CNN anchor to hate group: “I am a proud, card-carrying member” of the gay gestapo

We wrote last week about how CNN’s Carol Costello did an incredible job shutting down the spokesman for an officially-designated hate group who was on her show to talk about why the group, the American Family Association, thinks a high school day devoted to anti-bullying is actually a secret plan to recruit kids into homosexuality.

The AFA representative, known for his hateful commentary, was telling Costello that the Southern Poverty Law Center, a renowned civil rights organization, was really a “hate group” because it had called out AFA for its own hateful language. Costello then read Fischer his own quote claiming that Hitler’s top lieutenants were all gay, because Hitler knew he needed someone extra savage to kill all the Jews, so he chose gays. (This is long-standing blood lie of the far right.)

“Hitler recruited around him homosexuals to make up his Stormtroopers, they were his enforcers, they were his thugs. And Hitler discovered that he could not get straight soldiers to be savage and brutal and vicious enough to carry out his orders, but that homosexual solders basically had no limits and the savagery and brutality they were willing to inflict on whomever Hitler sent them after. So he surrounded himself, virtually all of the Stormtroopers, the Brownshirts, were male homosexuals.”

As if the premise of the conversation weren’t bad enough, the AFA representative, known for his offensive commentary, started lecturing Costello about all the health risks he claimed, falsely, were associated with being gay. At that point, Costello had heard enough, and shut down the interview.

CNN’s COSTELLO: I would think most historians would take issue with that. But what I’m saying to you is that, by many people’s standards, would be hate speech.

AFA’s FISCHER: Well, but the reality is, it’s the Southern Poverty Law Center.  They’re out to destroy the AFA and the FRC (Family Research Council), that makes them the bullying group, that makes them the hate group.  They’re the ones that want to silence any view that would criticize the normalization of homosexual behavior.  And we know from the CDC, and from the FDA, not part of the vast rightwing conspiracy…

COSTELLO: Well…

FISCHER: …that homosexual behavior has the same health risks…

COSTELLO: …okay…

FISCHER: …associated with it…

COSTELLO: That, that’s just not true. I’m gonna end this interview now, sir, I’m sorry, because that’s just not true.  Mr. Fischer, um, thanks for sharing your views. I guess.

Bra-va.

You can watch Costello in action here.

Well, as you can imagine, the AFA, as it often does, threw a hissy fit.  And again, Costello was having none of it.  IN today’s broadcast, Costello plays the AFA’s hissy fit, then responds:

AFA’s BRYAN FISCHER: Homosexual behavior, it is immoral, it is unnatural, and it is unhealthy.  That is a simple, straight-forward statement of fact. But for the gay Gestapo, they’re gonna call that an insult…. Now, Carol Costello, she showed you what this looks like.  I mean Carol Costello, when I was on with her on CNN, she showed you what the gay Gestapo looks like in action, cuz she cut my water off just as soon as I started to talk about the health risks of homosexual behavior.

CNN’S CAROL COSTELLO: Well, Mr. Fischer, if that’s the definition of the “gay Gestapo,” then I am a proud, card-carrying member.

Love. Her.

This was not unlike NBC’s Chris Matthews recently standing up to the race-baiting coming out of the Romney campaign via Reince Priebus, the head of the Republican National Committee.  Or when CNN’s Soledad O’Brien recently stood up to Romney surrogate John Sununu and called him out on his lies.

Republicans think truth has a liberal bias, so they lie routinely as a matter of strategy.  And they think that the media will be willing cohorts in that lie, out of some twisted sense of fairness.  And as Candy Crowley showed Mitt Romney in the last debate, and Carol Costello showed the representative of the AFA, you are permitted to lie on national television if you want to, but don’t expect the media to aid and abet the lie.

Part of being an objective journalists is honoring the truth.

In case you missed it, here’s the part of the last debate when President Obama destroyed Mitt Romney for claiming that the President hid the truth of the Libya attack for political purposes, and then Candy Crowley corrected Romney’s lie.


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  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Chris-Peppers/1506273649 Chris Peppers

    Now you are quoting Ann Couler as a reliable source.  Thats funny.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Chris-Peppers/1506273649 Chris Peppers

    In case you haven’t noticed, you are alone in your views here. That in  itself would show most people that they might need to think things through or do some questioning.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Chris-Peppers/1506273649 Chris Peppers

    If it is not conversation based on fact and is hateful to a group of people it is not a legitimate conversation-much less a civilized discussion.  If you dropped the labels and just used “people” how would these views sound?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Chris-Peppers/1506273649 Chris Peppers

    There are some things that are non-negotiable. Human rights is one of them. Calling people out on their hate talk and ending the conversation is the morally right thing to do.

  • ComradeRutherford

    Fischer had ZERO points that were good or valid.  They are all lies.  What lie do you find to be good?

  • ComradeRutherford

    The point of the AFA spokesman had nothing at all to do with ‘civilized discussion’.  He was spouting obvious lies and hateful rhetoric that has no place in any civilized discussion.  He was not interested in facts, truth or reality, only propagating hate-speech.  Why should those that the AFA wants to round up and kill tolerate the hate speech against them?

    Liberals aren’t the ones against civilized discussion, the insane far-right are the ones not interested in civilized discussion.  The insane far-right, like the AFA are only interested in promulgating their lies.

    When someone says something obviously wrong, like, “The Earth is the center of the universe and if you disagree with me, then you are the hater!”, there is no possibility of civilized discussion.

  • ComradeRutherford

    You are, of course, clearly joking.  SPLC is the direct opposite of a ‘hate group’.

  • DMK

    She didn’t “debate” him because this debate (like others: women voting, segregation, etc.) is OVER. Suck it up, folks. We’re not going back, ever. I don’t “debate” people like this anymore because they’re operating in the ancient, fossil past and there’s no point.

    Do you guys want to “debate” terrorists on CNN too? Get real and stop fronting already.

  • LD

    How is the entirety of the Tea Party not “the mob”, pal? Stop pretending like you’re not 120% behind populist fervour as long as it’s serving you.

  • KD

    If you’re invoking a troll like Coulter, you’re part of her “mob”.

  • LDFS

    Yes, because hate groups aren’t “divisive”. I think you’re a liar – I don’t think you give two s–ts about “divisive”. It’s painted all over your comments. Don’t front.

  • LD

     That’s rich coming from your pundit-owned, panic-mongering slice of the galaxy.

  • DL

    That was not an intellectual discussion. It was the rambling of a fringe loon out to hurt free people.

  • HJ

     That doesn’t even make any sense. You’re not very good at this.

  • JFR2

     Wilful nonsense and deflection. Keep hurting America huh?

  • No

    The right to live, and live free, is not a “view”. If you had ever stopped for a bloody minute to consider that, maybe you’d realize why these gay folks aren’t having your shit, and aren’t going backwards on rights, ever.

  • imisstherealamerica

     Guess I’m part of the .001%.  Sometimes people are just too stupid to reason with- at that point, yeah, shut it down.

  • Adam

    Wait, now it’s his opinion? Before you suggested it was a “good point”, falling within the realm of “intellectual firepower” and “reasoned argument”. So which is it (not that I would trust you to know the difference)?

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