Slave-loving pedophile-enablers send Obama a nastygram about gay immigration

2/6/2013 6:42pm by 28

Let’s all say it together now: No one cares what a church that to this day still hasn’t come clean on its enabling of pedophiles, and refuses to apologize for nearly a century of forcing 30,000 women in Ireland to serve as unpaid human slaves and only ended the practice in 1996, has to say about morality.

Hint: That would be you, Catholic Church.

The American Catholic Cardinals are quite upset at the President for suggesting that he will fix an immigration problem plaguing binational married gay in the immigration bill.  Because, God forbid we address an immigration issue in an immigration bill.

From AP:

But Catholic bishops, with the support of evangelicals and other theological conservatives, have sent a letter to Obama protesting his proposal. In a sign of the sensitivity of the issue, the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops would not provide a copy of the statement, saying the signatories agreed not to make the letter public. Sister Mary Ann Walsh, a spokeswoman for the bishops, would say only that recognition of gay couples in the president’s reform proposals “jeopardizes passage of the bill.”

As I’ve explained previously, married gay couples are not recognized by the federal government because of the Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA).  So married gay couples in which one spouse is not American find themselves in a difficult situation when the foreign-born spouse is told to get out of the country because they’re not legally married to an American.  The President has promised to fix this problem in the immigration, though Democratic Senators Schumer, Durbin, Menendez and Bennet already stabbed gays in the back by removing them from a bipartisan compromise released last week.

Catholic hypocrisy via Shutterstock

Catholic hypocrisy via Shutterstock

To no one’s surprise, the Catholic Church has teamed up with militant evangelical gay-haters in order to demand that the President drop gays from his immigration plan (I’d love to know if the Mormons signed the letter too).  As you know, the Catholic Church likes nothing better than hating on harming gays, unless of course they’re harming children, or women, or the homeless – or best option, all at once.

It would be nice if a politician would finally stand up to the Catholic Church and tell them: “With all due respect, I don’t need moral advice from people who enslaved women as recently as the 1990s, and who continue to enable pedophiles.”

It would also be nice if there were any kind of smart organized resistance against the Catholic cardinals, in order to stand up against the church when it gets on these moral crusades.  Imagine the placards one could wield (“I’m not a pedophile but my priest is”) to teach them a lesson that every time the Catholic Church decides to launch yet another moral Inquisition against gays, women, or anyone else, we will remind the world that this is an institution that has yet to apologize for literally holding 30,000 women hostage as unpaid human slaves, and who aided and abetted the systematic rape of small children during the same time period and continues to deny it, while attacking victims.

So yeah, the Catholic Church isn’t a fan of including gay couples in the immigration bill.  And I’m not a fan of slavery or raping small boys and girls.  So if the Catholic cardinals want to have a public debate on morality, oh please let’s do have it.

A little reminder of the morality we’re dealing with when negotiating with the Catholic Church:

How do you say “bite me” in Latin?

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  • http://www.catholic.com/ likeasaint

    Your obsession with sex abuse scandals in the Catholic Church coupled with your ability to ignore sex abuse elsewhere is intriguing.

  • gfd6754

    The Catholic Church certainly has no place defending decency considering the evil it has caused for so long. But I do agree that being a homo is sickening. It doesn’t matter if you find a way to condition the minds of millions to accept it. It is still by nature sickening. It has been considered so for thousands of years and nothing has changed. Only stupid minds. The foolish world is making its death bed already.

  • Ninong

    John,
    Here’s my prediction. The White House will back away from their suggestion that same-sex immigration be included in the new immigration bill. Remember, Barack Obama loves to “compromise” and he’s desperate for a chance to claim that anything passed with true bipartisan support.

    I just don’t trust them to insist on including same-sex immigration in the bill. The Catholic Church is making a really, really big stink about this and they do influence votes behind the scenes, in spite of the appearance some Catholic legislators try to put on in public.

    We’re getting back into the same mess that came up with funding for birth control, remember that one?

  • pappyvet

    The shame of it is that it’s not just the Catholic church. And the excuse”I never said we were perfect,just saved.” Is always present and ready to be fired like a gun at anyone that points out anything factual that may interfere with the over all myth. I could say that “god” lives in an amusement park on Betelgeuse,
    steal some atributes from earlier myths to give him{always a HIM] and there would be no way anyone could prove me wrong or that my religion deserves any less respect than any other. I dont have to prove a damn thing. And yes you have free will…of course if you dont believe you will end up being tortured for eternity but hey! think of the love!

    • Ninong

      According to the Mormons, he lives on a star named Kolob.

  • Ninong

    Pope Benedict’s Christmas message, just before this past Christmas, was a message of love and hope, provided you weren’t “living with same-sex attraction.” He dedicated his Christmas message to “promoting traditional family values.” He said people who eschewed their God-given gender identities to suit their sexual choices destroyed the very “essence of the human creature” in the process. “They deny their nature and decide that it is not something previously given to them, but that they make it for themselves.”

    Benedict quoted the Chief Rabbi of France who said the campaign for granting gays the right to marry and adopt children was an “attack” on the traditional family made up of a father, mother and children. He’s famous for using that trick. Remember when he quoted a 13th century philosopher who wrote some about Islam that the Pope himself truly believes but then he said, oh no, he was just quoting this random guy that he happened to come across. Because, you know, everybody spoke German in the 13th century and he just happened to read what this guy had to say about Islam and he found it interesting. And he’s sorry if you were offended by what that other guy wrote in the 13th century.

    Other famous descriptive adjectives used by Benedict in the past when speaking of “same-sex attraction,” their way of describing sexual orientation, have been “disordered” and “sexually dysfunctional.” But, hey, don’t get offended because he said he wasn’t talking about “persons,” he was only referring to the “acts.” He really means “sins,” but he says “acts” when he’s speaking to the unwashed masses. “Hate the sin, love the sinner.” That’s their favorite bullshit line.

    When it comes to “living with same-sex attraction,” I’ll give them credit for being experts on that. They know all about living with same-sex attraction. Remember, there’s nothing wrong with it, per se, as long as you never “act” on it. Of course, if you do act on it, just go to confession and all is forgiven and you can start over with a clean slate. That’s the way they do it.

    • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

      “He said people who eschewed their God-given gender identities to suit
      their sexual choices destroyed the very “essence of the human creature”
      in the process.” And, without irony, did not mention enforced celibacy.

      • Ninong

        Completely without irony, in spite of his special relationship with Bel Giorgio, while wearing his adorable bespoke red leather Prada slippers and while fully aware that he sleeps on $1,000 Pratesi sheets every night. No doubt he did it while being fully aware that he himself did everything in his power at the CDF to delay and deny any action on credible reports of widespread sexual misconduct within the Church. And that while Archbishop of Munich, he personally approved of sending a rapist priest to therapy, knowing full well that he would be returned to a parish within a few weeks where he might, and indeed did, rape again. He pretends that he only participated in the first part of that episode, the sending him to a therapist part.

        So yes, Papa Ratzi is an expert on denial. He has elevated it to an art form.

    • gfd6754

      Well it doesn’t matter what the Catholic Church thinks since it isn’t a legitimate Christian church. But gaydom is still sickening. It has proven itself throughout history to threaten important fundamental values set out for children. Just being around a man who believes its okay to suck a dick is enough to make a parent nervous. And yes, we are seeing tween boys begin to suck dicks thanks to liberalism in the schools. Anyone who thinks that homoISM isn’t having a negative impact on decency certainly isn’t paying attention. Else they are just a complete fool not to recognize it all.

      All people are born with a flaw. It is more obvious in some people. But all in all, we have burdens to overcome. The important thing is to maintain a moral stance while battling our own inner burdens. Just because a person is born wanting sex with children doesn’t mean we should call it natural and live and let live. The same goes for gays. They same goes for psychos. The list goes on.

      Homosexuals aren’t born. They are made. A person can be born with a hormonal disorder which is the cause of homosexual tendencies. It indeed affects physical growth, as well as thoughts and desires. But that doesn’t make it natural or intended. It’s called an ILLNESS. But because there is a strong political force trying to block the full revealing of this information on the masses, we continue to see the airheads of this world get duped by politics. No one can deny that thousands of years worth of wisdom and life have demonstrated just why living a gay life is wrong. It is a choice to rebel. To shun the values system that has been built. Gays don’t care about values unless it is their own. They believe people should be free and liberated from all external forces. They want to lay around in piles, moaning for one another. They want children to do the same. They don’t care. Live and let live. The parade naked. They carry on with detestable behavior in public. This is all to rebel from what is right. And to do such things knowing that children will be watching. That is the same as intent to corrupt. They cannot be trusted. They should not. They are ILL. It is no different than if I was born with an inflated sexual desire for the opposite sex. Should I go around trying to have sex with as many women as I can find? Not caring if they are married? Not caring if they are underage? Gays have no morals. No boundaries. They just lust after one another in a way that isn’t normal for straight people. Yes. There are some deviant straights out there. But they certainly aren’t the majority. And we wanna keep it that way. Children are the number one priority in a normal person’s life. And that includes unborn children.

  • Ninong

    “…a spokeswoman for the bishops, would say only that recognition of gay couples in the president’s reform proposals “jeopardizes passage of the bill.”

    Why? Is that a threat? Are they going to refuse Communion to any Catholic who votes in favor of the President’s bill, just as some of them have done with Catholic politicians who support abortion? They’re already preaching that Catholics have a responsibility to not vote for anyone who supports abortion.

    Catholics haven’t paid attention to anything the Church has had to say about contraception for decades and the majority of them totally ignore the Vatican’s ‘official’ position on a woman’s right to choose, in-vitro vertilization, stem-cell research and same-sex marriage.

  • Mark_in_MN

    Last year during the campaign in Minnesota about the proposed (and thankfully defeated) anti-marriage amendment, the Archbishop claimed that their support for the amendment was not a campaign against anyone; that all people should be able to visit loved ones in the hospital, have access to housing and employment, pass along property to whoever they wish, etc.; that persons “living with same-sex attraction are beloved children of God who must be accepted with respect, compassion and sensitivity” and thus “every sign of unjust discrimination in this regard must be avoided.”

    It rung hollow then, and still does. Even more so in the light of the reported contents conveyed to President Obama. This letter from the Catholic hierarchy about including binational gay and lesbian couples in immigration reform simply proves the lie that Archbishop Nienstedt was trying to pass off to Minnesotans. It’s clear that the political program the current crop of Catholic bishops have embarked on is not merely about “preserving” marriage or whatever nonsense they try to put forth in that regard, but about seeking after returning to a cultural and legal environment which harms and makes life difficult for gay and lesbian individuals and couples for the sake of simply harming and making life difficult.

    BTW, note the language that Nienstedt had used, people “living with same-sex attraction” as if it were cancer or some chronic disease. Pretty telling right there, even if he is trying to make out to be conciliatory and respectful.

    • http://www.rebeccamorn.com/mind BeccaM

      Concur.

      Respect, compassion, and sensitivity doesn’t break up families, or keep them on opposite sides of national borders. Or deny gay couples the right to have children. Or allow people to be fired or denied housing just for being gay.

      Yet the RCC and its fundamentalist allies claim they’re acting from a motivation of love. ‘Love’ which requires that people suffer, so their archaic — and fallacious — definitions of morality can be satisfied.

      It’s hate, nothing less, when they declare that being gay is akin to a chronic disease, a moral flaw.

  • http://www.rebeccamorn.com/mind BeccaM

    I’m appalled, dismayed, and disgusted.

    In the holy name of the Flying Spaghetti Monster, how the fuck is it immoral or morally objectionable for an American adult to sponsor permanent residency for a same-sex spouse? Why does the Church and all its homophobic bigot friends get to break up existing families, forcing them to choose between their country and being together, just because these bigots don’t approve of gay people?

    Once again: What about all the other religions which have no objection to LGBTs? Where’s the respect for their beliefs? What about all the people who don’t belong to any organized religion or are agnostics or atheists? And why is it a bigoted religious minority gets to dictate civil law?

    Worse, they don’t even have the courage to tell everyone what was in their precious “keep teh geys out, k tks bai” letter to the president? They won’t stand up and tell us why it’s so important to keep gay-headed families apart that they’ll get together and pen a secret letter?

    Is it possible the word they used — ‘sensitivity’ — is code for cowardice and shame?

    I ask: How is it moral to keep families apart? This isn’t even acknowledgment of same-sex marriage rights (although we should have them). It’s just acknowledging the thing that no law can deny, and that’s the freedom of association for two consenting adults to create a family. Or is the Catholic Church now claiming ‘family’ is a sanctified thing that only they get to define, just like civil marriage?

    You’re right, John, and I’m glad you’ve got your game-face on with this. The Roman Catholic Church and its fundamentalist Christian allies have NO moral authority on this or just about any other issue.

  • EdA

    The Catholic cardinals, bigots, and archbigots will have much more credibility if Bernard Cardinal Law returns — or “self-deports” himself — to the U.S. to explain their position himself — in court.

  • olandp

    Every time the “church” tries to lecture us on morality we need to yell…

    • 2patricius2

      You got that right.

    • gfd6754

      The Catholic Church may not. But parents do. Especially when the fags are running around in naked parades, licking one another, knowing that children are watching. I call that intent to corrupt. Anyone who would do such a thing is a piece of trash that should be flattened by a street roller and sent to the city dump. My number one priority in this world is to give my children what they need and to protect them from anything that they don’t need. As well, I also need to protect the unborn child that sleeps in my wife’s body. Do you think a gay cares about those things? You think it’s their number one priority? NOT A CHANCE. They want to design and create their own way of life. And they want the right to railroad ours to do so. They inflict their ways upon the masses without any thought of consequence. There can be no morality in a gay life. A gay life is a self indulgent one. And that is contrary to the traditional teachings to children.

      It doesn’t matter what political parties believe. There are a very large number of silent parents in this world that will NEVER support fags. And we will smack down any one we see acting stupid in public. It is my duty to protect my kids. If a fag doesn’t like it, they can move to another county. I don’t go kissing on my wife in public or anything else to give anyone the ability to make implications about me. But gays are different. They love to flaunt their ways. They live for it. They lust out loud. They stare. And they love underage subjects. They have no morals.

      Little gets said about the millions of closet gays who stay silent because they believe the way they feel is wrong. It is often a hardship for them. But alot of people have a rough life. It isn’t a crime to have it hard. Its how you deal with it that matters. I live in poverty. But I make the best of it. Not for myself. But for my family. How many gays do you know would hide their defect for the sake of others? The more of these people that get brainwashed into believing that they should accept and promote their desires, the more corrupt this culture will become. Full of materialistic, self absorbed brats who have no spirituality. Just lust for flesh. That’s all.

      • olandp

        Parades of fags running around naked licking on each other? I want to go to that one, where is it?

        You can’t be too poor, you have a wife and children but can afford a computer and internet service so that you can spew your filth and hatred. You should probably just stay at World Net Daily, where you and your sister, I mean wife are more comfortable.

  • http://buddybest.tripod.com/index.html BuddyNovinski

    In 1992, I applied to be a BIg Brother, and some nun was asking me a whole host of questions about my political stands. She LIED and told me that it was to match such opions to families of the Little Brothers. Fortunately, I’d already left the Catholic Church, else I’d have done it then. My stand on legal abortions and gay adoptions has not bearing on being a Big Brother. So much for faith-based social services!

    • gfd6754

      Social services aren’t “faith based”. Responsible caretakers of children must take a proactive stance to protect the interests of children. It is far easy to send a child down a path of liberation and homosexuality than it is to give them a path of humility and selflessness. If you support gaydom and murdering of unborn life, then I can see why they don’t want you anywhere near a child. I certainly wouldn’t want you near my kids. They need to be around people who respect life and care more about others than themselves. You are not that kind.

  • kingstonbears

    I don’t understand how they are keeping their tax exemption. Weighing in on immigration issues has absolutely nothing to do with religious believes and practices. Time they paid their damn share of taxes.

  • pauldem

    Mordere me

    • Ninong

      Te pedicabo.

  • samiinh

    IMHO, the catholic church is the most evil institution ever created by man to control other men, both in the body and the mind. For 2000 years, this evil has been the cause of the world’s greatest wars, bigotry and death.

    • UncleBucky

      Well, probably since Paul… That would make it 1,968 years. But yeah, 2,000 years is close! ;O)

      • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

        What dark beast slouches toward Bethlehem?

    • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

      wow

    • http://www.facebook.com/gamelan9 Scott E Conlan

      …control “other men” and WOMEN, I would add. After all, when was the last time you saw a female Catholic priest?

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