Liberals want more Newtown massacres, says NRA head

The NRA’s madman leader Wayne LaPierre is at it again. In an address to the NRA convention in Houston today, LaPierre invoked the Boston Marathon bombing as proof that we need even more guns on the streets of America.

First, LaPierre’s inanity, then some analysis:

Imagine living in a large metropolitan area where lawful firearms ownership is heavily regulated and discouraged. Imagine waking up to a phone call from the police, warning that a terrorist event is occurring outside and ordering you to stay inside your home.’m talking, of course, about Boston. Where residents were imprisoned behind the locked doors of their homes — a terrorist with bombs and guns just outside. Frightened citizens, sheltered in place, with no means to defend themselves or their families from whatever may come crashing through the door.How many Bostonians wished they had a gun two weeks ago? How many other Americans now ponder that life-or-death question?

Lying in wait is a terrorist, a deranged school shooter, a kidnapper, a rapist, a murderer — waiting and planning and plotting — in every community across this country. Lying in wait right now. No amount of political schemes, congressional legislation, presidential commissions, or media roundtables will ever change that inevitable reality.

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: No bill in Congress, no Rose Garden speech will ever change the inescapable fact that the only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun.

Interesting, since the MIT police officer who was brutally shot dead – with a gun – by the terrorists, presumably had a gun himself as MIT cops are armed. It didn’t help. And the nearly 300 people who got blown up at the marathon wouldn’t have been helped by a gun either. In fact, had the terrorists had guns, they could have killed far more people – just as the Sandy Hook shooter was able to massacre 20 children, alone, with guns.  So the good guy had a gun.  But because the bad guy had a gun too, the good guy is now dead.  So the actual solution is that the bad guy not have guns in the first place.

As for having the entire city armed with weapons, can you imagine what would have happened?  Tell me a federal agent wouldn’t have been dead, knocking on some door, surprising the resident, who immediately shot them?  The NRA dreams of the day that every American has a gun, that we all end up being hunters in the city, looking for the next “bad guy” to murder.  It’s a rather sickening vision of the future.  Then again, this is the way the NRA sells more guns.  But constantly trying to scare the bejeesus out of people.  With all the massacres, including massacres of children, that Americans face multiple times a year now, it’s the only way gun nuts can sell more guns – by arguing that we now need even more guns in order to stop the guns the gun nuts put there in the first place.

NY Daily News on NRA Wayne LaPierre, head of the NRA.

Wayne LaPierre, head of the NRA.

But we’re dealing with political extremists, the gun nuts, who will say anything, use any tragedy, in order to fulfill their goal of helping the gun makers get rich by putting even more guns on the street, and helping further America’s cult-fascinating, cult-embrace of violence.

LaPierre also said that gun control advocates want violence to happen – want children to be shot dead – so that we can better push our anti-gun agenda:

Already, they are conspiring in private. Re-grouping, planning, preparing, organizing, even waiting for the, quote “next Newtown” — the next tragedy to come, the next senseless, horrific crime to exploit.

Says the man who immediately exploited Newtown and now is exploiting the Boston Marathon bombing.  Stephen Colbert recently  expressed his sympathy for the NRA and its stooges like NH GOP Senator Kelly Ayotte.  Colbert called them the “senseless victims of victims.”

The even bigger problem than guns in our culture is our culture’s love of violence.   And that love of violence is only furthered by people like the NRA.  What the NRA never wants to talk about is why America has more guns than most anywhere, yet we also have more violence.  Is it that Americans are worse people than most foreigners?  Is it really that Americans are crazier, more in need of mental health, than non-Americans?  Is that really the NRA’s line?  Or is that, for whatever reason, the more guns we put on the streets the more violence we seem to have.

And now the NRA is using the dead and wounded in Boston to push their pro-gun agenda, as always.

And LaPierre is wrong.  The only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is not a good guy with a gun.  You could always just take all the guns away and refuse to play the game in the first place.


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  • hefetone

    My my you are full of yourself, aren’t you. This “suburban bot” lives in Newark, NJ now and has for many years. Would you like to take your little ‘urban’ ass to my city and tell me about violence? And, like I said, we ignore the fact that young black males are killing each other at very high rates, be it East St. Louis, South Chicago, or Fulton County in Atlanta. You want to blame it on the police that black guys are killing each other, have fun trying to make that case. And, as for hearing guns at a range and getting all verklempt, it tells all of us that 1) you have never been in the military and 2) you ain’t really a city kid. Go back to the community college and take a course on logic….South St. Louis indeed….where? Frontenac?

  • samizdat

    You grew up in St. Chuck…that says it all.

    For those of you who don’t know, St. Chuck is an exurb of the City–across the Missouri River. It is an old City, almost as old as STL to be sure, but these days bears no more resemblance to an ‘old’ city than any of the greenfield burbs which have grown up around it. Hefetone is just one of those suburban bots who claim to know all about the big, bad City of St. Louis. His paranoia is not reflective of reality. I stated the reality…he references his own paranoia. I’ve never downplayed the violence present in my City, or any other. Matter of fact, as a white male, I am significantly less likely to be a victim of a crime. Those two young black men? Not so much, and it is a sad, ironic truth that as black males they will get it from other black males, or the cops. My statements not only reflect my observed reality, but the reality as it is reflected by statistics. (Having said that, the STL PD had a mighty scandal a few years ago when it was discovered that instead of formal police reports, many rape and sexual assault victims had their crimes essentially buried by the practice of using a ‘memo’ to report the crimes, not a formal police report. That practice has since been ended.)

    As for ‘everyday’ gun crimes, well, people like me have been advocating for stricter controls on gun sales for over 30 years, in addition to advocating for governmental policies which don’t push all of our jobs overseas, and eliminating the tuition of college/uni educations, and working in general for a just and equitable society. All of these have been proven in word and deed to radically decrease crime rates. Of course, taking ethyl lead out of gasoline has also had the unintended consequence of reducing crime rates over the last 20 years.

    Most of the time, when I hear gun shots in my nabe, it’s the City cops down at the firing range off of I-55, near the Mississippi, down the street from a tank farm and the City refuse transfer station/dump. This is no exaggeration. Almost like clockwork, maybe 5 or 6 times a month, around 3.30-4pm it starts: pop-pop-pop-papop-poppa-pop! Goes on like that for more than an hour, and is quite audible, in spite of the one mile or so distance to the range.

  • Ferd

    “Accuse the other side of doing exactly what you are doing,”

    That would be no different than blaming the NRA and all gun owners for mass murders.

    Nobody wants criminals and crazies to get their hands on guns, just how is requiring gun registration going to solve that problem? Do you expect the criminals to run en-mass to register their illegal weapons, or to register to buy new ones?

  • hefetone

    Well….ok. First, I didn’t assume that every black male is going to get the drop on me. What I said was that we are so busy living ‘in great fear’ that some white guy is going to go on a rampage (a very low incidence event by the way) that we have downplayed other forms of violence that happens every day. The point I was making was essentially that you and others like you are so busy trying to deflect criticism onto white guys that you are ignoring the very real and everyday violence that occurs in the inner cities. And, by the way, I grew up in St. Charles MO years ago and still return frequently…if you are trying to get people to believe that St. Louis has an unearned reputation as one of the most dangerous in the country, you need to do a bit more dissembling…People stay away from neighborhoods and people for a reason…it is most often not racism, it is out of a self-preservation instinct…if you want them to give that up so that black guys won’t feel bad, you are delusional.

  • Ferd

    So, ration is not your strong suit.

  • Ferd

    For celebrating the living?

    Perhaps you should be in search of your own soul.

  • Ferd

    Ah, an anarchist I see.

  • Ferd

    There is no such thing as; “armed terrorists militias threatening the citizens and security of America.”

    Your own paranoia is getting the better of you.

  • Ferd

    “It is estimated that in the U.S. at least one property related crime occurs every three seconds.”

    http://www.articledashboard.com/Article/Home-Invasion-Crime-Statistics/981639

    Hardly paranoid.

  • samizdat

    You are vile, disgusting person. A pitiful waste of DNA.

    How and where did you lose your soul?

    Just curious.

  • samizdat

    I live in a City, St. Louis, which has a reputation (unearned, I might add) for being one of the most dangerous and violent in the country. I’ve never been assaulted, robbed, mugged, shot at, nor any other act such as that. Neither has my wife. I have lived in this City since ’92, so I’ve got 21 years of experience in this. Are there murders? Yes. Rapes? Yes. Assaults? Yes. But if we combined those stats for the City with those of St. Louis Cty, we would be one of the safest regions in the country. As it is, being statistically and politically separated from the county skews the stats somewhat. But even then, we still won’t rank with many other cities in terms of total violent crime stats.

    I’ve been attending a technical college here in the City, and a couple of my classmates are black men, who just happen to be ex-felons. Nice guys, too. They are trying to get their lives back together, and it isn’t easy with Class A jerks like you out there assuming that every black male is going to get the drop on you before he just out ‘n’ out plugs you.

    You apparently live in a world of great fear. I pity you.

  • samizdat

    90% percent is too large to be anomalous. As for a national vote, well, considering that our political process is almost 100% owned by the wealthy elite and supranational corporations, I have my doubts about voting in this country.

  • Ferd

    Polls, from any side of an issue, are nothing but BS. The methodology is skewed/biased. If it were put to a national vote, that I would believe, and live with the outcome, whatever it might be.

  • Ferd

    Well, at least there are 80 who could still be read to.
    There really is a silver lining in every cloud.

  • Ferd

    “But the lies and paranoid,hate filled propaganda continues.”

    And you just spewed a mouth full of it!
    Do you piss yourself every time a car backfires?

  • Ferd

    Ewww, aren’t you quick witted. I bet nobody ever used that line before.

  • Ferd

    Your Mamma. What are you 12?
    As I figured, they don’t exist. Just more made up facts.

  • Ferd

    Obviously.

  • Ferd

    Nope

  • Ferd

    And just what would the police do to save you? You would be long dead before a cop ever showed up.

  • Ferd

    Nope

  • http://www.rebeccamorn.com/mind BeccaM

    It’s also possible that a moderator banned him. *shrugs* Not that I especially care what a troll thinks.

  • Bill_Perdue

    Obama has passed Clinton in terms of union busting, feeding the already obscenely bloated rich, pursuing wars of aggression and gouging holes in Social Security. Anyone knowingly voting for that is an enemy of progress.

    Obama was elected by about 1/3 of eligible voters.

    Liberals and Democrats are right centrists moving right, trying to outflank their Republican cousins from the right. Which is why as long as they swim in the sewers of the Democrat party they’re of no use to anyone and are politically inert. All they do is perpetuate racism war, union busting and attacks on the standard of living of working people.

    Obama is not that ‘black guy’ they got elected. He’s that mad dog warmongering anti-union, racist guy they got elected.

    http://www.theroot.com/blogs/blogging-beltway/has-obama-failed-black-americans-jobs

    http://www.blackagendareport.com/content/obama-legacy-pt-1-many-top-ten-things-black-america-will-have-show-8-years-president-obama

  • http://twitter.com/BillFromDover Bill from Dover

    Crickets?

  • http://twitter.com/BillFromDover Bill from Dover

    Leave it up to one who obviously must think like a child to come up with your response.

  • http://twitter.com/BillFromDover Bill from Dover

    Well then, smarty pants, how do ya explain the left-wing media bias and the lame-stream media which, apparently, is anything other than Fox News, talk-radio and ass-hat conservative blogs?

  • esotericknowledge

    LOL, there are criminals lying in wait in every community in America, people!…that’s a lot of criminals! Wayne LaPierre knows! And it’s funny that in this fantasy world there is apparently no 911 or police! Pew pew pew! And I like how in fantasy land trying and wanting to make the world a little more sane and safe is “exploiting people”!

  • http://twitter.com/BillFromDover Bill from Dover

    So your definition of regulated and trained are now equivalent?

    Here’s another one for ya, nothing more, nothing less:

    Ferdism is to a fuckin’ idiot as:

    a) The NRA is to deranged, mentally deficient flagella.

    b) Conservatives are to anything other than reality and confused/lost sperm.

    c) Rush, Glenn and Sean are to both facts and annal warts.

    d) Fox News is to fair and balanced.

    e) all the above

    f) all the above on industrial-strength steroids.

    Surely ya must have a preference, more or less?

  • http://twitter.com/BillFromDover Bill from Dover

    And now the republican plan is to give them more help & care… ha!

    Hell, how can that not possibly remedy the over 30,000 death a year by guns?

  • http://twitter.com/BillFromDover Bill from Dover

    Not to mention their foaming-at-the-mouth rabidity!

  • http://twitter.com/BillFromDover Bill from Dover

    Except for that black guy in the white House that they got elected twice?

  • http://www.rebeccamorn.com/mind BeccaM

    Heck, he doesn’t even do that much. Here he just says he doesn’t believe them.

    As for us on the other hand, when the numbers aren’t to our liking — such as the 1 in 4 Americans who thought Dubya did a terrific job, or the appalling 41% who think torture is sometimes justified, or the 46% who believe in creationism — we’re dismayed, but we don’t just say “those numbers are a lie.”

    Come to think of it, denying reality and facts seems to be at the very core of the conservative-regressive mindset.

  • http://twitter.com/BillFromDover Bill from Dover

    As a screaming liberal, I can’t think of anything I want than more than a plethora of Newtown massacres.

    Thank you Mr. LaPierre, for bringing out that repressed feeling in me and, obviously, most liberals that the only way to save our race is by slaughtering it with assault-style weapons manufacturers supported by your beloved NRA suppliers… especially the kiddy models.

    Without your expert and acute acumen, I may have never realized this, as I am amazed how someone with your ignorant background could possibly surmise this.

    Again, thanks for all the psychiatric bills I might have otherwise wasted wondering exactly what it was that made me choose to become a rabid liberal.

    Rest assured, sir that I will now now find sleep easier to succumb to without the help of my vibrator.

    Whoopsies, make that my vibrating bed.

  • http://twitter.com/BillFromDover Bill from Dover

    Yo Ferd,

    Didja ever notice those that don’t like the results of a poll are the first to disavow it… usually by citing another poll?

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    A trip to Gitmo for you?

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    You are a perfect example of why abortion should be legal

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    Your Mamma.

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    Will you please scratch your SCOTUS in the privacy of your own home please.

  • hefetone

    Have you looked at the crime rate or at the most dangerous neighborhoods in the country? Why aren’t we talking about it everyday and doing something about it?

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    “see where your 90% ends up.” Well, it certainly won’t be where your head is currently.

  • pappyvet

    of course or at the least play the play them down

  • http://www.rebeccamorn.com/mind BeccaM

    I suppose today’s Special Guest Troll — ‘Ferd’ — will deny any of those shootings ever happened.

  • http://www.rebeccamorn.com/mind BeccaM

    Why don’t you read a bedtime story to these kids here?

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/05/05/1206983/-Accidental-Shootings-of-Children-and-Teens-Since-Newtown

    Right, you can’t — because 57 of them are now dead, and another 80 wounded.

    So here is a list of accidental shootings of children and teens since the Newtown massacre on December 14, 2012. As of May 4, 2013 — less than five months later — this list includes 137 accidental shootings, 57 of which were fatal. These children and teens were accidentally shot by themselves, by parents, siblings, relatives, friends, neighbors, and caregivers. In other words, these shootings were not by strangers. Many of the guns used in these shootings were obtained by family
    members for personal protection.

    This list is not exhaustive, as many accidental shootings are unreported. It also doesn’t include suicides using guns kept in the home, which are also often unreported in the media. In addition, I left out quite a few gun injuries suffered by older teens. Finally, this list does not include several incidents of shootings by children and teens when the victim was an adult.

  • pappyvet
  • Ferd

    Care to share the source of your statistics?

  • pappyvet

    The Second Amendment arguably has fewer restrictions on it these days than many of the other first ten. The idea that a group of Americans possesses an absolute “right” to own and keep weapons that can—and in practice do—kill numerous innocent people in seconds, destroying families and communities and tearing at the nation’s collective soul, is barbaric and psychotic. As the old saying goes: if you want to shoot an assault weapon, go enlist.

  • Ferd

    “”regulated Militia” in Amendment. Regulated is key word implying regulation of guns as constitutional.”

    SCOTUS disagrees with your interpretation. But don’t let facts stop you from believing otherwise.

    Well regulated militia translates to “well trained militia.” Nothing more, nothing less.

  • Ferd

    Let me guess, you write children’s bedtime stories.

  • Ferd

    I have been fortunate enough to visit open carry establishments in Idaho, They are not so paranoid as to shoot at every noise they hear. And even with the open carry laws, it is a rare sight to see someone exercising that right.

  • Ferd

    It is even more simple than that, 90% is obviously, a lie.
    Put it to a national vote and see where your 90% ends up.

  • Ferd

    Can you imagine the amount of future gun buyers there would if abortion was illegal?

  • Ferd

    Now, any rational suggestions?

  • Ferd

    “police force is going to bust in their doors and take their guns away.”

    Like what is happening in New York and California today?

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    Oh please, nobody’s going to attack you for selling Avon from door to door. But do keep an eye out for those roving bands of Negro youths.

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    I have heard that English cuisine is also a leading cause of death among the gastronomically sensitive.

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    “If you have any suggestions please proclaim them loudly.” OK, Eliminate or rewrite the 2nd Amendment. Private militias should be considered as terrorist threats to the safety and security of American citizens. Make illegal all rounds above 10 for citizens, computerized universal background checks for all fire arms sold under any conditions, make it a felony to own or use semi or automatic weapons and any military grade weapons. Any gun used in the commission of a felony crime should exact fines from the manufacturer and civil penalty for the user including confiscation of property. There are a few others, but I imagine you are fuming about now.

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    And if there’s more than one Nicho, a conspiracy is a’foot.

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    “How is it that something that is has the support of 90% of the public gets blocked from becoming law—” The answer is simple and horrible in dimension: We no longer have a democracy.

  • emjayay

    And fixed. Love the edit function here.

  • emjayay

    Or to follow his story more specifically, it sounds like someone might be looking out their apartment window above the marathon finish line and see the backpack being deposited, and then simply shoot the guy in a crowd of hundreds of people. Or I guess when the bomb went off outside your apartment and the guy was long gone, you could lean out and spray the whole crowd with bullets from your semi-automatic? Or maybe he meant that later if you saw some guy hiding in your back yard – maybe because he saw some crazy in the front yard with a gun as he was walking by, or was running from a mugger or something – you could just shoot him.

  • BlueIdaho

    Of the two states I have lived in, Texas and Idaho, I can’t decide which has more gun-crazed terrorists. However, Idaho has something that I never experienced in Texas. There is an “open-carry” law here. There is a new restaurant in town that I would like to try but they allow their patrons to “open-carry” while dining. I refuse to go, lest a waitress dropping a dish might result in me being in a deadly crossfire.

  • Badgerite

    Maybe we, as Americans, are crazier and more in need of mental health if we let the NRA and idiots like T. Nugent dictate legislative choices to the rest of the country from their perch high atop Crazy Hill. How else do you explain why the country takes this shit. How is it that something that is has the support of 90% of the public gets blocked from becoming law by people who claim to be sane and representing the public voice.

  • hefetone

    I don’t know if liberals want more massacres. What I do know is that they don’t want to publicize black mass murderers or talk about the most dangerous neighborhoods in the country:

  • Bill_Perdue

    Wrong. They’re not fascists. Like Democrats and Republicans they’re just run of the mill rightists or right centrists.

  • Bill_Perdue

    Exactly correct.

  • Bill_Perdue

    It doesn’t matter in the least what liberals want or don’t want. As long as they swim in the sewers of the Democrat party they’re of no use to anyone and are politically inert.

  • FunMe

    I blame it on Reagan. Ronald Reagan.
    After all, Ronnie let all the crazies out.

  • Sweetie

    “You want more massacres? Sure, we all do.” — Sally Struthers

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fj23I8hgj28

  • Corey Mondello, Boston MA

    If like to call for laws that made it entertainment to watch Christians being eaten alive by lions/tigers in the town square, and for any terrorist wanna be to get on the email list of when T-baggers are having a meeting…

  • http://fighttherightwingnuts.blogspot.com/ mike31c

    These gun-nuts are kind of lacking in intelligence but more then make up their stupidity for their ability to have this obsession with conspiracy theories!

  • http://poodyheads.wordpress.com/ Papa Bear

    Even more statistics point to the fact that idiothead comes home, hears a noise, runs to the bedroom and discovers that he can’t find his “under the bed backup gun”. But the intruder now coming out of the kitchen did…
    8-O

  • pappyvet

    well stated Becca

  • Naja pallida

    They all immediately went and got jobs as lobbyists, apparently.

  • pappyvet

    Exactly. The kinds of weapons they are fighting for have only one purpose,to kill human beings. The paranoid arguement that gangs and terrorists are going to break down their front door at any moment is a childish rationalization.

  • woodroad34

    See? This is the result of Reagan emptying the mental institutions back in the 80′s. They’re all loose in so many ways.

  • samizdat

    What do we expect from the soulless lackey who’s head of MarketingPRopaganda/sales for the gun and armaments manufacturers?

    If you are a current member of the NRA, you should be ashamed of yourself. This organization’s leadership has lost all legitimate claims to decency, empathy and their own humanity.

  • JayRandal

    LaPierre should be designated as a domestic terrorist along with NRA itself. He should be arrested

    and prosecuted for promoting gun violence massacres. NRA hides behind their twisted interpretation

    of 2nd Amendment. NRA ignores “regulated Militia” in Amendment. Regulated is key word implying

    regulation of guns as constitutional. Assault rifles in particular should be outlawed for ownership.

  • Mike_in_the_Tundra

    It’s obviously my day to be paranoid. I’ll check my engagement calendar.

  • nicho

    With Nicho, there’s a 100 percent chance of a typo in any post.

  • nicho

    National Endowment for the Arts. LOL. Typo — comes from typing on the iPad.

  • MyrddinWilt

    What depresses me about all these stories about lunatics is that they are the GOP base.

    Every country has lunatics but the US is the only developed country where they dominate the political debate and have both parties scared of them.

    Part of the problem is that as newspapers lose readers to the Web, the remaining readers are older and more reactionary. So the newspapers move to the right to keep their remaining base which alienates their progressive readers and the readership tilts further right.

    Newspapers are struggling everywhere. But the US newspapers are struggling much more than the ones in Europe. I think the main reason for that is that the progressives left in disgust when the establishment media was waving pom-poms for Bush’s war.

  • MyrddinWilt

    If you look at the UK and the US the murder rate is actually identical. But only after you leave out the gun deaths.

    The number of knife murders, poisonings etc are pretty much the same. The difference between gun murders and non gun murders is the ease of doing it. Killing a person without using a gun is pretty messy and difficult.

  • Sean

    NRA = Nazi Reichpublican ASSociation

  • http://www.facebook.com/zachary.smith.3914207 Zachary Smith

    *** But they have been influenced by that kind of paranoia. ***

    Even nominally sane people can become unbalanced by the thrust of the unending propaganda.

    LaPierre probably actually believes “the only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun.” Saying that sort of thing has got him where he is today.

    http://tinyurl.com/btzl2rj

    In his book he claimed the Holocaust happened because of Hitler’s gun control. It’s impossible for me to believe the man is that stupid, so I’m forced to go with bat**** crazy.

    By LaPierre’s logic, if that little 2-year-old Kentucky girl had been armed, she could have shot her 5-year-old brother before he killed her with his Crickett .22 – a tiny gun actually made for small children.

    So we’re arming the toddlers – that child-killer rifle is selling like hotcakes!

    *** ‘If babies had guns they wouldn’t be aborted.’ *** ( Rep. Steve Stockman (R) of Texas)

    These people simply don’t have all their marbles.

  • http://www.rebeccamorn.com/mind BeccaM

    The part I find fascinating and frustrating is how LaPierre conflates pretty much unregulated gun ownership — including semi-automatics and extended magazines, and not just one or two weapons but entire arsenals — with the minimum necessary for home defense.

    For those who even think this is a danger or a problem, 30 or 100 rounds fired as fast as you can pull a trigger is, in any case less than an invasion of zombies or Mad Max gangs looking for gasoline, no more effective than a simple shotgun. (Don’t even have to kill with it — rock-salt shells can be a remarkable and non-lethal deterrent.) And a rapidly-fired semi-auto is arguably less effective for anyone with less training than a member of our armed services or professional police. Heck, even our servicemembers often carry shotguns for close-in engagements because they know it’s far more effective at short-range than a hip-fired AK-47 or similar weapon.

    The ‘tree of liberty’ argument? Fine, gun-nuts, go ahead and launch your insurrection and see how many Americans applaud you for shooting your fellow citizen servicemen and women. And no matter how many assault rifles and street-sweepers and other high kill-rate weapons fear-mongers like LaPierre con you into buying, none of them would enable you to survive a helicopter gunship.

    As for the sacrosanct nature of the 2nd Amendment, I’d like to know where were they when the 1st, 4th, 5th, 8th, and 9th Amendments were grossly and obviously abridged over the last decade. Torture and permanent imprisonment without trial are okay, but don’t even talk about having to pass a background check to buy a gun, or suggest that maybe there is no legitimate civilian use for 30- or 100- or 150-round magazines?

    Imagine waking up to a phone call from the police, warning that a terrorist event is occurring outside and ordering you to stay inside your home. I’m talking, of course, about Boston.

    And further imagine after that call you grabbed that AK-47 with it’s double-ended taped 30-round magazine from under your bed — hey, no trigger locks or gun safes for you, because you know you might need to defend yourself at a bare second’s notice. (True, you once caught your teenaged son messing with the rifle, but hey, a little spackle and paint and nobody can tell anymore there were three holes in the kitchen ceiling.) You run downstairs and position yourself at the front door, finger curled nervously around the trigger.

    Suddenly there’s a loud knock and instinctively you yank on that trigger again and again, knowing in your heart it must be the criminals/terrorists/gang-bangers/zombies on the other side.

    Only it’s not. Perhaps it was the police come to check on you. Or your neighbor who, after receiving the same call and seeing your lights on, decided to come over to crack open a beer and watch the news with you. Or one of your own kids, home late because they had to wait to get past the police barricades, only you didn’t know they weren’t already in bed.

    Sadly, all the statistics for the last half century point to this latter likelihood. That it remains vastly more likely for an innocent family member, friend, or stranger to be shot than for a homeowner to take down an actual criminal. I’m not saying at all that the latter doesn’t happen, but numbers don’t lie.

  • Jim Olson

    I think there are some that would agree that the National Endowment for the Arts is a terrorist organization, inflicting the arts upon those who do not wish it…
    /snark.

  • http://www.rebeccamorn.com/mind BeccaM

    Yeah, but it’s Nicho, so there’s zero chance it was anything but a typo.

  • Mike_in_the_Tundra

    I thought that was a possibility, but I really wasn’t sure. Teachers get blamed for a lot of weird stuff. BTW – I was a teacher.

  • pappyvet

    “LaPierre seems to represent the lunatic fringe but he’s also successfully tapped into a very real mild to moderate paranoia among millions of Americans.”

    Mild to Moderate?
    Is the “right to bear arms” the only measure of their freedom? All the other freedoms they enjoy seem for them to be worthless or meaningless – i.e., speech, the press, religion, assembly, the right to petition for redress. Even the pursuit of happiness doesn’t need armament. The Second Amendment was adopted at a time when many Americans had to hunt and kill for supper.
    The NRA would have us all armed against those ghoulies and long-legged beasties and things that go bump in the night,” of which they seem so terrified.
    Guns are the one common denominator of gun deaths. We must get the guns off the streets, , away from our schools, theaters,and shopping malls ,period.

    How can we imprison a juvenile carrying a few ounces of marijuana and yet allow some immature grown man waiting for the “end times” to walk around armed with weapons that can, in minutes, slaughter a classroom?

    Do you want to know what is fueling this? Here it is;

    “I tell people don’t kill all the liberals. Leave enough so we can have two on every campus — living fossils” Rush Limbaugh

    “The day will come when unpleasant things are going to happen to a bunch of liberals and it’s going to be very amusing to watch.” Lee Rogers

    “My only regret with Timothy McVeigh is he did not go to the New York Times Building.”
    Ann Coulter

    “Make no mistake about it, there is a war going on in this country. The aggressors in this war are Democrats, liberals and leftists” David Horowitz

    Mild to moderate? Not hardly. But the lies and paranoid,hate filled propaganda continues.

  • Leota2

    I constantly watch the lips of these NRA shills moving, but have only heard
    banshee crazy coming out of their mouths.

  • Naja pallida

    Seems to me that the people who want guns out of the hands of crazy people are the ones who want to prevent future massacres. The people who want to make sure more crazy people and criminals have easy access to guns are the ones who want more mayhem. LaPierre is just pulling out the standardized Republican response since the days of Speaker Gingrich: Accuse the other side of doing exactly what you are doing, that way no matter how they respond, they look like the petty, angry ones.

  • Naja pallida

    The vast majority of Americans do want rational solutions. The polling has repeatedly shown it. Except Congress is on the extreme end, in LaPierre’s pocket.

  • http://www.rebeccamorn.com/mind BeccaM

    Typo obviously…

  • Sally

    I jusut read that more Americans on American soil have been killed by toddlers with guns this year than by terrorists. I wish LaPuke would realize that the people dying are his future gun buyers. Not people like me that have never even SEEN a gun, nor do I want to. So go ahead, NRA, let your fear-crazed followers keep buying guns so they can shoot each other.

  • Mike_in_the_Tundra

    National Education Association?

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    “There should be a way for the vast majority of Americans who are in between the extremes to find rational solutions” There is: declare LaPierre a terrorist and revoke the 2nd Amendment. We do not need armored terrorists militias threatening the citizens and security of America.

  • nicho

    Well. We could look at democracies that have gun death rates that are a minuscule fraction of ours and copy what they do. Hint: strong gun control.

  • nicho

    The NEA is a terrorist organization. Once you realize that, everything they do makes sense. They hate America and Americans.

  • Houndentenor

    I’m from Texas. I know a lot of people who own guns. A lot. Almost all of them are responsible people who took great efforts to learn to use and handle their firearms safely and effectively. LaPierre’s comments do not represent the majority of them. But they have been influenced by that kind of paranoia. Most of them also believe that some sort of international police force is going to bust in their doors and take their guns away. I’m trying to imagine the scenario in which that is even possible and I come up with a blank. It’s not going to happen. But this fear is real and people who want sane, rational gun safety measures like background checks have to be careful what words they use. LaPierre seems to represent the lunatic fringe but he’s also successfully tapped into a very real mild to moderate paranoia among millions of Americans. We need to find a way to have a rational conversation among people who are not extremists (that includes the people who think we can ban all firearms…that’s just a fantasy…let it go). If you have any suggestions please proclaim them loudly. Demonizing people on either extreme doesn’t help. Nor does pandering to those extremists. There should be a way for the vast majority of Americans who are in between the extremes to find rational solutions. Shouldn’t there?

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