Joe Scarborough: “There is something immoral” about low tax rates for rich

Yes, there is something immoral about the rich paying so little in the US.

It’s even more immoral to listen to the Moocher Class – like Lloyd Blankfein, Erskine Bowles, Alan Simpson and Carly Fiorina – talk about how necessary it is to gut the social safety system for the middle class.

How curious that the very people demanding these cuts are all terribly rich and financially comfortable, and never have to even think about healthcare coverage, Social Security or Medicare. Fiorina, for example, has benefited enormously from the tax code that helped corporations throw money at failures.

Can anyone cite a single time when Alan Simpson or Erskine Bowles proposed cutting their political class healthcare or retirement benefits? Like the rest of the protected class – including many in the Obama administration, who are eagerly going along with this made-up “crisis” – none have ever taken serious steps to cut their own juicy benefits. The attacks are always on middle class workers, never the elite.

Americans are a forgiving bunch, but people are scared about the future. Even with Obamacare, healthcare costs are still high and yes, many people are counting on Social Security in their old age. Maybe they would be more understanding if they saw more “we’re all in this together” attitudes among the super-rich, and saw the political class proposing radical cuts for themselves first. Until that is proposed and approved, they should all quit the fear-mongering.

Alongside of this is the absolute ingratitude of moochers like Lloyd Blankfein and his Wall Street buddies. Besides having ridiculously low tax rates that the country can’t afford, they received billions of direct taxpayer dollars and trillions of indirect money. So what did the middle class taxpayers get for this generosity? Complaining by the rich and the cheerleaders of the rich about how the middle class needs to suck it up and accept cuts.

Don’t forget that the next time they screw up and need our tax dollars to come to the rescue.

So to come back to Scarborough’s point, is it immoral for the rich to pay such low taxes and demand so much? Yes, and it’s time to stop enabling them and those in the political class that play the game. Voters made choices in November, and now it’s time for the political class, especially Obama and the Democrats, to react accordingly.

People didn’t vote for Obama so he could be an active participant in this fiscal cliff lie. Obama and his team need to stop playing along with this deception by The 1% crowd, and stand up for those who voted for him.

The real problem is that it appears as though Obama is a very willing participant to this game, and that he actually believes it. Why else would his team be spreading fear and suggesting cuts are coming that will upset Democratic voters?

An American in Paris, France. BA in History & Political Science from Ohio State. Provided consulting services to US software startups, launching new business overseas that have both IPO’d and sold to well-known global software companies. Currently launching a new cloud-based startup. Full bio here.

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  • Joe scarborough going on about Obama letting corporations get away with something? Isn’t Bigmouth Joe the guy who was rooting for Mitt “I’m-a-friend-of-Corporations” Romney to win the Presidency?

  • hollywoodstein

    really? why isn’t there a better pundit class? Yes, I know manufacturing consent and dancing dave gregory, and mark halperin, and howie kurtz, et al are doing their function admirably, and in sports prognostication you can be wrong all the time too as long as you entertain, but really these are great jobs, six and seven figures, there are thousands of photogenic and learned peeps graduating every year. In pro ball if you lose half a step you’re done. There is someone better to replace you. But in pundit land you can stay on decades past your due date. Witness Broder, or Will or NOOnan or Cokie or Krauthammer. But the replacements are equally embarassing, Luke Russert, SE Cupp, Russ Douthat, and Krystal Ball !!!! Really, that is the best producers can do? They should resign in shame.
    I’ve dated way more attractive, way smarter, and way better read people all through various college tours. They know American history, European history, World history, philosophy, politics, science, etc. We all have. They exist. They are not especially hard to find. They would be profoundly better than the current crop. And for conservatives especially. There is a conservative case to be made. I don’t agree with it, a lot has to do with choosing your premises and reasoning from there, but there is a case to be made. Please contact me, I will give you my old black books of every sensible brilliant person I have ever dated. Any one of which would transform cable news.
    And not HuffPosts hire of not unattractive twenty or thirty something young people who are impressed and drone on that someone retweeted a pic 2k times. No you are not the future of news. News is the future of news.

  • hollywoodstein

    Joe Scar / Scar Joe a true member of the parasite class, like O’Reilly on climate change or Huntsman on Republican crazy sniff the changing winds and tries to rehabilitate themselves. Don’t let them. Cashier them.

  • I agree with much of what you said, but he’s still a useful barometer for where the Republicans are going. If he thought there was no chance of taxes being raised on the rich, or that it would hurt the GOP brand to allow the taxes on the rich to go up, then he’d be singing a different tune.

  • lynchie

    Joe S. is a total hypocrit. He declares his obsession with Regan almost daily but denies he raised taxes, denies Iran/contra happened. He is a shill for the right wing. I want someone, anyone to ask the 1% what they have against the poor and elderly and keep asking the question until they get a clear answer. None of the 50% don’t pay taxes crap, none of the shared pain shit, none of they pull yourself up the bootstraps, no bullshit keep pounding until one of them simply states. “I want more and I want it now and the people in the 99% are bottom feeders.

  • MM1711

    My mother is 79. She’s a typical middle class American. Worked for much of her life. Spent many years as a homemaker, raising a family. She’s been divorced for 25 years and lives on a fixed income. She had a stroke 3 months ago and is now paralyzed on the left side of her body. She’s now in a nursing home and the best she’ll probably ever do is regain enough mobility to go into assisted living. Her nursing home is $450 a day. She’ll be going on Medicaid soon. At $450 almost NO ONE could afford a nursing home for very long at that rate. Even fairly well-to-do Americans that have a lot of savings couldn’t afford that for very long. What am I saying? If it weren’t for Medicaid, people like my mom would be sent to live with their families, who are not prepared, or able, to take care of them–and through no fault of their own. My mom currently needs two people to help her sit up, get to the bathroom, get into her wheelchair. Even if I were relatively wealthy, I couldn’t afford to hire two full-time, 24-7 home health care aids to take care of her every day. This isn’t a unique story–I can guarantee you. For anyone who has to go into long-term care, the costs are utterly staggering. If it weren’t for Medicaid, millions of elderly and their families, would be f*cked. And our politicians talk about massive cuts to this program, Medicare, which paid for the first 3 months of my mother’s care after her stroke and Social Security, which is the only thing keeping millions of older people from abject poverty, like they are talking about taking out the trash.

  • Yep, Joe The Bummer.

  • He pretends to be an average Joe, but he’s nothing like one, he gives us all a bad name.

  • It goes a bit before the 80’s but there is no doubt it seemed to get worse then.

  • “Obama is a very willing participant in this game…”

    Duh, Chris. He’s one of them.

  • I refer to them as the true Parasite Class, in that most of them did not get rich through innovation or bettering the human race, but through pillaging the wealth created by others, not caring one whit about the deliberate destruction they cause.

    Yes, absolutely it is immoral and abominable for the 0.1% to be bitching about the poor and middle class getting modest benefits and gov’t help when it is they — the plutocrats — who received virtually ALL of the economic gains in productivity and GDP growth since 1980.

  • Joe your F+++ing Joke, you voted against tax increase when Clinton and vast majority of Dems voted for it and your party all voted no.

  • K_L_Carten

    Moocher Class, that fits them to a T, as long as they can keep their money they don’t care about anything else.

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