Yeah, Joe and I beat AFA once. When they tried to get Ford to stop advertising in the gay press. Ford actually did pull their advertising at AFA’s behest, then we got Ford to put it back. AFA was ticked. It’s not terribly difficult to beat the bullies, you just have to be smart about it. And not enough of our groups, on the left generally, are. More on JC Penney and Ellen from ThinkProgress.