I alerted FBI about Tsarnaev-friend Kadyrbayev 2 weeks ago, got a ho-hum response

Imagine my surprise hearing CNN talk today about how one of the three friends of Boston Marathon bombing suspect Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, arrested today by the FBI, was Dias Kadyrbayev.

I had called the FBI, early in the morning on Friday, April 19, about Kadyrbayev. It was the morning they had released Tsarnaev’s name to the public, nearly two weeks ago.  I was passed to the FBI task force in Boston, and after I’d explained what I’d found to an agent, I was told that the information wasn’t as important as they thought, and they were triaging all info. He urged me to call back to the main FBI hotline, that I had already spent ten minutes explaining the story to, and I just let it go.  I wasn’t going to explain the details of what I’d uncovered to a third FBI agent, when none of them seemed to entirely understand what I’d found, or how the Internet worked.

According to HuffPo, Kadyrbayev was detained April 20th, after being questioned by the authorities.

What I’d found that morning were two things.  First, a Russian Facebook-style profile for Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, Suspect #2, which seemed to confirm his ties to Chechnya and interest in Islam.  But I also found the page of one of his friends, Dias Kadyrbayev. And I found some things on the page that struck me as odd.

Below are Tsarnaev’s and Kadyrbayev’s pages, that I just copied again (I have the originals on my home computer in DC):

Dzhokhar Tsarnaev's Russian social media page.

Dzhokhar Tsarnaev’s Russian social media page.

Dias Kadyrbayev's Russian social media page.

Dias Kadyrbayev’s Russian social media page.

Kadyrbayev’s page had a lot of photos of him with Dzhokhar and other friends.

But the most suspicious thing I found was that according to the time stamp on Dzhokhar’s page – the service lets you see when the person last checked in – Dzhokhar had checked in at 9:04pm the night before, two days after the bombing and only hours before the night of carnage that began at MIT. Oddly, Kadyrbayev had checked in at Kadyrbayev’s own profile only a few minutes later.  It made me wonder if they’d be in touch, and while I was going to suggest so publicly, I was most certainly going to pass the tip along to the FBI.

Shortly thereafter, Kadyrbayev removed Dzhokhar’s name from the photos he had on his own page.  This is the photo he removed the name from:

Dias-Kadyrbayev-and-Dzhokhar-Tsarnaev

I’m glad that the FBI interviewed Kadyrbayev, but I’m still a bit annoyed that when I passed to the agent in Boston, and told my story for a second time, that he not only triaged the information, but then told me to call the FBI again to re-explain what I hade already explained to two different people – suggesting that he was not going to be passing his notes along, which should have been suspicious.

Anyway, I just heard the news that Kadyrbayev was one of the friends arrested today for lying to the FBI, and I just had to weigh in.

Here are a few of the other photos of Dzhokhar Tsarnaev that I found on Dias’ site – at the time I deleted the other faces in the photos, including Dias’, to protect them:

suspect-2-1 suspect-2-3


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  • yeah

    You sound like a little bitch.

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  • NoBigGovDuh

    He was not arrested today, he was arrested two weeks ago. I translated some of the VK and it is not some kind of Islamic terrorist stuff.

  • DanDKU

    I sent in the photos too along with links. So what? About 1000 other people probably did the same thing. I’m sure the FBI wasn’t stupid enough to not take all the information they could off of social networking before releasing the names. However, just in case…like you… I took some the same screen captures and downloaded the same photos.

  • Think Don’t Comply

    What I get from this article is quite simple, you’re mad it wasn’t your tip the one that led to the arrest of the kid. I’m quite surprised you went through all that trouble, I mean stalking people, in an attempt to get something against them. So, if I have a page and a friend logs in I’m not allowed to talk to him because he could be a terrorist. Don’t forget that before anything he is a person, allowed to have friends, allowed to talk to them. And they were arrested for deleting/disposing of evidence. They took a backpack and a laptop. The backpack had empty firework things, but before the FBI stated that the explosives weren’t made with that. Also, there any pictures of Dzhokhar and his friends playing with fireworks, and his laptop(the one they took) was broken since way before the Boston bombings. But of course none of that is ever mentioned. For anyone who took so much time to find information on those boys it is odd that not once the inconsistencies of this case are mentioned. The FBI has been messing up since the beginning, lie after lie. And you people can tell me whatever you wish, but one thing is for sure, you won’t be able to explain why there are so many inconsistencies in the stories given by the FBI, in their statements and in the complaints.

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    I wish I’d have grabbed the link. But, I think it was Thruthout—posted yesterday.

  • nicho

    And these guys give stupid a bad name.

  • http://AMERICAblog.com/ John Aravosis

    I don’t think so – he told me they were triaging in, then asked me to called back to FBI HQ to get them all the info again. He wasn’t acting on it, and didn’t already have it. Just frustrating to sniff something out and be right – at least they went and interviewed him anyway the next day, so someone probably caught it independently which is good.

  • http://AMERICAblog.com/ John Aravosis

    LOL no

  • cole3244

    generally law enforcement solves cases not by solid investigative methods but by the criminals stupidity or the public’s involvement and tips.

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    Have you been following the story about the uncle, being married to a high level CIA agent?

  • Whitewitch

    If only young men had brains…sadly they remove them at about 13 (placing them safely and securely in the back pocket of their jeans) and don’t return them to the full functioning position until somewhere in there 50’s. It is sad, but true.

  • Mighty

    Punish them with prison then return them from whence they came. Probably returning them would be a worse punishment for them. However they broke our laws and must face our justice.

  • http://evilifiction.blogspot.com/ Pat

    It’s possible that the tip turned out to not be important because they already knew.

  • nicho

    They could always send them back to Pooty Poot in Russia. I’m sure that would go well. They just love Chechen activists.

  • nicho

    On second thought, it could have been that they already had this guy in their sights — something they couldn’t tell you — and they had a zillion other leads to follow. So they didn’t want to spend a lot of time writing down info they already had.

  • Sweetie

    “I don’t remember the al‐Qaida cells as being something that we were told we needed to do something about.”

    “Isn’t it a fact … that the August 6 PDB [Presidential Daily Briefing] warned against possible attacks in this country? And I ask you whether you recall the title of that PDB?”

    “I believe the title was ‘Bin Laden Determined to Attack Inside United States’.”

  • http://AMERICAblog.com/ John Aravosis

    Yeah, if the reports are true, I can’t imagine the court is going to look lightly on them “covering up” for this crime.

  • http://AMERICAblog.com/ John Aravosis

    LOL

  • http://www.rebeccamorn.com/mind BeccaM

    Gonna be some heavy, heavy prison time for those idiots. Whatever the maximum is for obstruction and maybe even for complicity, the book will be thrown.

  • Naja pallida
  • http://www.rebeccamorn.com/mind BeccaM

    I have a feeling, John, that your tip fell victim to the sheer volume of tips — a few solid, like yours, but the vast majority being rubbish — generated by America’s first “massively crowd-sourced law enforcement effort.”

    From the reports, apparently the dinks over on reddit were ID’ing possible suspects left and right.

    Oh, and I think these latest arrests of Tsarnaev’s friends on charges of obstruction further supports the “douche-nozzle sociopath” theory for motive. These are not the actions of professional terrorists. I mean, really? They go to Dzhokhar’s apartment and, in full view of the roommate, take away powder-drained fireworks and other evidence. Yeah, like that’ll never be discovered…

  • nicho

    Well, you got pretty much the same brush-off as Russian intelligence got when they called the FBI to flag these guys as having terrorist links — so you’re in good company. And for the record, this guy wasn’t arrested just for lying to the FBI. He was arrested for removing incriminating evidence from the bomber’s room and throwing it away — after he found out he was one of the murderers.

    Azamat Tazhayakov and Dias Kadyrbayev, both 19 and of New Bedford, were charged with conspiracy to obstruct justice by plotting to dispose of a laptop computer and a backpack containing fireworks belonging to bombing suspect Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, the US attorney’s office said in a statement.

    The trio told investigators that Kadyrbaev removed Tsarnaev’s backpack, which contained fireworks that had been opened and emptied of gunpowder, from Tsarnaev’s dorm room on the evening of April 18, shortly after the FBI released photos of the two bombing suspects (which the FBI later identified as Dzhokhar Tsarnaev and his brother, Tamerlan), according to an affidavit by Special Agent Scott Cieplik attached to the complaint.

    Kadyrbayev and Tazhayakov both admitted they agreed to throw away the backpack after concluding from news reports that Dzhokhar Tsarnaev must be one of the bombers. Kadyrbayev decided to remove the backpack from Tsarnaev’s room “to help his friend Tsarnaev avoid trouble,” the affidavit said.

    Kadyrbayev allegedly later threw the backpack in a dumpster at the New Bedford apartment complex where Kadyrbayev and Tazhayakov lived. The backpack was taken away by a garbage truck, but was recovered last week inside a black garbage bag by the FBI at a New Bedford landfill, the affidavit said.

    http://www.boston.com/metrodesk/2013/05/01/three-additional-people-taken-into-custody-boston-marathon-bombings/dhLzU1e5vfbuhxyjWlBOSP/story.html

  • Naja pallida

    That, and the simple fact that the people answering the phones likely have absolutely no real incentive to push anything but the most obvious leads up the food chain. If you’re the guy who is constantly pushing wild goose chases on to the next level of investigation, you’re probably going to be slapped down. Though, still, given the high profile nature of the case, you’d think they’d have taken it a bit more seriously.

  • http://AMERICAblog.com/ John Aravosis

    Yep, he’s Kazakh.

  • http://www.facebook.com/robgmartin67 Robert Martin

    Nope not North Korean. He is from another on of the Russian ‘stans (Kazakhstan). While still having a majority of Muslims ethnically the people are Mongoloid.

  • http://twitter.com/NoGodSTFU There Is No God STFU

    Also if this guy is North Korean we’ll cry.

  • http://AMERICAblog.com/ John Aravosis

    The odd thing was that I’d already been triaged from FBI HQ and passed along to the FBI task force in Boston, because HQ thought it was important. Boston disagreed. Just interesting.

  • http://twitter.com/NoGodSTFU There Is No God STFU

    The hohum response was likely due to the fact that every racist nationalist fuck in the country calls in 17 “possible terrorists” a day. Of course I’m not saying you’re a racist nationalist, I’m just pointing out the obvious: they can’t follow every tip. How do they know which ones to take seriously?

  • http://www.facebook.com/robgmartin67 Robert Martin

    That can be frustrating to say the least, John. They may, though, have not realized how significant the information was at the time being as there was that whole Reddit scandal that happened a few days before. It doesn’t excuse them though from saying “Thank you, we’ll check that information out.”.

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