Sandy Hook truthers claim the Newtown massacre was a hoax

Yes, there are now Sandy Hook truthers who think the mass-murder of 20 children in Newtown, Connecticut was a hoax.

They are people who find a government, or Jewish, conspiracy behind what did, or did not, take place on December 14, 2012 in Newtown, Connecticut when 20 six and seven year olds were mass murdered by a young man using his mother’s legally-purchased weapons.

Some of the conspiracy theories center around which weapons the shooter used (the Sandy Hook truthers even have a Twitter account, of course).  As if it matters which weapon he used.  But some think it’s a whopping Feinstein/Biden conspiracy to “fake” the fact that an AR-15 rifle was used in the attack.  They claim that the shooter, Adam Lanza, “only” used handguns to shoot each child three times before moving on to the next.  To that I say: the kids are still dead.  And honestly, if it was “just” handguns, and not semit-automatic rifles, then let’s ban all of them.  I’m not sure how it helps the gun-nut cause to claim that this was “only” about handguns.

There’s also a Sandy Hook conspiracy theory about the entire shooting not having occurred at all.  A sort of Sandy Hook Capricorn One version of what happened – the entire thing, you see, was a hoax:

sandy hook hoax truther fake conspiracysandy hook hoax truther fake conspiracysandy hook hoax truther fake conspiracy

If you actually believe this garbage, then maybe you shouldn’t have the right to own a gun in the first place.

(And personally, I’d have found the entire script more compelling if the words floated off the screen backwards, Star Wars style.)

Another Sandy Hook conspiracy theory is raging around the testimony of a neighbor who says a small group of children came to his house seeking shelter from the shooting. A video posted on YouTube attempts to show that the man is a fake and a liar, mostly because his story is consistent in every interview he gives (ironic that the “proof” that he’s lying is that he doesn’t change his story).

A number of the comments posted alongside the YouTube video share the ultimate proof as to how we know this guy is lying.  You see, his name is Gene Rosen, and everyone knows that “Rosens” are J-e-w-i-s-h (each line break below is for a new comment):

The whole thing was staged. don’t let the Jews disarm you America.

Maybe he really did think that the shooter was going to turn the children in to soap and lampshades and then burn them with gas pipes!

Yes, when in doubt, go for the Holocaust gag.

Oy vey jew porn king Al Goldberg HATES all the gentiles!

Oy vey…where there is suffering there is always a jew, always….

Mr Rosen is apart of he Jewish mafia, the same Jewish mafia that brought us 9/11. Just read their Kabbalah, Zohar, Talmud and you can see what they’re all about. This is the synagogue of satan the bible refers too REV2:9. Newtown is heavily influenced by satanism. Satanism is Judaism

“And then the little tiny child looked me right in the eyes and he said “You’re one of God’s Chosen Chosenites aren’t you? You look little a Tiny Babby Jeebus because Babby Jeebus was jOoIsH.”

You can now comment on Gene Rosen’s song just as long as you light a Hanukkah candle beforehand.

They’re also quite upset that he keeps using the same words to describe what happened – in other words, that he isn’t changing his story:

Anytime a person repeats the same line over and over again it;s because it was a memorized line, totally fake, never happened!

Or, perhaps he keeps repeating the same thing every time he’s asked about it because, uh, it’s true.  Imagine what they’d say if his story werent’ consistent each time he told it.

Oh, and he’s apparently a free mason too:

Light and dark…ugh that turns my stomach. The Masons are all into light and dark, black and white, like the checkerboard floors they have. Light for the illumination, sun, Satan, lucifer the light bearer, wisdom, blah blah blah. That’s how I know he’s coached. Nobody talks like that, and the odds of two ‘witnesses’ at different shootings doing so? Masons signal each other with secret signs, like that hand inside the vest pose. This is just an extension of that. It’s what they do. FWIW

Lots more crazy, including the “Sandy Hook was all a government plot” theory:

After the gun grab, the human rights grab will continue inexorably, by the 1% economic elite, achieving the stated goal of eliminating 95% of the Earth’s population, identical to the numerous genocides this century, totaling as many as 100 million people; trust God, that when your life is taken, you will be positioned in eternal Heaven, to witness the Godless liars, thieves, and murderers witnessing you, as they enter the torment of eternal Hell.

Damn this guy is a pedophile. I rather have my kids stay back the school than with this freak

Well, he’s either just some crazy old man who got on tv because shit like that sells, or it’s scripted. But there is no way he is telling the truth. Why would a school bus driver take the kids just half a block down from the school and leave them in the hands of a stranger, instead of going straight to the police or at least the fire station which is visible right behind this nut job’s house.

THEY DID THIS WHOLE THING ON PURPOSE JUST FOR US TO BE CONSIDER NUTTS FOR SPREADING THE TRUTH AND FOR PEOPLE BLIND LIKE THE GOV. NUTHUGGERS START THIS FIGHT WITH US, SO WHILE THEY SPREAD THIS CHAOS THEY CAN DO WHATEVER THEY WANT, BECAUSE WE’RE DIVIDED!

WHY WOULD ANYONE THINK YOU’RE NUTS?

He’s the worst actor I’ve ever seen.

I thought the Robbie Parker character was the worst actor but I now believe Gene has managed to overtake him. Uggg, so difficult to watch this guy. Crybaby fake acting.

That is quite a performance. Was he really a neighbor? I am really curious to what is his connection to this terrible tragedy.

What a crappy actor

the only question I have is where are all of the tears, if these people are so upset about the many people that died, why aren’t they actually crying? because it’s fake that’s why

He used to work at Screen Actors Guild too. Coincidence? I also find it amazingly astounding that SO many people are figuring out all the lies so quickly. I’m impressed. It seems more and more people all the time are waking up, all around the world.


Follow me on Twitter: @aravosis | @americablog | @americabloggay | Facebook | Instagram | Google+ | LinkedIn. John Aravosis is the Executive Editor of AMERICAblog, which he founded in 2004. He has a joint law degree (JD) and masters in Foreign Service from Georgetown; and has worked in the US Senate, World Bank, Children's Defense Fund, the United Nations Development Programme, and as a stringer for the Economist. He is a frequent TV pundit, having appeared on the O'Reilly Factor, Hardball, World News Tonight, Nightline, AM Joy & Reliable Sources, among others. John lives in Washington, DC. .

Share This Post

409 Responses to “Sandy Hook truthers claim the Newtown massacre was a hoax”

  1. niico100 says:

    How is the new season of American idol pop star celebrity on Kardashian ice by the way? Good yeah? Lap it up….

  2. niico100 says:

    What have I said that requires psychiatric help?

    That people should question everything? That the media IS controlled by a very small number of individuals? That the security services routinely infiltrate the media (so much evidence of this).

    Rather than empty insults – try and think for yourself slave.

  3. Mark C says:

    Take a step back yourself and get psychiatric counseling.

  4. Mark C says:

    No, moron, for being a batsh1t crazy imbecile like yourself.

  5. Mark C says:

    Get psychiatric help, you sad, sad little half-wit.

  6. Mark C says:

    Actually, you pathetic half-wit, you need to get a brain.

  7. Mark C says:

    Moron.

  8. AK47 says:

  9. AK47 says:

    And all your baseless comments here make you a worthless troll.

  10. AK47 says:

    troll

  11. AK47 says:

    For what.. using his brain a little and wanting to know the truth?

  12. JCH says:

    The morgue guy seemed very out of it, no video camera footage, Robbie Parker LAUGHING right before his fake tear interview and the bizarre change-my-story-ten times guy who said he found the kids on his driveway……but the most intriguing was the principal of the school saying ‘he knew something like that was going to happen soon” ???? Also the creepy picture of Robbie Parker smiling as he drove away…..most people would’ve been prostrate with grief but not him.

  13. Alvin Colon says:

    Um…. I live in Ct. and work with Dawn Hochsprung’s daughter at Post University in Waterbury Ct. Trust me… She’s dead.

  14. OPEN YOUR EYES says:

    Everybody has heard the phrase “Never judge a book by it’s cover”. That is how people should look at this situation. Most murders are committed by people that you would never expect. When interviewed family, friends, and neighbors say they never would have thought that person could commit such a crime, but they did. You would be a shallow person to believe everything the government and media says is true. We’ve seen corrupt government in other countries because we see it from an outsiders prospective. Take a step back and look at ours for a minute.

  15. aaronsingleton says:

    get fucked now.

  16. aaronsingleton says:

    get fucked.

  17. aaronsingleton says:

    16 of the homes near the Lanza’s place were gifted to their current owners on Christmas day ’09. That’s what we know so far. Sure there are more.

  18. bigfatfatty says:

    ur dumb

  19. momwithafamily says:

    wheres the 600 kids and their families at in this???? are they in the fema camps?? why havent they came forward to talk about their experience???

  20. niico100 says:

    You’re right – just sit back and suck up what you’re told to believe by a very small number of news outlets – largely controlled by a handfull of people.

    Never question anything. Do as you’re told. Consume your reality tv like a good slave. Do what your government tells you – your government whose congress and president are chosen not based on their values, but by their ability to raise money, by their ability to do what rich individuals and company lobbyists want.

    You are living in a dream world Mark C. But perhaps it’s best for some people to stay in the matrix…

  21. Mark C says:

    Get psychiatric help now.

  22. Mark C says:

    Get help.

  23. Mark C says:

    No, half-wit, BEING A CONSPIRACY THEORIST makes you a conspiracy theorist. Get help.

  24. Mark C says:

    Get psychiatric help.

  25. Jojo says:

    The parents didn’t get to see the bodies. All caskets were closed at the funeral. The medical certificates have been sealed indefinitely for no apparent reason other than privacy (?). The bodies supposedly were left in the school for one whole day, and night before being removed. The only known person to have seen the bodies is the coroner, who refuses to release details of the autopsies and has been evasive, vague and acting strangely in his interviews with the press.

    Regardless of all the facts above, which parent would accept to bury his child without wanting to see him? And which parent would accept to leave the body of a child unattended in the school one full day and night without at least wanting absolute certainty that the child is actually deceased? And why is nearly every parent acting oddly and near cheerful on the very day of this supposed massacre?

    something is not right. something is not right – any sane parent would think this odd.

    John Aravosis if you’re honest with yourself you know that something is odd

  26. George Potulov says:

    Haha, we already much of our freedom taken away from us.. Great observation!

  27. George Potulov says:

    His stupidity really makes me question whether he is working for someone..

  28. George Potulov says:

    Couldn’t have said it better myself. Nice job!

  29. syd says:

    what the hell do the Jewish People have to do with it? The reason why people say it was “only” hand guns is because our administration is trying to ban ar-15s and anything that caries more than 10 rounds. Well why would they do that? Do you know why the 2nd amendment was made? So we can bare arm against our government if they try to take us over (I.E become socialists) well how hard would it be to defend our selves against them if we “only” had hand guns that held ten rounds? They come in with automatic riffles… you know how hard? Impossible. Obama’s law of banning these guns did not pass. So what did he do? He bought up all the amo. So much so that even our military doesn’t have enough… So now, why don’t you think real hard on why this could be a fake story.
    The government works for us as a people. We don’t work for them. They are over taking us and turning our country into fearful infants, desperately in need of their aid. Use your brains, don’t believe anything ANYONE tells you. Look it up for yourself. research. Our country is so dependent and ignorant.

  30. Robert Jones says:

    This is a good video. Long… But thoroughly informative. There is no sway. The presentation allows for the individual to make up their own mind. It’s nearly 3 hours long.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkZ9HnMLKXg

  31. Robert Jones says:

    The .223 Bushmaster was found in the trunk of the car. Their is video footage of this. Were there two long rifles or did the cops confiscate the one inside the school and plant it in the trunk–or vice-versa?
    Every element to this case has a very clear counter point. A very arcane story.

  32. Robert Jones says:

    They need to get sliced? Hypocrisy any? Are you not complaining of murdering people? So due to free speech outside your viewpoint deserves a slicing and dicing?

    Join the Marines if you’ve got the balls…
    Time for people to start using integrity. Do you want the truth or lies—whether your side is wrong or not–whatever that side maybe?
    You can’t lead without being accountable. I thought Marines were dumb… You make us Jarhead’s look like rocket scientists!

  33. urbanrocker says:

    Actually, plenty of people are claiming nobody died.

  34. niico100 says:

    Why does any discussion like this have to be shrouded in ‘conspiracy theorists’ vs ‘everyone else’.

    There’s no such thing as ‘Conspiracy Theorists’. There’s the truth – and that’s what, I assume, everybody wants. Asking reasonable questions does not make someone a ‘Conspiracy Theorist’. That is a label invented by people who want to control the message.

    People should question everything – and be able to have an intelligent debate. Questioning what the mainstream media – owned by a small elite with their own agenda (this is a fact) – is a healthy part of democracy.

    If you name call these people CT’s, you’re part of the problem. There may not be anything untoward about Sandy Hook – but just take each point and disprove it – and keep your mind open because it’s not as if Governments, media and ruling elites have never tried to fool the masses is it.

  35. corriesaurausa says:

    You guys are friekin idiots…..It did happen you guys are sickos if you wanna watch a video of 26 people dying!! I mean really who does!! Oh yeah that’s right NO ONE okay listen it did happen people don’t eNt to let parents see their dead child with more than 15 bullets in their bodies no one wants to see a video of kids burnt shot to death!! You guys can believe what you want but think why you wanna see 26 people bieng shot. And if you still wanna see people shot then you need to think some more. If I was that little girl who pretended to be shot yes I would act calm because if I didn’t I wouldn’t even be able to speak or anything I would act calm so I can say what happened that day not wait 5 months to calm down then tell the story.

  36. Yohr Maeker says:

    Yes, those conspiracy videos are hokey, and I was very bothered by the shootings upon hearing of them. However, there is still no direct evidence of the shooting. You look up columbine and any other school shooting there are tons of pictures and video evidence of gunmen in the school, injured and dead being wheeled out of the buildings. We don’t need to see pictures of dead children and video of them being shot repeatedly, but with the security feed in the school it would not be hard to put out SOMETHING, Adam Lanza in the school with a gun in hand, getting into the school? ANYTHING. Interviews are very sketchy, especially the chief medical examiner, they heard bangs but not in rapid succession, no screaming, they were told to close their eyes when leaving the school even though there was nothing to see outside, no one knew what to say on camera and most of the time children didn’t know what to say to the camera at all, none of the interviewees could cry tears even at their funerals, helicopter footage is not of sandy hook school grounds or shot in the morning. This is the first conspiracy that I believe has any credibility to it.

  37. nick toth says:

    btw, even if it was really an actuall shooting like columbine, its anti depressants. Plenty of doctors have said on the record that these things can cause this. So you…mr wimpy liberal prick, if you really care about stopping shootings, why don’t you write about ssri’s?For christ sake! it says right on the back of the bottle “may cause suicidal or homicidal thoughts” Why doesn’t the media point this out? SPONSORS time warner is sponsored by pharmaceutical corporations, time warner owns HBO (which is really why bill maher stopped going on anti-pharma rants), CNN, fox, and many other outlets. Stop pushing your anti-gun agenda. Left wing, right wing, libertarian,liberal, it doesn’t matter. Big money runs shit, plain and simple, parties might as well not exist. So stop pushing for your stupid “perfect” world, where everyone is vegan,has no guns,and drives priuses.

  38. nick toth says:

    wow. Typical yellow journalism flaws. You, along with every other person commenting, actually don’t know anything. Your only response to that is “this is garbage” yes, like religious people who can’t handle the facts about life, they repeat this stupid “just cant be true” stupidity. The media is obviously controlled, for christ sake, all they talk about is “heroes of the tragedy” or ” helping to family in their grieviances.” If you’re going to be a good journalist, you shouldn’t add your own personal opinions, just facts and counter arguments. If you want to play down historical facts, and the fact that governments have admitted to controlling the mass media (ie project mockingbird) and the fact that our government has staged false flag attacks and taken the people who were “victims” back to the country in secret (ie operation northwoods). Its okay though, because CNN just doesn’t like to talk about that! Go back to bed folks, watch american gladiators, continue to talk about how great america is until the rich leave you with nothing but a dime. You are free, to do as they tell you. You don’t know the truth, because…haha…like all others who say they “know” everything about it, weren’t there at the scene. You haven’t seen the footage, or pictures, or bodies, just like the public. Another victim of the american okiedoke! You dont know the truth-its called the american dream, because you have to be asleep to believe it, like all other dreams haha! Please..spare me the “crazy shut-off-from-society tin foil hat” conspiracy theorist crap. You don’t know what the senators on the intelligence commitee are planning! (by the way,a few days ago, the principal who was “killed” at sandy hook, was reported ON THE NEWS and showed the SAME PICTURE OF HER to have been injured in the boston explosion, its on facebook)

  39. Marc Phila says:

    what the heck is going on here? this is the most disgusting story i have ever read. 20 children gets their head blowns off and someone actually starts this nonsense?

  40. I want to know who are the sob’s making this stuff up because they need to get sliced. How dare you insult these families by saying that this was faked? God forbid that anyone in my family goes through something like this for some conspiracy nutjobs to tell me that it was faked. If I were any of these families I would hunt you down for insulting the memory of my child. I’m tired of these idiots thinking that the government is out to get them. Do you seriously think a few automatic weapons are going to stop the government from shredding you to bits? Ha! You are the real idiot! If the government really wants to get you they will get you whether you have a thousand guns or one. Honestly I firmly believe that these people should be accused of treason because this is how revolutions start. Why don’t you go to some third world country and see how you like government action over there.

  41. SICKKK says:

    wow YEAH LETS BAN ALL GUNS CAUSE A COUPLE CARZY PEOPLE SHOOT UP SOME PLACES… WHY DONT WE BAN FORKS BECAUSE FAT ASSES EAT TOO MUCH ALSO.

  42. Susan Lee says:

    dont be stupid! the families and anyone at that school knew who died that day dont be in idiot!

  43. Susan Lee says:

    come to sandy hook happened facebook page it has facts the shot out glass bullet holes pictures and you can see two dead bodies removed from the school google it its there come on now people its all there stop pretending the shooting did not happen you all know it did!!!!!!!

  44. Susan Lee says:

    you are correct

  45. Susan Lee says:

    if you come on facebook check out the sandy hook happened page it shows evidence that the shooting occured

  46. Susan Lee says:

    actually they have claimed they did not happen as well the conspiracy people are nuts!

  47. which is what the MSM is guilty of as well. gulf war jako footage? blue screens cnn? what have YOU seen in the way of physical proof that allows you to be so COCK sure that this actually happened at all..you have nothing but slightly better grammar than most but sadly? you come up short on content, you have nothing but what MSM told you. you’re a parrot for MSM and nothing more

  48. BUT THEN..you CAN’T PROVE YOUR BELIEFS…SO what’s YOUR point?

  49. did YOU see anything? that’s the whole point so, DID YOU? or did you just see what we all saw WHICH WAS NOTHING WE SAW NOTHING WE CAN PROVE NOTHING BY SEEING NOTHING!

  50. who’s wearing the tin today? you are! you have not one shred of proof that backs up your msm parroted claim that even one murder happened in that school no evidence at all..so where do you go from here..try researching!! do it for yourself. that thing you’re staring at getting all pissed at me does more than just porn vids and bad comedy shows.. use it and do some fact checking THEN maybe comment but taking MSM at full value is moronic at this point. again? you have NOTHING in the way of proof just hearsay from a known corrupt source which is MSM in GENERAL! cnn is the worst but all of them used about the same script..and rosen? he tells no less than 8 lies I what? YEP! I fact checked him and I can say with confidence that that guy is a real liar. I mean but MSM even knew it look at nancy grace’s face when she interviews him lol worth the time it takes to search for it ..it’s a scam.

  51. HOW ABOUT ALL REAL EVIDENCE. not one pic of one dead person not even of the now hated mrs. lanza again you’re parroting back what MSM told you..but that isn’t proof of anything you can’t prove a conspiracy theorist wrong because they can’t prove you right. neither can you lol you’ve been HAD don’t worry some others have as well but not many

  52. how do you know what video system they had or didn’t have? you’re just brainwashed or feel it’s your special duty to lend credence to MSM networks..you got NUTHIN not on shred of real evidence not one dead body not even of the hated ms lanza you have NOTHING!

  53. how we’ve been told” who told you cnn? msm in general? the same cnn and nsm that lied to you over and over and over again during the gulf war THAT MSM? so you have nothing but parrot talking points..you have nuthin’ you r post proves nuthin NOT A DAMNED THING AND BECAUSE msm IS YOUR PROOF LOL YOU SHOULDN’T HAVE EVEN BOTHERED TO POST.

  54. what are you even talking about? you make no sense other than letting the dopers out of jail and let into more appropriate rehab who carries a gun for no reason? it’s for personal protection and millions own one for that reason..sorry that you don’t approve I don’t “approve either but it’s THEIR business pal

  55. how about all of them hold inconsistencies none prove even ONE murder happened

  56. A) The massacre was over so quickly that no photographers had a chance to arrive. By the time the media arrived, the front entrance had already been shielded from public view by the Police (two people were shot there, so there would be blood and other nasty images).
    The only photos that exist of the interior of Sandy Hook after the shooting are the Police’s property, therefore they would’ve been used in the Official Investigation…it is unlikely that they’ll ever be made publicly available.

    B) The CCTV footage would’ve shown images of terror, blood and children dying…of course those images won’t be shown publicly. Again the CCTV footage would’ve been seized by Police and used in their investigation. We have no need to see that gruesome footage.

    C) Parents weren’t allowed to see their children’s bodies because of how badly disfigured they were. Some of the children were shot 11 times with a semi-automatic rifle…their bodies would’ve been damaged almost beyond recognition! If I was a parent, I wouldn’t want to see my child in that terrible condition.

    There is no Sandy Hook conspiracy, a deranged youth shot 27 people dead! FACT

  57. not to mention Adamn Lanza “fell off the grid” and nobody seen him since 2009??? WEIRD

  58. Sandy Hook is really strange…….no body seen evacuating, no kids, no injured people, helicopter footage of people just walking around in circles doing nothing, memorial pages posted days before the actuall shooting, Gene Rosen’s story changes EVERYTIME he tells it, parents never shed ONE tear during interviews, reports changed on what guns were used numerous times, DEC 14th but no CHRISTMAS decorations up anywhere at the school, NO SECURITY CAMERA FOOTAGE?? Something is really strange about Sandy Hook, strange indeed

  59. Leave a m

    Evidence: Sandy Hook
    School Shooting Staged by Factions of US Government and Mainstream Media?

    It is a sad day in
    America as new evidence has come forth showing that everything we were told
    about the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting was a lie and that, possibly
    factions, within our own government and mainstream media were complicit in
    staging the atrocity to possibly strip constitutional rights from American
    citizens by banning firearms.

    By Shepard Ambellas

    theintelhub.com

    January 9, 2013

    Tuesday I was
    reviewing information sent in by reader tips on the Sandy Hook (Newtown, CT)
    school shooting.

    As I was
    cross-referencing other reports that we have done, an extremely dark, cold
    feeling ran down my spine — to me it was confirmed. My original suspicions came
    all flooding into my mind as more pieces of the puzzle fell into place.

    First of all I would
    like to preface this article by stating that I personally feel that this
    Newtown, CT shooting case and some details within is one of the hairiest
    stories if not the most dangerous story we have covered in depth aside from the
    BP Oil Spill of 2010.

    In fact, most of the
    media and even alternative media are not covering certain aspects of this case
    which deserve to be highlighted. In my opinion the information about the
    possible shooters being disguised as nuns is groundbreaking. Please take the
    time to read this entire essay.

    Here is a recap of
    Ambellas’ report;

    Newtown Police: ‘Two
    Occupants with Ski Masks, One May be Wearing a Nun Outfit’

    Note: On December
    14, 2012, Shepard Ambellas reported the following;

    A caller on the Alex
    Jones show Friday (the day of the shooting) gave a report from Newtown that he
    was in a bowling alley before 10 AM (before the shootings took place)
    signifying that the school population was possibly held artificially low Friday
    as a possible militarized operation took place.

    The caller has also
    stated that an unverified rumor is circulating amongst the school staff that
    the shooters were described to be disguised ”organized group of
    nuns”infiltrated the school property to carry out the shootings leaving at
    least 26 dead at an elementary school Friday.

    Now evidence has
    come forth that correlates with school staff claims that the shooters were
    “disguised group of nuns” in a shocking audio capture of Newtown Police
    operations on the morning of the shooting.

    By Shepard Ambellas

    theintelhub.com

    December 23, 2012

    NEWTOWN, CONECTICUT
    — It has now been verified in an audio clip reviewed bytheintelhub.com that, at
    the very least, police officers on the day of the shooting believed that there
    were multiple suspects fleeing the scene in a purple van wearing ski masks and,
    possibly, nun outfits.

    UPDATE: January 9,
    2013 — The following police audio (YouTube) has been pulled along with a
    plethora of other videos (in the last 24 hours) which show in a massive
    coordinated effort to fool the American people as the Sandy Hook shootings were
    likely staged.

    Take a listen for
    yourself.

    At 1:34:19 into the
    video, “Two occupants with possible ski masks”.

    At 1:35:07 into the
    video, “One may be wearing a nun outfit, headed toward Danbury and Stoney Hill,
    purple van”.

    Update: Reader
    submitted actual audio again.

    What bothers me most
    about the fact that the (above) police scanner audio was taken down is the fact
    that it coincides with several other key, videos, audio, tweets, Facebook
    posts, and more that have been mysteriously taken down in the last 24 hours. I heard
    this audio for myself as did many others. The transcript is available above.

    After further
    investigation I have noticed key details of the crime emerge that are just
    uncanny to say the least. In fact, I don’t even know what to make of it as my
    brain has been on information overload with all of the other stuff I am busy
    with right now.

    However, this issue
    is too important to fly under the radar. Bottom line, we need a massive
    independent investigation into the entire shooting.

    On the very day of
    the shooting, the Chicago Tribune posted the following headline reading simply,
    “Elementary School Shooting”.

    What kind of
    headline is this? What could this article be about? It sounds more like an
    optimized search engine term rather than an article headline on a popular
    mainstream newspapers website. But even more creepy was what the body of the
    article read and the photo it contained.

    Simply;

    ( Don Emmert, Getty
    Images / December 14, 2012 )

    Two unidentified
    nuns leave the scene of the aftermath at Sandy Hook Elementary School in
    Newtown, Connecticut. At least 27 people, including 18 children, were killed.

    It literally reads
    “Two unidentified nuns leave the scene…”. However what stands out to me the
    most is the fact that the nuns look very official. In fact they look so
    official they even have blatant identification badges.

    To me this signifies
    a totally staged photo op also posted in conjunction on a major news website to
    play as a cover if the (militarized) shooters were to be made or identified by
    authorities or eyewitnesses as the teachers described and as police audio details.

    However we are
    merely scratching the surface of a massive governmental plot to obtain our
    firearms.

    New evidence has
    surfaced showing that video “memorials” of the Sandy Hook school shooting
    victims were posted on several CIA ghost accounts over 30 days in advance.

    In one case a video
    was uploaded to private and then the day of the shootings it was released
    publicly. However, there was just one flaw, the time date stamp was recorded by
    Vimeo’s system, a Tweet was recorded by Twitter, and a post was found on
    Facebook all pointing to prior posting of memorials of the Sandy Hook victims.

    In fact, some of the
    CIA contrived footage is so pathetic that it was used by the mainstream media
    early on indicating full involvement of several factions on many levels.

    Yesterday in front
    of my eyes I witnessed link after link, video after video, being pulled from
    multiple sites across the web.

    The following
    Twitter user @bacmaster may be involved in some type of operation as he
    actually Tweeted the video post he did one month or more prior to the school
    shooting.

    The video post was a
    memorial.

    However after I
    confronted him through my Twitter @NotForSale2NWO yesterday he panicked and
    deleted the original Tweet itself, which implicated him as an operative with
    advanced knowledge of the shooting.

    The original Tweet;

    http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache%3Ahttps%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2Fbacmaster%2Fstatus%2F267326143923904512

    The following Vimeo
    account Joseph Ametrano shows the upload time date stamp as November 10 2012 at
    11:36 am;

    https://vimeo.com/53220123

    Note: More evidence
    on Facebook shows a fundraiser posted 4 days in advance;

    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=488191011233328&set=a.363126717073092.106418.296574443728320&type=1

    The bottom line is
    there are multiple time date stamps that precede the actual shooting event.
    This demands an explanation.

    Please send all
    information and tips to [email protected] as we will be conducting an open
    investigation into this matter.

    A popular YouTuber
    reports;

    As the YouTuber
    points out the only thing that matters now is finding out if there was indeed
    real victims or if the entire shooting scene was in fact staged.

    There are others
    including a Florida professor who are taking a serious look into this event.
    Claudine Zap writes;

    A media professor at
    Florida Atlantic University who is questioning the Sandy Hook massacre has
    caused controversy with his conspiracy claims.

    James Tracy, who
    writes a personal blog about conspiracy theories, believes the events that
    unfolded at Sandy Hook did not happen as reported.

    The professor writes
    on his blog, Memory Hole, “While it sounds like an outrageous claim, one is
    left to inquire whether the Sandy Hook shooting ever took place—at least in the
    way law enforcement authorities and the nation’s news media have described.” He
    suggests that there were multiple shooters and that the number of dead is
    incorrect. The blog post was published on the Global Research site, where it
    caught the attention of the Web.

    The academic, who is
    known for his conspiracy theories on 9/11 and the Oklahoma bombing, believes—as
    he claims on his blog and recently stated on a radio show—that trained “crisis
    actors” may have been employed by the Obama administration to shape public
    opinion on gun control.

    The 47-year-old, who
    holds a Ph.D. from the University of Iowa in mass communication, wrote on his
    blog, “ As documents relating to the Sandy Hook shooting continue to be
    assessed and interpreted by independent researchers there is a growing
    awareness that the media coverage of the massacre of 26 children and adults was
    intended primarily for public consumption to further larger political ends.”

    According to his
    faculty profile, the professor “teaches courses examining the relationship
    between commercial and alternative news media and socio-political issues and
    events.” He also lists his recent work in “Censored 2013: Sourcebook for the
    Media Revolution. The Top Censored Stories and Media Analysis of 2011-2012.”

    Remain vigilant!

    Related Research:

    Sandy Hook Planned:
    Video Tribute Video Uploaded Weeks Before

    1/8/2013 — Sandy
    Hook Tribute — Twitter / Tweet From 1 month before shooting

    WHAT THE HELL IS
    GOING ON HERE Sandy Hook Elementary School Tribute Newtown, Saturday, November
    10, 2012 11:36 AM .avi

    ******

    Read more articles
    by this author HERE.

    Shepard Ambellas is
    the founder & director of theintelhub.com (a popular alternative news
    website), researcher, investigative journalist, radio talk show host, and
    filmmaker.

    Follow Shepard on
    Twitter/NotForSale2NWO.

    Watch and subscribe
    to Shepard on Youtube.com/user/NotForSale2NWO.

    essage…

  60. AURORA..JAMES HOLMES WAS . MK ULTRAED.. YOUR GOVERNMENT IS TOTALLY IN THIS CRAP TO THE EYE BALLS.. IT IS SICKENING. When I saw the expresion on James Holmes face and litened to witness that were not ACTORS there were 2 people and the mask of the other was found. BUT NEVER TALKED ABOUT. .. A INNOCENT MAN WILL BE IN JAIL FOR LIFE . UNLESS SOME TRUTH IS TOLD AND THIS GANSTER AGENDA DRIVEN GVT IS EXPOSED!

  61. TrueLove says:

    The freaking truth you numbskull. Wake up and smell the shit. They are doing right in front of all you idiots who can’t disconnect themselves from the TV (fake reality). I am so glad my eyes are open. I used to be in denial myself but LOVE opened my eyes. I know what these people are capable of and it’s pure evil. It’s there for everyone to see you just need to wake up!

  62. eamonkelly says:

    Reichstag Fire….anyone?

  63. David French says:

    What kills me is that this guy thinks it’s impossible for a country that dropped an atomic bomb on an innocent Japanese city- to fake the deaths of 20 children. Watergate wan’t that long ago either big guy..

  64. molon labe beotch says:

    I have no words to describe how much of a sheep you are. Line up and head for the slaughterhouse clown man. You are not capable to think for yourself so I guess it is time to cut your losses. Just a burden on the rest of humanity.

  65. carlos says:

    There is no hope for you. Momma must have dropped you on your head a few too many times there ace. Go ahead brilliant one, stay plugged into the matrix of cattle. You are what some would refer to as the “Goyim” Pathetic.

  66. BJ says:

    TJJ Bitc- please. You know nothing, in fact you know less than nothing. If at least you knew that you know nothing that would be something but you don’t. Can you read? Do you have a brain? Are you capable of critical independent thought? RESEARCH this “event” and learn something. It is all lies and booger eating morons like you just eat it up.

  67. charles chips says:

    OK Phoenix breathe…..deep breaths…that’s it…now pull your huge head out of your buttocks. You want facts….you can’t handle the facts. How about not one single tear in any video of any ” grieving parent”…none, zilch, nada, zero dry eyes! How about not one drop of blood, not one photo of the crime scene, not one body, no video of the crime by security cameras, a 90 day gag order in place to hide evidence. The worst acting ever by the cast of characters that claim to be “victims”. You’ve been had by the criminal media.

  68. Asmara says:

    I absolutely agree with every single word you said :) fantastic! I am glad There is others who also believe this whole thing was a set-up… I watched all the “hoax” videos, and there is a lot of critical evidence pointing to this thing being faked! About 10 different facebook pages we’re made DAYS before the shooting even took place! and how was emilie parker photographed sitting on obamas lap days after the shooting??? strange huh? none of what the government or the news is saying makes any sense.. they needed a massacre like this so Americans would back up their anti-gun laws.. they want us to be sooo scared of guns that we will accept their new gun laws.. it’s sick.

  69. Asmara says:

    Actually.. gene did change his story 3 different times, maybe you should pay attention and actually watch these videos before giving your opinions about them.

  70. Heath says:

    All of you are walking conspiracys, wheres the proof of your intelligence? Or that any of you even exist, or anything in your life, including family and friends. Shame…..others should die so you can recycle fear and paranoia. Shame, zero compassion, zero critical thinking, zero humanbeings….you dont exist..

  71. NOT John Aravosis says:

    The author of this article needs to pull the 2×4 out of his ass. Why does it matter that he used pistols and not an ar-15? I would suggest the same answer to that question would be the same answer to “why would they feel the need to lie about it…”. How is this guy an author for americanblog? He wrote possibly the most un-american shit iv ever read. Grow some balls asshole. Holy fuck and this dude was in the senate? How clueless can you possibly be, having been granted everything you have been in your position. Shame on you John. You should pay more attention to your fellow senators like Rand Paul.

  72. Vash1972 says:

    except the guy with the knife did not kill anyone. All of his victims lived. That is a bad example and again I am not for a gun ban. I am for something more reasonable a national gun register. And better background check with a deeper look into mental health and means with which to educate people on proper use and handling of firearms and proper ways to secure said firearms. I would prefer not to be shot because some dumbass does not know how to turn on his safety. like what happened at a few gun show at the first of the year.

  73. Vash1972 says:

    the first ambulances that got there took the few wound out and the remaining that were still in route were directed to stop at the fire station in case they were needed. The car was shown to be Nancy Lanza’s car people listening to the police scanner got confused with a traffic stop on the same channel in another town. the web pages have been explain a hundred times if you want to look. And there are no such prior pages of the kids with different names. If you have the urls then provided them to back up what you claim. You won’t because you can’t they do not exist because they never existed. What the Medical Examiner was referring to was an emotional crash from the stress of what the people were going through trying to maintain a professional decorum. You really need to listen to it in context unlike the way the videos try to twist it around. You have to listen to the first sentence to understand the context of the statement. You did take English class in high school right. The only person here in a manufactured reality is you. oh to hear the guy speak uncut go to :

    http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/12/15/15932666-conn-school-massacre-victims-all-shot-multiple-times-chief-medical-officer-says?lite

  74. Vash1972 says:

    you do know all that stuff is all over the web right. You can obituaries and grief-stricken parents and there were even eye witnesses. there was an eyewitness that saw them bring out the 2 girls that were shot and taken to the hospital for treatment and there was the fact the hospital reported treating 2 children that died there. So the hospital staff is in on too I guess. Oh and by the the young man that was the girls being taken out of the school covered in blood can also be seen in a pod cast video of a town hall meeting with the school board in Jan of this where they are talking about what to do with the building now. He even reported seeing them bring out on little girl covered in blood but did not seem hurt. I would guess the girl that pretended to be dead.

  75. Vash1972 says:

    some friends of the family created the page even says so on the page itself and it can be seen in the video although the person doing the video tries to direct your attention away from that. It was one of the other girls that scammers used a picture from another girl to set up sites to try to get money. Which also happened after 911. Not sure what conservatives care I have never seen one willing donate money to any cause without some personal gain involved.

  76. Vash1972 says:

    The FB page you are speaking about was not created by the parents but by some friends of the parents. It even says on the page and visible in the video you are referencing that that they were friends of the family And the page only shows the date it was created not the time. It was her sister that was with Obama in the picture. You could tell if you really looked a the pictures by the bone structure of the checks and chin. They are similar they are sister duh but they are different too. You sound like the one brainwashed.

  77. Vash1972 says:

    gangs with guns. gangs murder less people with knifes just saying. I am not for a gun ban by the way just pointing out the gangs use guns to kill people.

  78. Vash1972 says:

    just where is the proof the pictures they post about these 4 people is in no way proof of anything considering they do not even look a like. Do you have SS numbers or figure prints or dna. Do you have anything besides some pictures that only show the women have the same hair color and the guys look nothing a like not even remotely close.

  79. Vash1972 says:

    The families were given the option to see the bodies at the funeral homes after the morticians had chance to do as much as the could. If you have seen the interview with one of the funeral home directors, he explains they do try to talk the families out of view they bodies when there is this much damage due the the impact it can have on people but in the end if the family wants to see the body they show them. Bottom line it was the families choice and it was a private one if they choose not to share that it is their business and we have not right to demand it like you are doing. Rosen is not an actor that was different guy with the same name that never lived in CT and a different age. As for the parker girls there were only two with Obama maybe you need to learn to count and you are comparing a 2 years old photo to a recent one. If you really look at it you can tell it is the middle girl with obama and the youngest one. There is another photo of of the 3 girls that was taken back in Nov and you can tell that emiliy does not even look that much like her family photo because she grew in those 2 years and her face change a bit. That happens from 4 to 6 you know. You are very much sheep you believe any of the lies you were told in that video or about the parkers. As for being against guns don’t know how the families felt before the shooting but I can sure understand them coming against guns after. You call someone a dumbass but you don’t know the basic facts of the case. You really need to look at things besides these videos they are not being honest with you.

  80. Vash1972 says:

    yup that anyone that believe she was the Phelps mother is a fool. They have offered nothing but a vague resemblance to each and very vague at that.

  81. Vash1972 says:

    not 600 only 458 minus the 20 killed and any that just did not go to school that day. so most likely only around 400 total.you seem to believe all the parents were living just 5 min from the school which is not reality. Depending on were they work or live or if they could even drive yes some people don’t drive. people would filter in just the way it has been shown that they did. And in the 12.11 from chopper 12 you see the fanatic parents going from door to door to try to find how they can pick up their children. The answers are right in front of you but you can’t see the forest for the trees. One set of parents did talk about suing the school broad if that makes you feel better.

  82. Vash1972 says:

    You are not looking hard enough there were a lot of children filmed at the scene. the ambulances were parked there because it was determined they were not needed at the time due to all the remaining victims were dead but keep close until they were sure they did not find more as the cleared the building. FEMA was not conducting any drills in the area at all. and most defiantly not on the same road. There was a class in a different location and not on the same road. The FB pages were original dedication pages to something else that was renamed by the owners.you show disrespect to these families by posting this before you researched the first thing for yourself all of this has been on the net for months.

  83. Vash1972 says:

    not really that is the tea party and they claim to be Republican. they are not but they do make that claim.

  84. Vash1972 says:

    Again I suggest you do some real research which plainly have not done. Since you are citing the mistakes made and latter corrected by the media as they learn the real facts same as the video does. It likes to pretend updates that cleared up thing did not happen but they did. And this happens at all these events.

  85. Vash1972 says:

    you have not looked.

  86. Vash1972 says:

    God had nothing to do with your right to a firearm. Some rich old white men did that because they were to cheap to want to pay for an army. And everything in that video has been debunked.

  87. Vash1972 says:

    I did and no they were not valid. If she had really looked into things for the answers she would have already found the truth months ago but she like the others are not interested in that just their agenda of spending the lies. Not one of these conspiracy people has even bothered to look at the schools website. Should that not be a red flag as to the source of where they are even getting any information. The truth is they just make it up as they go along. Heck they did not look at the website of Sandy hook itself. they still have last years scrapbook up and you can see the layout of the school itself in those. But they have not looked into any of this and you have not even wondered why. I will tell you because it will answer some of the questions they have put out there. and they do not want that at all.

  88. Vash1972 says:

    I suggest you go back and look no drills were conducted by FEMA or anyone else. And there are no other schools on that road. The FB pages has already been shown how that happened They were pages renamed from something else that had been created earlier. there are not 600 kids in the school that statement shows how little you really have looked into anything you don’t even know the basic facts about the case. If you go and listen to the police dispatch that day you can hear them cancel the ambulances early on. I would say that has to do to the severity of the damage done to the victims. As for the footage from both choppers just who do you think the people are walking around the fire station. If you look you can see some have kids with them. there are plenty of videos with parents and kids walking away from the fire station at ground level know where you can see their faces.

  89. Vash1972 says:

    you mean underwhelming don’t you the overwhelming evidence supports what we were told by the media and law enforcement. If you look at the real stuff not give to you by the truthers. Sorry but you were taken in by the real hoax which was to call his a hoax. I have looked at the real evidence none of which was in that video. The video is very careful to remove anything that shows it is not being completely honest. Like just as an example muting the mother while she is remembering her dead child which has been know to cause people to smile. You are peddling a lie and misinformation. You call other sheep but you blindly cling to this video that was made what 3 months ago with it out of date crack pot questions . Most of which have been answered even if you don’t like the answer.

  90. Vash1972 says:

    Einstein was talking about the Universe and science not this nonsense. He would not support this complete waste of time looking into something that was so simple to see what the main truth of it was. A mentally unstable guy got some guns went somewhere he thought he could find people who would have the hardest time escaping because they would be cornered and went there and shot them. Very simple. Horrible and terrible but not real hard to figure out. Not sure why people think this is just something that could not happen the world is a terrible place and bad people do bad things.

  91. Vash1972 says:

    The only people mixing up the facts are the conspiracy people. They were doing it so much they began to interfere with the investigation. but they want to confuse thing and muddy the waters. To keep the sheep following them. You can trace most of this stuff back to just a handful of people putting it out. Most of the other are using them as sources and nothing else because they are told they can’t trust anyone but the conspiracy people. so they are in a bubble and cut off from any reality or facts that you show them. If it does not come from the people that spoon feed it to them they claim it is part of the conspiracy. I have been call an fbi agent or cia or even an crisis actor myself and even threaten but one of these people. they cling to this lie so hard it is sad really. Mind you I by no mean overlook the mistakes made by the media. Heck I am mad they complete blown of the fact they cured aids with little to no coverage. You would think that would be a big one. But it have a 2 min spot on CNN one night never talked about again.

  92. Vash1972 says:

    You are the one that needs to open your eyes to the truth I dare you to check out the school broad website for the pod casts of the school broad meeting after the schooling. You can find a few answer there if you really want to know. But I know you would look and you will keep your eyes firmly closed.

  93. Vash1972 says:

    They did not take the kids out all at ones and there were only 458 kids enrolled at the school 20 of which were dead. The school looks like just about every public school building I have ever seen that was not built in the last decade. When was the last time you been to a school. And you need to look again there were things in the windows of the class rooms. You need to open your eyes sir.

  94. Vash1972 says:

    The Medical Examiner is the real Medical Examiner but I have no idea why you think he is a jerk. People in his profession are just like that. I have met a few when I dated a mortician’s daughter. He acted kind of the same way. I think has to do with being around dead bodies that much. And Robert Parker is a real parent and there was nothing out of the norm in his behavior during or before that press conference. I have seen it before as someone is giving an Eulogy at several funerals. And that is just in front of friends and family this was a statement to not just the press there but to everyone watching so being a bit nervous would be normal. There was no one paid to be an actor in any of this.

  95. Vash1972 says:

    the video you are talking about was around 12:11 to 12:25 and which is the time he said he went to the fire station to deliver some of the kids to police and school officials. Sorry you really should look into things a bit more and not just the lying truthers. I mean these are the same nuts that claim it was done by satanic cults or the free Masons. I mean really you do have consider the sanity of the source of such information.

  96. Vash1972 says:

    This statement alone proves you have not researched anything like you try to belittle others for earlier. The security system was not state of the art but what is considered or at least was before this consider the gold standard and commonly used in schools but hardly state of the art. They have the same system at both of my children school so am familiar with it. And it could be bypassed with a hammer or a big rock. The security plan they had was the same as most schools but most other schools to have locks on the doors but I have seen some school without them to and some schools with no doors at all. The Principal did heard the sound and came to investigate but was gunned down and the secretary did call 911. Most people would not know the sound of a gunshot and would think it was a vehicle backfire in most cases so their guard would be down.

  97. Vash1972 says:

    This would require thousands of people to cover this up the way the “truthers” keep painting not a mere hundreds. I mean the whole town would have to be in on it. Don’t you think someone in the town would have came forward if the school had really been closed. And if it was open just one person would have came forward to state they did not know any of the people killed. And all it would take is just one person to blow the whole thing. While there has been several people come forward that have stated they new one or more of the victims. Even after the national media left he area and moved on to the next blood bath. If you want to see them just go to the website for the school board in the area and watch the pod cast they have of their meetings. The first one in Jan was an open town hall type plenty of people talking about how they know someone that was there or hurt. The only conspiracy here is the one being pulled on the truther but the conspiracy scammers..

  98. Vash1972 says:

    Watched it and it was a waste of time complete non sense any reasonable person could see through in a second. This article pretty well lays out the real truth about the video.

  99. Vash1972 says:

    It was homer made tear gas which was more in line with a smoke bomb. He came in the side door. I would say he used something to jam it open earlier. There is no connection to Libor that has been proven as a false lead. Their is no connection to the shooters to the Libor scandal. People in that theater were running in a blind panic in the dark with smoke all around. And most of the ones I saw interview and few were even shot by the guy one spoke of one shooter. The attorney in Colorado is a completely different person that the parent you are referring too. The sole comparison of the 2 women is they have long brown hair but none of their other features match at all. The crisis actor site has no pictures of Columbine they do have pictures of the drills they help communities with. none of the photos on that site are real events. I am ok with looking into Medication abuse maybe we should also look into that as well. That seems to be the only sensible thing you posted.

  100. Vash1972 says:

    SS Master Death Index already said that was a clerical error and fixed it about the death date. The site people were using get dates wrong quite a bit as does the SS. They report people dead all the time that are still alive.And the school does not have cameras in the hallways. It only had the one camera at the door and it was not able to record just display who was at the door. to be buzzed in. Maybe if they had not replaced the old metal doors with glass ones the shooter would not have been able to get in

  101. Vash1972 says:

    it took over a year for that video to be released first off and as for Sandy Hook they did not have that kind of video system installed in the school. I am not sure about the other shootings I doubt the movie theater did considering they would get in trouble for a camera in the theater and he came in the side door and not the lobby. As for the Sihk Temple not heard what kind of security they had in place but it sad to think a church even need such things these days. There is nothing strange outside the fact the kid was crazy and he had a stupid mother that did not secure her weapons.

  102. OP IS GAY OBAMA IS GAY says:

    WHOEVER WROTE THIS ORIGINAL POST HAS LOGIC FLAWS INTERMITTENTLY EVERY FEW SET OF WORDS. WHY THE FUCK WOULD ANYONE ACCEPT THIS DRIVEL IF THEY ARE ALREADY INTERESTED. DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE ACTIVELY TRY TO STOP TRUTHERS?
    NOT VERY MANY
    YOU EITHER ARE SEEKING TRUTH, OR SEEKING SANCTUARY
    THERE IS A TINY PERCENTAGE OF PEOPLE GOING OUT OF THEIR WAY TO SAY THRUTHERS ARE WRONG

    ID RATHER BE A TRUTHER THAN A LIAR

  103. Ruthiness says:

    All the facts are being withheld. There was video at Sandy Hook for security so IF Adam Lanza did this, the school hallway video should show him clearly. I have also seen that Adam Lanza’s date of death is one day before the Sandy Hook shooting. His date of death has been recorded as December 13th and the shooting happened on the 14th. explain???

  104. Ruthiness says:

    Where is the video from inside the school showing Adam Lanza committing these crimes? Why have we not seen it? Why are all the records for this event sealed even STILL? No forensics, no 911 calls – total black out of information. Why????????? Because we have not been told the truth that is why

  105. resso says:

    Whoa, Whoa here a moment. Regardless of if the sandy hook shooting happened or not I think we need to pay attention to the doubters, because their numbers suggest just how far our faith in our government and society have fallen. Americans are beginning to have all the poverty of faith in their miljo that the soviet russians had.

  106. vash1972 says:

    you are not quite correct about the crime rate vs gun ownership fl really goes against your argument there. As for the crime scene tape it was on all the cars in the front parking lot and on the doors of the school. If you listen to the police scanner audio that is online you will hear them cancel the call for EMTs and told the one already en route to stay at the fire station. And you seemed to have missed the big tent in front of the school where they did treat the few that managed to survive. And just how much skill is need to shot some 6 years old huddled in a corner from 10 to 15 feet away. Stevie Wonder could just about do it. Oh and at that range one bullet would have went through more that one child and caused massive damage. One of the reasons they called of the EMTs it was painfully clear very few survived You have not looked very hard if you have not found the truth. It is there just have to look.

  107. Vash1972 says:

    Most of them are saying it did not happen. Some are even claiming mythical shadow organizations are behind or satanic cults. Honestly these peoples are just plain nuts and here is the the thing they reference the extremely crazy ones as their sources even the ones that seem more rational. If your main source for your “facts” is claiming hitler and disney were the same guy your argument loses all creditability. And they cannot make any of their claims without referring to the misinformation they have been spoon fed. God knows they did not look into anything for themselves.

  108. vash1972 says:

    Have you looked at the “truther” BS all they are doing is saying the same things over and over again and when you confront them with the real truth they go off on you. I have personally been threaten by one of them. Fact there were no lies or misinformation since the imply a deliberate act. There were mistakes made in a rush to report things oh my were there mistakes. But the reporters really believed what they were reporting at the time. was it bad info yup it sure was in some cases. Did they correct themselves when they found out yup they sure did but the truthers just skip over those parts.

  109. Vash1972 says:

    the children were shot 3 to 11 times each. the ammo used .223 caliber. He was questioned and released once he was cleared. Same as the man in the car. they were removed that night to avoid the press taking pictures of them and causing stress on the families and it took a while to examine them all. Well you can get try to get a court order to have someones private medical history released if you want but I doubt you will get very far with that. Unless the person wants to release it the hospital sure won’t. He didn’t the interview in question was on the day the list was released the person that made that original claim got the date wrong. They have all been answer do you have more. I have looked into this quite a bit and found it really did happen more or less how we have been told. The only hoax here is all the people claiming hoax since they did not even try to look up anything. oh and the guy in china did not manage to kill anyone. He hurt a lot of people but they all lived. And he used a knife not a sword. I will give you it was a big knife but still a knife.

  110. HamatoKameko says:

    The amount of stupid in these comments is astonishing.

  111. The families are all well-paid actors.

  112. Emmaannetta says:

    When I first saw the news on tv about the killings, there were things that I found to be so weird. One was these kids supposedly saw their friends killed yet when they were talking, they were not crying, screaming, or in shock. When they showed parents parked along side the road and walking to the building, that was really strange. they looked so nonchalant and not crying or running; like they showed a video from something else. where were the 600 kids evacuated? they never showed them, just a few kids that saw their friends be killed. And then there was the little girl who said she pretended she was dead while the mad man killed all her classmates while blood sprayed her. there is not way she would be so calm. she would be shocked and not be able to speak or crying. So when I saw the video about the truth, I believed it and still do. Read “The Secret Government.” Do not think the government would not be deceiving to get Americans to believe there should be gun control. Take away our guns, and we will have our freedom taken away. It is history folks!

  113. sheeple fools says:

    If you don’t ask the questions your an idiot who has some sort of faith in a government who hate the people no matter if it’s real or fake they are lying and will never show or tell the real story. idiots.

  114. TruthandFreedom says:

    The problem is as such: conflicting evidence by the press. How was lanza dead the day before the incident took place? Coroner said all were killed with high power rifle, yet NBC says all were killed with hand guns. Then we have conflicting (many) memorials on the web prior to the incident, and photoshopped pictures. Likewise, people testimony that conflicts to the information, such as emily parker’s aunt who states emiliy’s older sisters are missing her? Hello, emily was the oldest. Likewise, no scholl photo of emily, and then the clear joking around by the suppossed dad prior to the interview definitely does give way to doubt! Next is the fact in both 9/11, aurora colorado shooting, and newtown were all al so magically the same places involved in DHS emergency massacre plans, supported by government documentation, at just the same time as the incidents. Next is the suppression of evidence to the public in regards to all these incidents! Now let’s also look at the governments involvement in psyops like MK Ultral and NLP, ie mind control agendas. Thus, if we are to believe any crap that is fed us we wat proof anymore!!! People with videos of 9/11 or who came forward ended up DEAD!!! COINCIDENCE? Now people are threatened if they pursue the truth in Newtown!!!! Very easy way to clear this up, RELEASE THE DAMN VIDEO OF THE EVENT!!!!!! THERE IS A SCHOOL VIDEO FROM A NEW SECURITY SYSTEM THAT WAS INSTALLED THAT TAPED THE ENTIRE EVENT!!! OFFICIALS REFUSE TO LET ANYONE SEE IT!!! SMELLS TO HIGH HEAVEN OF A COVER-UP. REGARDLESS OF THE END RESULT, THE STORY FED US JUST DOESN’T ADD UP!!!! WE NEED A THIRD PARTY INVESTIGATION INTO ALL THREE OF THESE MASSACRES WITH NO STONEWALLING BY THE GOVERNMENT IN AN ATTEMPT TO COVER-UP!!!!!

  115. Vito says:

    Ok, I actually watched the Conspiracy video made by the truthers. They never claim that this was a hoax. They just said that there is a lot of holes in the story and brought up the idea that Sandy Hook was staged. There is a lot of convincing evidence to support such an idea, so don’t try to twist their story to make yourself look good and defuse this theory. They bring up a really good point and it should be considered before people like you automatically jump down their throat. This article is completely one sided. You only used bits from the video that supported your attack on these people and failed miserably to tell the real story. I hope that people aren’t gullible enough to so quickly believe everything that the media and people such as yourself distribute. If this did happen, then it is beyond devastating and my heart goes out to them.

  116. ahwhoknows says:

    Where’s the security video of him entering the building? They released that for Columbine and many other shootings, but not for Aurora, Newtown of the Sihk Temple. They even released that for the guy in Miami who tried to kill and eat another man – but no video of this kid going into the building? I’m not saying it was faked, but if you watch all of the news reports and interviews and don’t come out on the other side thinking something is very strange about this, you’re just stupid or brainwashed.

  117. ahwhoknows says:

    There’s saying something never happened and then saying that we (the people learning of this through the media) have not been provided with a complete, comprehensive, account of what happened. Read, “I Heard You Paint Houses,” a book based on interviews given by Frank Sheeran, a deputy of Jimmy Hoffa’s in the 50s, 60s, and 70s. It seems far fetched to say, ‘this didn’t happen,’ but to assume that you have been provided with an accurate account in any of the events that you listed above. Read the book – there’s a lot more to how things happen in this country than the 20 second sound byte on the news will ever tell you.

  118. We had more than AOL and CompuServe in the ’90s. We had pretty much everything else that existed today minus sites like Facebook and Youtube. Many kids used the internet at local public libraries and school libraries. We were on chat rooms constantly. Eric Harris and Dylan Kleibold found websites on their own PCs to aid them in the massacre they planned and perpretrated.

  119. luci says:

    BUT the people who were said to of died, DONT exist.(ive only looked into the adults) Adam and Ryan Lanzer are real kids from the same place, same age. both ALIVE. See them on twitter.

    Ryan__Lanza (<—read down he states "so aperently im getting spammed bc someone with the same name as me killed some ppl… wtf?" dec 14th)

    Adam_lz

    Just prove to be one of the adults really existed. PRIOR to the shooting. I realllly want them to but they dont.

  120. bill britt says:

    troll

  121. bill britt says:

    hey numnuts what about the video of sir gene rosen walking around at the fire department at the same time he is suspose to be entertaining five kids that a bus drive just so happened to drop of at his house —your a troll

  122. bill britt says:

    your a troll p.o.s satan lover

  123. bill britt says:

    this is for the numnuts that cannot and will not think for themselves.–show me 1 pic were the 600 kids are being escorted out of the school-ive seen 1 pic with 12 kids walking in the parking lot with there eyes closed. all you numnuts half to look at is the damm school that school had been closed for mounths—–if not —what do you see in every other elmentry school windows snow flakes christmas trees the windows have nothing but dirt on them-wake up

  124. bill britt says:

    keep believing all the lies —people like you derseve eveything your gubnut dose for you.

  125. JD says:

    Liberal idiot…shocking. Guns are here to prevent a couple of things. One, other countries think twice about invading a country wielding millions of guns. Two, it keeps the government in check. (How do you think we bought and paid for your FIRST amendment right?…oh yeah, with our SECOND amendment right.) Sean, I have literally had to pull a gun out twice in my life for protection. Once to protect myself while running a convenience store and once to protect my pregnant wife and myself from home invaders…a gang is a more apt description. Both times, I was plenty glad I had one. I’m certain my wife would love your point of view. Maybe without our guns, my children and my wife would be dead. Move to Mexico where guns are illegal, maybe you can open your dumbass mouth and get yourself shot down there.

  126. JD says:

    I’m sure it happened. It is sad. But, I am a gun owner. You are an ignorant to call for the ban of all guns. First of all, the right you are exercising here was bought and paid for by our SECOND amendment right to keep and bear arms. We rose up against an oppressive government with those guns and won our freedom. They are still in our hands today for the same reason. The liberals are out of control, I fully support a revolution. We are not just talking about finances and healthcare either. The government is out of control all over the spectrum but you may be stumbling too blindly to notice. Guns can be used for hunting but the right was granted us to prevent oppressive government. Ask Australia, England, and Mexico how it’s working out for them. Hell, ask the jews how great it must have been to be unarmed when the ovens were turned on. Idiots. China is pro gun ban in the states…wonder why. Who wants to invade a country that has a rifle behind every blade of grass…not me. Take that away and I have no problems with it. Do you know why nobody invades Switzerland?…the government GIVES citizens guns.

  127. Jason W says:

    wow maybe we should ban stupidity and kick your dumb ass out of the country or maybe you should just move in with Obama.Oh and he is not American either.

  128. SneakyM says:

    How can you be so close minded? I am not asking you to see something that isn’t there, I am telling you to open your eyes to what’s right in front of you.

  129. imc440 says:

    Every time somebody says to open your eyes, they’re asking you to see shit that isn’t there to begin with.

  130. SneakyM says:

    You’re entirely too ignorant. FOX haha what a joke. Did you know only 6 corporations own all of cable television? You are not given every fact on the news because there is no diversity in the news. I’m not living with hate because I don’t believe what you do and bashing a girl who states her opinion is whats hateful? Ill be the first to admit not everyone will be able to change, but hopefully your generation dies out as soon as possible because their is no hope in changing the way you view information. Have a nice day sheep.

  131. SneakyM says:

    You sir and the people like you are the reason that these plans will fall into place. Do you honestly think we want to think like this? Why would I want to think my government is not what they say? It’s not because I want to, it’s because I question. “The important thing is to never stop questioning”-Albert Einstein

  132. SneakyM says:

    Losers? Look at yourself, you lack critical thinking if you just believe everything you’re told.

  133. SneakyM says:

    crisisactors.com Come on, open your eyes

  134. SneakyM says:

    Thank you.

  135. SneakyM says:

    Are you serious? You are so blind you should have a service dog. There is a video on youtube with over 10 million views about these events you need to watch it and see for yourself.

  136. SneakyM says:

    You know I’m not trying to bash you, but look at the evidence. A father who lost is little girl was joking around, smiling, and he didn’t even shed a tear. I don’t have children, but I’ve asked numerous parents how they would feel if their child went to school one day and never came home. Not a single one said they would be able to be in an interview. Look at the medical examiner, he didn’t know anything. A man which has supposedly been to college acting like he was intoxicated The old man who changed his story multiple times. You must thing 911 was a terrorist attack too, huh? Quit accepting the answers you want to hear and do your own research. Its truly mind boggling the amount of people who know what WTC 7 is. A building in new york that not only was destroyed, but no one was injured, because Condaliza Rice sent a memo to the office telling them not to go to work. On a tuesday in New York City. Come on, open your eyes.

  137. rick spigmaa says:

    ok, tell me about the recorded radio transmissions comcerning the men in nun outfits, or the fact the one memorial site was dated before the attack. then ill stop believing the truthers lol.

  138. christyglpn says:

    You want further proof how about the fact that Adam Lanza died on the 13th in New Hampshire not on the 14th in Connecticut. Per the social security death index
    http://www.genealogybank.com/gbnk/ssdi/doc/ssdi/v1:143EB37C71A1FA78

  139. lioness says:

    conspiracy or not, the news is inaccurate, do America a favor and turn your TV off. don’t support newscasters that can’t get their story straight.

  140. trsdek says:

    I think you need to go back on your meds John.

  141. trsdek says:

    What is being withheld? Oh, genius….

  142. bugs bunny says:

    super fake. we might as well live in a communist nation.

  143. american conspiracy says:

    Ha fox news strikes again. how about trying to address the crazy inconsistencies, terrible acting, and utterly false testimonies from so called witnesses rather than bash people and call them crazy. i think you’re crazy if you don’t think this conspiracy was planned. what about the donation websites? they were set up before the shooting ever happened. where are the facts??

  144. Not Surprised says:

    Sometimes you need to step back and simplify things. 1) The government over-steps it’s bounds frequently, and more often than not, gets checked and balanced right back into place by the supreme court. 2) New gun legislation is unlikely to pass. 3) People who bicker back and forth through internet outlets are generally not very close to the incident, and any research done is usually obtained by sources through the internet. This leads to spinning wheels and occupation of focus. Perfect time for mis-direction for getting some spending bill (editorialised general example) passed. 4) I personally only know what was reported, and like most of you, I dig and sift and try my darndest to compile a number of sources to piece together a consistent unbiased story, which like most of you, frustrates the crap out of me that I can’t get journalistic integrity out of 1 or 2 sources, but have to Frankenstein one together. 5) In my opinion (Preface this statement by stating that I’m a Colorado native, and have a very close Columbine friend present the day of that shooting) It was a regional event that does NOT affect the whole of the nation. Much like the events that have taken place in Colorado, they should handle it, as we did. Any support should be given by request, not just because “I feel helpless and have to do something” They’re not weak, They’re American just like you and I. They got knocked down hard, and will get up. Thats what we do. The most uncomfortable part of these things is having the eyes of the world on you through a grieving process, that should by all rights be solemn, personal and private. 6) I am a gun owner and advocate, and more people are than are not in this country. Using a tragedy, especially one with the loss of so many youngsters as a platform FOR ANY, let me repeat that, FOR ANY agenda is deplorable. My personal opinions aside, if you insist on going on and on with every tidbit of this story while people try to trudge forward without their children, at least focus on the needs of the families. I’ve generally never been embarassed to be Human, but thats only because events like this certainly demonstrate who can call themselves one and who should refrain from such.

  145. I TOTALLY AGREE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  146. ARE YOU A TEACHER? WHO CARES IF SOMEONE WRITES IN CAPITOL LETTERS. WE ARE YELLING AT YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  147. AKing says:

    Becca makes a valid point. And I have no reason to have any faith in the people elected by said morons. We have a president who has done nothing but spend him time trying to find ways to limit the rights of Americans and fight supreme court to pass bills that are unconstitutional.

  148. AKing says:

    So you are saying that you want to repeal American’s right to Bear Arms? Well I want welfare banned. Guess we all want things that will never be passed.

  149. AKing says:

    Ok, Is Sandy Hook a Hoax? Who knows. But I am a parent and if anyone shoved a camera in my face I wouldn’t be all smiles and reminiscent about my child. That cameraman would have been told to leave my property immediately. My child’s death would not be a spectacle for new reporters.
    BUT! I do not believe the government will ever be able to take guns away from the people. The right to bear arms will not be amended. And what people can’t seem to grasp is that they will not be able to completely remove guns. They will take guns from LAW ADIDING CITIZENS only. Meth, cocaine, heroine…those are all illegal too, but you can still find it on the streets. And guns can never cease production. guns are too easy to manufacture.
    Lastly, if anyone believes that this is the America that it once was and is not in a state of decline needs to wake up. We are falling. We are not the great county that we used to be. Same with China, same with Germany. Half of Germany fell in behind someone they believed would be a great leader. And then he became a dictator. I wonder what America has signed up for in the next four years….

  150. j arnold says:

    David Mamet: Hands Off My Gun
    The individual is not only best qualified to provide his own
    personal defense, he is the only one qualified to do so.

    .http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2013/01/28/gun-laws-and-the-fools-of-chelm-by-david-mamet.html

  151. j arnold says:

    Consider many people get their cues how to think and what to think from mass media and after a while people look to mass media to define what is normal and real, thus what is “real” gets confused in this feed back loop with what is defined at the moment as normal and acceptable thinking.

    Which is why I think so many people fight so fiercely for their own mental slavery to mass media truth. Any contradiction or dissent effects their already precarious sense of reality and normalcy.

  152. j arnold says:

    “tin foil-hat,”

    The whole range of radical mistrust of the US government is a consequence of the cold war national security state and the post 911 police state “patriot laws.”

    Read the Patriot Act. Read the NDAA. Then read the US constitution. If you want facts, then deal with current laws. Not what used to be. The Federal government can brand any American citizen a terrorist, arrest him, hold him
    indefinitely without trial or legal council. Even torture this citizen, without
    recourse. That is the law.

    When you come to terms that the US no longer operates as a constitutional republic, then you can have an opinion on “conspiracy theorists.”

    Until then, your subtext reads, “The US as a police state is a conspiracy theory. Trust the US government, which really isn’t a police state despite police state laws passed giving the Federal government sweeping police state powers.

    To believe the government is a police state because it is now legal to committee formerly illegal and grossly unconstitutional acts against its citizens is an unwarranted canard against a Federal government only interested in the safety and welfare of the country and citizens in a time of war and terror. The Police state is good. Constitutional government and anti-Patriot Act rebels and obstructionists are bad. Be a good citizen. Fully trust you government even if it makes no sense, or get labeled a “conspiracy theorist.”

  153. j arnold says:

    In March?

  154. egmiller says:

    Supposedly there will an “official statement” in March, just in time to vote on these issues, but not enough time to examine the facts by an independent 3rd party.

  155. egmiller says:

    The reason people say ‘tin foil hats” is to discredit anyone who would ask questions. What is wrong with seeking the truth and pointing out the inconsistancies?

  156. egmiller says:

    Kurt, what is interesting is that there was FEMA drill in Aurora Colorado on the same day as the shootings and there was also a FEMA drill in Newtown on the same day, what’s the chance of that happening? Must be in the billions? Perhaps actors mixed with real folks, just like there was at 9/11?

  157. BxBully says:

    How are you gonna defend yourself if a military attacks this country, u gonna call the police, when someone is breaking into your home where u and your family lay your heads you gonna run out the house screaming and yelling help, guess what u are a victim waiting to happen. Where guns are readily available there is less gun crimes than the places that have strict laws. Why because criminals don’t follow laws. so u can try to ban them it’s not like the criminals follow rules any way. Americans that can’t defend themselves are perfect victims for the criminal element.

  158. James S. says:

    How fucking stupid are people? Why is it so hard to understand that it’s not guns that kill people, it’s people that kill people? Without guns, there would still be weapons, and everything is a weapon.

  159. How very true the US needs to stop working for the betterment of a group of men (and women lets not be sexist) who own guns and work for the betterment of MANKIND (and childkind) by banning the fucking things. Get rid of all the dopers in prison and replace them by any clown walking around with a gun and no reason for it.

  160. Spacejews

  161. qqqjones says:

    “What are you talking about?”

    Lol. I’m quite willing to believe an allegedly “state of the art,” security system for Sandy Hook Elementary was simply and easily thwarted by a crazed gunman who either simply walked through open doors or blasted his way through glass doors or windows so quickly that no one heard the racket in sufficient time to call 911 or lock down their kids by simply locking class room doors.

    I’m quite willing to believe that the best and brightest security experts can’t devise security measures to protect students from mental cases seeking spontaneous targets of opportunity, not because this can’t be done, but because government contracts for elementary school security aren’t that important and aren’t evaluated until kids die.

    What I would suspect is far from state of the art security, whatever ‘security plan,” was implemented at Sandy Hook Elementary didn’t even pass common sense.

    For example, teachers should have keys to lock classroom doors. And lock themselves and children inside at the first sign of trouble. If we are talking state of the art, how come no one spends a few bucks and makes classroom closets impenetrable safe rooms, with bullet proof metal doors and walls? All things which would give first responders time to respond.

    As far as grief analysis, if parents of the slain are able to process their grief in days, sufficient to give an television interview, I’m not sure why I should process my grief for their children for any longer. All I know is if it were my kid, I’d be howling at the moon and demanding answers, and far too distraught to give interviews. I wouldn’t go gently into the good night. And that is how many people feel.

    Sorry. Either 20 dead kids is a very big deal or it isn’t. From media coverage I get the impression loosing a kid is about as important as losing a dog. Life goes on. Que Sera. Disconnect from expected emotions.

  162. imc440 says:

    What are you talking about? Why would anybody think they’re dealing with a simulated shooting drill in the first place? “Oh, must be another one of those ‘crazed gunman drills’. You know how we love to create a crazed, paranoid environment for our children.” That never happens, because people aren’t insane enough to think of shooting drills for elementary school kids. And don’t armchair quarterback grief analysis. Was the Challenger explosion a hoax? Because do you know how family members reacted to the explosion? With stunned silence. They didn’t start wailing and screaming. The horror was too much for their brains to process. I’ll believe that, a lot quicker than I will that a school staged a retarded shooting drill, had a few people killed, and then put it on a crazed shooter.

  163. The fact is we have seen videos bodies and guns used at all the other shootings just like columbine, but we have seen none of this here.

  164. Bryan Gulcin says:

    This shooting was definitely a hoax. Too many questions unanswered. The interviews by parents of the “deceased” are head scratching too. They look like they didn’t even lose a child….and that Robbie Parker guy smiling prior to his interview and then all of a sudden acting out his weak blubbering is questionable.

  165. johnb3950 says:

    Hm – looks like I can’t post the whole link – just search the Globe for “cartoon” and you should find :United States of Paranoia.”

  166. johnb3950 says:

    It is absolutely appalling and scary that there are so many people ready to go along with this weirdness. Even scarier to think that many of them probably own guns. These are the black helicopters, 9/11 inside job, FEMA concentration camps believers. There’s a whole nexus of insanity ranging from creationism to World Government conspiracy that probably covers a lot of the same people.

    There’s a wonderful cartoon in the Boston Globe that relates..
    http://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2013/01/22/editorial-cartoon-states-paranoia/OJyRguHQXFsrsfr3JknnoO/story.html

  167. John S. says:

    For all you people who don’t believe any of this…I question your logic. I’m not saying all the of the information is true, but some of it is unexplainable. Explain the indisputable evidence that there were websites made, multiple websites.(don’t say photoshop because there are multiple sources that talk about them). No one questions Virginia Tech or Columbine shooting because there is hard evidence to back it up. There is hardly ANY evidence for this one, at least that has been released to the public.
    ONLY 1 person was injured in the shooting. That means Adam Lanza, a claimed psychotic socially awkward child, gained god like accuracy and must have seperately shot each child fatally with multiple shots , which is hilariously false. I can almost guarantee you that if a gunman with no experience shot up a school they would miss 50% of the time, resulting in some injuries not all deaths.

    Question that I challenge people to answer: Who is the source of the Victoria Soto heroine story? I feel like that is just a propaganda story to enhance the believablity.
    -HOW THE HELL did 6 kids escape from a school shooting, not grabbed by anyone, hopped on a random bus that miracously was waiting and were dropped off at a random house? You honestly believe this garbage we’re being fed? Who’s the bus driver? Why did the kids who just witnessed their friends murdered play at some random guys house with toys? Answer if you can.

  168. George Wright says:

    “And I saw the dead, small and great standing before God, and the books were opened… and the dead were judged according to their works, by the things that were written in the books… and anyone not found in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.” Rev. 20 11 – 15.
    We will know the truth when all is revealed before the judgement seat of God.

  169. BxBully says:

    How many times was each child shot? What type of ammo was used? What happened to the man in the police car ? What happened to the man in the bushes? Why were the bodies not examined and or removed until days later? Where are the medical reports of the injured. How did the Rosen guy know about the casualty list if it was not released until two days after his interview? Need I go on ? Why don’t we have any of theses answers. Typical cases have more details released after the fact than this. Something is going on and were not getting the full story. A guy in china killed 20 children and some teachers he didn’t use a gun he used sword. What is real issue. People killing children is wrong no matter how its done but let us not disrespect the dead children and make this gun issues when it way more than that. We as humans have to put aside all the propaganda and “hidden” agendas work for the better of MANKIND not the better of A group of man

  170. Jake Steffey says:

    More damage-control from vested interests. It looked staged, sorry.

  171. Graham Boyken says:

    The saddest thing of all is that these people get the attention they want…. Much akin to what killers like Adam Lanza and James Holmes get. Forget these people, because their legacy is only the mere attempt at making the lives of others miserable. Forget them, because they only seek to destroy the common bonds that make us compassionate human beings.

  172. Start thinking says:

    Did anyone say they did? Once again, please use your brain and stop putting words in other people’s mouths and assuming that represents what they believe and then insulting them for it. This shit is getting ridiculous. I cannot believe how so few people think for themselves anymore.

  173. Start thinking says:

    Did he say he condoned them? Did you even put more than 2 seconds of thought into what he said before retorting with a useless insult and strawman argument? Do you not see why this line of thinking has “truthers” so aggrevated? People like you and this article writer are merely parroting the same shit over and over and refuse to acknowledge the FACT that there were/are lies and misinformation blatantly being put out by the same media sources telling everyone they’re crazy for questioning it. Perhaps it was a real massacre, but how are you and others so arrogantly blind (don’t hear that too often) to not see why so many people began questioning it in the first place! Please educate yourself about psychological warfare, shock economics, reverse psychology and propaganda before making such ignorant articles and comments.

  174. Dave Blair says:

    The conspiracy nuts don’t have verifiable evidence either. They don’t need it. All they need to do is question any other evidence given – which is ok – and use the lack of answers* (like right here, right now, wrapped up and delivered to their doorstep) to weave a fantasy “theory” that fails any reasonable sanity check.

    *EDIT: No they don’t even have to do that, all they have to do is ignore the answers they’ve been given.

  175. Dave Blair says:

    Oh I totally hear you. Reality can be so confusing at times it’s much more comforting to believe in some nice ordered fantasy conspiracy theory.

  176. Still waiting for you to actually offer evidence that isn’t “the Jews did it”.

  177. If any Sandy Hook parent could see you, he or she would slug you for pushing such bogus garbage.

  178. So, do you really think the parents of the Sandy Hook kids weren’t allowed to see their bodies? And do you think that Dr. Rosen plotted this because he’s Jewish?

  179. So you think massacres are trial balloons? Are you that insane and amoral?

  180. Really? Tell us, O wise one, what “facts” are being withheld?

  181. BxBully says:

    Where are the facts about sandy hook? We are not being told the truth, not only is it being withheld but we are not getting the facts and u as journalist should be a
    Shamed of yourself pushing this crap u call journalism out there We want facts

  182. Shawn Thomas says:

    Are the children dead?I am beginning to feel less, and less inclined to believe anything I have seen on the news, and I saw nothing that looked even remotely like the scene of a mass murder, including, but not limited to the reaction…Or lack there of I should say, of the people responding to this, and those who allegedly linked.Nothing seems to add up, and I tend to believe what Judge Judy says…If it does not make sense it probably isn’t true.

  183. Houndentenor says:

    To be fair here, there was also a fringe of the Democratic party that believed the Bush administration created 9/11. That’s equally insane and for the same reason. And then there are the anti-vaccine nutters (both right and left).

  184. Houndentenor says:

    So let me get this straight…the same government that we all complain does such a lousy job of running the country is able to fake major events like 9/11, the moon landing, and now these mass shootings. Really? REALLY?

  185. Bruce Atkinson says:

    Sure it all sounds nuts. And when I hear and see more verifiable facts, it will be confirmed for me that these are conspiracy nuts. But if all the refutations are (like here) nothing but saying these people are nuts, then I must wonder too. Give me evidence, not opinions, please. My question is: Why are we not seeing verifiable evidence to quiet these people? That’s all it would take.

  186. qqqjones says:

    No it wouldn’t. It would take hundreds of confused parents and kids thinking first they are dealing with a simulated shooter drill then told that a brutal massacre actually occurred.

    This would perhaps explain the inappropriate, non-panicked community reaction to the shootings and then explain the silence and lack of commentary because individually, people would be confused, shamed and intimidated from commenting negatively on a shooter drill “gone live” tragedy when their child is alive while other children are “allegedly” dead.

    In other words, I seems that people appear to be acting from a simulated shooting script because that is what they thought they were doing for a good cause and community service and then kept “in character,” even after the tragedy because they thought the shooting and media was part of script, then became confused and intimidated when the script went real.

    That is not to say that the shootings and dead children did not occur. However, I think we are not being told about a shooting drill gone live.

  187. qqqjones says:

    “This is, of course, the downside to the Internet”

    The upside of the internet is people are empowered with information and their own mass communication network. The days when an important story doesn’t have to jive with reality and easily accessed facts is over.

    Perhaps one should wait until there is an official statement and commitment to facts about Sandy Hook before one starts screaming, “conspiracy theory.” The flip side of conspiracy mentality, and just as suspect is the disingenuous defense of the indefensible, or “smokescreen theory.”

    Rationally speaking, once there is a official commitment to story and facts, then the story and fact should stand scrutiny. Surveillance videos, list of dead who can be proved to exist and are now dead. Guns and ammunition used, car used, timeline, eyewitnesses, etc.

    If the official story is true and accurate –which it should be for a simple, lone, crazed gunman case –all the facts should check and all rational questions answered.

  188. qqqjones says:

    No. Doesn’t look right. 600 kids is a lot kids. 600 kids equal many hundreds of crazed, frantic parents attempting to get their kids.

    Where’s the crowd of “out of their minds with fear their kid is dead” parents? Where’s the interviews one would expect with the waiting,frantic parents? Where is the reunions of children with parents? When did they get their children back?

    Clearly if there are 600 kids in the school and even 300, 400 waiting parents there would be frantic waiting area somewhere and a news worthy, camera worthy mass reunion. Where is it? Did all these hundreds of parents wait patently at home for the authorities to maybe drop off their kid?

    Where are the parents of these 20 dead kids expressing outrage that their kid is dead in a supposedly “high security school” and demanding answers of how this could happen?

    Instead you get detached parents eulogizing their dead child in a manner which might make sense long after they have accepted and processed their child has been brutally murdered but strains credulity when the child has been dead for hours.

    No. Doesn’t sit right.

  189. Wayne Furr says:

    OK, 1200 feet from Rosen’s house is the school, if I am to stipulate that to you. Hundreds of shots. It takes the kids a half hour in Gene’s house to start disclosing what has just taken place. And all the while playing with Gene’s dolls he has in the front room… I’m brainwashed by whom for having questions? What “reason” is so lacking in me? And you are afraid of someone who asks questions, believing he is going to “start packin'” because he is so much more stupid than you. By “start packin'” do you mean that questioners like me are like Mao Zedong, who started packin’ and killed tens of millions. Or wait, maybe you DON’T Believe that Mao killed anyone at all. Maybe we’re like Stalin, who “started packin'” and killed tens of millions of his own people. Or wait, maybe you DON’T Believe that Stalin killed anyone at all. Are you afraid of Holocaust Deniers? I do believe that Jeremiah Wright, Noam Chomsky, Cynthia McKinney, Louis Farrakhan (all “right wing loonies”) are the most staunch supporters of our present President. Would I myself have questions about the Holocaust? Yeah. If there were no pictures. If the Jewish survivors had come out looking healthy, well rested, and stopped over at Grampy Gene’s house for a quick bite. If a Jewish survivor who had lost his family in the ovens laughingly came up to a microphone for an interview about the horrors of the camps and I perceived what seems to be his contorting his face to initiate painful memories and evoke tears. So sorry. If this wasn’t a hoax then these people are very weird. And that’s OK by me. I’ll call them weird then but I won’t call the liars. And I don’t wan to call grieving parents liars. But I am of the belief that we are defined more by our enemies than by our friends. So I take it as a compliment that someone who questions NOTHING starts packin’ so as to eliminate my opinions.

  190. Wayne Furr says:

    Your “answers” never answer anything. Your answers to people who have doubts is that unless a doubter can tell you exactly the alternate scenario that happened he is to be labeled an idiot and tin foil hatter. You begin your insults with things like “…and we’re supposed to believe that…” or “…maybe you can tell me how…” and “…in order to believe that you would have to…” You assault our questions by rephrasing them as our answers and then malign us for being “stupid”.. “We’re supposed to believe…”? NO, you’re not supposed to believe anything. I don’t believe anything. I am not trying to get you to believe ANYTHING. You are content with the answers. I’m not yet. I have no agenda other than truth. If I was sitting on a jury and had to hear some of these witnesses and victims I would have to believe completely in my mind that they were being truthful. I am in that jury, the jury of public opinion. And if you think that you were selected the foreman you can walk out to the judge and tell him that the jury hasn’t come to a verdict yet. And then you can go back into the jury room and insult me until we get a verdict that you want? Would you want me to think that Trayvon was murdered? I don’t know. I’m weighing the evidence. I live in Colorado and my kid worked at Aurora Hospital and I knew people who lost loved ones. Maybe people are different in CT than CO, but I saw real tears here, I saw and heard pandemonium, I saw pics of the devastation, the police were terrified. But in CT? I passed off a lot of this stuff you call “loonie” until I actually reviewed what they were talking about. No, not the Jews, the Masons, the Satanists, etc Just questions. And because I don’t fall into lock step with your conclusions I and others are demonized by you and the rest of your closed-minded toadies…

  191. Wayne Furr says:

    Right wing loonies? R U kidding? GWBush lied about WMDs, got us into wars everywhere. Some of us “right wing loonies” do not believe ANYthing the govt tells us just they say it’s so. We have heard so many lies from GHWBush onward we believe no one and nothing if it has any inconsistencies. You think we’re demeaning the parents? We’re supposed to shut up about our doubts because we might hurt someone’s feelings? Ever hear a police interview of a raped woman? You want brutal? BTW, you don’t really believe that Monica Lewinsky story do you?..Anyone who doubted the old lyin buzzard with his cigar sexual device and DNA stained dress was as good as a traitor and called the same epithets by the same bunch doing it here. I was right in doubting the Prez then. And if my doubts on this can be assuaged I will be more than happy to know that our govt is not as evil and cynical as these unanswered doubts and questions would lead me to believe. But as of right now I’m one for three. Didn’t believe Clinton. Fell for GW’s lyin lips (another reason I trust NO party, right or left). Up in the air right now. To paraphrase Eliza Dolittle–quit calling me names…SHOW ME.

  192. Wayne Furr says:

    Hey unclemike…oh, never mind

  193. jan says:

    please show picture of the dead adam lanzer on the school floor with the gear he used then..that will be ultemate proof

  194. joe says:

    please children ..stay on the bus..its a lot safer here!!!ummm…oh..I think I will drop them off at a complete strangers driveway/street…mm…wait ..I will make a call to the police and notify where I am…ummm..I am so confused right now…

  195. Pohickitydoda says:

    I don’t believe it was a hoax, but the person who wrote this article is a complete tool.

  196. pappyvet says:

    When it comes to evaluating facts that are relevant to our deep-seated or beliefs, wingnuts don’t act like scientists. Rather, they attempt to contort the evidence to support their argument. Its about ideology and anything that they can twist to fit their “beliefs” They do not want to deal with 6 year olds being slaughtered so it must be the black guy in the white house or the jews or both. We’ve seen this sort of authoritarian ,tribal thinking before.Debating with them does no good. FACTS do no good.

    If you were to say.”Bush is an idiot who almost destroyed the economy of America.”
    They would see absolutely no difference between that and
    , ” Sock Sokolowski to Stephanie Miller:
    “As with Cindy Sheehan the best thing that could happen to you
    would be seeing some WONDERFUL activist sticking an AK-47 up your Glory Holes
    and sending you into eternity.”
    or
    {Commentater at “Shot in the Dark”
    “The only “common ground” we’ll ever find with the blue
    state scum is the battleground, when we finally cut the shit and put all the
    enemies of this nation to the pike. It can not come too soon.”
    or
    J. Baker ,Phoenix commenting @ AWOLBush.com

    “Ya know, I think it’s too bad that we can’t follow Saddam’s model of dealing
    with opposition – just open up mass graves and start torturing, maiming, and
    murdering liberals and leftists by the millions – toss them into the ground, and
    fill the holes up with dirt. I would love to volunteer for such duty!”

    or
    Red State contributor Thomas Crown
    “I repeat: Should the entire American Left fall over dead tomorrow, I would
    rejoice, and order pizza to celebrate. They are not my countrymen; they are
    animals who happen to walk upright and make noises that approximate speech. They
    are below human. I look forward to seeing each and every one in Hell.”

    This is the root that has taken hold after 2 decades of hate radio and rabid propaganda. Very rightwing, straight from the old coffeehouses of Berlin,but not American at all.

    “THE WHOLE THING WAS STAGED<DONT LET THE JEWS DISARM YOU AMERICA."

    Is not that suprizing at all.

  197. James D. Smith says:

    There are far too many living on the streets, homeless, living w/a relative, that have no access to help. Yes, it may be time to make mental institutions more available to those in need. There are professionals that can help w/the mental health problems in this country.

  198. Damian Lopez says:

    Kim I totally agree with you. People are suffering and all this hoax b.s. is only making it worse.

  199. As much as it made me sick to watch this story unfold on TV of the tragic lives of 20 innocent children being loss, it sickens me more that there is even a slight possibility that this was fake. But being from New York and haveing just witnessed our state being made an example to the rest of the country by passing a bill behind close doors in the middle of the night to pretty much declare New Yorkers felons if we own more then three guns and slowly striping our rights away, I defiently now question and air on the side of this whole thing was staged. I would much rather be the person sitting back questioning everything then the person who sits and waits for my cival right being taken away. As a mother of four, I cant imagine ever losing one of my children to a mentally ill enraged person with a gun. It is just as scary to think my kids are going to grow up in a country when their freedoms are being taken away. You notice the fight isnt about mental wellness but 80% about disarming Americans. With the age of technology, where kids and parents walk around with cell phones all day documenting their every move. Why isnt there any random videos from bystanders or other parents out their that documents the shear panic of the day? I have seen video of kids recording random after school fights, and your telling me not one person had a cell on them to catch or record anything other than what the media captured? No interviews with any families other then the families that were directly involved with incident. I would feel more comfortable to know it was real and not staged, because it is much more scarier to think or if there is even a small possibilty that it was staged. I dont see anything wrong with questioning things. This is your life and your childrens future.

  200. Stefen Antes says:

    lol who ever wrote this is pretty dumb..

  201. JD says:

    Maybe the first moon landing was a hoax. Maybe there is no moon.
    The eyes can be very deceiving and easily persuaded.

    Be cautious of what you see. Of what you believe

    Yes, even you conspiracy hopefuls. Question what you’re questioning and the sources that are convincing you to question.

    (And no- youtube videos, twitter tweets, and wikipedia don’t count as legit sources)