Boston marathon bomb suspect’s mom smells a hoax, blood was just paint

The mother of Tamerlan and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, Zubeidat Tsarnaev, tells CNN that she’s not entirely sure the whole Boston Marathon bombing ever even really happened:

“I saw very very interesting video last night, that the Marathon was something like a really big play, there is like paint instead of blood, like it is made up something.”

Yeah.  That’s what happens when you introduce ma to YouTube.

And the airplane never hit the Pentagon.

And Bush knew about 9/11.

And no one was really killed at Sandy Hook Elementary, it was just a hoax, and/or the feds were behind it.

Paint, huh?

If the Tsarnaev boys had nothing to do with the Boston Marathon bombing, then why hasn’t Dzhokhar ever mentioned that fact, that he’s innocent?

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Zubeidat Tsarnaev, mother of Tamerlan and Dzhokhar.

Speaking of innocent, you might remember mom from her mug shot:

CNN has the video of mom’s revelation about the “hoax.”


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  • Skeptical

    Many people have probably seen this video with the same witness appearing in TV interviews in three separate locations: the Boston Marathon, the shootout in Watertown, and Sandy Hook (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=SkHVuTL6v7Y). She visibly has putty on her nose in the Sandy Hook interview. Well, I just found what I believe is another remarkable interview.

    Here’s a neat little experiment you can try at home.

    1. Watch and listen to this interview with a man referred to as Gabe – elsewhere reported to be CNN reporter Gabe Ramirez: http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_218411&feature=iv&src_vid=MrNMhQ4Rx08&v=VS8CAUFFSMU

    Now, look at this photo of CNN photographer Gabriel Ramirez: https://twitter.com/ebagramirez

    Is this the same Gabe you saw in the video?

    2. Watch this goofy segment with Tom Hanks: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPLWKBWkn3s

    Now, ask yourself: Is Gabe actually Tom Hanks, wearing heavy makeup?

    Go back and play the CNN interview again. Listen to his voice, his accent, his manner of speaking. Look at his face, especially his upper lip. Look at his facial expressions, the darting movement of his eyes.

    I’m a teacher, and I know that if one assignment is similar enough to another one that I actually notice the similarity, the chances of this being accidental are vanishingly small. I wasn’t trying to look for Tom Hanks or anyone else in that interview – I was just watching it for the content. In fact, I’d previously found that interview totally convincing, unlike many others – I’d even commented on it to my husband. But then, as I was watching it again, it suddenly dawned on me – out of the blue – that that guy is Tom Hanks. It IS Tom Hanks.

    No wonder he was so convincing!

  • zhera

    Oh, I bet you’re just all sorts of fun at parties!

    How do you ‘explain’ that people were actually injured (the guy who lost his legs, for instance) if it was just a bombing drill?

  • Ninong

    The Russian Mafia wannabes have a lawyer now. Their lawyer says the phony license plate — Terrorista #1 — was “bad timing.” I’ll say! His 19-yr-old client was scared to death to have his door busted down by swat teams just because he violated his student visa by not actually being enrolled in any school. I think his friend violated his student visa by not attending classes on a regular basis. I don’t know why the third guy was cuffed. Maybe he misspelled something on his application?

    http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/lawyer-jailed-pair-shocked-boston-bomb-claims-19054519

  • dcinsider

    To put it politely, mom is nuts. Whether she is clinically mentally ill, or simply bananas, its no surprise her spawn turned out to be useless trash. When the DNA cesspool is this badly damaged, it’s the rare zygote that gets out alive so to speak. Mom needs to be slapped upside the head.

  • alex

    Its a HOAX. 100%. Every one is a actor including the mom. You need to have 9/11 truthers to make 9/11 real. They have both sides to cover all bases. Some question basic and others comes with proof to show its real. Contrived. American people are just losers. In casino House always win. TPTB play both side of game either republican or democrat. They are in either side. Only place where there get exposed is against Israel. They all are israelis first and americans second. It was a bombing drill. They had like 100 wheel chair and all work like clock perfection in that each know their roll. How come they allow cowboy hat guy near the victims when they kick out every one? He was placed there. His job is pour blood on people and place then he take out fake handicapped guy. Funny part is real injured people wait for ambulance. There is no fking ambulance for ever. They wheel each one to white hut that built just for this performance.

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    :-)

  • dula

    Yeah I made it all up so you could get your gold star for being a good Liberal for the day.

  • slavdude

    Yeah, but you know there are those who would say that it’s all Obama’s fault somehow, right? His DHS and intelligence agencies are not the same virtuous ones of previous administrations. Hell, Miss Lindsey Graham has already been publicly linking Benghazi and Boston.

  • UncleBucky

    OK, I got you. Everyone’s entitled to their opinion. But on that last sentence. Is that as far as you go? Blame? What about the aftermath? How do you fix the kids? Or don’t you fix them, and consign them to either death or oblivion? Actually, that’s where I am. I DO hold transference (Stockholm?) syndrome people responsible, but I also realized that had they never come into contact with those who influenced them, they would have turned out differently. So, in my mind, they are guilty, but not as guilty as those who put crap into their heads.

  • lynchie

    They suffer from a lack of education and are fed who knows what on the media outlets in their country. One thing we know little about is how the US is portrayed in the media of other countries and that has a lot to do with how the populace thinks. Fox and the media outlets do that here and do a good job (muslim, taking our guns, not born here, etc., etc.)

  • lynchie

    but they get all the benefits of being a religious group. No taxes, deference from authorities, etc. I don’t think they are attention whores they are craving more followers to massage the ego of their leader.

  • http://twitter.com/BillFromDover Bill from Dover

    Won’t make any difference.

    After all, is not a bagger by any other name, at it’s core, is still a bagger?

    These tards are content to live in a world comprised of their own reality… just like right-wing talk radio Neanderthals.

  • http://twitter.com/BillFromDover Bill from Dover

    Run unsilent, run undeep!

  • http://poodyheads.wordpress.com/ Papa Bear

    Wow! Not even zorbear would have thought to go there!
    8-O

  • http://poodyheads.wordpress.com/ Papa Bear

    And tossed back — even the aliens didn’t want her…
    ;-)

  • FunMe

    Meanwhile, I met a young girl in the Los Angeles area in Event Planning. She told me the biggest party she worked on was with Russians. I’m thinking … Russian MAFIA!

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    You access and depth of information continues to astound me Ninong

  • FunMe

    Agree.

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    Contemptible? Not in the least…. reflect away. Probably had to do with his moron of a mother. It’s the end result that matters to me which happens to be the murder of two women, a little boy and the brutal wounding of innocent bystanders. Do the sociology all you want….more power to you.

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    Can’t stop laughing. If only Tesla were alive.

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    Hang in there dude, you sound like a decent chap. If I lived in America, I’d be paranoid too.

  • judybrowni

    The nuts didn’t fall far from the nut tree.

  • Mark_in_MN

    What was that about twisting the language? Clearly you’d rather twist it than untwist it with a response like that.

  • mwestport

    Dear Mom, please return to the USA so they can arrest you at the airport. What a piece of work she is. To bad Margaret Hamilton is dead, she could play her in the movie.

  • condew

    Bullshit.

  • Ninong

    Here’s how looney she is. She denies that there were any victims. It was all a staged hoax. She told Russian reporters that it’s clear that that’s red paint on the pavement, not blood.

    Zubeidat and Tamerlan were both 9/11 Truthers. Apparently Tamerlan sort of converted his mother to whatever his beliefs were at the time. She and her husband Anzor were divorced in 2011. I guess he moved back to Dakestan after that? He was a lawyer in Chechnya before he came to the US in 2002 with Zubeidat and 8-yr-old Dzhokhar on a 90-day tourist visa and then applied for refugee status on the basis that his life would be in danger in Dakestan because of his ties to the government in Chechnya. They left 16-yr-old Tamerlan in Dakestan. He came over here in 2004 by himself to join them.

    I don’t know when the two daughters came over. They aren’t mentioned much at all online. Just the ex-husband of one of the sisters — probably the one Tamerlan rejected because he was a non-muslim — is talking a lot, like Uncle Ruslan, and transhing Tamerlan and Zubeidat as crazy. Ruslan’s last name is Tsarni — could be an abbreviated (Americanized?) spelling of Tsarnaev.

  • http://www.facebook.com/monoceros.forth Monoceros Forth

    And before then? Hell’s bells, aren’t you at least a little curious as to why some aimless people in their twenties go from not really caring much about anything to becoming extremist killers? You seem to regard the least bit of reflection about the cause of this crime as contemptible for some reason.

  • Ninong

    She was busted late last year for shoplifting $1624 in clothing from Lord and Taylor. She failed to show up for the court date and the case was never prosecuted. She claims her attorneys have assured her that if she returns to the US she will not be arrested.

  • AnitaMann

    Slight correction. Westboro Baptist has nothing to do with religion. It’s an inbred extended clan of attention whores.

  • http://www.rebeccamorn.com/mind BeccaM

    I’ve taken refuge in my home-built Faraday cage and am operating my computer with a long non-conductive stick poked through the mesh.

    It’s the only way to be sure.

  • http://www.rebeccamorn.com/mind BeccaM

    Reminds me of the old Monty Python sketch “The Most Awful Family in Britain”

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzXGhZebNOo

  • Ninong

    The family apartment was rent-subdized according to neighbors. It’s a really drab looking house at the back of the lot that you get to by walking down an alley on the side of the house at the front of the lot. That was the Tsarnaev family apartment where Katy Russell lived with Tamerlan, their 3-yr-old daughter, Dzhokhar, and the parents. Looks like Tamerlan and Katy lost welfare last year based on her earnings. She was working 7 days a week as a home health aide to support the family. It’s not a high-paying job and she was probably allowed to work as much as she wanted. They usually get paid so much per visit, not an hourly rate, plus mileage for their car. They might give baths, help with meals, check vitals, etc. She was probably working harder than anyone else in that family.

    Dzhokhar spent most of his time at his U-Mass Dartmouth dorm room over the past two years. Some of his pals say he dealed a little weed but a lot of the profit probably went up in smoke — he reportedly smoked every day lately. Maybe that’s why he was failing most of his classes this semester? Clearly he couldn’t afford any of that on his parents’ income. Some reports say he was on a full scholarship but even if that’s not correct, he almost certainly had student loans to cover tuition, room and board.

  • karlInSanDiego

    Ok, my last post and I’ll walk away. I’m an engineer by training and profession. My degree is from the University of Delaware in Electrical Engineering, so I resent the mention that people of science should be too smart to believe that the government could have perpetrated 9/11. I graduated in 1992, so I was of draft age when the first Bush administration lied us into our first war since the 1973 withdraw from Vietnam, Gulf War 1, with a faked story told to Congress of Babies being torn from incubators and left to die. That single story alone was the tipping point that led the US to begin warring in the Middle East. If you don’t remember it, research it. It was a hoax. And many Iraqis died as a result of the war that followed. When did we learn it was a hoax? A year after the war ended. Heard of the Gulf of Tonkin? I’m not a gullible person, nor to I paint people who disbelieve lies from the government as gullible. I do take issue with people who dismiss those who question the Bush administration’s story re: 9/11. I don’t tolerate gay jokes, race jokes, or jokes about the mentally ill. For the same reason, I don’t tolerate jokes amongst progressive people about tinfoil hats from people don’t bother to learn the facts.

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    “the desperate search for identity drives people to do all sort of things,” Like murdering children and wounding hundreds……Extremist killers already have their identity.

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    I have never bought into the Patty Hearst transference BS. They should have given her life for the murder of an innocent woman. I would blame the West African kids with AK-47’s.

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    She’s been ‘taken’ it’s an implant.

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    This is major Nicho. It’s time to switch to copper.

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    Bigfoot was spotted in the Phelps family backyard recently!

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    Did you know that China was monitoring when the seals dumped Osama Bin Laden in the sea and retrieved the body, which is now in cryogenics for eventual reanimation? They have also found DNA of Jesus’ family line and plan to create a clone?

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    Wooo, woo

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    spam troll

  • Whitewitch

    No I think we agree actually….

  • Whitewitch

    Couldn’t agree more

  • d3clark

    Mom and dad both seem to have some mental issues. Not just some extreme denial, but loose contact with reality verging on delusional. Mom and dad are enraged, blaming others, making threats, acting out, etc. Even if they don’t believe that their sons were involved, they still show no shock at what happened. They just seem to want to vent and, perhaps, to make some $$$$ out of this (books, movie rights, paid interviews).

    Look at what Sunil Tripathi’s family is doing. In spite of their son being accused of being one of the Boston Bombers and now, having his body found, they’re not tearing hair, railing at fate, making up conspiracy theories. They are starting a fund in his memory at Brown University. They are going to look at what they think would be best represented by his spirit and set up the fund to help those people. This family is reacting with grief, grace and dignity during these tragedies. The Tsunaevs are acting like jackals. Cut them slack? No. Maybe Russia needs to offer them some socialized psychiatry.

  • dula

    West Hollywood gave many Russians refugee status in the 80’s. Many of them have subsidized housing still. Their children come to pick them up in Mercedes.

  • nicho

    Or the Benghazi goons.

  • nicho

    Don’t follow this link. This is a phony post to drive traffic to some stupid site.

  • Mark_in_MN

    “Radical” is about getting to the root . It really doesn’t accurately describe what some mean when they use the word “radicalized” in cases like this. What they are talking about is not becoming a radical, but becoming an extremist. The root and the extremity are very different places to be. One seeks to get to the core of something’s being and meaning, the other is out on the limb. If ideology leads to actions like this, they are out on the edges not deeply into the core, the root: extremists not radicals.

  • greg reid

    I hope this is true just for her sake. She seems like an honest person and I feel like it would be heartbreaking for her for it to turn our true but then again Justice must be served so we need to find out ASAP who it is!

    http://reid-this.blogspot.co.uk

  • nicho

    She’s the one who pushed her sons to be indoctrinated by the shadowy extremist Misha. Screw her.

  • karlInSanDiego

    I disagree. This blog is about showing how FUBAR our press is, and Ameriblog is good at digging up the news that progressive people want to see, from any source that is being honest and not a pawn. And it’s also go lots of pro LGBT news and some pretty silly light stuff like kitten videos. So please, if you haven’t thought about 9/11 since it happened, or since the mountain of proof has surfaced that it wasn’t properly investigated or reported, do yourself a favor and try reading about it and talking about it with your friends. Chances are, you will not find any evidence supporting the story we were told, but you will find a stupid number of impossible facts about 9/11. Here’s one. Remember those terrifying phone cell phone calls from flight 93 that finally culminated in “Let’s Roll” of movie legend? Cell Phones in planes at 30,000 ft didn’t work in 2001. They didn’t work until new technology was developed in 2004 to do so. This is because cell towers didn’t work with planes in high altitudes and also couldn’t handle tower switching in that scenario. So, multiple people lied about these calls. Reports were written. Movies were made. And now we know they weren’t possible. Why do people choose not to question what really happened?

  • nicho
  • http://www.facebook.com/monoceros.forth Monoceros Forth

    Yeah. It’s something that’s given me pause lately…just thinking about how the desperate search for identity drives people to do all sort of things, some honorable maybe, many silly, many hateful and destructive.

  • http://www.facebook.com/monoceros.forth Monoceros Forth

    WTC 7, WTC 7, WTC 7…I swear, it’s like creationists still slobbering over those Paluxy “footprints” as “proof” that all of biology is a lie.

  • http://www.rebeccamorn.com/mind BeccaM

    To a point, perhaps. But mostly what you’ll hear from those mothers is “My beautiful baby boy didn’t do it. It must’ve been someone else.” Or, if faced with irrefutable evidence he did do it, “Someone must’ve made him do it.” Not, as has been pointed out here and in comments below, “Nothing actually happened. Nobody was killed or maimed. It’s all a hoax.”

    The first two reactions would be understandable. The third option is a slap in the face.

  • karlInSanDiego

    Not my stuff, but you’re not a better person than I for being smug about not falling for that conspiracy theory. Blog entry explicitly used 9/11 and two facets as things that only a crazy person would deny. Really George Bush not knowing about 9/11 is a crazy conspiracy theory? People who care, understand we were lied into war by Bush and his Neocon cabinet. The intelligence community knew in July that we were going to be attacked and PNAC needed a Pearl Harbor. I’m still trying to understand why people would believe he DIDN’T know about 9/11. Because that would be impossibly immoral for them to do nothing. Come on. Condolezza Rice. “Bin Laden determined to strike”. War Games explicitly knew airliners into WTC were a drill. Yet they told us the day it happened, “no one ever imagined this could happen” John’s right about Boston, but I’m not going to sit here and agree about things that thoughtful citizens do NOT accept as fact. Why accept the 9/11 commission report, when Bush administration blocked it for more than a year while all the evidence was removed and shipped to China, and even then, Commission Report’s authors admitted it was flawed? Shuttle disaster was given $50M to investigate, 9/11 Commission $3M. You don’t get to just say that building 7, the NYC disaster command center, was “pulled”, er um fell, um, burned, um, who’s gonna win American Idol?

  • Zorba

    LOL! Maybe she’s getting transmissions from her tooth fillings. You never know.

  • http://twitter.com/okojo okojo

    I give her a tiny bit of slack. If I am angry with the parents, or the whole Tsarnaev family, is the lack of authority and energy to tell their sons that there has to be a limit to their anger and behavior. There was no one to stop Tamerlan to implement his terroristic plot. Tamerlan’sn wife should had known something was up.

    I just see a breakdown in family to see these crimes take place.

  • condew

    Oh, that’s just “science”.

  • http://www.facebook.com/monoceros.forth Monoceros Forth

    You’re right, these aren’t “conspiracy theories”. “Theory” is a word that implies a certain standard of proof, not just a load of hand-waving.

    I love that all of these conspiratorial fantasies, every single one of them, whether they’re about 9/11 or the Apollo Landings or Sandy Hook or anything else, rely upon an essential contradiction: the evil gummint conspirators are simultaneously so clever and omnipotent that they can stage massive operations and fake mountains of evidence and fool almost everybody, yet they’re also so clumsy and careless that they’ll leave some really obvious detail that any child can see through and which ends up being the hook on which the whole gigantic conspiracy story is hung. So Apollo deniers cream their pants over the line at the bottom of the Apollo video footage and 9/11 truthers wank to stories of WTC 7. Pathetic.

  • http://twitter.com/okojo okojo

    I see it as angry young men acting out violently and stupidly. I see their use of Islam as trying to justify their behavior and frustrations. Tamerlan paid the price with his life and Dzhokhar will be executed for the crimes he committed.

  • nicho

    Like those who get drawn into right-wing Christian groups. They’re searching for meaning and are preyed upon by opportunists.

  • http://www.rebeccamorn.com/mind BeccaM

    You are so on the wrong website, Karl.

  • nicho

    If you want to have real fun, go to Town Meeting in a small town. As the night goes on, it just gets nuttier and nuttier.

  • http://twitter.com/okojo okojo

    She will probably always be in denial about her sons’ actions. It is just a coping mechanism no matter if it conflicts with reality.

  • http://twitter.com/okojo okojo

    She has to be in denial, or she questions how did she raise two children who are/were accused of some pretty heinous crimes. I think this happens alot with parents of children accused of brutal crimes. Denial is their crutch to keep on going.

  • http://twitter.com/amordecosmos amordecosmos

    Why is anyone interviewing her? Why is anyone reading her interviews?

  • UncleBucky

    OK. Radicals. Suits me. Point is, can we make a distiction between analyzing process (radicalized) and sympathy/disgust (radicals). I am not sympathetic and I am not with lack of disgust for the kid. But if we can’t figure out how a formerly non-radical kid can turn radical, then we gots big problems.

    The process must be analyzed. OK? :)

  • samiinh

    Indeed. We have LOTS of opportunities for fun here in NH.

  • UncleBucky

    They are criminals. No question. But as the kids in West Africa who were radicalized, there is an haze of victimization of the kid (maybe not the older brother) by the ARCH-CRIMINALS. I have this feeling that the kid was rendered obedient slave, and then the rest of what he did looked like a decision. He was the gun with the gun of the person who killed the real victims.

    Would you blame the West African kids with AK-47s? Really? Really? Or would you try to rehabilitate them? Or what?

    He can never be let out. That’s for sure.

  • http://www.facebook.com/monoceros.forth Monoceros Forth

    That was just footage for a movie, you know, that explosion. Never happened. *runs away*

  • evodevo

    OMG – really? A 9/11 truther. Sorry, I rank you all with the birthers. Go peddle your stuff elsewhere.

  • evodevo

    You’ll hear the same s&*t out of any mother of a hoodlum – I’ve heard it on teevee over & over through the years – white, black, hispanic – even when the evidence is overwhelming, like it is here. Their instinct is to defend family, no matter how psychopathic. Parents are the last ones you ask for the truth about a kid.

  • Zorba

    Well, if aluminum foil is pretty successful at blocking radio frequency identification technology, I figure that it would block the “alien transmissions” or whatever is causing these total nut-cases to buy into every whackadoodle belief that comes down the pike. ;-)

  • emjayay

    Interesting. Here for about eight years, 24 years old and you and your wife are on welfare? How does that work? (I’m not questioning it). Living in south Brooklyn I have often heard (hearsay, no facts) that no one is better at getting on every possible handout than Russians, while making losts of money under the table. (I know, these people aren’t exactly Russians, just general purpose middle European grifters, not to mention thiefs.) And of course, as nicho points out below and I was thinking…
    I’m sure there will be books and long articles detailing every aspect of the whole story of these people and every other possible angle and ramification of all of this.

  • condew

    You see, that’s why the crazy spreads; only tinfoil hats work, aluminum is not an adequate substitute.

  • condew

    No, I think what happened to the Boston bombers is quite accurately described as “radicalized” and I really resent people who try to twist the language.

  • http://www.facebook.com/monoceros.forth Monoceros Forth

    Apropos of nothing my partner’s name is Misha. >_> (Well, nickname, and only I call him that anyway.)

    But, yeah. I’d really like to know what was going on in Tamerlan’s head. He seems a bit like a young man adrift and drawn into the orbit of an extremist ideology, just as so many others have done, in a futile effort to give his life purpose and meaning.

  • Zorba

    Yes. I am getting way more than tired of the tinfoil hat deniers of all kinds of tragedies.

  • Zorba

    We should get rid of the DEA, too, while we’re at it. Legalize, regulate, and tax drugs. Think how much money would be saved! No more DEA, as well as radically down-sizing our prisons because of all the drug dealers/offenders who would not be incarcerated.

  • Zorba

    Just think how rich we would have been if we had invested in the Reynold’s Aluminum company years go, nicho! We could have been part of the 1%………..

  • nicho

    Their lifestyle was way beyond what the average welfare recipient receives. Most welfare recipients can barely afford rent and groceries, never mind extended vacations to Russia, trips to NYC, college tuition and room and board.

  • http://www.facebook.com/zachary.smith.3914207 Zachary Smith

    I suppose we’ll have to disagree about that. IMO denying an awful event (caused by your sons) took place at all is an indication of denial approaching mental illness.

    Blowing off a horrid event (caused by your son) which you make no effort to deny – that’s evidence of a totally horrible person.

    That’s how I see it.

  • nicho

    I knew I should have bought more tinfoil stock.

  • Whitewitch

    Perhaps Bush knew – but a plane did in fact hit the Pentagon….sorry you are wrong there. Not sure about building 7 – that is odd – but odd things happen and are quite amazing. In DC on the day of the event and I can promise that a flying object – shaped like a plane did in fact hit the Pentagon!

  • Whitewitch

    HI emjayay – there is quite a bit of information out there about welfare support, Section 8 housing, etc. Generally, refugees are given these things when they first come to the US – so there is no shame in taking it to start/set-up a life in a new country. Seems however that they had support long beyond that and that even the elder deceased son and his wife were on welfare until 2012. This morning the Boston Governor or Mayor (you can google) announced no more information would be released about their “welfare status” because it is private – more likely it is embarrassing or they are worried it will stir up a hornet’s nest for others who really do need the support. So there is a lot of info out there re same.

  • karlInSanDiego

    John, very poor examples. No plane hit the Pentagon and Bush knew. These aren’t conspiracies. In the latter case, it’s the majority view. Don’t forget building 7. If you’re going to use examples of conspiracies that are false, please choose ones that were in ANY way proven false.

  • condew

    Yes, when “Misha” was teaching her sons his radical theology, and their father was concerned, she was the one who told him they were learning to be better Muslims.

    We really need to find and stop “Misha”.

  • Whitewitch

    Actually she is “pissing on the victims as Babs did”.

  • Whitewitch

    Exactly karmanot – criminals – not religious zealots – maybe even misfits – definitely criminals.

  • Whitewitch

    I agree – I don’t think they were radicalize – I think they were “rebels without a cause”. They were angry young men and didn’t have a real place to vent their frustration or a real way to fix the things that frustrated them (Goddess don’t I know that feeling) so they picked up on this cause and acted out against people that did nothing to them.

  • nicho

    Actually, it was the mother who told the sons to become more Muslim.

  • nicho

    And don’t forget the failed boondoggle Homeland Security. They fucked up big time on the Boston bombers. This is exactly what DHS was formed to prevent. Major fail! Also, DHS is supposed to monitor facilities with more than 400 pounds of ammonium nitrate. The West, Texas plant had 540,000 pounds and was never monitored. Quadruple major fail. It’s time to dismantle Bush’s failed DHS. Let’s save the money.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Markus-Hayden-Sutherland/1634126207 Markus Hayden Sutherland

    Wow, she must listen to Glen Beck and Rush Limbaugh talk radio!

  • Whitewitch

    I see no grief from this woman, I see no suffering for her sons…I see hate and anger and a need to be right. Sadly, perhaps this is what created the sons and their actions.

  • nicho

    But that’s what makes living in NH so much fun.

  • lynchie

    No sympathy for the mother. But we should not forget that other religions do a good job of brain washing. Westboro Baptist and their going to various funerals. Jim Jones, Waco, etc. The list goes on. I am in no waying making light of what was done and the full weight of our legal system needs to be thrown at them but I would not give the mother 1 second of air time to spew her bullshit and continue the misinformation so more like minded people fall prey to the bull shit. In America every asshole gets airtime. The news guy who cursed on air his first day was on Morning Joe sitting next to Tom Brokaw like a celebrity. He is unqualified to call a cattle auction let alone the news. I wonder if she is getting paid to be on the air and have her brand of horseshit thrown up for discussion. She has nothing to say, she failed as a mother and has no business back in this country unless she is facing the charges of shop lifting.

  • http://www.rebeccamorn.com/mind BeccaM

    I feel the same way about the radical capitalists, like the ones responsible for the West, Texas fertilizer plant explosion.

    At minimum, the owners and operators are guilty of criminally negligent homicide.

  • nicho

    You see grief. I see defiance and a lack of grief for the victims of her murderous spawn. I have a feeling that there aren’t a lot of people who want to hold her hand. She doesn’t come across as a very nice person.

  • http://www.facebook.com/zachary.smith.3914207 Zachary Smith

    I agree. Probably she never was in the “A+” category of mental stability. Anyhow, denial comes in different kinds of packages. The rich bitch Barbara Bush handled it this way.

    “Why should we hear about body bags and deaths? It’s not relevant. So why should I waste my beautiful mind on something like that?”

    Give the Tsarnaev woman some credit for a bit of decency – even if she is a nut. At least she’s not verbally pissing on the victims as Babs did.

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    Right, I consider the NRA a radical terrorist organization and don’t see them swarming with CIA and FBI investigations.

  • nicho

    There is a certain symmetry that the video security system that nailed her stealing from Lord & Taylor was the same one that got the video of her offspring planting the bombs.

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    Where did the money come from? drug dealing? Russian Mafia connections? The whole family are leeches, especially #1, living off his obedient wife, who worked 7 days a week to support him and his martial arts lessons.

  • nicho

    Can we stop saying radicalized. That plays into the corporatist media myth that all radicals are violent and potential murderers. I’m a radical and I’ve never done anything more violent than catch a mouse in a trap. These guys were a lot of things, but I don’t think we can call them “radicals” and leave it at that. If they had been radicalized, I would have expected to see more political action from them. They just found a cover for their lack of a moral center and violent tendencies.

  • Indigo

    That poor soul. She’s grieving and it’s painful to watch. Somebody over there needs to hold her hand for a while.

  • http://www.rebeccamorn.com/mind BeccaM

    If she limited her denial to holding on to the belief that the police must have the wrong suspects, I might be able to muster that slack-cutting.

    But to deny the bombing happened at all, that the entire thing was a hoax and there aren’t four dead people (including the Watertown police officer) and dozens who lost their feet and legs — graphic photos of which are nearly unavoidable on the Internet and from numerous reputable media sources — is a bridge too far.

  • http://www.rebeccamorn.com/mind BeccaM

    All in all, they sound like the kind of family one would not want to live near or be acquainted with.

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    Bad Babushka

  • http://twitter.com/Scytherius Jonas Grumby

    So that’s where the bomber discovered Alex Jones.

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    No slack. Has she once mentioned any empathy for the victims?

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    She was smart enough to shoplift from Lord and Taylor….er, well, she did get caught.

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    That’s not a dark place, but a chance to rub her sick face in the truth of tragedy and criminality.

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    “these guys are also victims of the ones who radicalized them.” Nope, I can’t rationalize that one. They chose to murder and terrorize. They are not victims, but criminals.

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    Balmy Babushkas

  • condew

    I’d say traveling back to your home country voluntarily is proof that you don’t need refugee status; its pretty close to proof that no one in your family should qualify as a refugee.

  • UncleBucky

    I can’t get the gruesome out of my mind. Neither can the victims, I am sure. We are all victims of these guys. But then, these guys are also victims of the ones who radicalized them. It’s a chain of events, whose root causes need to be investigated and finished like bin Laden. We are not done with this, and neither is the world. :(

  • UncleBucky

    Under some circumstances, yeah, I guess. Problem is that this woman is trying to “get” something for her outspokeness. If she comes here, she had better have good counsel. It’s not the same way as it is back home. — Or maybe it is, and she doesn’t realize that.

  • UncleBucky

    Or a severe lack of education, eh?

  • pappyvet

    Glen Beck has competition in the nutbag world.

  • samiinh

    Sadly, here in NH, we have state representatives who think the same delusional things.

  • loona_c

    Crazy is as crazy does. Yeah the blood was just paint and the gruesome photos of bones sticking out of legs was just photoshop.

  • emjayay

    I don’t see that that place is so dark.

  • emjayay

    I’ve been wondering about everything you discussed about them being professional leeches etc. I haven’t seen any reporting or analysis or for that matter speculation about all that. Like you said, besides living in an expensive area they did a lot of flying back and forth etc. Or for that matter anything about shoplifting arrest or whatever that was.

    According to the body shop guy, the sons weren’t as well financed as their friends. He said they (maybe just referring to the surviving one?) hung out with guys from Turkey (I think) who all drove Range Rovers etc.

  • http://www.rebeccamorn.com/mind BeccaM

    The denial runs deep to the very core of this one. I suppose we shouldn’t be surprised, but still… Ordinarily such denial runs in the direction of insisting that someone else must have made her sons do what they did, blackmailed them or something like that. Or possibly even to admit that it happened, but the authorities simply must have the wrong suspects. This though? To deny it even happened?

    There is a dark place in me that wants to show her the gruesomely graphic photographs of her sons’ victims after the bombs went off. The burned limbs, the gaping shards of bone, the severed legs and feet. Find some shirt or shredded rags now in the police evidence lockers, make her smell it and tell us it’s just paint. Take her to a Boston hospital and have her try to deny the reality of all those patients who will never walk again without prosthetic legs and feet.

  • nicho

    Cut her some slack

    No.

    I can understand a lot of emotions, but being an aggressive, accusatory bitch isn’t one of them. There are freaking still photos and video of her spawn planting a bomb. She’s cut from the same bolt of cloth as the douchebag aunt we saw on TV last week screaming the same tripe.

    These people are professional leeches. They came here as “refugees,” but spend an awful of time flying back and forth to the place they’re allegedly fleeing from. No word of any gainful employment on the part of anyone — except the American wife of Tamerlan — and yet they live a pretty well-financed lifestyle. There’s an apartment in an area of Cambridge where the rents start at $2,500 a month, cars, college tuition and room and board for the younger murderer, extended trips to Russia, martial arts lessons, partying, and, of course, the wherewithal to buy bombs, guns, etc. Something smells.

    Here’s a picture of the younger guy planting the bomb that killed the 8-year-old boy standing on the fence, blew the legs off his little sister, and seriously injured the mother. Show her that and tell her to STFU.

    https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/534003_4949031323679_2057082353_n.jpg

  • gaylib

    I see mental illness runs in the family.

  • http://www.facebook.com/michaeldavidbarber.moghul Michael David Barber Moghul

    Wonder if she shoplifted that ridiculous story as well?

  • Josh Yelon

    “Never underestimate the power of denial.”

    Cut her some slack: it’s the mom. She just lost both her sons. No way she’s going to be rational.

  • condew

    Whenever I wonder how a morally corrupt man got so twisted, I first look to his mother. This one failed 2 for 2.

  • http://www.facebook.com/elijah.shalis Elijah Shalis

    I guess Ma doesn’t know best.

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