Chris Culliver apologizes for saying gays should get out of NFL, PR flak blames gays

San Francisco 49er cornerback Chris Culliver found himself at odds with his own PR flak tonight, as both tried to spin Culliver’s earlier comments that gays should get out of the NFL.

In an apology this evening, Culliver said he didn’t mean the “discriminatory” words he uttered earlier:

“The derogatory comments I made yesterday were a reflection of thoughts in my head, but they are not how I feel. It has taken me seeing them in print to realize that they are hurtful and ugly. Those discriminating feelings are truly not in my heart. Further, I apologize to those who I have hurt and offended, and I pledge to learn and grow from this experience.”

At the same time, his PR flak, Theodore Palmer, contradicted Culliver’s admission of guilt, and seemed to blame the entire affair on gays and their allies who were offended that Culliver told them to stay in the closet for another ten years and to get out of the NFL.  Per ESPN:

Chris Culliver PR rep. Theodore Palmer.

Chris Culliver PR rep. Theodore Palmer, from his PR Web site.

Culliver, 24, planned to address his remarks formally at a news conference during the 49ers’ media availability Thursday morning, according to his personal public relations representative, Theodore Palmer.

“Chris is very apologetic for any harm caused to anyone,” Palmer told The Associated Press in a phone interview. “His intent was not that at all. He is one who celebrates the differences of others. All of this was just a big mistake. It was interpreted wrong.”

Right.  It’s our fault now.

Let me remind folks of Culliver’s words earlier that we misinterpreted, and/or that Culliver didn’t realize sounded hurtful and ugly:

“I don’t do the gay guys man,” said Culliver, whose Niners play the Baltimore Ravens on Sunday. “I don’t do that. No, we don’t got no gay people on the team, they gotta get up out of here if they do.

“Can’t be with that sweet stuff. Nah…can’t be…in the locker room man. Nah.”

When quizzed by Lange whether any homosexual athletes would need to keep their sexuality a secret in football, Culliver responded: “Yeah, come out 10 years later after that.”

Nobody misinterpreted anything.

While it’s all well and good that Culliver issued an apology, and it is a decent apology, his PR flak should stop talking if he’s going to contradict his client.  Now for the bigger question: Is an apology enough?  I’m all for apologies.  And repentance.  And forgiveness.  But when you say “we don’t got no gay people on the team, they gotta get up out of here if they do,” is it really penance enough to say “wow that looked hurtful in print”?  I’m glad he apologized.  I think he needs to do more.  I’m sure GLAAD could find some do-good pro-LGBT project Culliver could work on. If he wants to prove he’s not the hateful bigot he sure sounds like, he should prove it.  Or get out of football, tonight.

Not to mention, look at the Culliver’s original quote about gay people.  The man doesn’t exactly speak the Queen’s English.  He didn’t write that apology (someone ought to ask Culliver what “derogatory” means, I’d bet money he doesn’t know – my point being, it’s hard to be apologetic when you don’t understand the apology because you didn’t write it).  And while I don’t expect him to issue an apology riddled with errors, we need to hear from him directly, in his own words.  And he needs a better explanation than “gosh that looks hurtful in print.”

It also might help were Culliver to actually tweet the apology. He hasn’t yet.  (And while he’s at it, he can get rid of the tweet joking about “mean” women having their period.)

As for the 49ers, they still ought to explain why they suspended Brandon Jacobs last month for criticizing an unnamed coach, and announced it publicly, but haven’t announced any disciplinary action against Culliver.  Was Brandon Jacobs permitted to publicly apologize?  Surely, insulting an anonymous coach (Jacobs simply referred to his “boss”) isn’t nearly as bad as slurring an entire ethnic minority and suggesting it get out of the NFL.  So why the double standard from the San Francisco 49ers?

And finally, what do you think?  Was Chris Culliver’s apology sufficient?  Feel free to weigh in in the comments, below.


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  • Hey you stfu

    Why you apologizing Culliver. Queers dont need to play a MANS sport. Thats whats wrong with this country. Everybody is so scared to offend anybody. Man the future sucks! Stick to your script dude gays need to leave the NFL, gays should not be allowed to get married and they DAMN sure shouldn’t be allowed to adopt kids.

  • Sweetie

    I’m not following you. Also, you and karmanot both need to cool it on the ad hominem insults. It’s getting very tiresome.

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    Sorry if I twisted your knickers. I usually let you do that and just observe. “bigotry with bigotry, bigot.” Is that a declension of some sort?

  • http://www.facebook.com/eve.condon Eve Wartenberg Condon

    Is this problem indicative of an issue with this team, or with American football culture as a whole? I can’t help but see parallels between this homophobic attitude and the powers-that-be tolerating it and the rape case in Steubenville where a bunch of high school football stars who dub themselves the “rape crew” can sexually assault a teenaged girl, tweet jokes and post video about it, and not face any repercussions from their coach or school. Yes, this instance is reprehensible, but I think it’s symptomatic of the sport’s entire culture.

  • mirror

    The 49ers suck if they don’t come out with a strong statement against a hostile workplace, which the Culliver statement is evidence of if it is not answered forcefully by the organization. Once he knows, the employer is responsible for the workplace environment, not the employees. This is especially true in a field with a history of homophobia.

  • mirror

    You are totally twisting my intent, which has been made very clear in this thread and the previous threads on this subject. I’m saying it is fucked up to think it is cool to fight bigotry with bigotry, bigot.

  • mirror

    I wasn’t saying critiquing Culliver is racist.

    I’m saying It is obviously racist to say that Culliver’s statements will only be accepted if they sound like this:

    “I pololgize to thems I be hurtin and offensed”

    All the former Republicans here can’t wait for the day that the culture wars aren’t focussed on gays anymore so they can get back in the cabin with their white brethren.

  • mirror

    So, you support responding to bigotry with bigotry? This is one sad frickin’ thread.

    Of course the 49ers should make a real serious statement.

  • pappyvet

    “I know that you believe you understand what you think I said, but I’m not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant.”

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    Yep, and he is using the word that way and should be suspended.

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    Ouch! Bingo!

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    An understanding of compassion FunMe and a beautiful example of reconciliation. Unfortunately, Culliver is not sincere or contrite. His contempt for gays is as deep rooted as any bigot’s hateful heart. It’s all PR song and dance. The Cicado is wrong, on one issue by mocking Bay area gays who support the 49′ers. We are grievously offended and don’t take this lightly, or believe for a moment that this moron’s apology is sincere. I suggest he do some community work in a homeless gay teen center. That would be amends.

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    So much so, that it is almost hilarious.

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    We better use another metaphor than ‘toast’ some on this site are sooooo sensitive.

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    Thank you!

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    PPffftttt! Sponge Bob thinks of himself as a Porifra first and gay secondly. At least that’s what Pinky tweeted lately.

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    Oh, for Christ’s sake Mirror, why don’t you bake him some muffins and give him warm a glass of milk, because all we meanies are so racist ( or something).

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    Wait, if you called him the ‘N’ word, it would be about them. That’s what dog whistles do.

  • rmthunter

    If you called him an unacceptable name, of course it would register — it’s about him. This was not about him, it was about “them.” That’s entirely different — just ask him.

  • rmthunter

    I ran across a more detailed account after I wrote that, and you’re right — the team really fell down on this one. If they can’t do better, then it’s no wonder Culliver didn’t connect the dots — the environment is doing nothing to reinforce a more accepting attitude.

  • mirth

    A Bad Lip Reading: The NFL

  • Angry Black Gay Man

    Well said, Skeptical Cicada!

  • Angry Black Gay Man

    I am black and found Culliver’s language appalling. Am I racist? I don’t think so. Culliver is a creep, plain and simple.

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    “btw, I’m not mocking the time he wasted in college to get ‘educated’” That’s OK, I’ll do it, because I see absolutely no evidence of it.

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    Yep, The little twit should be suspended. The latest interviews with team management were a repellant blame the victim game.

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    ” who were ready to excuse the homophobia in the interests of your favorite team,” This is completely wrong. You are deliberately conflating team support with the outrageous bigotry of a single player. Don’t you dare paint us with the ‘bigot’ brush. Your thinking is superficial at best.

  • Skeptical Cicada

    I couldn’t care less about his apology. The team is the one that matters, and it completely failed. After all its self-serving rhetoric about zero tolerance, it did nothing but issue a weak statement. No wonder nothing has changed ten years after the team’s previous bigot eruption. Still not one openly gay player. Now we know why.

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    ditto

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    “Cicada are such noisy, ugly insects and they do so much damage.” ROTFL

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    “Pretty words to placate the local queers.” Channeling your inner bigot again Insect.?

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    Wrong, we find it appalling.

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    That’s the terrible irony of Mirror’s internalized ( dare I say it?) racism.

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    Even in a different color it wouldn’t be racist.

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    “I do believe that there are quite a number of African Americans who’ve
    demonstrated repeatedly that their skin color is no barrier to
    intelligence.” Absolutely so!

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    I don’t like your racist apologia if that’s what you mean.

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    “It’s entirely possible he didn’t think about how bigoted his comments were” Try calling him the ‘N’ word, and then have a literate friend write a ‘sweet’ apology to him.

  • Jafafa Hots

    Go niners?

    Pathetic.

    Yeah, civil rights and workplaces free from bigotry are nice and all, but not if it gets in the way of my team winning!!!

    Sounds like a little touch of the same kind of team spirit that helped keep things nice and peaceful at Penn State for so long. I understand that fans there were pissed about their team’s chances getting ruined too when the peace ended.

  • dcinsider

    I can’t stand the Baltimore Ravens, I’m a Patriots fan, but GO RAVENS as they have a pro-gay marriage player and the 49ers have this piece of shit.

  • Jafafa Hots

    If the he used a racial term the same way he uses the word gay, he would be looking for work today.

  • http://www.facebook.com/ttravers1 Tony Travers

    What a pleasant person you aren’t. My account comes through Facebook and I have had it for several years. Again, you make stuff up. Usually I have my own picture there but being a “fan boy” I wanted to support my team. I also emailed the 49ers offices asking for Culliver’s suspension. Cicada are such noisy, ugly insects and they do so much damage.

  • samizdat

    Culliver sounds like an insecure twelve year old. His emotional maturity and development during his childhood and adolescence was obviously a secondary–perhaps even tertiary–concern for those alleged adults around him. Shameful.

  • Skeptical Cicada

    What a nifty new Disqus account you opened two seconds ago in order to troll here and at Joe.My.God.

    Fuck you, fan boy. Post a link when 49ers decide to stand by all their public rhetoric about “zero tolerance” and SUSPEND the little bigot. Until then, you’re just a drooling fan shilling for your team.

  • Skeptical Cicada

    No, but I expect the grown-ups who are employing the little bigots to administer appropriate discipline. That hasn’t happened here.

  • Skeptical Cicada
  • http://www.facebook.com/ttravers1 Tony Travers

    Where do you get all your proof for your statement “There are apparently lots of guys just like Culliver?” First, all professional sports teams have this problem, even tennis. Not excusing it but it’s more than one team and one sport. Second, please stop making up facts to back up your opinions. The religious rights does that crap all the time. I have been a Niners fan for decades and I will continue to do so. No, professional sports are not moving towards equality as quickly as the general population but the Niners are doing a pretty decent job.

  • DonS

    What, you want these multi million dollar goons to maim and destroy the other team and be reasonable human beings as well?I don’t think so. You take some undereducated, arrogant, spoiled, crude MFer like this Culliver guy, and his true feelings are going to come through. He doesn’t have enough sensible neurohs firing upstairs to be clever.

  • Skeptical Cicada

    FAIL. I don’t give a flying fuck what race the bigot is. The employer’s utter failure to address bigotry in its own workplace and its refusal to administer any meaningful discipline even when their noses are rubbed in the problem are absolutely unacceptable. People who are gay first and fans second see it.

  • JohnAGJ

    Exactly.

  • JohnAGJ

    While you’ve made it perfectly clear that race is something you exploit to cover a multitude of sins, including comments and behavior that I have no doubt you wouldn’t tolerate in some of… let’s say a fairer skin complexion. Perhaps instead of criticizing Aravosis’ alleged racism, or that of others here, you should instead engage in some much needed introspection?

  • Skeptical Cicada

    “But the 49ers apparently are doing a poor job of communicating that within the locker room… Culliver’s comments are the same ignorant stuff that was spouted a decade ago, when then-49ers running back Garrison Hearst said, ‘I don’t want any faggots on my team.’”

    http://www.sfgate.com/49ers/article/Culliver-shows-equality-isn-t-here-yet-4237781.php

  • JohnAGJ

    A lack of education and an inability to articulate one’s opinions in a cogent manner isn’t limited to persons of one race. Or are you saying that Culliver’s underwhelming grammatical prowess is due simply to the color of his skin? I do believe that there are quite a number of African Americans who’ve demonstrated repeatedly that their skin color is no barrier to intelligence. The one bringing up race is you, not karmanot, which tells us more about your character than his/hers. If Culliver were white and expressed the same views in the same manner as he did I would expect there to be just as much ridicule of his speech patterns. Go ahead, tell me that if Culliver was a white redneck who gave this viewpoint in the stereotypical manner such folks are said to talk there wouldn’t be all kinds of remarks about dumb, illiterate white Southerners.

  • Krusher

    He’s a mental and moral midget.

  • Skeptical Cicada

    More happy talk, blowing smoke up your ass. Meanwhile, back in the lockerroom the toxic bigotry festers, completely unaddressed by an utterly irresponsible employer without the gumption to even administer meaningful discipline.

  • Skeptical Cicada

    No useful addition in that opinion piece.

  • Skeptical Cicada

    I read every word of the pablum. No suspension, no credibility.

  • Skeptical Cicada

    You sound like somebody who would sell out the entire gay community to win a fucking football game.

  • Skeptical Cicada

    They can’t tell us what they did because they did next to nothing and know it would only exacerbate the controversy.

  • Skeptical Cicada

    Fuck you, fan boy. You were here telling us all to shut the fuck up before anyone even said or did anything.

    You have ZERO credibility.

    Show us the fucking suspension, or YOU shut your fucking mouth.

  • Skeptical Cicada

    Correction: Their drooling fan boys run around making excuses for them and refuse to look at the simple facts that Culliver has exposed: a team pervaded with bigotry which the 49ers have done nothing to eradicate, not even suspend the raving little bigot who has outed them.

    Where is the fucking suspension?
    Where is the fucking suspension?
    Where is the fucking suspension?
    Where is the fucking suspension?
    Where is the fucking suspension?

  • Skeptical Cicada

    Pretty words to placate the local queers. Meanwhile, back in the lockerroom no action whatsoever to eradicate the toxic bigotry.

    You’ve been played for a fucking fool.

  • Skeptical Cicada

    There are apparently lots of guys just like Culliver on the 49ers team, and the team has done nothing to address the festering bigotry in its own ranks–just as they’ve done nothing in this instance to administer meaningful discipline or make any kind of example of him.

    The 49ers have blown so much smoke up your ass that it’s now coming out your mouth.

  • Skeptical Cicada

    You don’t even care about the rabid anti-gay bigotry on the team.

  • Skeptical Cicada

    The 49ers are obviously playing the local gays for fools. They’ve done nothing to eradicate the cesspool of bigotry in their midst. They’re just issuing public statements to keep the local queers off their backs.

  • Skeptical Cicada

    We’ve heard the lip service.

    They’ve obviously done next to nothing to address the toxic bigotry in their own lockerroom, just as they’re refusing to suspend this little bigot. There will be no openly gay player until they do more than issue public relations statements to placate the local queers. They obviously have a major problem and are doing nothing to address it.

  • Skeptical Cicada

    You’re being played for a fool.

    The 49ers have said this to the public. The 49ers have said that to the public. The 49ers have posted a video.

    What this incident exposes is that the 49ers–who happen to be the employer here–have done next to nothing to address toxic bigotry among their employee-players and in their own lockerroom. They can prance around and manipulate you with pretty words all they want. They manifestly have a huge problem in their own lockerroom, and they’ve done next to nothing to eradicate it. You won’t see any openly gay player until they do more than just stroke you with empty public relations gestures.

    In fact, they’re probably laughing that they’ve convinced people like you to run around making excuses for them while they know they’ve done next to nothing to deal with the problem and have no intention of doing anything.

    Where is their suspension of this raving little bigot? They haven’t suspended him because they know that, as he revealed, so many other players agree with him that it would spark an internal rebellion to suspend him.

    Wake the fuck up, fan boy.

  • Skeptical Cicada

    I don’t give a damn about any statement or “apology” from the ignorant bigot or his bigoted PR flak. We’ve all heard the bigotry he spewed, and we all know that any “apology” was written by someone else, forced on him, and is not sincere in the least. It is a ridiculous cultural ritual that folks like GLAAD have promoted. The insulting statement from the PR flak simply confirms what we already know. The cornerback is an ignorant little unreconstructed bigot, who still believes today what he believed yesterday and who will still believe it just as much tomorrow.

    What I care about is the utterly irresponsible behavior of the 49ers management, also know as the EMPLOYER. They have a raving bigot as an employee. In response, they’ve done NOTHING! They issued a patronizing and insulting non-apology and are now trying to shift the entire focus to this little bigot and his PR flak. NO FUCKING WAY! He alleged that MANY of the other players AGREE with him that no openly gay player is welcome in their lockerroom. The team did NOTHING to contradict that, nor even grunt out an apology for it. Where is his suspension?

    What does all this reveal? That the 49ers public image of being gay-supportive is just that: a manufactured public image. This incident shows that they have spent ZERO effort on actually addressing raving bigotry among their own players. They’ve allowed their lockerroom to remain a festering shithole of bigotry while their PR operation has manufactured an utterly fake public image of gay affirmation. This little bigot just shattered that image for them. Why didn’t they immediately suspend him? Because they know that he’s right–that his bigotry so pervades the team that it would generate internal fury if they suspended him. Why has the team never had one openly gay player? Because the team itself–the employer–has done next to nothing to address the pervasive atmosphere of bigotry among its employees.

    Don’t get distracted by what this little raving bigot and his PR flak say. Focus on the employer that has pampered this little bigot, won’t administer any discipline now, and has manifestly done absolutely nothing to educate its players and address the toxic bigotry in its workplace.

    The real scandal here is the 49ers coddling bigotry within the organization while projecting a false image of fair-mindedness to placate the local gays. They are laughing at the local gays whom they’ve convinced to defend them.

  • NorthAlabama

    go ravens

  • Indigo

    A PR release is neither an apology nor a retraction. It’s a PR release.
    Publicity, publicity, publicity.
    Spin. Spin. Spin.
    Revenue. Revenue. Revenue.
    Meanwhile, when Chris is toast, we’ll talk about reconciliation.
    When Chris is toast. Got that, Mr. PR at SF 49ers?

  • rmthunter

    I would guess the apology, which was, according to the article, “a statement released by the team,” underwent a bit of editing — or more likely, someone wrote it for him. That’s pretty much irrelevant: his name’s on it. It’s entirely possible he didn’t think about how bigoted his comments were — we all say things without thinking about the ramifications. He doesn’t seem to have much capacity for self-editing. I’m more dubious about his assertion that that attitude is “not in his heart” — I suspect he’s gotten major crap for this and is realizing he really put his foot in it. If he’s sincere about learning from the experience — even if it’s just learning to keep his big mouth shut, no matter what his feelings really are — that’s a step in the right direction.

    So on that basis, apology accepted.

  • rf7777

    “It was interpreted wrong”

    WTF? How else was it to be interpreted? A bigoted, uneducated cretin unable to judge when it might not be a good time to spout off bigoted, uneducated statements. SF should fire the guy. Not for being homophobic but for being dumber than a bucket of hair and causing such a $hitstorm right before the game.

  • PissedSissy

    So, do PR firms keep boilerplate apologies around to publish when one of their clients goes off on a bigoted rant? This particular “apology” is obviously a cookie-cutter statement.

  • Hippygriff

    Benching him seems to be the appropriate response

  • mirror

    So, this player deliberately went against the coach’s vision of team coherence and nothing happens? Sounds worse than the guy they suspended.

  • Ninong

    John, this article has a lot more background for you. Please read it: http://www.mercurynews.com/sports/ci_22485315/super-bowl-2013-anti-gay-statement-stirs-up

  • Jim Olson

    Culliver was speaking on Media Day, the second most high profile day of the football season after the actual Super Bowl, representing his team in front of millions of fans. He was most certainly representing the 49ers that day. Their immediate and swift reaction should have been to suspend him for the game.

  • Jim Olson

    It was not sufficient, and he should be suspended for Sunday’s game, and not receive a ring if the 49ers win. If the 49ers don’t bench him, NFL should fine the team.

  • http://twitter.com/Olterigo Olterigo

    Doesn’t look at all sincere. Probably his PR guy’s secretary just copied that out of the standard apologies list.

  • http://AMERICAblog.com/ John Aravosis

    I do agree about the PR guy. I’ve ghost written for plenty of people who didn’t have my education. And you talk to them and then write in their words. Yes you make it grammatically correct, but you use their words. That apology wasn’t even vaguely inspired by this man, I just do not believe it.

  • citizen_spot

    To be fair, they weren’t 4 days away from the Superbowl a month ago. There is supposed to be a press conference tomorrow. I plan to wait and see what comes out of that. I would hope that they would make public any fines or disciplinary action, but given the media fishbowl that is the week leading up to the big game, they may try to diminish this as a distraction. That would be a mistake in my opinion. We shall see.

  • FunMe

    ” And while I don’t expect him to issue an apology riddled with errors, we need to hear from him directly, in his own words.”

    EXACTLY! And let him be interviewed by the press and see what he really says.

    It’s true. When someone says or does something wrong to someone (or a group of people), it’s all about really being honest about your apology and making amends. I know that in my own life. I just had a friend that I’ve known for 10 years visit me last weekend. He did me wrong when I last visited NYC over a year ago, and we hadn’t spoken since. Last week he called for and asked to meet up. He ended up coming over to my house. We just talked as if nothing had happened. I saw that he made an effort to reach out to me. Why relive the past even if he was wrong? I knew he would come back eventually “my kiddo” (my friend is younger than me). Yes I missed him. I was impressed that he did something to make up for his wrongs by calling me and coming over to visit after not seeing each other for over a year. The best part: he brought real champagne!

    So yes, it takes more than an apology to be sincere. ;-)

  • Ninong
  • NCMan

    it could only be considered racist if Mirror is under the impression that all African Americans are under educated and not capable of speaking proper English.

  • Ninong

    It was over-the-top “racist” to make a point. The point being that this 24-yr-old, high-paid jock, who grew up in Philly and who majored in “sports and entertainment management” at South Carolina is an idiot. It was very funny!

    It would have been racist in a different context, but not in this context.

  • Ninong

    I thought it was funny. I didn’t think it was racist. It would have been very racist in a different context but in your context it was funny. LOL

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  • NCMan

    If the team has “addressed” the matter with the player, why can’t they tell us what action they have taken? They were happy to tell the public what action they took one month ago with the player who made comments about the team and coach. So, it’s not like they have any internal policy against speaking about these matters in public.

  • Ninong

    Coach Jim Harbaugh said a month ago that he would welcome an openly-gay player on the 49ers. He was quoted again in a story just last week. Here it is: http://outsports.com/jocktalkblog/2013/01/23/san-francisco-49ers-coach-jim-harbaugh-would-be-fine-with-an-openly-gay-player/

  • NCMan

    It’s not racist at all. It might be elitist though. I would have said the same about an ignorant homophobic cracker who couldn’t conjugate a verb or write a complete sentence.

  • NCMan

    Well, it doesn’t really “get better” if they only uphold their values when the timing is “convenient” for them. If you are going to talk the talk, you need to walk the walk as well. Even if it’s 4 days before the Super Bowl.

  • darklight_413

    You know, there was a time when black people weren’t allowed in professional sports. If someone would’ve come out and said something derogatory about black people in sports do you think that they wouldn’t be fired on the spot? Yeah, I understand that homophobia is on the decline. The reason is that when people do something like this it’s starting to blow up in their face. I’ve seen some other sports boards, however, where they’re saying pretty nasty things about gays now because he got in trouble and somehow we’re trampling his right to free speech by being upset. He said some pretty bad things and we’re getting the blame. And it doesn’t help that he was “forced” to apologize. Personally I think it’s bullshit that we still have to take shit from these guys. Yeah, the 49ers are trying to be allies and you’ll notice that no one is saying that the 49ers suck because of what he said. He’s said it, he needs to own it and we need to stop getting blamed for his homophobia.

  • mirror

    No one who is just like you questions their support. I understand that.

  • mirror

    That’s good. Why the half-baked response then? I don’t get it. Why don’t they reiterate that commitment when one of their players says it would not be acceptable or allowed in the club house?

  • Ninong

    I don’t question their support and I do want them to win the Super Bowl. Why don’t you check with gay people in San Francisco and see if they question the support of the 49ers. No one questions their support. Well, no one who knows them questions their support.

  • mirror

    If you don’t believe Culliver that’s fine. But, you are mocking him because any person with his social status and income who doesn’t get help to craft a clear respectful public statement would be looked on as not caring, and you yourself would be criticizing him for his disrespect in not even getting help to write a good statement.

    I get it. You want someone punished and/or a clearer critique from the 49ers management and ownership. But with this approach you are not only making clear that you and the racists here were not going to accept an apology no matter what, but also making yourself look bad in the process.

  • mirror

    You like this racist analysis? I’m really disappointed in you.

  • Ninong

    mirror,
    The 49ers have already said publicly that they would welcome an open-gay football player on their team. Where have you been? The coach said that ages ago.
    Why get all bent out of shape over a team that really does support LGBT equality? The very first NFL team to make an It-Gets-Better video. The team to publicly state that an openly-gay player would be welcome on their team.

  • mirror

    That is straight up racist shit there man.

  • Ninong

    John, your position is that the team must suspend Culliver or do something else other than what they have done. I get that. I just don’t think that’s anything to be making such a big deal over at this time.

    Why? Because you’re picking on the wrong team, John. You’re picking on one of the good guys. Let’s leave it up to them to deal with him the way they see fit. I couldn’t care less what they do with him. He’s a jackass! Already several of his teammates have made public statements criticizing what he said.

    Please go back and read the team’s statement again. What’s wrong with it? They rejected his comments and said they would “address” the matter with him. They said they fully support gay rights. We already know that. The coach said ages ago that the 49ers would welcome an openly-gay player.

    I’m just not comfortable with nitpicking a team that actually really and truly does support LGBT equality days before they play in the Super Bowl. This incident is way, way overblown. We know what the guy said. A lot of 24-yr-old football players from South Carolina probably feel the same way. Actually he’s from Philly but he majored in “sports and entertainment management” at South Carolina. (He probably flunked!) LOL
    Oh, well….
    Go Niners!

  • mirror

    I question their support. You mostly want to win the superbowl.

  • iamlegion

    Culliver’s apology is about as lame a “I was told to go say I’m sorry” non-apology as ever I’ve heard.

  • mirror

    Hey, as you know from my comments on the other thread, I’m not ok with letting this slide, either on the part of Culliver or the 49ers. However, why shouldn’t someone get some help writing an important public statement?

    For those of you who were ready to excuse the homophobia in the interests of your favorite team, but are now criticizing a fairly well crafted apology because it doesn’t sound ignorant and uneducated enough, I say you are being racist or classist, and probably both, in pretty shitty way.

    I’m still waiting for the 49ers to say public ally that they support gays playing football and will do their utmost to support and defend player who comes out now and any future out football player on the 49ers or anywhere in the NFL. I’m not holding my breath, though.

    Culliver needs to fire his PR guy.

  • http://AMERICAblog.com/ John Aravosis

    Actually, I do. And a lot of people do, today. And if he doesn’t represent them or the sport, then why didn’t they punish him? They canned Brandon Jacobs last month for writing some tweets criticizing his “boss,” who he didn’t even name. But Culliver basically defames all gay people, says they should get out of the sport, when he could have a closeted gay teammate or “boss,” and they don’t discipline him. So, I”m sorry, but that’s not pro LGBT. That’s a double standard that when you criticize the boss you get canned, but you blast a boss that might be gay, you’re forgiven. Why didn’t the other gay get to issue an apology?

  • http://AMERICAblog.com/ John Aravosis

    And as I said in my article, I’m not trying to mock the man’s obvious lack of education, but if he’s going to issue an apology, and it clearly includes words not in his vocabulary, then why should we have any faith that it truly reflects his views? If he can’t even understand it?

  • Don Chandler

    Doesn’t anyone consider that guy might be closeted in a homophobic sport? I mean really.

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    “”I pololgize to thems I be hurtin and offensed” that’s funny. Also, “Those discriminating feelings are truly not in my heart” Sounds an awful lot like that ‘sweet’ stuff.

  • Jim

    where’s the petition to bench him???

  • sherman

    Sure Culliver has now given an apology, but since I’m told I misinterpreted his original remark, how can I be sure I didn’t misinterpret his apology?

  • NCMan

    It’s quite obvious that the apology was not written by him. All the verbs were conjugated correctly and he said “they are” instead of “there”.

  • http://www.bloomsburyreview.com Webster

    “I don’t do that. No, we don’t got no gay people on the team, they gotta get up out of here if they do.”

    My, such an *articulate* young man. Someone should remind him that it’s wise to wear a helmet when he plays.

  • Ninong

    He sounds like someone who went to South Carolina and majored in “sports and entertainment management” doesn’t he? He must have failed his finals. LOL

  • Ninong

    John, this whole thing is really much ado about nothing. There are lots of guys like Culliver in this world. He doesn’t represent the 49ers and he doesn’t speak for his teammates, who have already spoken out criticizing his remarks.
    The 49ers are very supportive of the LGBT community in the Bay Area. No one questions their support. No one!

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    “were a reflection of thoughts in my head, but they are not how I feel” Oh, please.

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