrain the use of this force to the goal of security for our way of life.

  • BloggerDave

    NO ONE is trying on either side…

  • http://www.rebeccamorn.com/mind BeccaM

    America used to be a country that believed in “innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.”

    Now you can be killed for unknowingly standing next to someone an unnamed administration official has targeted for death, without public evidence and without a trial.

    No one should have that kind of tyrannical power.

  • NorthAlabama

    with all due respect, i am aware our country offered bounties, that enemies turned in adversaries, and were paid to do so. are you suggesting that each and every time this happened, it ended with a drone strike?

    i am convinced the decision of whether or not to launch a fatal attack is not made flippantly, based solely on one source of information, especially if it is apparent there may be ulterior motives, such as financial gain.

    i have faith in the men and women placed with the responsibility of making these decisions, that they are acting in the country’s best interests, are painfully aware of the consequences of their decisions, and that they take time to conscientiously consider every alternative very carefully.

    the president’s decision to voluntarily release the power granted by congress is unprecedented, and i support his decision. i also support those who made these difficult decisions in an effort to protect our interests and our way of life.

  • Naja pallida

    George W. Bush, and Congress acquiescing by lack of complaint or concern, set the precedent that the President has the authority to unilaterally withdraw the country from a treaty. Even the Supreme Court has refused to rule on such a thing. Thus, I propose, that President Obama immediately withdraw us from the Cuban-American Treaty of 1903 and all associated treaties of relations with Cuba. This would require us to withdraw all persons and materiele from Guantanamo, immediately, and return the occupied territory to Cuba. If he needs some reasons to justify his choice to withdraw from the treaty he could always cite that the government of Cuba does not recognize the treaty, and considers our occupation of their territory to be illegal under international law. And on top of that, we have violated the treaty by creating the detention facility there in the first place.

    The only reason why Obama has not closed Guantanamo is because he doesn’t really want to.

  • GaiusPublius

    Are you not aware? There was a bounty out. They were turned into the US by their enemies, warlords and such, who got paid for their bodies. Imagine your son or daughter in foreign prison forever because their enemies got paid for them. Pls, do NOT drink the water of “what everyone knows”.

    GP

  • Bill_Perdue

    The monstrous murder of civilians on 9-11 was caused by US support for the terrorist thugs of the IDf, who routinely engage in ethnic cleansing and enforce a racist apartheid system to enrich colonial settlers at the expense of Palestinian workers.

    It was caused in other words, by the racist policies of every president since and including Truman.

  • Bill_Perdue

    Once again, the traitors are in the WH and Congress.

  • Bill_Perdue

    The traitors are in the WH and Congress.

  • Bill_Perdue

    NorthAlabama sanctions murders.

    Our enemies are in the White House and Congress.

  • ezpz

    Exactly.

  • ezpz

    Yes indeed, it was more than solitary that he was forced to endure. Much more.

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    You would know about smaller minds. closed to fact, closed to evidence, closed to moral and ethical standards of law, and certainly closed to critique of authoritarian crimes. “based on where i live” based on where you live I deduce that the same ignorance which was part of the sentiments that led to your ‘areas’ participation in the Civil War of Southern Treason. How did that authoritarianism go for you? Or do you still fly that Confederate flag of treason on your front porch?

  • NorthAlabama

    i wasn’t aware of the requirement to have “experience on the ground with the actualities of war” in order to have an opinion or to speak it.

    once again, what war crime? are you the judge and jury? isn’t that what you claim happened to manning? why is it ok for the president, and not ok for manning?

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    “I trust our leaders to defend our country to the best of their ability.” That sure worked for Bush didn’t it: Ignored warnings about imminent attack ( Rice called it old history) and 9/11 happened; lied us into a losing war in which nearly a million civilians were killed; the list goes on. My guess is that you don’t have a clue or any experience on the ground with the actualities of war and abrogate any responsibilities for the horrors and war crimes committed by some misplaced and disturbed idealism.

  • NorthAlabama

    how do you know there was torture during or prior to confession, or there was any torture at all?

  • NorthAlabama

    i attribute the comment to a freudian slip based on knowledge of a confession during questioning.

  • NorthAlabama

    wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, and wrong. i just have little patience for confessed traitors to our country.

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    He confessed (under torture) to exposing war crimes, which is his duty under military law.

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    Good point, when a president gets away with saying someone is guilty even before a trial, a hearing, or jury, all charges should be immediately dismissed for extreme prejudice. Over 250,000 rapes have committed in the armed forces and Mr. CiC remained mute until forced to say something recently—-didn’t see any pronouncements of ‘guilty’ there.

  • NorthAlabama

    how do you know they were civilians?

  • NorthAlabama

    i’m sorry, did i miss a trial and conviction of a war crime, or were you acting like the juror you accused me of behaving like earlier?

  • NorthAlabama

    how do you know they were innocent?

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    I only know you by your comments and have established you as one subject to respect for authoritarianism, probably the military, police or clergy.

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    I pay attention to authority and never cease questioning, particularly when innocents die.

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    Your sarcasm about war crimes does you no justice.

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    When that line is crossed, a Dresden or Hiroshima happens. Collateral war on civilians is barbaric.

  • NorthAlabama

    hardly. i am genuine in my belief that nowhere is it stated that war crimes are to be reported by leaking classified information. there is a chain of command in the military, and if you don’t want to be branded a traitor, it’s best to follow.

  • NorthAlabama

    the hobgoblin of smaller minds – name calling based on where i live. the last resort of a feeble argument.

  • NorthAlabama

    why is a jury needed with a confession of guilt?

  • NorthAlabama

    it’s not indiffernece, please check your dictionary or thesauras. it’s a realization that when “war” is waged, deaths are generally the outcome. as i said before, i would prefer there was never another war or any deaths due to fighting our enemies. i always prefer peace over war.

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    You are being fatuous and disingenuous. You know perfectly well that Manning was obligated by military law to report war crimes.

  • NorthAlabama

    you really don’t know me well enough to make that assumption. and my fetishes have nothing to do with flat lines. i don’t even like to ponder on how i would have reacted if placed in that terrible situation.

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    It was considerably more than solitary, which you know. I call it torture—-particularly without charges. Further, I suspect your caviler attitude with habeaus corpus, rule of law and disdain for civil rights are in fact borderline treasonous. But then you come form Alabama, where such thinking once fomented the Civil War of Southern Treason.

  • NorthAlabama

    i suspect drones haven’t been recommended as the best method for action on intelligence in saudia arabia, or it was decided as a less productive option. the saudi government has been known to cooperate with our country in regards to terrorist activities in their county, based on the relationship maintained between our two countries, but i don’t know.

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    “i suspect the guilt was known way ahead of the court records.” I hope a vigilantist like you never sits on a jury.

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    Your flat line fetish is quite clear. You are the kind, who, at Nurenburg, would whine that it was the law of the land. I was just doing my duty.

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    “i have no ethical or moral issues with what happened.” One American’s indifference to murder is another’s war crime. I feel sorry for you.

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    Where are the drones in Saudi Arabia, a country which breeds terrorists like rabbits?

  • NorthAlabama

    we don’t know, and we may never establish guilt. that’s sometimes how it is. intelligence is received, validity is established to the best of the abilities of those in charge, decisions are made on the response, and action is taken.

    if we could ask them nicely to pretty please wait to be arrested, and only tell us the truth about what we suspect, it would be a lot easier.

  • Monoceros Forth

    OK then. How do you know and how did they establish that the targets were in fact terrorists?

  • NorthAlabama

    i never claimed that the deaths were not unfortunate and regrettable. defending our country with weapons sometimes leads to adverse consequences.

    it would be best if there were never another war, all fighting stopped, and no one was ever killed again. until then, we do the best we can, morally and ethically. i have no ethical or moral issues with what happened.

  • condew

    “Still no chained CPI”.
    Not for lack of trying.

  • NorthAlabama

    so, if someone confesses, they aren’t guilty until a court says so? i’d say guilt is established once it’s admitted. at that point, the court procedings simply establish the record. no blanket needed, it’s comfortable out.

  • NorthAlabama

    once again, the military is in charge of the detention of traitors who confess while in the military. if the courts or congress would like to debate or weigh in on current methods of dentention, there’s no stopping it from happening. until then, i have no problem with the following of current guidelines.

  • lynchie

    Oh the chicken and egg answer that is why we have courts to establish innocence or guilt. ass blanket

  • lynchie

    well those terrorists were from Saudi Arabia. No he needs congress to declare war and who gave him the power of life and death and are you ok with it.
    What if it was your kid or your wedding party.

  • ezpz

    Y’know, there’s an old Eastern saying that goes something like this:

    ‘What we don’t learn from enlightened reason, we will learn from pain.’

    If you’ve never been in solitary, don’t presume to know it’s not torture, and I tell you this because I don’t wish you pain.

  • NorthAlabama

    i trust our leaders to defend our country to the best of their ability. congress was briefed on the drone strikes. if there had been any questions, the opportunity was available for them to be asked and answered.

    i’m not going to play monday morning quarterback and second guess choices made based on information i will never have. if congress or the courts want to weigh in, they can, that’s the way our government is designed.

  • ezpz

    “…i suspect the guilt was known way ahead of the court records…”

    You “suspect” based on what? Again, your president’s word and your blind loyalty?

    “… if it isn’t reported on a blog…”

    Jonathan Turley, whose link I posted above, is a very smart, and unlike the president, a REAL constitutional lawyer. Go read his “blog” – you might learn a thing or two.

    And as karmanot said, go to FDL and you’ll quickly see the chronology. Well, in your case, maybe not so quickly, but still, it might do you some good to get the facts before posting about what you “suspect” based on nothing.

  • NorthAlabama

  • NorthAlabama

    correction – unholy.

  • NorthAlabama

    i never said they were. the targets were terrorists. the victims were obviously close enough to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.

  • NorthAlabama

    some foreign country already targeted the country – it was called 9/11.

    and if you just learned that one of the responsibilities of the president is life and death decisions in defense of our country, you are way too far behind to discuss this any further. don’t go all glenn beck on me now.

  • samizdat

    Holy F***!

  • samizdat

    Question: How do you, and how did they know (or establish) that these people were terrorists?

  • NorthAlabama

    if traitors are placed in solitary, and you want to call it torture, so be it.

  • lynchie

    so when some foreign country gets their version of drones and decides to target someone in the u.s. that would be ok because the foreign country decided the american was a terrorist. We have to stop just killing people, just deciding you live, you die because I’m president. We base that decision on what? On intelligence, the same folks who had WMD in Iraq, who said there was yellow cake, trucks with biological labs, aluminum tubes all proved to be wrong. The lied and there was no accountability.

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    If you want the facts go over to FDL and catch Jane’s history of the Manning affair.I My guess is that your blind patriotic vigilantism will refuse to discern what is real to you from what is true to critical thinking. You do know that Manning was tortured for a year, while never being charged.

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    -0-

  • http://www.rebeccamorn.com/mind BeccaM

    The previous Commander-in-Chief was the one who opened the Gitmo Gulag in the first place and, contrary to the Geneva Conventions, began transferring POWs and foreign civilians (whether non-uniformed insurgents or hapless innocents turned in for bounty payments) to be incarcerated there essentially forever, without charges or hope for repatriation. Dubya said (or rather his lawyers said) the AUMF gave this authority to the president, and besides Gitmo was a U.S. base not on U.S. territorial soil.

    While Congress did forbid the transfer of those same prisoners to the U.S. mainland for trials or continued non-judicial imprisonment, they did subsequently give the C-in-C blanket authority to release or transfer individual prisoners back to their home countries or a country willing to take them.

    Despite there being a bunch of Gitmo prisoners who’ve been cleared of all wrongdoing, the current administration has not once exercised this release/transfer authority. Moreover, the same authority asserted by the last president to create the Gitmo Gulag could just as easily be cited to shut it down.

    What I find interesting is how so much of the time, Obama will say the right thing. (Not on drones, IMHO, but a lot of other stuff.) But then he follows it up by essentially saying his hands are tied, so sorry, can’t actually do anything about it — even though this is often not true at all. He does have the authority to release the prisoners. With or without those sham tribunal trials.

    He also has the authority not to target whistleblowers and leakers for special prosecution. He could have suspended DADT discharges on day 1 of his first term — the law actually said the C-in-C had national security authority to do so if need be. He could have signed the Executive Order to bar anti-gay discrimination by federal contractors. He could have found some way within the law to stop separating binational gay and lesbian couples. It is within his power to direct the FDA to reschedule marijuana as a medicine with legitimate medical uses. And so on.

    Oddly enough, he used to say he had no choice but to have his DOJ defend DOMA. Most of us knew that wasn’t true — and eventually, probably prompted by electoral pressures, Obama finally relented.

    Anyway, it’s just frustrating and puzzling both how often Obama invokes, “I can’t, my hands are tied” — when the real reason is he doesn’t want to and won’t.

  • NorthAlabama

    duh, first of all, were you there during quesitoning for the confession? or are you simply quoting news reports of court procedings?

    secondly, well, it seems, oh why bother, basically, if it isn’t reported on a blog, you won’t be strong enough to intelligently read or pointed enough to comprehend.

  • ezpz

    Uh, first of all, what you’re calling a confession came long after the president proclaimed his guilt.

    Secondly, well, it seems intelligence and basic reading comprehension are not your strong points.

  • Butch1

    This republican is not going to do anything to piss of Wall Street or the Koch Brothers.

  • NorthAlabama

    how do we know they weren’t “known terrorists”? because the president says so. the same president that is in charge of knowing bradley manning has confessed to leaking classified info – that’s how he know’s guilt, the confession.

  • Butch1

    When you’re in JSAC you stay safely away from harm’s way.

  • Butch1

    He’s lost that outer charm once you know what he’s about.

  • NorthAlabama

    repeat: old enough to know better

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    What about unitary presidency, war powers and Commander in Chief have you missed Einstein?

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    It pisses me off too MM.

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    Or allow poseurs like Lindsey Graham wear the pretty uniforms and play soldier.

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    An inner Richard Nixon and the outer charm of Daniel Webster.

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    LIKE+++++

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    Repeat: Innocent 16yr old boy from California. He was hanging out with family members.

  • ezpz

    How do we know they were “known terrorists”? Because the president says so? The same president who declared Bradley Manning guilty of a crime that he had not even been tried for yet, not to mention that charges were still pending…

    http://jonathanturley.org/2011/04/26/guilt-by-proclamation-obama-violates-federal-rules-by-declaring-bradley-manning-guilty/

    Back to these ‘known terrorists’ as you say, how can they know if there were no charges, no indictment, no trial, nothing? Just a drone.

    Do you know what they mean by signature strikes? Look it up.

    It’s the opposite of innocent till proven guilty. It redefines the words “terrorism” and “imminent threat” to mean that all young men of military age are potential terrorists and as such, without any evidence at all, are considered imminent threats. They can be proven innocent – AFTER – they are droned to smithereens.

  • Butch1

    I don’t waste time listening past a few minutes of his blather. All he does is lie and his heart rate doesn’t even elevate when he does it he’s been doing it for so long. You can tell he was angry with her even though his voice was calm and his facial features didn’t give it away. Just look at the burning eyes when he’s mad. They stare down the person with hate in them. I would like to see him behind closed doors where he can let loose. I would bet he can throw tantrums just like the other presidents. The eyes give it away.

  • wtf2

    Where in his 2 campaigns did Obama say he would not prosecute a single banker? Or a single official who authorized torture? When did the former constitutional law professor say he would apply the rule of law only to the 99%.

  • Sweetie

    Pay no attention to the man in front of the curtain.

  • NorthAlabama

    it’s not my decision in regards to innocence or guilt, that’s why congress authorized the president with special power to be able to make these calls.

    one question, though – what exactly were they doing hanging out with known terrorists in yemen or afghanistan or iraq or pakistan or wherever when they were killed? in understanding what was happening between the united states and our enemies, wouldn’t you know that it would be in your best interest to stay as far away as possible from these killers and their preferred hang outs?

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    very like++++++

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    Exactly, the greater player staged his own faux moment of introspection and humanity.

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    If only that simple. He’s a manipulating cynical player.

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    ppppfffftttt

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    Obozo is not going to do anything to upset his lucrative post presidency Clinton gravy train. Like Clinton, it’s all about the money, not honor, justice, morality, or legacy.

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    You go Dresden Mary!

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    Exactly. After too many years of his glib propaganda we can tell when he equivocates or lies—-every time he opens his mouth and speaks.

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    What nauseated me about this particular speech was the part where he says droning is moral, legal and justified (even if 3 out of 4 were innocent citizens and that he will have to live with the mistakes for the rest of his life. What BS, I don’t imagine he gives it much after thought at all. A 16 year old innocent American boy form CA is just a wopsie in the fog of assassination.

  • lynchie

    Yeah level cities that’;s the ticket. you better have a good place to hide because there are more of them than us. i also hope you are prepared to pay for it because i’m not. We went to their country and invaded it. They don’t have uniforms because they woke up one morning and we were bombing the shit out of them. No time to go line up for a uniform. If the situation was reversed you wouldn’t fight for your country? No thought not, you would send someone else to do it.

  • Butch1

    Now, he doesn’t agree with his original statement when campaigning about wanting to close it down. He doesn’t agree with her? That is what she was saying. He cannot close it down? That is not true. He IS the Commander in Chief and he gives orders to the Pentagon and those soldiers and Marines who guard those prisoners. If he says they are not going to be guarding them after a certain date and that he is going to pull those men the Congress better figure out what they are going to do with them and that prison site. They can fight him all they want but he is in charge of the men and women in the service and they had better come to realize that. He CAN close down that base whenever he wants. He doesn’t want to; THAT is the answer.

  • OneGunther

    The same way the Muslim scumbags changed the way war is fought, (No uniforms, flags, hiding behind kids) we adapted and change the way we deal with our enemies. Wussy libs wont let us level complete cities anymore so now we have to capture and keep these dirt bags and whiney libs piss and moan about THAT now!

  • lynchie

    O concerned that investigations into leakers will stifle investigative journalism.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/23/obama-leak-investigations-journalism-chill_n_3327659.html?utm_hp_ref=media

    Guess what O? Your the fucking president so tell them to stop the attacks. Under your watch any whistleblowers have been gone after like a dog with a new bone. Put a halt to it. Get rid of people who are not dedicate to all of us not just the 1%. Ask Holder to go after the banks and wall street who have cost us the 99% billions and made record profits and record bonuses. That would be a good start.

  • Barry McCann

    Just because he has the Authority of Commander in Chief doesn’t mean he has unilateral authority to do stuff like that. That all falls with in Congress, and that is the main reason why Gitmo hasn’t been closed as of yet.

    Remember all those COngress people talking like Al Qaeda members were James Bond when the open trials in New York were raised?

  • Barry McCann

    Really? A non-stop scam job? Do tell.

  • nicho

    Every time he opens his mouth. His whole candidacy and presidency has been an non-stop scam job.

  • Mike Meyer

    DON’T LIKE GITMO??? Stop looking at it. GITMO is here to stay. Its The American Way as long as it isn’t actually in America. Use to be Lady Liberty holding Old Glory was OUR face to the world, now its GITMO&DRONES.

  • JayRandal

    She is correct: Obama has full authority as Commander in Chief to order prison camp closed in Cuba.
    Likewise he should order GITMO base closed there and given back to Cuba. US military can strip base
    of all equipment shipping it back to US mainland. Then dynamite the base buildings and port facilities.

  • ezpz

    YW

  • Ty Morgan

    Where’s the lie?

  • nicho

    Riiiiight. Because Obama would never lie to us — bwhahahahahaha

  • Ty Morgan

    After reading some of these comments, I see the tin foil hat crowd is not exclusive to the right.

  • A_nonymoose

    Courage. Will. Just words on a poster, apparently.

  • samizdat

    Our President Drone-bama is a coward.

  • GaiusPublius

    Great to get these links. Thanks, ezpz. And thanks to everyone in the comments of all these posts for adding, as ezpz is doing now. Enormously helpful.

    GP

  • BloggerDave

    Meanwhile…. Still no Chained CPI…

  • lynchie

    Never for a moment think things aren’t staged. The President has the final say on everything, or at least he should. I think Obama is a control freak that is why he is surrounded by weak people. They knew who she was they have all the faces on file and while they were waiting could easily have gone through the room and found her. It was convenient for O to have a passive response, first amendment my ass, he spied on journalists. He thinks nothing of any amendment and the rule of law and the rest of the bull shit he spouted is all one of his moments. Drone saved lives sounds pretty hollow to the wedding parties, and collateral damage he has done. I guess to be in the 1% you have to be totally devoid of compassion and willing to sacrifice anyone (except the 1%) for your own goals as greedy and unethical as they are. I am sick of Washington and the lying, cheating and screwing of people, the lack of interest of the 99% and the lack of doing anything. The “guns don’t kill people do” horseshit comes to a halt if someone in the media would simply say. “We agree, that is why we want to background check the people buying them”.

  • ezpz

    The spontaneity of this whole thing seems to be in question – not on Ms. Benjamin’s part, but many thought that the president ‘arranged’ (not directly of course) for her to be there so that he could respond, as he did, in such a way as to elicit praise, which it surely did.

    http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2013/05/23-7

    Who doesn’t know who Medea Benjamin is? Yet, somehow, she got an invitation and was ‘allowed’ in.

    https://twitter.com/medeabenjamin/status/337698671636381696/photo/1

  • lynchie

    He let Rahm surround him with Wall Street and the Banks most incompetent. He picked Holder along with others who are also proving to be useless and now O himself has decided to spin everything he touches. He has no interest in closing Gitmo. He has no real interest in furthering gay equality. His only interest in continuing to support the 1% at the expense of the rest of the country. He totally buys into austerity cuts and really hasn’t lived up to any of his promises. Now he wants to turn back to his base, hell no. I normally don’t wear a cup, but having been hammered in the gonads numerous times by this man has made me wear complete body armor. O===check in with the 1% and your GOP buddies I am sure they care.

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