Scalia’s son, Paul, works for crazy Catholic group that “cures” gays

Michael McGough in today’s LA Times reminds us that virulently anti-gay Republican Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia has a son, Paul, who’s a priest, and works for an organization that pretends it can “pray away the gay.”

The Catholic group, Courage, is one of various “gay cure” who peddle the lie that with a little bit of love, and manliness, you too can learn to have sex with women, or something.

Here’s the portion of the LA Times story that covers Paul Scalia:

The notion that there are no homosexual people, just homosexual acts, is an ancient one.  Until recently it was the attitude of the Roman Catholic Church.  Scalia’s son Paul, a Catholic priest who has served as chaplain to Courage – “a spiritual support group to help those with same-sex attractions live chaste lives” – continues to resist the idea of a gay identity.  He has written: “We must always distinguish the person from the attractions. Most errors in this area come from the reduction of the person to the attractions: to say,  ‘A person who has homosexual attractions must be homosexual.’  This reduces the human person to the sum total of his sexual inclinations.”

In a 2005 article in the magazine First Things, Paul Scalia warned against the labeling of high school students as “gay” and even took the Vatican to task  for using the term “homosexual person,” which, the younger Scalia said, “suggests that homosexual inclinations somehow determine, which is to say confine, a person’s identity.”  Of course, this is a straw man; psychologists and other who speak of a gay identity don’t argue that “gay” is an exhaustive description of an individual’s personality traits, only that there is more to being gay or lesbian than participation in sexual acts.

Someone sounds awfully worried about this notion of being defined by one’s “homosexual inclinations.”

I’ve found, over the years, that a lot of people who don’t think “homosexuals” exist, and who recoil at the notion that “a person who has homosexual attractions must be homosexual,” tend to actually be gay themselves.  Or bisexual.

There’s a reason people on the anti-gay right think being gay is like alcoholism, or that it’s described as an “urge” rather than an orientation, because for many of them I wonder if it isn’t an urge that pulls at them like alcohol pulls at an alcoholic.  It’s not something theoretical – it’s something they’re experience directly, and they loathe.

I’m not saying that Antonin Scalia’s son Paul is gay.  I’m saying that generically, over the years, when I’ve heard people talk this way – people who seem fixated on “homosexual inclinations” and not being defined as “gay” simply because you desperately want to have sex with men –  it’s always made me wonder if they’re not gay themselves, and if that’s not why they’re so focused on “evil” uncontrollable urges.

It also would explain why their hypothetical fathers so clearly have issues.

I have to dig a bit more into Scalia, the son’s, crazy article linked from the LA Times piece.  In the other piece, Scalia rails against the notion of calling teenagers “gay” or “bi” or “trans”:

Of course, the phrases are tempting because of their convenience and efficiency. They are common, close at hand, and make quick work of a difficult issue. But they also identify an individual person with his homosexual inclinations. They presume that a person is his inclinations or attractions; he is a “gay” or is a “homosexual.” At some point adults have to admit that a fifteen-year-old who claims to be “a questioning transgendered bisexual” is really just confused.

Yeah, because what young guy hasn’t thought that maybe he was really a girl?  Is Scalia out of his mind?  Most straight kids don’t think they’re gay.  And most non-trans kids don’t question if they’re trans.  It’s something that crosses your mind because something is already there, something is going on, something that most other kids aren’t experiencing, certainly not to the degree you are.

Calling it “confused” is, well, confused.  And yet again, makes me wonder more about the person making the allegation than about the kids themselves.

And for extra shi*s and giggles, here’s a video of a Catholic priest rapping about how the Catholic church still loves you, even though you’re going to hell. It’s reportedly produced by Courage, the anti-gay Catholic cure group that Scalia belongs to. Just to give you a sense of what, and who, we’re dealing with here:


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  • http://twitter.com/eshowoman Friday Foster-ABWW

    Paul Scalia is gayer that Richard Simmons bootie shorts.

  • Ned_Flaherty

    Paul Scalia’s history and work bear the 10 classic signs of a severely repressed homosexual in extreme denial:

    • Paul’s father insists that lesbian, gay, and bisexual people are equal to criminals.
    • He doesn’t want his father to treat him as a criminal.

    • Paul chose a career where celibacy is both a qualification and a job duty.
    • His celibacy allows him to avoid facing his own sexual orientation.
    • Although celibate for life, he says he knows the “full truth of human sexuality.”
    • He teaches that ethics in sex is possible only when procreation is the focus.

    • Paul surrounds himself with gay men (Catholic priests and Courage ministry customers).
    • He excuses all gay men from guilt by labeling them “confused.”
    • He claims that homosexuals are just heterosexuals with “same-gender attractions/inclinations.”
    • He says LGBT students are caused by “heterosexual unchastity.”

    These are the classic, religious superstitions in which the fiction of reparative therapy is rooted. They are the disproved lies that repressed homosexuals recite to prop up their denial.

    Exactly how long Paul Scalia will continue posing as a celibate cleric isn’t clear, but the days of quack therapists selling “ex-gay” therapy are clearly numbered.

  • Mudduck

    Fine. Give Paul Scalia his point about gay identity — we are all different, after all. Let kids be kids, one of the group. And let boys who want to, date other boys; and let girls date girls. No identity involved; just do what comes naturally. (Identities are created in response to repression anyway — people with same-sex desires were forced to create their own communities by the opposition of the majority. Black culture grew within the walls of white hostility. Our old landlord said that in Russia, he was considered a Jew; in the US, he’s considered Russian. People in China identify with their home region; only here do they all become “Chinese.” Paul Scalia is unselfconsciously arguing for a post-gay society, but he won’t like it when it happens.

  • Austin

    Humm father and son both like wearing black dresses, me thinks they have a VERY CLOSE relationship VERY CLOSE.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Kelly-R-Burnett/1412511530 Kelly R Burnett

    If he’s a priest the chances he is gay are out 75/25, they flock to the church to please the family and escape the question of why they aren’t married. It’s a successful ploy.

    • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

      So true—-speaking from the pews.

  • http://www.facebook.com/cg.hobbyist Cg Hobbyist

    Curing homosexuality?! HahahaH!

    Oh my dear god, wth are these guys thinking. Try curing autism with therapy… Guess what, you cant! Its the same…

    http://www.empowernetwork.com/cghobbyist/

  • jomicur

    Rutherford B. Hayes got elected governor of Ohio by promising to drive all the Catholics out of the state. It does not become you and me to sneer at Rutherford B. Hayes.

  • Ba’al

    What I find most strange about this story is that Fat Tony Scalia was actually able to breed.

    • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

      virgin birth?

  • http://twitter.com/AnnRynd Ann Rynd

    It’s a family affair. Fighting the gay impulses which afflict the Scalia males. Fr. Scalia is about his father’s business.

  • Timothy

    AH HA! Now things being to fall right into place! We can now understand Scalia’s abhorrence of the homosex: His very own beloved son is a fruit! We know this, becase it is a well established fact that these anti-gay therapy outfits are nothing more than dating services for massively screwed up christians. The guys who ‘work’ there are just there to cruise. Time and time again, you hear about the clients getting jumped by the therapist. I mean you tell me, what other factor would motivate some fucked up catholic kid to go into this particular line of work? HA-HA! How this delightful fact must stab at Scalia’s shriveled heart every waking hour!

  • rmthunter

    Another reductio ad absurdum from another Scalia.

    So, does calling Scalia the Younger a “Catholic” define him? (Although I suspect in his case, it might.)

  • http://buddybest.tripod.com/index.html BuddyNovinski

    The Catholic hierarchy is obesessed with sex, and trying to stop it. Augustine is the source, and at one time, the hierarchy considered banning sex altogether, until they realized (as did the Albigensians later), that the human race would die out! Apparently, none of them took their cues from nature. Nature tends to create diversity to expand life and survive. The conclustion must be that homosexuality is natural and serves a purpose toward survival. Otherwise, God has made mistakes in nature!

  • A reader in Colorado

    Um … recusal? Demand? Anybody?

    What do any of these articles mean, what is even the point? If not to demand a Scalia recusal?

    If pointing out that Scalia and his entire family are massively homophobic is relevant at all, it is to scream to the entire world that he should not be on the bench judging these cases.

    If that point isn’t going to be demanded or made, what’s the point?

    • Sweetie

      We all know he won’t recuse himself because he’s a fool, but articles like this are designed to let people know what’s going on. It’s better than being kept in the dark, right?

      • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

        right

  • buffalo skinner

    As somone who knows Paul… I don’t think he’s gay: he’s just mean. Never understood the priest thing because he has zero empathy for others. And he is seriously conservative.

    • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

      Son like father—–genetic sociopaths.

    • http://twitter.com/AnnRynd Ann Rynd

      Yeah, it’s sort of not important if he’s gay or not. He’s just twisted in a way that many straight men are because they have fathers who are cruel and twisted. We don’t need to insist that our enemies are just self hating gays. Those who hate us come in every shape and size. Fight the real enemy-the pope, Scalia, the Tea party, Rick Santorum.

    • Stev84

      A lot of people without empathy are drawn into religious leadership. It really rewards their sociopathic behavior and allows them to control other people to an extend almost nothing else does.

  • Ann Stauner

    Actually, what Paul Scalia says is exactly why I don’t think LGBTs should be discriminated against in any way, especially so in terms of state recognition of their marriages that is in addition to the issue of equal protection of the laws. It is the quality of the person that defines the relationship, not how they have sex. I think one of the reasons why they are so adamant that the state should not recognize gay marriages is precisely because they don’t want to admit that there can be any other component to a gay relationship than sexual. But when you see these couples that have been together for 40 some years, and have extended and happy families, one can see that this is manifestly not true.

  • FLL

    Even the mainstream media is beginning to connect the dots concerning Antonin Scalia’s lack of fitness to rule on the marriage equality cases. I’m glad people are keeping track of the steadily growing mountain of evidence for Justice Scalia to recuse himself. Either the lawyers or his fellow justices can ask him; I’m not sure, but I don’t think Justice Scalia is actually obliged to recuse himself even if asked. Only steadily growing outrage from all corners of American society will force the issue.

    • Naja pallida

      Sadly, Supreme Court Justices have no obligation to avoid conflicts of interest, nor recuse themselves from cases where they are obviously never going to be able to rule with impartiality. Even if Roberts specifically asked Scalia to recuse himself, he still doesn’t have to… and he seriously doesn’t seem to me like the kind of guy who would ever bow to public pressure. If challenged, he’ll just dig in deeper, like some kind of sociopathic tick.

      • FLL

        I agree with your comment that Scalia isn’t obliged to honor even a request from Chief Justice Roberts. And of course, Scalia doesn’t care about public opinion. I just think that it couldn’t hurt for the media and public to make a huge stink about Scalia’s lack of impartiality, which might influence the other justices to dig in their heels and refuse to give Scalia what he wants.

        • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

          The way to get Scalia or Thomas off the active bench is to investigate and find criminal activity to try and thus place their activities in public dishonor. Otherwise, they consider themselves above the law—-perfect irony.

      • Papa Bear

        ‘sociopathic tick’ — I’ve been looking for the right words to describe Scalia. Thank you!

        • Naja pallida

          Actually, he’s more like sociopathic herpes, since it is possible to be rid of ticks.

          • Papa Bear

            I was thinking more about the visual — he kinda looks like a boated tick, burying his dead under your skin until the irritation drives you crazy…

  • caphillprof

    Not really very American to send your son “home” to Italy to become a priest. Antonin has absolutely no business being on the Supreme Court of the United States.

  • http://oldgaylawyer.blogspot.com/ Eamon O’Connor

    Justice Scalia’s son was educated at one of the pontifical universities in Rome and was ordained to the diaconate in Rome in 1995 and ordained a priest the following year. Given his conservative theological leanings, his connections, his pedigree and his famous father I suspect that Fr. Scalia will be ordained a bishop one of these days. Oh Joy Joy!! He will get to play dress up each and every day!

    • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

      Yep, and he then can click his ruby red slippers.

  • Skeptical Cicada

    John nailed it. The kid’s comments reek of self-loathing closet case.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/James-Stone/1630193503 James Stone

    It’s not very comforting to know that this guy’s father is going to decide whether my partner and I after 21 years is going to decide if we someday will be able to marry and have the same civil rights as the woman I work with who has been married three times.

    I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. The biggest obstacle to gay rights comes not from straight people but from closeted gay people suffering from internal homophobia

  • mirror

    From the link to his homily sunlit uplands:

  • mirror

    In all honesty, I would suggest that a guy like Paul Scalia who makes a vow in his early 20s to give up sex and romantic love for the rest of his life is potentially waaaay more troubled than a 15 you who thinks he might be “a questioning transgendered bisexual.”

    But yes, he’s in the classic refuge for (self-denying or not) gays in a gay-hating family….

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Austin-Rozzell/1741018449 Austin Rozzell

    aww you removed my comment on Scat-lia
    why

    • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

      What about ‘disgusting’ you don’t understand?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Austin-Rozzell/1741018449 Austin Rozzell

    That makes so much sense now, Scat-lia is a big old closet case, the last time he had sex with a female was when his wife used a turkey baster to make their son, his son is gay, and Dad Scat-lia is afraid that people will see just how father is like his gay son. I wonder how many time Daddy Scat-lia abused his son. I find it odd the both like to wear black dresses. HUMMMM

    • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

      Yuck troll.

  • Steve_in_CNJ

    Well-adjusted people aren’t worried about being defined by their
    sexuality. That’s a neurosis akin to wanting to scratch your skin off.

  • Steve_in_CNJ

    Well-adjusted people aren’t worried about being defined by their sexuality. That’s a neurosis akin to wanting to scratch your skin off.

  • http://fighttherightwingnuts.blogspot.com/ mike31c

    Well, everyone knows the bigger the homophobic asshole they are, the bigger bottom the are in bed!

  • tedhayes

    Can the Catholic Church cure Scaliatitis?

  • http://www.rebeccamorn.com/mind BeccaM

    I’d give anything for Paul Scalia to be hooked up to one of those penis engorgement measuring machines and shown a few hours of hardcore gay male porn… and then the results of his physical reactions to be made public.

    And then for us all to get to watch, on national TV, Papa Antonin’s reaction.

    • Skeptical Cicada

      LOL! I agree.

      Exhibit A: fled from unhealthy sexual relationships by going into the priesthood.

    • Sweetie

      An estimated 1% of people have no sex drive. It would not surprise me if they are the ones who are responsible for the religious idea that sex drive is evil and the path to spirituality is through denial.

      • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

        Going back to Augustine and Aquinas I see.

        • Sweetie

          1% may seem like a small number, but we know how much wealth/resources/power the top 1% control. Is it so difficult to believe that it’s far easier to make the claim that sex is a terrible thing if one doesn’t have a sex drive and thus sees sexual behavior as hardly impressive?

          I don’t know about you, but the way I perceive some sex acts prior to orgasm and after orgasm changes. Sexual desires/ideas can suddenly become even embarrassing or regrettable once the hormones change. This is one of the reasons why “rough trade” used to be so rough. Once the hormones changed (after ejaculation), the attitude toward sex went south.

          I am not arguing that all heterosexism/homophobia comes from the estimated 1% of people with no sex drive. What I am saying is that those people have likely had significant influence during the course of human history, and it makes very good sense that some of them would claim that sex is horrible and the path to improvement is to deny it. After all, they already do. It is human nature to try to find a way to feel/seem superior to others.

  • drdick52

    Yeah, I am sure they “cure” gays, much like they “cured” witches in the Middle Ages.

    • http://www.rebeccamorn.com/mind BeccaM

      Or Jews during the Inquisition.

  • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

    “has a son, Paul, who’s a priest”—In a nut’s shell.

  • Fifi

    Eh! Someone is going to have to recuse himself…

    • http://oldgaylawyer.blogspot.com/ Eamon O’Connor

      he really should under 28 USC 455 (a) but he wont and there is no way to compel it.

      • Fifi

        Yes, it’s up to Scalia unless his fellow justices ask him politely.

        I know Scalia is a sociopath who loves to piss off everybody else and openly despise his ‘liberal’ colleagues, but he actually has to work with them everyday.

        And if the request comes from Roberts, Scalia would have to butt off, like it or not. And Roberts is a conservative but he’s also a keen politician who doesn’t want to be seen on the wrong side of public opinion.

        So, time to make some noise…

        • dcinsider

          SCOTUS is a different animal. They are simply not required to play by the same rules as all other federal judges. Scalia will NEVER recuse himself, ever. Period. Recusal requires a level of self introspection that he is incapable of engaging in. He will deliver an opinion, either drafting the minority opinion or giving a separate dissenting opinion that will rage against the majority and predict the downfall of American society. The man is off the rails, and his slow mental decline evidenced by his increasingly odd behavior, is becoming apparent to every court watcher. However, we are stuck with him for another decade at least, unless divine intervention (I’m an Atheist) occurs. So all you believers, get on your knees because we need your buddy to deliver a big one on this guy but soon. :)

  • jm2

    he is pastor at a Latin-mass, back to the congregation church. don’t say Opus Dei to me…

  • FunMe

    That FASCIST pig (in more ways than one) needs to be booted out of the PropH8 hearings. Like now!

    • FLL

      Lawyers are hesitant to ask a judge to recuse himself unless they’re sure the judge is a bigot, but the evidence against Scalia is becoming overwhelming, isn’t it?

      • Sweetie

        Even if they were to ask, which I wouldn’t hold my breath for, he won’t. It’s pure fantasy to think he would.

        • Stev84

          It would still be fun to do it, just to have it on the record. As said, it’s impossible for him to be any more biased so it doesn’t hurt

        • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

          True, Scalia has absolutely no sense of justice.

          • Sweetie

            “‘This court has never held,’ Scalia wrote, ‘that the Constitution forbids the execution of a convicted defendant who had a full and fair trial but is later able to convince a habeas court that he is ‘actually’ innocent.’”

            In other words, he thinks it’s just fine to kill innocent people.

  • 2patricius2

    Well, I guess if there are no such things as homosexuality or bisexuality or transgender identity, there is no such thing as heterosexuality either.

    Courage is a crock. The organization teaches that gay people should gather in groups to work a 12 step program, as though they had a problem such as alcoholism or sexual addiction or drug abuse – even though sexual orientation is not an illness. Gay people are expected to never have sex, and are expected to meditate, read spiritual writings, and go to mass daily and receive communion and make confessions frequently. In other words, gay people are supposed to live like a lot of priests do not even live.

  • nicho

    I knew a guy who was a victim of the Courage group. He had his problems going in — mostly around poor social skills and church-induced guilt about being gay, which were not unrelated. They totally fucked him up.

    • http://www.facebook.com/kurt.steinbach Kurt David Steinbach

      In more ways than one. Wonder if he was ever an Altar Boy?

  • Jim

    This is a no-brainer:

    1. man becomes a priest

    2. man works for ex-gay org and with “ex-gays”

    3. man hates anything to do with gays

    4. man has a gay hating father

    Man is gay.

    • http://www.rebeccamorn.com/mind BeccaM

      …and has spent his entire adult life in denial.

      • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

        Especially about that little black dress!

        • http://twitter.com/BillFromDover Bill from Dover

          If this nut-job believes he can pray away the gay, why not test it out on the priesthood?

        • FLL

          We’d call it a little black dress. He’d call it a basic black dress.

    • jixter

      You’ve said it as concisely as it can be said, Jim. I tip my hat to you.

    • Sweetie

      Perhaps. However, although it’s the fashion to blame all heterosexism on gays now, the fact is that it gets its authority from the heterosexual majority. Victim-blaming is really not a great plan if one cares about fixing the actual underlying problem.

      This is like saying all Nazis were closeted Jews and gays, all racists secretly lust for blacks, and other absurdities. Of course there were SOME people who fit such descriptions but they are not the majority.

      It is estimated that around 1% of people have no sex drive. The priesthood offers them a place where they can not only be free of sexual demands but also free to condemn gay people for their sex drive. To these people, sex drive can seem to be irrational and a matter of strange choice.

      • fritzrth

        Thank you, Sweetie. I’ve been saying this for a long time. Claiming every homophobic bigot is secretly gay is no different from claiming every white supremacist is secretly black. Anytime someone says something anti-gay, it’s become a knee-jerk reaction to claim they are gay. It seems incomprehensible to some people that homophobic bigots can be hatemongers simply because they hate. No more, no less.

        • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

          Or that any asshole is secretly a Republican.

        • Sweetie

          Or, simply because they don’t have empathy. They don’t care about us. That’s the more common explanation, frankly.

          Moreover, they perceive it as being good business. A business/political opportunity = money/power/prestige.

          • Don Chandler

            Or simply because they come from an institution that puts self preservation ahead of reality. I often read folks saying the Cathotlic Church needs to control their members … especially since they can’t change their catholic precepts. And It does takes a lot of money to maintain a bureaucracy. And how do they backtrack on the infallibility of the pope??? Or the concept that Father knows best??? Or the idea that the Bible is “DEAD DEAD DEAD DEAD DEAD” or in other words, not a living document subject to re-interpretation or change for the better???

            It’s an intractable organization and only serves those folks without flexible minds.. like Senator Scalia and his eunuch son and their infallible pope. They want to divide and conquer homosexuals. We are a threat. But hey, so are strong willed women with leadership capabilities.

            Don’t like the characterization of Paul as a self hating gay or insensitive and unquestioningly loyal eunuch? How bout misguided fool bent on changing others rather than changing himself or his church: “If we strip them from their homosexual self-identity, we can irradicate their sin and salvage their soul”–Paul sounds un-empathetic to the point of being either diabolical or dangerously uniformed or overzealous… is there a difference? Not really. Same result, persecution of modern gays to preserve a closeted gay cult ;)

      • jomicur

        Multiple studies have shown it to be the case. Not in every instance–certainly not–but in the preponderance of them.

      • http://adgitadiaries.com/ karmanot

        “The priesthood offers them a place where they can not only be free of sexual demands ” Honestly Sweetie this reasoning is hilarious and ridiculous. Men enter the priesthood for spiritual reasons. During my time in the joint I found that an easy 70% of my brothers were—yes, gay and followed the conditions of their vows (pardon the pun) religiously.

        • Sweetie

          Recognizing the influence of the estimated 1% of people with no sex drive requires a paradigm shift for most people, and so they’re likely to react exactly as you did.

          But, blaming gays for heterosexism and homophobia is easy. Victim blaming always is.

          The fact is that heterosexism gets its power from the heterosexual majority. That many gays choose to support that prejudice doesn’t change that. And, when gay people try to pretend that everyone who’s anti-gay is gay, they’re doing nothing but furthering the cause of heterosexism.

          Now THAT is ridiculous, but not hilarious.

        • http://twitter.com/eshowoman Friday Foster-ABWW

          The ban on marriage was imposed because the Church did not want their assets going to wives and children. It was greed not sexual preference.

      • http://twitter.com/eshowoman Friday Foster-ABWW

        You could make that claim if so many of these anti-gay bozos did not get caught with buff rough trade. These anti-gay clowns spend more time talking about gay sex than most gay people. If it quacks like a duck and waddles like a duck, it is a duck.

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