Fox ends Benghazi interview after expert guest calls them “wing of the Republican party”

Author Tom Ricks was just on Fox to talk about Benghazi. According to Politico, Ricks “writes a blog for Foreign Policy magazine and is a best-selling author of books such as ‘Fiasco’ and ‘The Generals’.”

Fox apparently didn’t like what Ricks had to say.

RICKS: I think that Benghazi, generally, was hyped by this network especially. And now that the campaign is over, I think [McCain's] backing off a little bit…

FOX HOST: When you have four people dead, including the first US ambassador in more than thirty years, how do you call that hype?

RICKS: How many security contractors died in Iraq, do you know?

FOX HOST: I don’t.

RICKS: No, nobody does, because nobody cared. We know that several hundred died, but there was never an official count done of security contractors dead in Iraq. So when I see this focus on what was essentially a small firefight, I think number one: I’ve covered a lot of firefights, it’s impossible to figure out what happens in them sometimes. And second, I think that the emphasis on Benghazi has been extremely political, partly because Fox was operating as a wing of the Republican party.

FOX HOST: All right. Tom Ricks, thanks very much for joining us today.

Suddenly, after only a minute and a half, the segment was over.  Now you’d have to ask Ricks how long his segment was supposed to go, but usually things like this, if you’re the sole guest, would go a good 4 minutes. Not one minute 30.

Here’s the clip – more from me after:

Ricks raises an excellent point.  We lost a lot of people in Iraq and Afghanistan.  And suddenly, when four people die in Libya, it’s the end of the world as we know it and Republicans are p-ing their pants wondering if America has been permanently emasculated by four deaths.

Might have been nice for Fox and the GOP to have cared as much about the 6,610 US service men and women who died in Iraq and Afghanistan, especially the 4,474 who died in Iraq because a Republican president, and all of his propaganda organs on TV and the radio and in the Congress, lied.

Here are only 10% of the American men and women who died in these two Republican wars. It’s amazing that Fox, and the Republican party, suddenly figured out that Americans were dying in the Middle East and environs.

Images of dead American service members in Iraq and Afghanistan

10% of the US war dead in Iraq and Afghanistan, source Wash Post


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  • Gunner

    And what exactly do you know about the war besides what your friends have told you, or what you have seen on tv? Not a damn thing! Leave it to us professionals to fight the war. We are doing just fine ;) or you can pick up a rifle, join the us military and see what it is to be a patriot. You just might see what we are fighting for.

  • Houndentenor

    Even a few years ago, this might be the end of this. But now that every writer, commentary, or really just about anyone probably has a twitter account or facebook page or blog, they can say whatever they would have said before they were cutoff. No one can censor someone from getting their message out.

    No one at Fox cares about any of this except as something to attack Obama with.

  • Butch1

    I bet they never ask him back again and someone gets yelled at for inviting him on in the first place before vetting him. ;-)

  • http://www.facebook.com/christopherand.wilhelm Christopher Wilhelm

    I care about all of our service members fighting and especially those that have given the ultimate sacrifice. I have three brothers and a father that went to West Point, a sister that recently retired after a 20-plus year military career, and I would still like to know why the Benghazi information came out wrong and late. This ambassador was not in a war zone (at least not one of the U.S. making) when he was murdered in a terrorist attack on American sovereign soil. If anyone wants to bring up specific incidents in Iraq or Afghanistan where service members died and questions were not answered to the fullest or best degree, please bring those up as separate issues, don’t link them to this issue so that the water on this issue can be muddied and unclear.

  • http://www.rebeccamorn.com/mind BeccaM

    I am also not a registered Democrat. Nor did I vote for Obama.

    Just saying. I don’t think you know me — or others here — as well as you think you might.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000205474086 Jim Hubbard

    Nothing like cherry-picked quotes to sell one’s political narrative.

  • tony8740

    OK, Would you put them next to Fox as a propaganda machine? Look let’s say Fox bends to the Republican line. but it is only one channel, the rest ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, TIME, NEWSWEEK, THE NEW YORK TIMES, and countless others bend to the Democratic line. It is hardy a fair fight. Yet Fox’s audience is larger than most. They must be saying something that resonates with the American public. Disqualifying someone because they watch Fox as a stupid, ignorant person, it is infantile at best. The argument that Fox has a wide audience because most people are stupid and ignorant is flawed the same argument could be used of say why people voted for Obama. Lets act as adults both the Democrats and the Republicans have some good and bad ideas, by demonizing each other we are hurting ourselves. We should not fall into the trap of backing our party and politicians no matter what. At the end of the day none of them are Jesus, Mother Theresa, Buddha or Mohamed (to be politically correct) Politicians have their agenda and it is usually self-serving. Let’s pick and choose from the best from all sides. I am from Florida and registered as a Republican but I voted for a Democrat for governor. I think America deserves better from all of us.! Thanks (sorry about the ranting)

  • http://www.rebeccamorn.com/mind BeccaM

    I do not watch MSNBC. Try again.

  • http://blogvader.tumblr.com/ Blogvader

    Tony, Bush actually gave up on finding Bin Laden, as evidenced by his decision to dissolve the CIA unit dedicated to hunting Bin Laden.

    Secondly, yes, we liberals have loudly protested the US occupation of several foreign countries and the violation of sovereignty as well. (Not even of us, for sure, but you’ll find even on Americablog there is strong sentiment to end the War on Terror, drone warfare, torture, and its associated abuses.) If you’d decided to troll here in the runup to the election, you’d have seen a lot of it. Being that I know Americans are more likely to be killed by their furniture than terrorists I personally don’t see any reason why we’re sending our entire military after terrorist groups at all except as a pretext to violate international law and exploit other countries’ resources.

    And finally, Dems and Republicans were all pretty enthusiastic about the Bin Laden assassination.

  • tony8740

    That’s why watching MSNBC has taken you to the heights of intellectual reason and wisdom.

    The least you can do, as someone immersed in the rational world, is to rationally explain your the known facts straight as you know them.

    Otherwise you are the one doing the partisan yawping for the leftwing propaganda machine, all of which is based on contradictory and often patently false assertions.

  • tony8740

    when that same administration blatantly killed Osama Bin Laden in a foreign country without their permission and then tortured the doctor who led the CIA to his compound
    in violation of both U.S. and international law — again, the Democrats
    and their useful idiots remained silent.

    No, correction: They cheered it.

  • tony8740

    I always thought the greatness of America was how the press served as a
    watch dog to uncover lies and abuse of power in our government .

    Watergate, was a prime example of how a simple break-in at a hotel would eventually lead a U.S. president to resign.

    Had
    the Washington Post not taken the time an interest in the case, the
    Watergate break in would have been just another break in Washington like
    many before and after.

    Taken at first glance, the premise by Tom
    Ricks that an event is not worth investigating because events of a
    similar nature had occurred before and were ignored , seems odd
    specially for a journalist.

    I would disagree, however, with Mr
    Ricks main point. The death of soldiers at war and security contractors
    in a war zone, it’s a sad but somewhat predictable occurrence. The death
    of four

    Americans including the US ambassador in seemingly friendly country it is not so common.

    The
    dead soldiers and security contractor did not have a direct line to the
    State Department, unarmed drones where not sent to asses their
    situation in real time. The CIA, the State Department and the White
    House were directly and indirectly involved within hours of the
    occurrence.

    But mainly the death of the soldiers and security
    contractors were not blamed on other events for days and days as the
    Benghazi attack was.

    The job of a real journalist, even more so
    of an expert like Mr Ricks, it is not take at face value the official
    talking points of those in power , but to question those in power and
    seek the real truth.

    Had the Washington Post followed Mr Ricks
    journalist instincts Richard Nixon’s cover up in the Watergate affair
    would have been sweep conveniently under the rug.

  • tony8740

    I always thought the greatness of America was how the press served as a watch dog to uncover lies and abuse of power in our government .

    Watergate, was a prime example of how a simple break-in at a hotel would eventually lead a U.S. president to resign.

    Had the Washington Post not taken the time an interest in the case, the Watergate break in would have been just another break in Washington like many before and after.

    Taken at first glance, the premise by Tom Ricks that an event is not worth investigating because events of a similar nature had occurred before and were ignored , seems odd specially for a journalist.

    I would disagree, however, with Mr Ricks main point. The death of soldiers at war and security contractors in a war zone, it’s a sad but somewhat predictable occurrence. The death of four

    Americans including the US ambassador in a seemingly friendly country it is not so common.

    The dead soldiers and security contractor did not have a direct line to the State Department, unarmed drones where not sent to asses their situation in real time. The CIA, the State Department and the White House were directly and indirectly involved within hours of the occurrence.

    But mainly the death of the soldiers and security contractors were not blamed on other events for days and days as in the Benghazi attack was.

    The job of a real journalist, even more so of an expert like Mr Ricks, it is not take at face value the official talking points of those in power , but to question those in power and seek the real truth.

    Had the Washington Post followed Mr Ricks journalist instincts Richard Nixon’s cover up in the Watergate affair would have been sweep conveniently under the rug.

  • http://www.rebeccamorn.com/mind BeccaM

    And when that same administration blatantly and provably lied us into a war with Iraq, then committed war-crimes and tortured prisoners in direct violation of both U.S. and international law — again, the Republicans and their useful idiots remained silent.

    No, correction: They cheered it.

  • http://www.rebeccamorn.com/mind BeccaM

    That’s because watching nothing but Fox News rots your brain. The rest of us out here in the rational world have no trouble at all keeping the known facts straight, as opposed to the breathless pettifoggery and partisan yawping about Benghazi from the right and its propaganda outlets, all of which is based on contradictory and often patently false assertions.

  • Guest

    BUT-someone told rescuers to STAND DOWN whike the victims fought for their lives for hours. THIS MAKESS BENGHAZI DIFFERENT than other fire fights. Seems we cannot remember all the parts of this sad story at once!

  • http://www.facebook.com/eyenever.sayno Eyenever Sayno

    Charlene Lamb, the State Department official in charge of diplomatic mission security, testified under oath before Congress that funding was not an issue in the decision making with regard to security staff in Benghazi, the suggestion it was is just another false democrat talking point. Here’s her testimony:

    —“It has been suggested that budget cuts are responsible for a lack of security in Benghazi, and I’d like to ask Miss Lamb,” said Representative Dana Rohrabacher (R., California). “You made this decision personally. Was there any budget consideration and lack of budget which lead you not to increase the number of people in the security force there?”

    “No, sir,” said [Charlene] Lamb.—

  • http://blogvader.tumblr.com/ Blogvader

    And yet, when Bush’s administration outed CIA agents, and no one even served jail time for it… we didn’t hear this kind of rhetoric out of Republicans.

    You’re pathetic.

  • http://blogvader.tumblr.com/ Blogvader

    Or when Bush’s administration was willfully outing CIA agents to discredit criticism of their questionable conclusions on Iraq War intelligence. All Republicans care about is their preferred narrative.

    Their fall guy didn’t even do time for that.

  • nicho

    You have memorized the Fox talking points very nicely. Please stick a gold star on your forehead for the next 24 hours.

  • http://www.facebook.com/monoceros.forth Monoceros Forth

    It’s almost hilarious that only the opportunity to make Pres. Obama look bad was enough reason to get Republicans to give a curse for the lives of State Department diplomats. I can’t imagine any other circumstance that would cause right-wingers to do such an uncharacteristic thing for them.

  • http://www.facebook.com/eyenever.sayno Eyenever Sayno

    The difference between Iraq and Libya is that in Iraq we were involved in an upfront war, not pussyfooting around in a proxy war, which is what was going on with the CIA in Libya.

    Obama and the CIA were recycling Libyan rebel weapons and sending them to Obama’s proxy war with Russia/Iran in Syria. To protect the secrecy of all this two brave ex-SEALS were left to die on a Benghazi rooftop, fighting and waiting fro help from above that never came. More than seven hours passed from the time the Whitehouse was informed, in writing (see link below for declassified emails), that the attack was underway. Seven hours is long enough to fly from London to Libya and back to London, but no help was sent from Italy or Spain. That’s the real scandal folks.

    http://cnsnews.com/sites/default/files/documents/BENGHAZI-STATE%20DEPARTMENT-EMAILS_2.pdf

  • PeteWa

    LMAO

  • http://AMERICAblog.com/ John Aravosis

    Interesting how when the memo was ignored and nearly 3,000 Americans died, you guys weren’t nearly this concerned.

  • Dave of the Jungle

    LOL

  • http://AMERICAblog.com/ John Aravosis

    Pete, why do you hate America?

  • Dave of the Jungle

    In the big universal set where truth matters, they’re pretty much in empty set land.

  • PeteWa

    I’m sure that they overlap nicely in the Venn Diagram of Asshattery.

  • Dave of the Jungle

    A top flight journalist says propaganda is not news. Excellent.

  • http://www.rebeccamorn.com/mind BeccaM

    Guys like the commenter upthread are like McCain demanding details and information, yet miss the meetings when those details and information are being provided.

    They ignore what they don’t want to hear, especially when it runs counter to their conspiracy theory BS and political posturing. To my mind, they’re no better than the birthers.

  • Dave of the Jungle

    It was an act of murder by non-state actors.

  • http://www.facebook.com/scott.bard Scott Bard

    In that case, you may want to ask McCain, Graham, and the rest of the overly concerned where they were when candidate for U.N. Secretary General Sérgio Vieira de Mello was killed in an al Qaeda bomb blast in Iraq. Don’t remember any of them calling for the firing of Condi Rice or impeachment of Bush or demanding answers within days of the deed.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S%C3%A9rgio_Vieira_de_Mello

  • PeteWa

    ‘Yet, we still do not know why, when asked repeatedly, we did not increase security (in fact, we reduced security in August)’

    “Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah) acknowledged on Wednesday that House
    Republicans had consciously voted to reduce the funds allocated to the
    State Department for embassy security since winning the majority in
    2010.”

  • Naja pallida

    It is important to cut off anyone who has the audacity speak the truth, especially when that truth contradicts the propaganda that your network relies entirely on for its ratings.

  • Naja pallida

    Since you were there, you should probably be contacting the FBI immediately to give your statement.

  • caphillprof

    It’s not an act of war when a U.S. official is killed by the thugs down the street. It needs to be a state act in order to provoke a war.

    There is a suggestion that the CIA was too busy protecting a black operation rendition site to be able to protect the ambassador in the consulate.

  • cole3244

    boy, fox sure can dish it out but when the heat gets, you know the rest, ricks speaks the truth and when the truth is spoken fox is out of its element so end of conversation and on to gop talking points.

  • Independent111

    You miss the point entirely! Benghazi was our consulate and our Ambassador. Killing an Ambassador is an act of war. Yet, we still do not know why, when asked repeatedly, we did not increase security (in fact, we reduced security in August), we did not help our people during the 7.5 hours of attacks and murders, and we did not tell the truth about why we were attacked and our Ambassador was brutally murdered (and tortured, too). Not knowing the truth prevents us from protecting Americans around the globe. We owe it to all Americans serving our country now and in the future to get to the bottom of the truth, even if it smells foul.

  • A_nonymoose

    Fox News: produced by and for assholes.

  • BarbinDC

    It seems rather odd to me that they would have someone of Ricks’ stature and knowledge and cut him off after 90 seconds. Still, I’m sure that boob who was interviewing him hasn’t read the book or knows very, either. I think Ricks came loaded for bear and wasn’t the least bit surprised at the outcome.

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